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I'm starting to get a little twitchy as to weather it was a good idea or not to get the lte version?
I'm really beginning to think that development isnt looking good for us. At the moment all we have is roms with lots of options but not roms from major cooks like darky rom, miui, cyanogen, etc?
No disrespect to the devs that are making roms but I do feel that there isn't a big enough audience to warrant devs developing/porting roms for this handset?
What do you think?
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yeah the i9305 development is nothing compared to the i9300, unfortunately
Well the s3 has been out longer so I would expect there to be a lot more roms for it but there don't seem to be much buzz about the lte?
I thought having 2 gig of ram would of been tempting to a Dev to make a super fast smooth rom but it seems the difference between the two is quite a lot!
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yes, it's surprising and disappointing. I wouldn't expect much change, because soon the devs' attention will shift towards the newer devices like the s4
Glebun said:
yes, it's surprising and disappointing. I wouldn't expect much change, because soon the devs' attention will shift towards the newer devices like the s4
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Luckily our device is so much like the S3 and Note 2 LTE that that doesn't really matter, all we need is a little push over the edge and we'll at least have CyanogenMod builds.
Yeah, its the only reason I have not bought one yet Seriously, CM will be a beast on this phone if it ever gets ported
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Was seriously looking at the N4 but all the shortcomings (fixed battery, breaking glass, short battery life and no ext sd) make me come back to the S3.
cenonmin said:
Yeah, its the only reason I have not bought one yet Seriously, CM will be a beast on this phone if it ever gets ported
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Was seriously looking at the N4 but all the shortcomings (fixed battery, breaking glass, short battery life and no ext sd) make me come back to the S3.
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Don't forget the half-arsed build overall, I mean including a deactivated LTE modem just screams "unfinished" to me.
I have been reading a bunch of HTC One vs S4 threads and been watching them. And I feel like everyone is making the comparisons on each stock, which makes sense. But I was wondering which is better when rooted and both having a custom rom and kernel. Since I know that having a custom rom and kernel can make the overall performance better.
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
Thanks guys And if there is a thread like this comparing the roms and kernels of each device against each other, then post a link and I can ask to close this thread.
Posted this in the S4 forum as well to have opinions on both sides and not just on one side, which isn't fair.
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I have been reading a bunch of HTC One vs S4 threads and been watching them. And I feel like everyone is making the comparisons on each stock, which makes sense. But I was wondering which is better when rooted and both having a custom rom and kernel. Since I know that having a custom rom and kernel can make the overall performance better.
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
Thanks guys And if there is a thread like this comparing the roms and kernels of each device against each other, then post a link and I can ask to close this thread.
Posted this in the S4 forum as well to have opinions on both sides and not just on one side, which isn't fair.
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It's not different at alllllllllllll.
It's not allowed, and everyone here will say the HTC One.
There's no point to this, promotes arguments and trolling. Don't start it.
All your questions require knowledge and use of both phones. I know a few people have both but a lot of people here haven't spent £1000 on 2 phones, so will only own the HTC One. Therefore the S4 answers will be a load of crap
I am getting tired of reading about comparisons and threads turning into arguments because of such issues. Bottom line is, devices should be fairly compared on a stock basis and not with custom ROMs or kernels. There are benchmark tests and others available online, just use Google and you'll find everything you're looking for. They are both great devices and that competition in the latest technology, features and market price are what make the world of smartphones better, which in turn benefits us.
choboii said:
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
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This is not different. Please use the search feature and ask your question in an already existing thread.
To answer your questions though, I switched from the HTC One(running TrickDroid/ARHD, Bulletproof kernel) to the Galaxy S4(running WanamLite, ktoonz kernel) and now back to the HTC One(ARHD, Beastmode kernel). The HTC One has, by far, been the better experience. It's smoother, faster, and more responsive than my S4--on top of that, I actually used the "unique" features of the One(Blinkfeed, Zoe, etc) whereas on the SGS4 in an effort to smooth it out, I turned most of it's "unique" features off. Overall, I found most of it's "unique" features to be very gimmicky.
Here's what it comes down to: Neither phone is better than the other. There is no "best" phone. The closest you can get is picking a phone that has the features YOU want and that are important to YOU.
I'm looking to buy an S3 and I really can't decide. My carrier now only sells the i9305, and when I want warranty, I would have to stick with them - used i9300 prices in my region match or surpass the carrier's price for i9305.
My only gripe with the i9305 is that I don't really see too much development going on. Sure, there is CM, but with my current trusty old SGS I saw that CM/AOSP mods can bring so much difference - like SlimRom for example.
Are there quality ROMs out there, will there be a strong support later on?
I doubt that i9305 users are familiar with i9000 development
Development i see devs as more likely to switch to SGS4 rather than take on I9305 .
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.. Your not missing out on anything over the gain through having more RAM etc..
9305 will continue to be developed and at less regular intervals the updates will be aligned to a great degree with 9300 functionality wise.. Sure a few of the ROMS that are for 9300 would be awesome for the 9305 but mainly visuallly i guess..
Then again the 9305 roms a few of which are outstanding in their own right !
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.
