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[Q] How to make charging quick?

Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?

AFAIK, no.

chasmodo said:
AFAIK, no.
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Thanks for immediate reply.. Am planning to search for higher rating charger ( I mean amp rating) will it make sense? Actually I discussed with xda mates earlier about this sometime ago but not in detailed. So am still in search for answer..
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With higher amp, battery would wear out faster than normal.
Best way to charge faster is to never let battery drop down below 30% - 40%.
This would also extend battery life.

Higher ampere charger will force and stretch your battery. It will work but shorten battery lifetime. You don't mind buying spare battery, right?

kopitalk said:
Higher ampere charger will force and stretch your battery. It will work but shorten battery lifetime. You don't mind buying spare battery, right?
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Yes I don't care.. Cause sometimes I get less duration to charge my phone, so I don't care for battery lifetime but I do care the charge holding time/day..
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chasmodo said:
AFAIK, no.
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This may or may not be related to op's question, but I've been wondering, does the "Enable USB Fastcharge" option available in some of the AOKP-based roms actually work?

The fastest way to make charging quick is to have a fully charged spare battery with you. Then the Note is charged in 20 seconds.
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Zamboney said:
The fastest way to make charging quick is to have a fully charged spare battery with you. Then the Note is charged in 20 seconds.
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FYI a handset cannot be charged... Only a battery.. here topic is about charging a battery..
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priyanv said:
Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?
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id be very interested in this too as my old htc had a 1.5A charger and a 1250mah battery, the note has a 2500mah battery and only a 1A charger

The note is most likely limited to a maximum charge rate of 800-900ma as the stock chargers only 1000ma
I have a 2100ma usb charger on the way, and with "battery monitor widget pro", it should give me some idea of the maximum charge rate.
http://www.i-luv-uk.co.uk/iAD517BS.html
John.

No, after all, the phone will limit

panyan said:
id be very interested in this too as my old htc had a 1.5A charger
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Did you try using with note???
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x0952060001 said:
No, after all, the phone will limit
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What is limiting??? Is that kernel?
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But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
The note is most likely limited to a maximum charge rate of 800-900ma as the stock chargers only 1000ma
I have a 2100ma usb charger on the way, and with "battery monitor widget pro", it should give me some idea of the maximum charge rate.
http://www.i-luv-uk.co.uk/iAD517BS.html
John.
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Wow that one is awesome.. Pls keep updating here about the performance. You made my search easy I can get it here also.. Thanks.
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AC DC said:
But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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Definitely.. Only those who doesn't care about life but care about charge duration can go for this..
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Simply not a good idea.
The microUSB contacts are rated at 1A max, so any modification to the charge controller to allow charging currents greater than the contact ratings can result in a damaged connector and then your Note will become largely useless.
I understand everyone wants to play and muck about with their Note, but this falls into the category of "A real bad idea" so be warned.
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Do we have any kernel mod or something for making charge quick than normal?
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According to batteryuniversity.com , lin-on/poly battery`s should be charged at between 0.5 and 1C , the Note has a 2.4amp battery , so you could charge it with a 2.4amp, though as i have already mentioned the note is most likely limited to between 800-900mah charge rate.
The good thing about having a powerful charger, is that it will barely get warm, and the components inside will give a much cleaner output, than a low power one, signs of a struggling power supply can be, getting very hot, flickering on the phone that`s being charged`s screen as the power/voltage is fluctuating, also a high pitched noise.
John.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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But more amp charger could probably damage battery life
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and how long does it take you to charge full from 1%?
When I use 1A charger from HTC it takes me +- 5 hours to full....
With charger from Ipad it takes 1,5 hour
So maybe my battery is dead already???

[Q] Xperia Z hard to charge?

I'm running PAC rom not undervolted or anything and I realised it takes very long for the Xperia Z to charge itself. I went to take a nap at 4pm and woke up around 6.30, battery was 21% and I managed to only get it to 77% when I wake up. When I open Whatsapp or do some stuff on the phone while its charging, the battery percentage will go down instead of up. I'm using AC to charge and have tried the "Fast-Charge" mode on my motherboard which ups the current to 1.5A but the battery will still go down when charging. I'm not using the original Sony cable though, I'm using the one that came with the Galaxy S3 but I dont think the cable makes that much of an impact on charging the phone. Are any one of you experiencing this? How do I fix it?

