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[Q] rooting droids for newbies

hi, i recently acquired my sweet DROID 3, its my first smart phone and i would like to know the very specifics of rooting it.. im very tech savvy so dont hold the info back, i know how to root it (thanks to google) but am just very wary on what all i can do with a rooted phone (compared to an unrooted one) all replies are welcome. thank you
also, if i were to root, what apps (stock apps) should i get rid of to further enhance the performance of my phone?
Sorry if the title is misleading guys, if you want to know the easiest way to root your droid go to redmondpie.com

Custom firmware is the biggest reason to root. Others would include free tethering and removing pesky bloatware.

Honestly until you start playing with bootloaders and stuff it is hard to mess up a rooted phone. The worse you will have to do is a factory reset.
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accophox, i am aware of the benefits of rooting, and i know the steps to take, but in what order? and do you know the easiest way to get rid of all those crappy stock apps?

Another newbie here....
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!

nathanb131 said:
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
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First, there really is no way to back up your phone without rooting it in the first place. If you do mess up badly, like bricking it, you can always use a program called RSD (found in the Droid 3 Android Development section) to restore the stock ROM.
If you aren't 100%, a ROM is basically the OS of your phone. Think of it as different versions of Linux (which is exactly what it is).
Second, as stated earlier, by simply rooting your phone, it's hard to mess it up. Rooting merely gives your phone additional permissions. Unless you start deleting stuff in Titanium backup, you are fine.
Third, One Click Root is very idiot proof. But I will run you through a very brief guide: Download and install the driver for your respective computer's OS here and download the latest version of Pete's One Click Root. http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/ Then, enable USB debugging by going under settings-> Applications-> Development, and checking the box. Assuming you have the correct drivers installed on your computer, you should plug your phone in and allow it to recognize the device and such. After it's all done, open up Pete's One Click Root and simply click Root My Phone. Let it do it's thing, then you are done.
Fourth, I never use Titanium Backup. To make a perfect back up of your device, download Rom Manager from the app marketplace. Then download the droid 3 bootstrap at http://goo.gl/b4b6L visit that link on your phone and make sure you have "Unknown Sources" checked under application settings on your phone. Open up Rom manager and Click the top option to get the correct version of ClockworkMod Recovery for your phone. Once that is done, open up the bootstrap application you just installed and click the top option (bootstrap recovery) wait for it to say Success! then click the second option. Your phone will reboot. Using the volume buttons on the side of your phone as up and down and the power button to select options, scroll down to Backup and Restore on CWM menu that popped up (it's blue). Select Backup. Note: Make sure your battery is at least 75%. Allow it to do it's thing, it will take a while. When it is done, click Reboot Now. You now have a perfect backup of your current system.
Fifth, Debloating your phone is kind of risky, at least in my opinion. A safer option is to install an app called Script Manager and download and run the script found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 Instead of removing your bloat, it simply renames it and prevents it from starting up. It also comes with an option to reverse the changes if you want bloat back.
Finally, I would recommend following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056 to installing Steel Droid V3. Steel Droid is a simple Rom that doesn't require you to wipe all your data and is still pretty neat. I would run the script I mentioned earlier AFTER flashing to Steel Droid though.
Looking back, that is a **** load of text. I typed it all for you so I hope you get some use out of it
Have fun customizing your phone!

It may sound a little mean but go start reading threads. If someone tells you step by step, great you've done it but do you have any idea what you've done. All the info is in these threads. Its ridiculous how much I've learned reading every thread I can since I joined in august. When you don't understand what it is you're doing, that's when you goof **** up and post help me threads
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Thanks. You guys are awesome!
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Slayer621 - a thousand thanks for the baby steps! Best walkthrough I've seen and exactly what I needed to know!
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No problem! Just make sure you are careful. Don't do anything without checking on these forums for the possible outcomes. Deleting a seemingly useless file could make your phone a paper weight!

[Q] I can only send a text message to 10 people max at one, why?

Hi, when i try to send a text to multiple people with one text message, I'm only allowed to send to 10 people max, is there a way to get rid of this?
Cheers.

Check this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755

I believe this could be a limitation of the ROM or the service you are using. Search the developer forum for a ROM that gets past this limit and check with your phone service provider (I read somewhere that Verizon has this limit, but can't vouch for that as I am in different country)

thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?

