The silver HTC One is the natural color of aluminum but what about the black model? Is it the same technique as HTC One S? Or it is just the black color being coated on the aluminum frame? Is it easy to be scratched? Thank you
I believe that it is just black being coated onto the aluminum, and have heard that it is sort of easy to get scratched, oh and I have seen that it is a fingerprint magnet, unlike the silver one.
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BlackMiracle said:
The silver HTC One is the natural color of aluminum but what about the black model? Is it the same technique as HTC One S? Or it is just the black color being coated on the aluminum frame? Is it easy to be scratched? Thank you
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It's anodized black, essentially, a thin layer of the top of the aluminium has a whole lot of tiny tiny holes in it and they has a dye in it. since it is so thin, when it scratches, it shows the undyed aluminium underneath it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodizing
Aluminium anodizing is usually performed in an acid solution which slowly dissolves the aluminium oxide. The acid action is balanced with the oxidation rate to form a coating with nanopores, 10-150 nm in diameter.[6] These pores are what allow the electrolyte solution and current to reach the aluminium substrate and continue growing the coating to greater thickness beyond what is produced by autopassivation.[8] However, these same pores will later permit air or water to reach the substrate and initiate corrosion if not sealed. They are often filled with colored dyes and/or corrosion inhibitors before sealing. Because the dye is only superficial, the underlying oxide may continue to provide corrosion protection even if minor wear and scratches may break through the dyed layer.
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Both (all three?) colours are anodised aluminium alloy of undisclosed ingredients.
Aluminium oxidises as soon as it is subjected to air, so you only know the colour of aluminium oxide.
Anyway, when you anodise aluminium and its alloys, you encourage a deeper layer of oxide to build above and below the original surface, this oxide is harder than plain aluminium oxide and porous; allowing a dye to be taken up, and then usually a sealant on top.
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Who knows what the silver color frame is made of.
It seems to be some kind of metal "cap" on a plastic frame.
But what metal ?
What do you think/know about it ?
Calico
its just sprayed plastic, probably a polycarbonate
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its just sprayed plastic, probably a polycarbonate
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Then they have changed their production process: on some review, when the backplate is removed and they zoomed on the interior, you can clearly see the side edge of solid metal, or at least a .5 mm thick metal cap.
If you are sure of that, together with report of no-so-solid impression in hand, and comments on yellowish not so sharp screen (while the reviewers invariably praise the screen which seems bluish on all the TD2 pics posted), makes me think maybe there is 2 atches of TD2 out there.
One solid one, send to reviewers
and one shaky one, available for buy....
Scary....
...and completely unacceptable, if it is true and the devices are SO different, HTC is in deep trouble, class action is virtually certain...
EDIT: looking again at the review pictures, i am not so sure about the metal front anymore, it could well be polycarbonate with a nice metallic paint job....Disappointing, such paints usually do not age nicely, after a year or two you usually start to see the plastic under at points where u have friction (corners). And if they have a bad batch, it can even crack and peel off...I liked the metallic front for durability, but if it is just painting, I would prefer the MDA V design :-(. I can not wait till this one is out though, I'll report on the build quality when I get my TD2 next week...
The polished cover mod didn't really appeal to me or the device as far as finger prints went and the original looks well, too matte. So I tried something a little different. It's basically the standard appearance with the matte coating sanded off as well as some of the grey removed. The result is a satin (not glossy) light grey which complements the rubber backing very nicely (think Mac OS X v10.4's Brushed metal window appearance).
I'm curious - what exactly is it made of? I would be concerned that it might rust with the finish being off of it.
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I'm curious - what exactly is it made of? I would be concerned that it might rust with the finish being off of it.
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I think that as long as he keeps his phone away from water then rust would never even be a consideration.
Do you get your phone wet often?
Hey guys,
dont know what kind of backcover you have but mine is defintly made of stainless steel or some other kind of alloy. Its no alluminium and its no "normal" steel cause its not going to rust
so dont worry
John: I think he just means from general moisture contact. i.e a slightly moist benchtop, or general moisture in the air. Especially if your palm sweats as it contains small traces of sodium which without a doubt speed up corrosion.
Everyone else: Its definitely steel or a mild alloy of steel as RayDog said. The coating has been scratching off for some time especially at the edges. If it was going to rust it would have started after 1 year of having the device. It cannot be aluminium as it is far too difficult to scratch and Al. is a soft metal. I was etching at the back with a blunt stanley knife and only the coating scratched off.