On dock, it takes me i think less than two hours for a full charge (charge when I have between 5%-15% left).
Have you been on Doomlords kernel thread?
He links to an interesting warning from "Entropy512" in the OP post:
Here
I'm just a humble useless human being. I don't know jack **** about this, but I'm still guessing that you need a modified kernel maybe?

So do you think that the problem lies with my battery?

sebastianlow said:
So do you think that the problem lies with my battery?
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No the rom.
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I think it should caused by your rom, you should flash another one, i suggest you use official rom

I'm trying Xperia Revolution with DoomKernel now, I'll see how it goes. Under-volted btw.

Reverted back to a stock based ROM and charging seems much better now, thanks for the advice!

sebastianlow said:
Reverted back to a stock based ROM and charging seems much better now, thanks for the advice!
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Actually the cable makes a big difference as well. I am using an.htc cable and I get same problem as you. As soon as im using original cable the problem is gone.
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olafs93 said:
Actually the cable makes a big difference as well. I am using an.htc cable and I get same problem as you. As soon as im using original cable the problem is gone.
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the biggest difference IMHO is the transformator's amper output. I have an ipad4 and his current is 3A (!!) and when im charging my XZ with that transformator - charge time x3 faster. (around 1h for 100% batt.)

eviatar said:
the biggest difference IMHO is the transformator's amper output. I have an ipad4 and his current is 3A (!!) and when im charging my XZ with that transformator - charge time x3 faster. (around 1h for 100% batt.)
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Agree to that, but also the cable. Well at least for me it makes big difference if I use different cable to the one supplied.
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eviatar said:
the biggest difference IMHO is the transformator's amper output. I have an ipad4 and his current is 3A (!!) and when im charging my XZ with that transformator - charge time x3 faster. (around 1h for 100% batt.)
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Doesn't sound very healthy

S+ Battery for I9000

Hi i have a question a friend give me the battery from his not working galaxy s+ (1650mah) can i use that one with my normal "S" ? I think i can get a bit more battery life because of 150 more capazity.
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Hi!
I think the difference is only the capacity...so the battery should work in the "normal" S!

Battery work normal, i have almost 10 months battery from S+ in my SGS

is there some advantage because of the 150mAh more capacity??? is the online-time really a little longer???

freakymod2120 said:
is there some advantage because of the 150mAh more capacity??? is the online-time really a little longer???
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I get the battery next week. Then i can answer the question
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Rokostar said:
I get the battery next week. Then i can answer the question
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That would be perfect , thank you!
I think about to change my battery, too ...