Yes- have a look at the developer forum - there are details here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
and here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Dr Ketan is the man!

salespalace said:
thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?
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That used to be the case, but there is now an easier way which flashing pre rooted ROMs directly and you're good to go, here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025
As for the .apk mod, I never tried myself honestly but there are versions for GB and for ICS, any .apk with ZCLP in it's name is for ICS you don't need that, take the other ones

I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.

It's been that long since I rooted my phone I've forgotten how to do a backup without rooting! Titanium backup needs root.
Have you tried booting into recovery mode then doing a backup from the menu that appears (vol up+home then press power until Galaxy Note boot screen appears then let go of all buttons) I'm pretty sure you can backup from there.

salespalace said:
I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.
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You can have it either ways, wiped clean or not, up to you..
At the pre rooted ROMs thread there is a screen shot showing the three file you will find in the zips and the places they should be put at in Odin, if you do NOT want to wipe your data do NOT choose the CSC file, only flash PDA and phone (modem)
Or you can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps only, do NOT backup system apps but your settings will be lost of course
Your preference
EDIT: Sorry forgot you don't have root lol! Sorry have no idea how to backup without root, try the poster above me suggested

Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!

no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.

Kies should work. I wish I could remember what I did to create the backup - I've done a quick google and only found using adb and a terminal prompt, which I have never used. A quick search of Google Play shows some that may be worth a try and are free.
Wish I could be more help but for the life of me can't remember what I did that first night with my Note and got it to backup.
Good luck with Kies and enjoy flashing ROMs!

even kies doesnt work. i think astro backup will backup my files, as for settings ill just have to deal with it.

OK - good luck!
BTW - If you get heat issues after flashing - don't panic! Leave the phone off for five to ten minutes to cool down then charge it for an hour with the screen off. I found this was my biggest worry when I started flashing. Got really hot - thought the screen would melt. Now I just use the above process and never have problem.
All the best!

TempusFudgeIt said:
Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!
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Loool I just noticed this! Thanks!

salespalace said:
no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.
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Backup contacts with your Google account, most reliable way

thanks all, cant press thanks anymore, 8 thanks limit.
im now on the process rooting, but accidentally added the csc file, oh well..

I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.

salespalace said:
I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.
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To make sure you are rooted use a file explorer app (root explorer or ES file explorer)and try to copy a file (pic, video or anything) to /system folder
If it's saved then congrats you're rooted

[Q]Can someone help a beginner root to get rid of ATT bloatware?

New to the forums and the rooting scene. From me researching, it seems I can get rid of the ATT bloatware on my HTC One by rooting the phone. I've never rooted a phone in my life, and the vast majority of the tutorials on the site assume a working knowledge of what the heck they're talking about (which I don't...).
I was able to follow the tutorial in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182792) to successfully unlock the bootloader.
(1) What does unlocking the bootloader mean?
(2) When I unlocked the bootloader, my phone completely reset. Is that normal?
(3) The tutorial continues as if your phone didn't reset. Should I reboot back into the fastboot mode and plug back in to the comp to continue the tutorial?
(4) By unlocking the bootloader, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(5) If I root, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(6) If I root, how can I still use the stock OS and just get rid of the ATT bloatware?
(7) I see things talk about "NAND backups" before one should root. What are those?
(8) What are RUUs?
(9) What does "Odexed" and "De-Odexed" mean...?
Thanks in advance for the help. I want to learn this stuff and can't find any explicit answers in these forums. I don't want to damage this brand new awesome phone.

jumi1174 said:
New to the forums and the rooting scene. From me researching, it seems I can get rid of the ATT bloatware on my HTC One by rooting the phone. I've never rooted a phone in my life, and the vast majority of the tutorials on the site assume a working knowledge of what the heck they're talking about (which I don't...).
I was able to follow the tutorial in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...182792&page=21) to successfully unlock the bootloader.
(1) What does unlocking the bootloader mean?
(2) When I unlocked the bootloader, my phone completely reset. Is that normal?
(3) The tutorial continues as if your phone didn't reset. Should I reboot back into the fastboot mode and plug back in to the comp to continue the tutorial?
(4) By unlocking the bootloader, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(5) If I root, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(6) If I root, how can I still use the stock OS and just get rid of the ATT bloatware?
(7) I see things talk about "NAND backups" before one should root. What are those?
(8) What are RUUs?
(9) What does "Odexed" and "De-Odexed" mean...?
Thanks in advance for the help. I want to learn this stuff and can't find any explicit answers in these forums. I don't want to damage this brand new awesome phone.
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i would ike many of the same answers
experts help us!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

