Hey guys,
Sorry if this seems really noobish, but I seem be to kinda lost in all of this ROM'ing goodness.
I have read up on installing custom roms and plan on doing so but I have a couple of questions first before I take that last step (already unlocked and rooted on my One) - note: I have read through the guides but I still seem a little confused as to what exactly changes.
I notice that all tuts mention that you will lose all data on your phone. Does this include installed apps or are we just talking system files needed for the new rom? I have my phone setup already and have my apps backing up with Helium (Carbon) but this is something I seem to be a little confused with
Secondly, using something like CWM (Premium), can I update my ROM quickly and easily without losing any data?
I know that unlocking my bootloader will not get me OTA's so I am looking forward to using many of the awesome ROMs here on the site!
1) When you flash a rom, you need to do a full wipe in aroma.
Full wipe will erase all but not the sd, so your app in home, your background, your account will be erased.
2) You can upgrade your rom with CWM if is the same rom and the base isn't different.
If the base is different you have to do a full wipe.
One more
How likely is base to change for a ROM package? And if I have to flash that new ROM package instead of doing the update through CWM, am I back at square one again with my apps and data or is it just updating what it needs to?
Thanks again for the help!
Then:
Now, all the rom is based on 1.29.401.13.
When it will change (it depens from htc) and you will flash the latest update of rom, you have to do a full wipe, and you will lose all file, settings and other.
Instead, if you have to flash an update like: you're on 2.5 to 2.6, you can flash the rom with only dalvik cache and cache wipe.
But it depens, you always have to read in thread rom
I guess its not so big of a deal considering I can backup most of my apps using Helium and the rest of the apps can just be redownloaded if I keep a list. Configurations should be backed up anyways.
Thanks for the help!
If you're rooted and you will restore your app after a full wipe, i advise you titanium backup.
With this you can do a flashable zip with all your apps and data
Thanks!
I will take a look at Titanium backup and see what it can do! It would only make sense that someone would invent a way to backup all your apps and data (no matter what) to be able to restore them after a ROM update that wipes the phone completely!
Titanium backup can do this
However, only data app, not system app.
If you backupping system app too, you can have issue with new update of rom
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So im wondering, what is the standard practise, or based on your own experiences. What is the best way to flash over an existing rom using CWM? What do you do to prepare the fone for new rom, wipe user data, dalvik cache, before or after flashing. Just trying to get a good idea of how to do it.
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going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually
i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM
Pirateghost said:
going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually
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+1
Except I do clear the caches manually, but that's just because I have OCD.
CremeFraiche said:
i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM
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lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong
Thx for info guys, I have flashed a few times and it seemed like now and then my fone must became bogged down and needed to be fully wiped, sound didnt work or lagfix folders bunch of text docs, just seemed cluttered. So if wanted to really clear out junk what would be a good way without having to flash back to stock?
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Just flash. If you have a problem then back to stock Ans a MC. I have flashed hundreds of time back to stock once.
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Pirateghost said:
lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong
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I would definitely agree. I have also seen people say to disable lagfix before flashing. I have not done that either and never had any problem.
Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.
modest_mandroid said:
Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.
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why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
Glad to hear the advice about not flashing back to stock, that's been one of the major reasons I haven't flashed quite as many rom's as I want, too time consuming.........not to say that i'm not flashing a couple rom's a week, but there's just so many options to try
neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Making "search" a standard practice would be very helpful.
Restoring system is known to mess up ROMs in all cases. Though may not be mandatory, but make it a standard practice to flash stock. Takes hardly 10 mins, and helps save big headaches later.
neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Incompatibilities across rom versions, mostly. As the guy above me said, restoring system files tends to mess up a rom because you are overwriting part of it with files from a different rom.
There is one caveat, however. If you're flashing back to a rom you originally performed the backup on, you can safely restore system files. For example, if you were running Cog 4.3 and did a full TB backup, then decided to flash Serendipity 6.3, you would want to restore only your user apps and user data. However, if you decided to flash back to Cog 4.3 at some point, you could do a full TB restore without worrying about incompatibilities.