Edit: nevermind. Turns out it Wasnt really a 2900mha battery

yeah it is clear that it is not a 2900mAh battery, but i`m interested if there is an advantage because of 150mAh ...
Sure 2900mAh would give more time without loading ...
Are you satisfied with your 2900mAh ??? How long is the standby-time etc.
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Edit: nevermind. Turns out it Wasnt really a 2900mha battery
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So guys i dont see a big difference maybe more or less 15 min screen on time. But the battery from the S+ is also 1 year old.
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Oh wow i thought it would be a little bit more ...okay it`s only 150mAh, not to expect any miracles ...:good:
Thx for Info ...
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So guys i dont see a big difference maybe more or less 15 min screen on time. But the battery from the S+ is also 1 year old.
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freakymod2120 said:
yeah it is clear that it is not a 2900mAh battery, but i`m interested if there is an advantage because of 150mAh ...
Sure 2900mAh would give more time without loading ...
Are you satisfied with your 2900mAh ??? How long is the standby-time etc.
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No i toughed i found a normal size 2900 mha battery but it was a fake one. I do have a 3500 mAh battery which comes with an extra big battery cover because it is thicker than the stock battery, and i am very happy with it! I dont always use it, but it is very useful sometimes, like when going to a festival for a weekend, or when you are on vacation and need to travel a long time.
Also, now my stock battery is almost dead, and i ordered a new 2350 mAh battery which is as big as the stock battery (so no need for thicker battery cover). In three weeks he will arrive and i can tell if it works good.
Btw. I always order these stuff on dealextreme.com. its really cheap and it is really reliable/safe. Only downside is that it has very long delivery time (depends on where you live, mostly around two weeks or more).
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rickvrolings said:
No i toughed i found a normal size 2900 mha battery but it was a fake one. I do have a 3500 mAh battery which comes with an extra big battery cover because it is thicker than the stock battery, and i am very happy with it! I dont always use it, but it is very useful sometimes, like when going to a festival for a weekend, or when you are on vacation and need to travel a long time.
Also, now my stock battery is almost dead, and i ordered a new 2350 mAh battery which is as big as the stock battery (so no need for thicker battery cover). In three weeks he will arrive and i can tell if it works good.
Btw. I always order these stuff on dealextreme.com. its really cheap and it is really reliable/safe. Only downside is that it has very long delivery time (depends on where you live, mostly around two weeks or more).
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Nice a stock size 2350mAh battery i need that too
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yeah a battery with 2350mAh sounds very good ...
That would be great, if you can tell us how it works ...
And with "dealextreme.com" you are satisfied/happy ...???
i`m interest to know how the battery works ...in charging time ,too :good:
rickvrolings said:
No i toughed i found a normal size 2900 mha battery but it was a fake one. I do have a 3500 mAh battery which comes with an extra big battery cover because it is thicker than the stock battery, and i am very happy with it! I dont always use it, but it is very useful sometimes, like when going to a festival for a weekend, or when you are on vacation and need to travel a long time.
Also, now my stock battery is almost dead, and i ordered a new 2350 mAh battery which is as big as the stock battery (so no need for thicker battery cover). In three weeks he will arrive and i can tell if it works good.
Btw. I always order these stuff on dealextreme.com. its really cheap and it is really reliable/safe. Only downside is that it has very long delivery time (depends on where you live, mostly around two weeks or more).
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rickvrolings said:
No i toughed i found a normal size 2900 mha battery but it was a fake one. I do have a 3500 mAh battery which comes with an extra big battery cover because it is thicker than the stock battery, and i am very happy with it! I dont always use it, but it is very useful sometimes, like when going to a festival for a weekend, or when you are on vacation and need to travel a long time.
Also, now my stock battery is almost dead, and i ordered a new 2350 mAh battery which is as big as the stock battery (so no need for thicker battery cover). In three weeks he will arrive and i can tell if it works good.
Btw. I always order these stuff on dealextreme.com. its really cheap and it is really reliable/safe. Only downside is that it has very long delivery time (depends on where you live, mostly around two weeks or more).
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How much for these battery
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Where the best place for buying this battery, mine Góes to Hell
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Rokostar bought from dealextreme.com
kidnapf1 said:
Where the best place for buying this battery, mine Góes to Hell
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I dont know where to get this batterys but i belive from dealextreme. I use the 1650mAh battery from a Friend because its battery life is ok for me. You can look on Amazon too there are batterys with more mAh too. Hope i can hep.
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Here is a Link to Dealextreme and the battery you want.
http://dx.com/p/replacement-3-7v-2430mah-battery-for-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-golden-136387
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Polarcell
A few months ago I've puchased a Polarcell (1850 mAh) via eBay for € 12,60 for my i9000. Same size as standard battery. German quality in stead of Chinese garbage. About 30 percent more batterytime in my case

juliatan said:
A few months ago I've puchased a Polarcell (1850 mAh) via eBay for € 12,60 for my i9000. Same size as standard battery. German quality in stead of Chinese garbage. About 30 percent more batterytime in my case
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How many month ? In amazon there is the same but with 1800mAh The people there say that its good if its new and lose his power in a short time period
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[Q] does higher mAh harm the battery?

the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?

NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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mAh tell you about the capacity of the battery. You can even use 1 million mAh.
..and no it won't harm the phone

It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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crohit911 said:
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.

crohit911 said:
It does reduce the battery life. Or at least have a little impact on it.
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what exactly impacts the battery ? how a 1500mAh charger doesnt harm it and a 2100 does while its a 3000mah?

NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine

The discharge rate.
I might be wrong though cause I didn't read properly.
But voltage does have some impact.

choihan06 said:
no it won't
it will just charge your phone slightly faster,
if there's more than 2000 input then the phone will put a limit on it. so it should be fine
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why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?

