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Xoom vs nexus 7 jelly bean vid

Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Xoom looks so washed out in color compared to the 7......for a nightly on the zoom it runs pretty good

you could have cleaned the screen on the Xoom before you made the vid!! lol

I should have. Lol
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Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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razorseal said:
Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.

brizey said:
Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.
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we had a kindle. Lovely device... until the nexus came out.
You can't even utilize things like Google voice, maps with gps etc.
But I guess that still counts. I would never put the kindle in the same category as these devices though. We had one until 2 days ago. It sold within 10 minutes, which was $135
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I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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Perfect.
You're gonna love the nexus 7 if you are coming from the kindle. Like I said, we are coming from a fire, and it's night and day. Maybe if I rooted the kf, it would have been closer. But I don't like to root devices my other half is using. I only root the stuff I use.
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Clienterror said:
You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....

B-Mod said:
I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....
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Lol.. one for all the members in the family? Lol
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razorseal said:
Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Good video I cant wait for it to offically be release I might say screw it to my data plan with Verizon lol

guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.

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guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.
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I was going to say... you kind of crippled the Xoom having the wallpaper up. While the n7 was made for jellybean I think its more a product of having such newer hardware in the n7 compared to the Xoom. You have faster memory, quad core, and a more powerful GPU on the n7. Even though PPI settings are set higher for the n7, effectively you have less going on, less screen real estate etc for the same or similar resolution. I'd like to see the build.prop edited on the Xoom the same as the n7 if it could be displayed without crashing with everything possible configured the same. I think you are still going to see the fact that the n7 is a generation newer processor wise will still beat out the Xoom.
On the other hand, it still looks pretty nice on the Xoom. Jb breathes new life into dual core devices!
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indeed...
video is rendering still, when done, here is the link
http://youtu.be/4yVH53OD9UM

As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.

oldblue910 said:
As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.
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you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!

Your accent is ridiculous. Good comparison though.

smirkis said:
you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!
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OK you're right, I stand corrected. You can probably build for the wingray and stringray out of what's there now, but there are still no binaries for JB for either the Xoom or Nexus S. I'd imagine things will still run better once that stuff is available, particularly updated graphics drivers.

Anyone managed to put the note 2 os on to the note yet?

I have been watching videos on youtube and the note 2 is pretty epic...the way you can have two apps running on the same page just like a laptop etc just looks pretty epic.
If some one has done it, link me to it, or if someone is in the process and it comes out in time, then remember me and link me to it
Lol thanks guys
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It's part of the new Touchwizz framework so sources aren't available and we can't port the note 2 roms to the note because it's different hardware and drivers. There's a chance they'll include some of the note 2 features such as pick up to answer in the jb official release but that's all speculation at this point, just have to wait.
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But surely if someone has managed to get HTC sense working (is) on the note then the drivers etc should not be to hard?
Well it would be hard for me but I have no idea what so ever lol
I really hope someone does it at some point, because it does look rather impressive.
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mrcarlxx said:
But surely if someone has managed to get HTC sense working (is) on the note then the drivers etc should not be to hard?
Well it would be hard for me but I have no idea what so ever lol
I really hope someone does it at some point, because it does look rather impressive.
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I believe HTC release the source code for sense to their developer network, whereas samsung don't.
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Upgrade time - How's the CM experience?

Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced

m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing

ticklemepinks said:
i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.

To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.

Zor Omega said:
I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar

The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.

You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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systemshock869 said:
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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systemshock869 said:
Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.

sauprankul said:
Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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the.emilio said:
On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?

[DISCUSSION][CM] Project Nemesis

So guys I don't know how many of you are CM fans, I know that since I had my first Droid X I kept hearing things about CM, as time passed I learned the beauty of flashing Roms to our loved phones and getting the best out of them, CM has always kept me amazed with all the improvements they have made to this beautiful platform, so changes very deep inside for us to know, but now there´s a new project, PROJECT NEMESIS, I've been waiting for its release like a kid waiting for christmas :laugh: , my hopes are very high and I´d like to hear your ideas of what all this could be! :fingers-crossed:
http://cyngn.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS27Kxwjq5s

This was already talked about weeks ago. The first part of it CM Focal has already been merged into 10.2
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Great....anyone have guesses to what's next?
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Device locator, then hopefully secure sms
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I hope for message app, which will work like "iMessage" for all Cyanogen devices.
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iPsychoGeek said:
I hope for message app, which will work like "iMessage" for all Cyanogen devices.
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Good luck with that. The market share for 'cyanogen messaging' would be very slim. Chances of meeting someone with that service would be slim.
It would idealistically have to be a app within its own similar to Kik or WhatsApp.

as far as im concerned CM sucks big time. supporting too many devices right now. which really puts a halt to developing new apps/ideas or introducing new freatures.

Really? They just released focal and voice+ and now they're doing cm account to find or lock a lost phone. Those apps/ideas seem pretty new. Plus color and gamma settings. What more do you want?
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I really wish that we get Zoe Mode like camera functionality in camera. That's really a killer feature...
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Back to Nexus.

Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back lol
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1slow4G said:
Welcome back lol
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I should have never left lol
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Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Welcome back and I recommend crDroid. It's smooth and stable and has Focal and Halo and a whole lot more. You can find it in the Nexus 4 Android Development forum.
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Misledz said:
Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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mirGantrophy said:
Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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I agree. HTC is my favorite when it comes to hardware. I've had the N1 and a One X+ from them.This is going to be my first LG. I know when Google works with companies on their Nexus phones they're usually top notch. My last one was a Galaxy Nexus and I was amazed by the build and it felt perfect in the hands. I can't wait to see how the Nexus 5 is.
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Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Misledz said:
Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...

luiseteyo said:
Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...
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Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Misledz said:
Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?

luiseteyo said:
Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?
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Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Misledz said:
Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think

luiseteyo said:
Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think
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True but the fact that it boasts about waterproof, build quality and parts, gaming controller instigation for Ps3 and PS4 it's almost like they know how to build a sturdy tablet. Nexus 7 just has a popular dad and a reliable company which makes it popular.
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BIGSx420 said:
Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.

nabilfahim said:
Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.
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I actually used it a lot. I would use it when I lost my remotes and got too lazy to look for them. At the sports bars to mess with my friends and some other random things. The funniest part of having it was when people would ask what app I used. Mainly iPhone users. Then i would have to explain it needs an ir blaster! Maybe the next iPhone will have them (not) lol
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Try Vanir ROM. It's the smoothest and fastest I've used, it has some unique features and a CM10.2 base. Also has Pie, Halo, Focal and tons of USEFUL tweaks.
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Welcome back... but sorry, ROM recommendation threads aren't allowed. Just read and search and flash away.
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