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not true at all
Glebun said:
not true at all
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How come i tested many I9305 roms and the all have and work very nice so no problems here, your statement is incorect, i was having the same problem and i got i9305 and i'm very happy, the devs we got working for i9305 are fewer but they are some of the best, and just look at the version numbers on romes and you will see that they work to improve! I love my I9305 and I don't ever look back , for not taking a I9300 even if some friend cald me crazy because i didn't get a S4 but in the end i was right not trowing the money out the window.
So if you want an S3 get the I9305 and you will no regret it (i came from i9000 and must say that i look at i9001 and i9003 and they still got a good dev team after all this years so way not i9305 , some really think that a phones has a bad dev after they trie only 1-2 roms).
If you don't need 4g you will even get a better battery life that the i9300.
my statement is fine. There is more than 5% difference in development between these to devices. It's far more
I think mick was saying that there's 95% functionality, not 95% of ROMs, numerically speaking. Since there's massive overlap of features among many different ROMs, what he's saying might not be so far off...
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95 percent of functionality can be achieved with like two ROMs. that's a very bad indicator for a development support
Yes 95% of funcitonality.. not roms, not close sure.. but given the overlap and given the benefits.. well i personally don't feel i'm missing out and any 'feature' that comes to the 9300, well lol 95% are at some point integrated.. If you want to be first cab of the ranks just for ROM purposes then go tthe 9300.. Also keep in mind yes only a few ROMS have the majoirty of features but these roms and now with the new kernals for 4.2.2 work a treat and a very customisible/configurable..
If someone could likst features they believe don't exist for 9305 that are really valuable ones i'd love to hear about them.. Otherwise it's just athesics which isn't to be underestimated but not a game changer givne what is available..
pretty much sums up my view and very happy with 9305 roms.. Ok sure would love three times the number but again not really missing out and 2gig ram is great.. oh only peeve for me is no FM radio which does suck but with 4g here etc download speeds make up for any shortfall and i can also utilise tunein radio or the like..
Anyway rant over guys! Happy hunting
I'm not asking for "_____ is better"....more like "______ is better if you _____, and ____ is better if you ______" so I've been running stock (eventually rooted) since the S6 came out, and I've constantly looked at these two ROMs and wondered what the actual differences are. I'm hoping there can be some responses that can fairly compare the two by people that know Android Development better than I (not difficult). E.g. " ______ is better if you want your ROM to do a lot of stuff but can be slow, ______ is better if you want a lightweight ROM without much customization" or similar. I'm assuming both are going to be better than stock for someone like me...
Thanks!
The answer to this is very simple..........
Flash one. Run it for a few days.
Do a full wipe...and flash the other.
Run it for a few days.
Then YOU know what YOU want.....
Is there anything I should look out for to try on each? It seems like there is a lot of development crossover (which is awesome) between you both, so I'm kinda curious why there are two different ROMs. I feel like there must be a different design philosophy behind each (e.g. Customization vs Speed) since you don't seem to be "competitors".
As for flashing both, the main reason I'm asking is that I assume I'll miss 90% of what makes them different, and aside from being able to track battery life, I don't think I'll have time to figure out what's different.
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Is there anything I should look out for to try on each? It seems like there is a lot of development crossover (which is awesome) between you both, so I'm kinda curious why there are two different ROMs. I feel like there must be a different design philosophy behind each (e.g. Customization vs Speed) since you don't seem to be "competitors".
As for flashing both, the main reason I'm asking is that I assume I'll miss 90% of what makes them different, and aside from being able to track battery life, I don't think I'll have time to figure out what's different.
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When you flash a rom some people want a lot of customized mods...some want basic...
Again...you have to decide what you like and want. That's why folks flash different ones till they find one that fits their needs...
Both roms have my kernel. So there is no need to worry about battery life
Hi all,
So just looking for opinions here...I just got my OP3T and am looking to change from the stock OOS to something else. However, I need something that functions more as a daily driver. Sure I could go LineageOS and stick with what I know from my OnePlus One, but I'm looking to try something different.
Sure I OOS Beta isn't different per se, but I like what I've got with OOS stock so far, but I personally like being on a beta...it's fun.
My experience with Paranoid Android was only with my old HP TouchPad, but what I did experience, it was very good.
So I can't decide, so I'm leaving this one up to the votes...have fun!
I've been on the Beta before, and right now I'm using PA. Personally, I prefer PA because it's so well-refined. The only thing is that you can't really use a custom kernel unless it's specifically made for AOSPA; whereas the OOS Beta you can use any stock-compatible kernel. But if you want something stable but customisable and such, I'd go with PA.
Also, OOS has the forced DM_Verity thingo and I always find that painful to fiddle around with.
What kind of amazing topic is this???
Try both buddy.
I would go for AOSPA, simply because stock Android is better than OOS and with PA you don't loose your camera
twoxa said:
What kind of amazing topic is this???
Try both buddy.
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Of course I'd try both...if I had the time between school, work, and traveling for work. I just want opinions from my fellow XDA folks.
Normally, I'd love to tinker with both (and I have in the past with other ROMs), but hence why I'm asking here....extreme lack of time.