Im still very new to all of this as well, but i wanted to share this toolkit with you just encase you havent seen it yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942 Its been a tremendous help to me, hopefully it will be to you.
As far as the AT&T bloatware is concerned, It was very easy to remove once i was rooted and had flashed a new ROM. Ive used both Titanium Backup, and Rom Toolkit Pro to remove the junk.
Best of luck with your devices, Ive had a great time learning with mine so far.

jumi1174 said:
New to the forums and the rooting scene. From me researching, it seems I can get rid of the ATT bloatware on my HTC One by rooting the phone. I've never rooted a phone in my life, and the vast majority of the tutorials on the site assume a working knowledge of what the heck they're talking about (which I don't...).
I was able to follow the tutorial in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...182792&page=21) to successfully unlock the bootloader.
(1) What does unlocking the bootloader mean?
(2) When I unlocked the bootloader, my phone completely reset. Is that normal?
(3) The tutorial continues as if your phone didn't reset. Should I reboot back into the fastboot mode and plug back in to the comp to continue the tutorial?
(4) By unlocking the bootloader, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(5) If I root, will I receive OTAs from ATT?
(6) If I root, how can I still use the stock OS and just get rid of the ATT bloatware?
(7) I see things talk about "NAND backups" before one should root. What are those?
(8) What are RUUs?
(9) What does "Odexed" and "De-Odexed" mean...?
Thanks in advance for the help. I want to learn this stuff and can't find any explicit answers in these forums. I don't want to damage this brand new awesome phone.
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1. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery onto your device. It's a necessary step in the rooting process until s-off is obtained
2. This is 100% normal. It is strongly advised you backup everything before unlocking due to this.
3. The link in your post to that tutorial is broken so there is no way to see what you mean. Sorry.
4. You cannot receive OTA while the bootloader is unlocked. You would need to relock your bootloader to continue with an OTA update.
5. As of now, no due to having to unlock your bootloader. Please see answer 4.
6. You would need to flash a zip file in a custom recovery to debloat your phone. There are other ways but this is the best way for a very new user. Link to debloat zip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250403
7. Nandbackup or Nandroid are complete backups of your phone's firmware. It's recommended to have one good up to date backup so if something goes wrong on a new ROM you flashed, you can easily revert. Nandroids are created in custom recoveries like TWRP.
8. An RUU is a package for your phone that contains a set of stock images used to unroot your phone and return it to complete stock. It stands for ROM Update Utility.
9. Odexed is the default state of the stock ROM. What it means is that a separate .odex cache file is stored away from a system app. It allows the app to load faster as upon boot your phone loads these cache files into the Dalvik VM. When a developer De-Odexes a ROM it means they have taken away those cache files and instead compiled them within the system app. This, in theory is a bit slower, but only when you clear your Dalvik and cache from recovery, otherwise you will notice no difference. The reason a developer does this is it makes the system app easily modifiable and themable. In summary, Deodex equals easily modifiable, whereas odex means the app is more locked down.
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Thanks RPelham,
I hate to piggyback on someone else's thread, but they may want the answer to my question as well.
Is it a good idea to clear system and Dalvik cache from within recovery every now and then? Im used to the PC world, where clearing cache from time to time helps keep things in order.

Snakemanc6 said:
Thanks RPelham,
I hate to piggyback on someone else's thread, but they may want the answer to my question as well.
Is it a good idea to clear system and Dalvik cache from within recovery every now and then? Im used to the PC world, where clearing cache from time to time helps keep things in order.
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No. You only need to clear Dalvik and Cache when flashing a new ROM, Kernel or basically any ZIP package. It won't serve any good purpose to randomly clear it. =)
Android has a great built in way of keeping your phone running great and killing any app that has not been recently used to keep everything running smooth.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