Had mine rubbed down for about 4 months now and I have no signs of oxidation.
I think a rusted battery cover would look sweet and fit in with my rusting vw golf hood.
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I think a rusted battery cover would look sweet and fit in with my rusting vw golf hood.
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hahaha we really need to ask xda for a like button
I like this! How did you do it?
The enamel on my cover is starting to come off. I thought it was just metal, but that was until it started peeling. I also prefer the brushed look instead of the chrome.
Is your cover basically just with all the enamel sanded off or something? What about the HTC logo etc?
Samsung please make in the next Galaxy S and Galaxy Note smartphone:
OIS
Aspherical lens in the lens (i dont know whether they are now in S5)
Remove modulation at medium and low brightness, as it did in the Fly IQ444 Diamond 2 Quattro, Motorola Razr HD (XT925) and LG G Flex
Remove all profiles except the cinema mode, because at testers gray is blue, red is orange, they specially put other profiles that have very cold tone (6500-6700K - cinema mode, 7500-8000K - others). Anyway all image are designed for SRGB standard, and enhanced range is color distortion and oversaturation
Metal Body (antennas should be behind the plastic, glass or other material, but not metal, so did HTC, Apple and Sony, otherwise the connection will be very bad)
Thanks
It would be ideal. Isocell, improved super amoled (brightness, viewing angles, color reproduction in cinema mode (106% instead of 122%, 100%-ideal), anti-glare), waterproof, interface speed and battery life is awesome.
What's wrong with a plastic body?
It can look just as premium as metal
It provides an actual grip.
It doesn't scratch as easy as metal.
It flexes so it won't dent and stuff.
It's lighter than metal.
There is a lower chance of breaking your internals when you drop it because plastic takes impacts better than metal. Similar to why car bumpers are made from plastic and not metal.
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What's wrong with a plastic body?
It can look just as premium as metal
It provides an actual grip.
It doesn't scratch as easy as metal.
It flexes so it won't dent and stuff.
It's lighter than metal.
There is a lower chance of breaking your internals when you drop it because plastic takes impacts better than metal. Similar to why car bumpers are made from plastic and not metal.
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Speed if dropped not so much
Metal looks solid and there is a feeling that you hold the thing for ages
The difference in weight is small
Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
I have the same experience. Maybe if it gets too bad I'll try the method used in this video.
http://youtu.be/EZuYzQrIHjA
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Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
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Is this the white or black version you are talking about?
I've got the Ringke Slim on mine and it covers the edges. No scratches on mine.
It's the black one I have...
the coloured part is immaculate still but the polished section looks a mess
My note 2 seemed to fair much better in terms of durability.
Also, the camera lens cover is very exposed on these, I hope it can be replaced somehow in the future (although no scratches yet)
Same here with the white one. Got scratches on the chamfered edge from being in a pants pocket for gods sake. Anybody know to go about buffing them out?
Sorry to hear that you are having those problems. I am not trying to burst your bubble but the "metal" finish around the Note 4 is NOT metal. I have have read a post on this forum of another person saying the same thing and so I went down to my nearest BB to check it out. I am now convinced that he was right.
Here is the test I carried out to prove the point. I found a Galaxy Alpha and examined the similar finish and that is truly metal. With the AC in Best Buy I was able to put the Alpha to my cheek and you can feel the coldness of the metal. I then walked over to the Samsung store in BB and did the same with ALL the Note 4s on display and they were all just at reasonable temp. Also on the Alpha it will be noticed that the headphone jack and the charging port is covered in plastic or rubber inside of the metal cutout. Take a look at he N4 slot for the pen or the headphone jack and you will see that the white plastic is just covered by the " metal" finish.
That my friend is why you are having scuff marks already on your new device. It is JUST a "METAL" finish on the outside. Now if there is a metal frame it is on the inside, not on the outside like the Alpha. Can't wait to see a teardown from folks like IFIXIT to confirm. I could be wrong but until proven wrong I will stand by my cheek test.
No, it is metal (aluminium I believe ) but it is very thin. When you look at the headphone jack port like you say there is plastic but there is still a thin metal part of the frame...
Samsung wouldn't have needed to add the spacers in the frame (small white blocks top and bottom) if it was metal effect. These are there for the antennas to work properly in the metal.