Everyone is busy. And yet most of us don't need to make new threads or polls to decide what ROM to flash.
The best ROM for you isn't determined by a popularity contest. It also shouldn't be a decision left to strangers that know nothing about your preferences or how you use the phone.
In the end, how you feel about the ROM when using it, is going to be the sole determining factor about whether you like it, stay on it, etc. In light of that, asking strangers isn't much better than flipping a coin.
There are a ton of resurrection ROMs here, so somewhat feels as if you're limited to either stock or Paranoid Android. From all accounts I've heard, PA has exceptional battery performance. It's a good ROM if you aren't into heavy customizable features ROMs like RR bring. Carbon nightlies are out as well. If you're strapped for time. I wouldn't suggest RR or any other ROM similar. I don't usually use stock ROMs, so I can't clarify for which camera is better. I know PA camera doesn't appear to have the ability to switch between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ration I've found that out from uploading videos to YouTube. PIE settings has been updated from your old days of using PA, but it doesn't have a ton of options allowing you to change anything. It's very barebones in my opinion. I'm not sure if that's how PA wants it or if they plan on adding more to PIE settings. PA also has a theme engine feature different from other ROMs. Once again, I'm not sure if that's correct or not. Considering nowadays I don't heavily modify my phone. Development around here seems to be stalled a bit. I guess most of the devs have got the OP5 now.
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vuP22 said:
I would go for AOSPA, simply because stock Android is better than OOS and with PA you don't loose your camera
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What is AOSPA exactly, what is it built from? I know what LineageOS is. And what do you mean by not losing camera, can you still use the official one?
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What is AOSPA exactly, what is it built from? I know what LineageOS is. And what do you mean by not losing camera, can you still use the official one?
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AOSPA = Paranoid Android ROM, fully CAF based
with "loosing the camera" I mean the quality. Oneplus never released their drivers for the camera. All photos taken with a custom rom are not as good as with OxygenOS. Paranoid Android Devs created own drivers resulting in excellent picture quality.
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Everyone is busy. And yet most of us don't need to make new threads or polls to decide what ROM to flash.
The best ROM for you isn't determined by a popularity contest. It also shouldn't be a decision left to strangers that know nothing about your preferences or how you use the phone.
In the end, how you feel about the ROM when using it, is going to be the sole determining factor about whether you like it, stay on it, etc. In light of that, asking strangers isn't much better than flipping a coin.
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Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Paranoid android definitely for me..I used OOS, and all other ROMs..settled with either paranoid or vertex
PacoL250 said:
Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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lol
Paranoid is a great ROM .. definitely worth trying...PHAEX is also very good and feels very different cause of EAS..
but imao OOS is better battery optimised..
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PacoL250 said:
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Nothing "salty" was posted by me. There is nothing insulting to you, or even close. Just stated basic facts. But I do find it frustrating when folks resort to insinuating that they were somehow insulted or slighted, when someone merely points out simple truths they didn't want to hear.
You're still missing the whole point. The "pros and cons" are completely subjective (and not objective) between one user and another. The whole point in having all these ROMs, is so you can find one that works best for you as an individual.
By setting up a "majority rules" type poll, you are also robbing yourself of potentially finding the "hidden gems". I've had instances where the ROM that worked best for me, was not one that was particularly popular. And also instances where the most popular ROMs caused me some problems; not due to any fault of the ROM per se; but more due to the nuances of my particular local cell provider.
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Nothing "salty" was posted by me. There is nothing insulting to you, or even close. Just stated basic facts. But I do find it frustrating when folks resort to insinuating that they were somehow insulted or slighted, when someone merely points out simple truths they didn't want to hear.
You're still missing the whole point. The "pros and cons" are completely subjective (and not objective) between one user and another. The whole point in having all these ROMs, is so you can find one that works best for you as an individual.
By setting up a "majority rules" type poll, you are also robbing yourself of potentially finding the "hidden gems". I've had instances where the ROM that worked best for me, was not one that was particularly popular. And also instances where the most popular ROMs caused me some problems; not due to any fault of the ROM per se; but more due to the nuances of my particular local cell provider.
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Sorry, it just came off that way. I was a tad surprised since you've been pretty helpful elsewhere as I've seen. No harm, no foul. :good:
I'm not completely missing the point since I've narrowed it down to OOS Beta or PA. I've looked at others and these are the two that I've narrowed it down (based on videos, posts others have made here and elsewhere, etc.). I've worked with LineageOS on my OnePlus One, but I need something that's just a bit more stable.
I'm sure when I have the time, I'll take a look at others, but I'd prefer not having to keep switching between ROMs if I can help it.
Perhaps maybe I'll have to...who knows.
I just switch back to open beta from PA. They're both very good ROMs. Honestly, you can't go wrong.
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I just switch back to open beta from PA. They're both very good ROMs. Honestly, you can't go wrong.
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So would u recommend PA or PAEX?
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So would u recommend PA or PAEX?
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Haven't tried PAEX. I've only run stock, beta, and PA on my 3T. Maybe, I'll try it next...
is it only me or pa has some weird lag/choppy video recording ?