behrouz said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Awesome videos, thanks!
RPelham said:
1. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery onto your device. It's a necessary step in the rooting process until s-off is obtained
2. This is 100% normal. It is strongly advised you backup everything before unlocking due to this.
3. The link in your post to that tutorial is broken so there is no way to see what you mean. Sorry.
4. You cannot receive OTA while the bootloader is unlocked. You would need to relock your bootloader to continue with an OTA update.
5. As of now, no due to having to unlock your bootloader. Please see answer 4.
6. You would need to flash a zip file in a custom recovery to debloat your phone. There are other ways but this is the best way for a very new user. Link to debloat zip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250403
7. Nandbackup or Nandroid are complete backups of your phone's firmware. It's recommended to have one good up to date backup so if something goes wrong on a new ROM you flashed, you can easily revert. Nandroids are created in custom recoveries like TWRP.
8. An RUU is a package for your phone that contains a set of stock images used to unroot your phone and return it to complete stock. It stands for ROM Update Utility.
9. Odexed is the default state of the stock ROM. What it means is that a separate .odex cache file is stored away from a system app. It allows the app to load faster as upon boot your phone loads these cache files into the Dalvik VM. When a developer De-Odexes a ROM it means they have taken away those cache files and instead compiled them within the system app. This, in theory is a bit slower, but only when you clear your Dalvik and cache from recovery, otherwise you will notice no difference. The reason a developer does this is it makes the system app easily modifiable and themable. In summary, Deodex equals easily modifiable, whereas odex means the app is more locked down.
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Thanks for the awesome reply!
This is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182792
Sorry it was dead, I'll edit my original post.
Another question if you don't mind (may be a stupid question), if I root, will I still be able to purchase apps from the play store without any trouble?

behrouz said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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These videos are an absolute perfect example of how to unlock and root. Step by step. If you are new, this will be the perfect go to for help.
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jumi1174 said:
Another question if you don't mind (may be a stupid question), if I root, will I still be able to purchase apps from the play store without any trouble?
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Yes, you absolutely can. The only thing Root is giving you is administration level access to your phone. Obtaining root gives you the ability to modify, remove or add core system files and gives apps a lot more functionality as they can integrate themselves into the system.
And to answer question 3:
Yes the phone resets after you unlock your bootloader and it boots back into your phone. Simply reboot back to your bootloader and enter fastboot mode to continue flashing your recovery.
After you flash the recovery, it will boot back into your phone again (once you select recovery from the bootloader menu for the first time after the flash). Don't be alarmed by this, just reboot once more, select your recovery option again and this time it will truely take you to recovery.
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RPelham said:
Yes, you absolutely can. The only thing Root is giving you is administration level access to your phone. Obtaining root gives you the ability to modify, remove or add core system files and gives apps a lot more functionality as they can integrate themselves into the system.
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Thanks for all the help. One more if you don't mind (I appreciate your patience with helping a beginner like myself), will my phone be reset again when I root?

jumi1174 said:
Thanks for all the help. One more if you don't mind (I appreciate your patience with helping a beginner like myself), will my phone be reset again when I root?
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No. Once you unlocked your bootloader your phone will not reset unless you flash a custom ROM or specifically wipe your device. Rooting will retain all settings and apps.
P.s. I'm heading off for the night. I hope I answered everything for you and helped you obtain a better understanding over this whole process. Ill follow up tomorrow to see if everything worked out for you and answer any additional questions. =)
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

RPelham said:
No. Once you unlocked your bootloader your phone will not reset unless you flash a custom ROM or specifically wipe your device. Rooting will retain all settings and apps.
P.s. I'm heading off for the night. I hope I answered everything for you and helped you obtain a better understanding over this whole process. Ill follow up tomorrow to see if everything worked out for you and answer any additional questions. =)
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
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Excellent! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it! I'll edit this post if I have any more questions.
More questions:
(1) All the files on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
What is the purpose of all these different files? Should I be familiar with them and will I ever need to use them?
(2) This package: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250403
I'm not exactly sure how to install it. Any advice or tips?
(3) The instructions for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192324
-Download ROM
-Copy ROM to your sdcard
-Fullwipe in AROMA if you come from another ROM or base
-Flash the ROM
-Let the ROM boot (After a Fullwipe this takes some time)
-Enjoy TrickDroid
I understand the first 2 steps, but what does "Fullwipe in AROMA" mean?
(4) Difference between a ROM and a KERNEL?
(5) Are you familiar with Titanium Backup? I've tried reading their wiki, but I'm still not 100% sure what exactly it backs up and how that is different than the TWRP back up.