Aluminium is a very soft metal, perhaps if they chose a more sturdy, harder metal like titanium for example then we wouldn't be having this problem but then we would have paid more for the already expensive phone.
For me I'll just end up keeping the TPU case on, it feels better in the hand and against the ear (metal frame has quite sharp edges) and offers some protection without adding much bulk to the device. Maybe once the phone has been used a while I'll look into customising the frame with either plastidip or hydroprint.
Yeah it would be made of aluminium. People wanting that "premium" look and feel. Just like the iPhone and any other phone made of an alloy, looks awesome out of the box but after a while scratches will appear. Plastic resists much much better, that's just the way it is.
Also it would have been hilarious watching you going around touching the bezels with your face
remove the back cover and look at the frame closely: you can see that the whole frame is definitely NOT metal. it is plastic with metal coating or layer and some metal inlays.
I highly doubt that the frame only has a metal coating. If you check the YouTube video of the guy bending the ip6p, note 3 and 4 you will see the note 3 bend and bounce back because it's plastic. Alloy on the other hand bends and stays bent. Looking at you note 4.
Of course I could be wrong.
It does seem to be a thin metal covering over a plastic frame...
gives the look of a premium device but the protection and flexibility of a plastic device
The frame is made of metals collected from the moon and the back cover leather is made from the skin of puppies.
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Whether its a thin metal strip on the top or solid metal, the nature of being aluminium is that it will scratch easily. It is the same with the HTC One that also has a chamfered edge. I have read many reports of it getting scratched too easily. If you look closely at the edge you will see that at the very least it is a metal strip. Thickness has nothing to do with scratch resistance. So we can argue whether it's solid or not, but the relevance to the initial poster's issue that it scratches easily is zero!
Everyone complained about Samsung's cheap looking plastic bezel. Now we are complaining about the upmarket stylish metal one! I guess a finish like the edges of an iPhone 6 are the only option that will satisfy everyone's needs. Incidentally I do remember reports of people with the bumper case on an iphone 4...took it off, to find that the little imperfection nodules of plastic on the inside of the bumper were enough to rub and wear the metal surround of the phone!
And if they had anodized it, it would have prevented scratches (like Nokia n8),but would have caused the frame to crack more easily, unless they used more surface, or thicker pieces of aluminum, which in turn would affect other things. So pointless.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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Couldn't agree more!
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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Even in manufacturing these metals are impossible to keep pristine. I had an iPhone 4 with a small nick in the metal band out of the box. I had an HTC One with a couple of little nicks and microscratches in the band out of the box. And my note 4 also has a few imperfections. But then it's best not to study these phones under a spotlight because you will just find things you don't want to see!
I think/hope the issue lies with TPU cases simply because they, as all cases trap dirt under them but because they are TPU they have more movement.... the dirt gets ground against the polished edges. Hard cases like the Ringke do not have this movement...
Would be helpful to others if people who are experiencing this issue state which cases they have used.
Thanks.
Any ideas on a nonslip thin cover for the bottom of the Gemini or very small felt or rubber feet?
I expect to receive my unit soon.
My idea was to use silicone to create my own "feet".
The idea is to cut feet shaped holes into thin foam, the kind you would use for scrapbooking, stick the foam onto the bottom of the gemini, fill the cut out holes with a thin layer of silicone (should be neutral curing silicone, not the type that causes a vinegar smell when curing), then remove the foam molds and let it cure.
Since I haven't physically held a Gemini PDA in my hands yet I still don't know where the rear feet underneath the LCD need to be so that the device doesn't tilt backwards. Possibly the rubber feet will need to be on the metal hinge itself, which would make things a bit more complicated.
Silicone shouldn't stick that well, so I expect to loose a foot now and then and I hope that it will be easily removable without damaging the devices case.
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I expect to receive my unit soon.
My idea was to use silicone to create my own "feet".
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Silicone shouldn't stick that well, so I expect to loose a foot now and then and I hope that it will be easily removable without damaging the devices case.
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Or just get wide enough grip tape to cover the entire bottom plate. That's what I plan to do with mine since cases that allow you to keep using it are pretty much impossible with this sort of device.
Oh, how nasty I can't imagine this will ever come off again
If you want to make feet, you guys should really check out Sugru! It's amazing stuff. It makes for a great present too. They should just about give me a commission, haha
https://sugru.com
I had a leftover woven carbon fiber sticky sheet that I cut to size and put on the bottom metal plate. Protects and looks good.