I agree with everyone else. Flashing over another rom seldom causes issues. I make s nandroid backup of my favorite rom with everything setup the way i like it. then flash away trying different roms. When i am done, i just restore my backup and all is good!
I have done a search, couldn't find the specific answer I needed, hence my asking. Could be I wasn't phrasing the search correctly......but here I am.....
To clarify, what do you dpo to get your system settings back after flashing a new rom? I flashed to serendipty 6.4 last night, as per the advice, I didn't restore system files, just apps and data, but that didn't work so well for me. I lost my data connection, could only use my wifi, and had no contacts, or any sms msgs. I don't know what else was missing, but I then went and restored system files, everything came back as needed, and there seems to be no issue......
How do I get my info setting back, or do I just need to manually re-set everything after flashing? Apart from wireless info, msgs and contacts, what else do you lose by not restoring?
Appreciate your help
havent flashed a new rom in a while and forgot if anything extra was needed when flashing a rom over a rom
thx!
Let's say i have gignerDX5 installed and want to update to v6. Do I have to backup all my apps and data (sms, phonebook) again?
Simple answer is no, you can just upgrade and it will keep all user data.
You should however make a backup in Xrecovery just in case something goes wrong, if all goes well then either move the backup to PC for later or just delete.
I updated from Froyobread to GingerDX and still kept my data and apps.
I make somethimes fullfactory in Xrecovery,if I switched to new room.It´s not bat to make back up in Xrec.of old room.It´s your game,wher you have back up.I use Titanum backup pro and my acount for phonebook and calendar.I do´nt need anything else for change the room.
Hi...
I have a question, and I didn't wanna create new thread, cuz its related to title
When I flash a new rom, its recommended to do a Full Wipe... Do I have to do that before or after flashing a Rom?
You don't need to do a full wipe when you update GingerDX. Just install it and reboot. I didn't have any bugs by not making a full wipe.
markooo96 said:
Hi...
I have a question, and I didn't wanna create new thread, cuz its related to title
When I flash a new rom, its recommended to do a Full Wipe... Do I have to do that before or after flashing a Rom?
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If you're coming from 2.1 to DX do a wipe, I tried first time yesterday installing rom and got stuck on cyanogen mod boot screen. Did a wipe, reinstaled and worked.
So do wipe if coming from other rom
My main question is that I want to go to the ROM F1 Galaxy S II V6 - SP1 [Look & Feel Of Galaxy S II] or to another updated ROM.
I am coming from froyo 2.2 JK2 (with VooDoo). If I do this flash will I loose all my app data/other data? Is there a way to flash the ROM and save this data? I don't mind losing messages or bookmarks, I just don't want to have to install all of my apps again.
Thank you!
aznhybrid said:
My main question is that I want to go to the ROM F1 Galaxy S II V6 - SP1 [Look & Feel Of Galaxy S II] or to another updated ROM.
I am coming from froyo 2.2 JK2 (with VooDoo). If I do this flash will I loose all my app data/other data? Is there a way to flash the ROM and save this data? I don't mind losing messages or bookmarks, I just don't want to have to install all of my apps again.
Thank you!
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each rom is different, some are wipe version, some are non-wipe. There are a lot of good arguments for cleaning your phone and doing a clean install every time you change rom -- although most people don't, hence the length of threads with people having issues from legacy data and programs having incompatibility issues.
As a general rule prior to flashing any new rom or kernel you should:
1. do a complete nandroid backup in recovery
2. backup your apps using Titanium backup or similar
3. copy the Titanium backup, your photos, music, contacts etc. to your PC
4. then flash, clean and reformat as required without fear of being able to recover important data and files.
Again, some do this. Many don't. Depends how frequently you are flashing and how replaceable your files are.
+1 to that, I highly recommend you do a full wipe, Its not that difficult with apps such as titanium backup, It does all the hard work for you.