jumi1174 said:
Excellent! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it! I'll edit this post if I have any more questions.
More questions:
(1) All the files on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
What is the purpose of all these different files? Should I be familiar with them?
(2) This package: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250403
I'm not exactly sure how to install it. Any advice or tips?
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Hi.
1) they are just ruu for many different carriers, countries, etc. There is a specific ruu for your device. That's why so many ruu there
2) no need for that. Just install titanium backup pro from play store after rooting and you can delete all bloatwares or freeze them. Which will also get rid of those unwanted apps from your phone.
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RPelham said:
1. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery onto your device. It's a necessary step in the rooting process until s-off is obtained
7. Nandbackup or Nandroid are complete backups of your phone's firmware. It's recommended to have one good up to date backup so if something goes wrong on a new ROM you flashed, you can easily revert. Nandroids are created in custom recoveries like TWRP.
8. An RUU is a package for your phone that contains a set of stock images used to unroot your phone and return it to complete stock. It stands for ROM Update Utility.
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Hello mate
I have 2 questions.
Number 7, how do I make backup of your rom if you still haven't installed custom recovery?
Number 8 to unroot my phone I can also use the nandroid backup instead of ruu right?
Edit: 1 more Lol. Sorry.
I asked many places but didn't get an answer for it.
Let's say I have custom ROM, and I need to relock boot loader and flash stock ruu to go back to stock in order to receive ota update. Does the ruu contains the stock recovery? Cuz I read somewhere that in order to get ota update I also needed to flash stock recovery?
Thanks a lot! I think I'm all set after this kkk

If anyone has an answer to this question I'd appreciate it very much. I've rooted many phones but all of them have had SD cards. The HTC One is lacking an SD Card so when I back up data/apks etc is there a spot on the phone's storage that doesn't get wiped when wiping from recovery to install new roms?

gotrandom said:
If anyone has an answer to this question I'd appreciate it very much. I've rooted many phones but all of them have had SD cards. The HTC One is lacking an SD Card so when I back up data/apks etc is there a spot on the phone's storage that doesn't get wiped when wiping from recovery to install new roms?
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Nope. All gets wiped. Backup on ur PC.

Uh oh. I just told him the opposite in another thread. I could swear I read that selecting a "wipe userdata" option in recovery would erase everything in the /data partition *except* whatever is below /data/media?
Did I get this wrong?
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Ive flashed a couple of different ROMs, and my media has not been erased when selecting "wipe user data". Im using CWM, if that's of any consequence.

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Ive flashed a couple of different ROMs, and my media has not been erased when selecting "wipe user data". Im using CWM, if that's of any consequence.
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Sorry then. I saw a video on yt saying all would be deleted. I will try to find and post it here.
Edit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvbwWTbZOU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

He was using TWRP, no idea if that makes a difference. Just passing on my experience, Im by no means well versed in all of this lol
Its great having such an active forum to learn from though :good:

ksarius said:
Hi.
1) they are just ruu for many different carriers, countries, etc. There is a specific ruu for your device. That's why so many ruu there
2) no need for that. Just install titanium backup pro from play store after rooting and you can delete all bloatwares or freeze them. Which will also get rid of those unwanted apps from your phone.
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Hello mate
I have 2 questions.
Number 7, how do I make backup of your rom if you still haven't installed custom recovery?
Number 8 to unroot my phone I can also use the nandroid backup instead of ruu right?
Edit: 1 more Lol. Sorry.
I asked many places but didn't get an answer for it.
Let's say I have custom ROM, and I need to relock boot loader and flash stock ruu to go back to stock in order to receive ota update. Does the ruu contains the stock recovery? Cuz I read somewhere that in order to get ota update I also needed to flash stock recovery?
Thanks a lot! I think I'm all set after this kkk
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Im not 100% sure as I do not use Titanium, if someone could check that would be great, but I don't think titanium can permanently remove bloat yet. Freeze, yes, remove I'm unsure.
Our device has not achieved s-off which means that the partition the system apps sit on is not accessible to be altered from within the ROM, only by recovery / adb.
7. To my knowledge you must have a custom recovery to make a nandroid. You can't make a complete one without it. And once you nandroid, that backup is specifically for that recovery. I.e. you fly use a cwm nandroid in twrp
8. As long as your nandroid was created before installing the root package, yes.
RUUs will reflash stock recovery.
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jumi1174 said:
Excellent! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it! I'll edit this post if I have any more questions.
More questions:
(1) All the files on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
What is the purpose of all these different files? Should I be familiar with them and will I ever need to use them?
(2) This package: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250403
I'm not exactly sure how to install it. Any advice or tips?
(3) The instructions for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192324
-Download ROM
-Copy ROM to your sdcard
-Fullwipe in AROMA if you come from another ROM or base
-Flash the ROM
-Let the ROM boot (After a Fullwipe this takes some time)
-Enjoy TrickDroid
I understand the first 2 steps, but what does "Fullwipe in AROMA" mean?
(4) Difference between a ROM and a KERNEL?
(5) Are you familiar with Titanium Backup? I've tried reading their wiki, but I'm still not 100% sure what exactly it backs up and how that is different than the TWRP back up.
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1 and 2 were answered above. I also elaborated on 2 above.
3. Aroma is an installation software made for recovery. It's a wizard that walks you through the ROM setup. You'll see an option for it while setting up the ROM
4. Kernel is the software that allows your hardware to communicate with your ROM as well as control boot screens, splash screens and overclocking and undervolting.
ROM is the phones operating system.
5. TWRP is a FULL backup, titanium is just an app, it can't backup 100% of everything like a recovery can. Titanium backs up your app and user data. Basically your settings and apps.
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[Q] RUU

Hi, I did a lot of things with my One Mini 2 and I actually really don't know what to do anymore... So much options and yet there always seems to be a problem. Let me explain everything.
What I did:
-flashed a custom rom, then went back to a stock rom of this forum
-flashed the dt2w kernel, it messed up my phone so I then flashed the liberty one, which worked
But with the liberty one I had some memory problems, for exemple I couldn't take screenshots... That's why I decided that I wanted to put my phone just as it was when I bought it, I really hope that's possible, by that I mean having official firmwares etc, therefore being able to do official upgrades from my phone (is that what OTA is?).
I looked on internet and it looks like what I need is RUU, as it includes everything (from what I understood)... I know a lot of threads were made about this, but quite a few months ago, so that's why I'm making a new one, and to make things clear.
Also, I downloaded an official kernel from htcdev.com, but each time I tried flashing it with TWRP, it "failed".
So, if you guys have an answer, solution or, in best case, the actual RUU, that would be great.
Thanx

Linkalex1 said:
Hi, I did a lot of things with my One Mini 2 and I actually really don't know what to do anymore... So much options and yet there always seems to be a problem. Let me explain everything.
What I did:
-flashed a custom rom, then went back to a stock rom of this forum
-flashed the dt2w kernel, it messed up my phone so I then flashed the liberty one, which worked
But with the liberty one I had some memory problems, for exemple I couldn't take screenshots... That's why I decided that I wanted to put my phone just as it was when I bought it, I really hope that's possible, by that I mean having official firmwares etc, therefore being able to do official upgrades from my phone (is that what OTA is?).
I looked on internet and it looks like what I need is RUU, as it includes everything (from what I understood)... I know a lot of threads were made about this, but quite a few months ago, so that's why I'm making a new one, and to make things clear.
Also, I downloaded an official kernel from htcdev.com, but each time I tried flashing it with TWRP, it "failed".
So, if you guys have an answer, solution or, in best case, the actual RUU, that would be great.
Thanx
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Still no RUU's avaiable as HTC wont release them. your best option is to use TWRP backup and restore.
Original stock backup

Thank you, but my backup kind of disappeared... I saw your post where there was the "HTC Original Backup.zip", I tried to flash but again it failed... Am I supposed to flash it as a backup?

Linkalex1 said:
Thank you, but my backup kind of disappeared... I saw your post where there was the "HTC Original Backup.zip", I tried to flash but again it failed... Am I supposed to flash it as a backup?
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You need to send it as it is to your phone and use TWRP > restore. choose file and done.

Thanx so much for answering... I uses the backup you told me to. Although I had to use the "install" option instead of the backup one, it now works perfectly! But how do I know if my phone is "official"? Are the upgrades going to be made straight from the phone?

Linkalex1 said:
Thanx so much for answering... I uses the backup you told me to. Although I had to use the "install" option instead of the backup one, it now works perfectly! But how do I know if my phone is "official"? Are the upgrades going to be made straight from the phone?
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Yes OTA updates should work just fine. just look for updates in settings>about >software update.
you may have one for polaris office.