Doing a wipe ensures no bugs will be carried over and you will get the best result.
i wouldnt say a wipe is necessary when upgrading to a newer version of the same ROM
lgsshedden said:
each rom is different, some are wipe version, some are non-wipe. There are a lot of good arguments for cleaning your phone and doing a clean install every time you change rom -- although most people don't, hence the length of threads with people having issues from legacy data and programs having incompatibility issues.
As a general rule prior to flashing any new rom or kernel you should:
1. do a complete nandroid backup in recovery
2. backup your apps using Titanium backup or similar
3. copy the Titanium backup, your photos, music, contacts etc. to your PC
4. then flash, clean and reformat as required without fear of being able to recover important data and files.
Again, some do this. Many don't. Depends how frequently you are flashing and how replaceable your files are.
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ahh thanks! exactly what I was looking for
Will and nandroid backup and titanium backup save the contact data? As in the links to the facebook accounts?
If not what can i use is it possible?
Thanks
Talon26 said:
Will and nandroid backup and titanium backup save the contact data? As in the links to the facebook accounts?
If not what can i use is it possible?
Thanks
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You can sync your all your contacts with your Google account and then just install and re-sync Facebook after flashing need Rom..
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Nandroid backs everything up. It makes a disc image of the current rom. When you restore a nandroid backup, you restore the entire image.
You won't be able to restore the facebook links using titanium backup. Samsung updated the contact app when upgrading from Froyo to GB. I tried restoring data from Froyo apps to GB apps, and I got so many force close I ended up having reflash the rom. Note this only applies to stock apps. You can restore your market apps without any problem.
Hi all,
I've been a long time lurker and not had any reason to post until now as I've found most answers by reading...
The last update I did LA1, wiped data and apps and I spent ages re doing them.I was aware of this and prepared to put the time in to restore my GNote.
I now have a rooted phone and it is set up just as I like it. I have backed it up with Titanium Backup, and have Titanium Restore app. as well as CMW
I would love to try LA4 however am dreading the full wipe scenario: with downloading apps, loosing data and seting up home screens as I like them again. It can be done but very time consuming.
My Question is: Will Titanium Backup/Restore and/or CMW put my phone back to where it was prior to firmware update, with home screens, APN, E-Mails as it was but with a phone that now has new firmware?
OR: Do I need to reconfigure the home screens, font, etc. post firmware update?
LA4 is non wipe version, you won't lose your data.
For information just, Titanium backup can restore your data like bookmark, settings(fonts sound country etc), homescreen shortcut (no widgets n folder) as well all user application with data.
Home Folder can be restore with Mybackup Pro.
It is not advisable to restore system data(you will see red coloured in TB) to avoid mess up new firmware.
Great, will give LA4 a go then.
I assume ICS will be a full wipe.
Can I use Mybackup Pro to get my GNote back to the way I like it?
Or do I need to re download all my apps and reconfigure all the home screens?
Thanks for the quick reply
i wold have thought that ICS would be a full wipe but apparently someone said that on a different handset it wasnt a wipe and just upgraded over the top
Richard.p said:
Great, will give LA4 a go then.
I assume ICS will be a full wipe.
Can I use Mybackup Pro to get my GNote back to the way I like it?
Or do I need to re download all my apps and reconfigure all the home screens?
Thanks for the quick reply
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Desktop Folder can be restored with Mybackup Pro only. Rest of the things you can do with either TB/Mybackup.
Widgets you need to configure manually. niether can do that(android OS limitation)
Some complex widgets have options to save configurations, so if you do this, and then backup app data, you should be able to restore it on the other side.
I have had odd problems in the past with backing up and restoring apps after updating the system, so I have just made up my mind to do it manually every time. I almost find it fun now because I always try something different than before. It is time consuming, but I learn a lot about how I can best use my devices this way. My 'must have' list of apps stays pretty streamlined because of this.