Hi, I just want to check this too before I screw up wife's phone..
She has CM12 on her phone now as I replaced recovery as well as unlocking bootloader. Now she wants it back to stock as too many things crash on her. I get that I can install your backup but what worries me is that other posts have said you need the stock recovery to allow for OTA updates to work and the link to this no longer works.
She MUST have OTA updates or my balls will be removed, so can you please confirm this, but also explain why.
Thanks (on behalf of my testicles and unborn children!)
(Oh, and she wants it unrooted ant the bootloader relocked)

arm1e said:
Hi, I just want to check this too before I screw up wife's phone..
She has CM12 on her phone now as I replaced recovery as well as unlocking bootloader. Now she wants it back to stock as too many things crash on her. I get that I can install your backup but what worries me is that other posts have said you need the stock recovery to allow for OTA updates to work and the link to this no longer works.
She MUST have OTA updates or my balls will be removed, so can you please confirm this, but also explain why.
Thanks (on behalf of my testicles and unborn children!)
(Oh, and she wants it unrooted ant the bootloader relocked)
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Stock Recovery
To unroot just lock bootloader:
fastboot oem lock

Rooting and choosing ROM

Hi, I'm using this phone for a year and a half. It's starting to slow down so I'm planning to wipe it. While doing this, I'll root it (I'm still on stock ROM with locked bootloader).
As our phone is not quite supported with OTA (only security updates, no more bug fixes or new features), I'm wondering if jumping to a custom ROM is not the best way to keep my phone running well.
I haven't checked for the custom ROM scene for at least a couple years.
What ROMs are well supported/bugless/useable as daily driver?
I'm not sure of what features that's aren't in stock will be useful to me (I'll just add Magisk and a couple modules)
Should I stay on stock ROM, switch to LineageOS, or another ROM? Before jumping in, what can I backup as I'm not root yet?
Thanks a lot

well, this all depends on personal preference, I'd recommend you try out various ROMs and get the one for you but if I was to choose a ROM or two that matches what you've said that has to be the pixel experience Rom. It's minimalistic and gives you the stock android experience. it also is updated on a regular basis.
as for the backup, it's recommended that you do it before everything else, the image file and whatnot. I'd tell you to research on how you would go back to stock if forbid something bad happens(download the right Software for flashing back. But if you already know this just do a regular twrp backup and you'll be fine)

frankaces said:
well, this all depends on personal preference, I'd recommend you try out various ROMs and get the one for you but if I was to choose a ROM or two that matches what you've said that has to be the pixel experience Rom. It's minimalistic and gives you the stock android experience. it also is updated on a regular basis.
as for the backup, it's recommended that you do it before everything else, the image file and whatnot. I'd tell you to research on how you would go back to stock if forbid something bad happens(download the right Software for flashing back. But if you already know this just do a regular twrp backup and you'll be fine)
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Hi, thanks for your reply. I'll look at this ROM then.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to install TWRP, I need to unlock my bootloader. To do so, all my data will be wiped out. Sure I can backup photos, videos, text messages, but not apps or no full TWRP backups.

Bump !
Thanks

Thibault1171 said:
Bump !
Thanks
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yes the only way is with unlocked bootloader and yout date will be wiped
there are special tools to backup to pc or use otg usb to copy it using xiaomi migrate
but yeah ....
that is why smart people root first

KevMetal said:
yes the only way is with unlocked bootloader and yout date will be wiped
there are special tools to backup to pc or use otg usb to copy it using xiaomi migrate
but yeah ....
that is why smart people root first
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Hi, sorry didn't saw your reply earlier.
I didn't root first because according to my memory, I had a delay before being able to unlock bootloader after purchase
What do you mean by "Xiaomi migrate"? = Mi mover? If so I'm not sure I can use it to backup my phone. Or I must use a second phone as storage

Thibault1171 said:
Hi, sorry didn't saw your reply earlier.
I didn't root first because according to my memory, I had a delay before being able to unlock bootloader after purchase
What do you mean by "Xiaomi migrate"? = Mi mover? If so I'm not sure I can use it to backup my phone. Or I must use a second phone as storage
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you can use external otg or cloud to save the data ..

Hi, thanks for your help.
I finally installed back stock rom+magisk using this guide
Just have to use this trick between OTA
I tried to install twice Pixel Experience and getting bootloop using this guide
Is their a way to install TWRP with stock rom and be able to use OTA, or is it better to start it when needed using fastboot?
Thanks

Thibault1171 said:
Hi, thanks for your help.
I finally installed back stock rom+magisk using this guide
Just have to use this trick between OTA
I tried to install twice Pixel Experience and getting bootloop using this guide
Is their a way to install TWRP with stock rom and be able to use OTA, or is it better to start it when needed using fastboot?
Thanks
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for OTA purposes I would just use it through fastboot