Richy99 said:
i wold have thought that ICS would be a full wipe but apparently someone said that on a different handset it wasnt a wipe and just upgraded over the top
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Full wipe or not, I would still do it. No better way to introduce phantom issues than by leaving remnants of other systems on your device. LA1 to LA4 is not going to matter much IMO, but GB to ICS...I wouldn't trust the install to catch everything.
Thanks for all the info......
beestee said:
Full wipe or not, I would still do it. No better way to introduce phantom issues than by leaving remnants of other systems on your device. LA1 to LA4 is not going to matter much IMO, but GB to ICS...I wouldn't trust the install to catch everything.
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I will probably be doing a full wipe for ICS, as Beestee says, less chance of problems.
Will give LA4 a go if nothing else good practice for upgrade technique...
May also try a few costum ROMs as well......
dr.ketan said:
LA4 is non wipe version, you won't lose your data.
For information just, Titanium backup can restore your data like bookmark, settings(fonts sound country etc), homescreen shortcut (no widgets n folder) as well all user application with data.
Home Folder can be restore with Mybackup Pro.
It is not advisable to restore system data(you will see red coloured in TB) to avoid mess up new firmware.
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Yeah this is right. When i flash a new rom i clear data & cache in cwm and then flash the rom, install titanium backup and resore and it puts everything as it was, with two exceptions as far as ive found. Bluetooth is not set to visible as it was before and it doesnt set my wallpaper, takes 30 seconds to sort out so apart from that its fantastic, i was surprised at how flawless it does it.
I have another question:
Iam using ClockworkMod recovery to make a full backup to my phone (HTC) so I can restore my phone back as it was before installing a custom rom I did not like or when I messed up with system file etc etc,
I can not do that with my rooted Note!!! I can not find backup and restore options in my ClockworkMod recovery!!!
What version of CWM are you using? I'm using 5.0.7 (or similar, dont remember) and i can do backups
Army92 said:
What version of CWM are you using? I'm using 5.0.7 (or similar, dont remember) and i can do backups
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Iam so sorry, my mistake
when I rebooted my note to recovery I gtt this : Android system recovery <3e>
It looks like CWM thats why Iam confused
How I can get the CWM I used to use with my HTC Sensation
EDIT: Ok done it
I a installing ARHD...
So I am coming from 13.4 to 31.0... do I need to wipe the stuff in Aroma or can I go without wiping?
I advice you to full wipe all for a clean install and you won't have any issue.
However, backup your contacts, sms and other stuff you need before the full wipe.
p.s. Your sd won't be touched.
Guich said:
I advice you to full wipe all for a clean install and you won't have any issue.
However, backup your contacts, sms and other stuff you need before the full wipe.
p.s. Your sd won't be touched.
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I'm with this guy^^
Definitely wipe it. And it's good to have things backed up anyway. Once you get used to making your backups you can do a full wipe and rom install really quickly, I do them daily when I'm testing or trying out new builds.
My contacts are in google (gmail) and sync when I sign in at the setup screen, I backup and restore sms/mms and I use titanium backup for my user apps, but google installs most of my apps when I sign in. I also copy my entire sdcard storage over to a folder on my computer about every month or so, just in case something happens. I just select the whole thing, drag and drop it into it's own folder on my PC's hard drive.
We all have different methods, just gotta use a method thats best for you to make restoring after an install easy.
On a sidenote: With a jump in versions like that will you be installing different firmware? I dunno that it's required but if you are then you will get a slightly different answer.
CharliesTheMan said:
On a sidenote: With a jump in versions like that will you be installing different firmware? I dunno that it's required but if you are then you will get a slightly different answer.
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Isn't required, but is better upgrade also the firmware, because it's optimized for the new base
I can tell you that I tried a dirty upgrade (made a nandroid backup first thankfully) from 22.1 to 31, and it messed everything up. restored, backed up apps etc, did wipe through aroma, upgraded, havent had a problem.
couldnt get a firmware upgrade working (s off was giving me the dreaded 1 error, which apparently doesnt have a fix), but its working fine without.