NiM72NiK said:
why 2000? what wrong with 2500mAh??!! I think 3000should be the limitation because more than that is going to harm it! isnt it right?
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Well the phone is designed that way, i mean sony engineers should be smarter than us so i assume its a best option.
When i use 2.0A galaxy note3 charger on my z1 it takes about 1500-1700mah but no more than 1700.
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I use a 12000mAh portable charger from New Trent and my phone battery is in perfect shape. It does not harm it in any way. I don't understand where the confusion is coming from.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-iCarrier-Smartphones-Micro-USB/dp/B003ZBZ64Q
mAh is a capacity measure , the bigger the capacity the more times you can charge the phone on a single charge (and usually also the bigger and more expensive the battery)
It's the Amperes which are Voltage/ sec given to your phone that you should worry about. Pretty much all portable chargers are suited to mobile phones and should not cause any harm.

I thought you were talking about travel adapter charger..
Yes current provided and voltage matters.
Silly me I was confused between mah and Amperes..
Thanks man!
But I think he's refering to amperes. Cause the one provided with z1 is 1.5 amp. And the portable battery is 5 ah. So he bought a 2.1 ampere charger.

NiM72NiK said:
the attached charger with z1 is a 1500mAh charger and i bought a 2100mAh charger which charges faster for sure.I wanna know does this harm the battery?i mean if it was ok why the sony didnt attached a 2100mAh or higher with its flagship!?
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There seem to be quite alot of confusion here. I am sure you mean the output of the charger, but if you mean the capacity of a portable charger, then it doesn't matter if it is 1000mAh or 1000,000mAh. But if you mean the output of the charger, then we don't really have a clear answer as this was asked few times in the forum, but I will try to explain the conclusion we came to.
our phone is supposed to support quick charge 2.0 which means in theory, we can use chargers with ~4.0 A (if I remembered correctly). why sony used 1.5 A is not clear, but I don't think using 2.0 A would have any effect except slightly faster charging time. I have been using my SGS4 charger (with 2.0 A output) since I got my Z1 (since release date). Last time I looked for even more powerful chargers ~3 months ago, I found that chargers with 4.0 A output has not been released yet and will be released early 2014. When they are released, i will contact sony and see if I can use it with my Z1 as in theory this should mean half charging time. I hope this helps

it won't harm the battery

The higher mAh rating might not have a direct affect on your phone... But what you said that the battery charges faster is a cause of concern. Do check the output of the charger you got with the battery. If the current rating is higher than your stock charger then maybe you're phone circuits may have problems.
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shem2409 said:
Battery life has nothing to to with the capacity of the portable battery? What are you talking about.
Every charging reduces the battery life. That's why it is recommended to only charge the phone when it is at 10-20% and try to charge it to full.
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Its the other way around, avoid going down to ~10% and try to keep it above 50%
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The higher charger will increase HEAT and heating is the battery most bigger enemy .. Thats it.
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I'm sure he meant the charge rate of the charger.
Maybe it won't affect at all since the charge current rate is set by the battery chip, not by the charger. What the charger label says is the max output current, not necessarily the actual rate.
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Higher current may hurt abit, higher voltage hurts more

Been using the blackberry rapid charger but not overcharging the phone and its been fine, been using it for years. FYI, chargers are measured in volts and amps. The bb one is 2amp and 5 volts.
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You cannot judge or decide anything, except you know what electronic part used by that phone which have specific normal rating and resist maximum ampere. So, everything you do with your charger is Gambling!! But, I suggest not too much the different
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1am or 850 mam charger?

Hello guys i wanna buy a charger for my sp because its own had been lost. And wanna know which one is better? Z style 1 Amper charger or 850 mAmp like what was in the box?
Is 1 amper chqrger harmful for the battery life?
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MH-Droid said:
Hello guys i wanna buy a charger for my sp because its own had been lost. And wanna know which one is better? Z style 1 Amper charger or 850 mAmp like what was in the box?
Is 1 amper chqrger harmful for the battery life?
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No, it is not harmful and battery will charge faster with 1A charger.

le grande magnetto said:
No, it is not harmful and battery will charge faster with 1A charger.
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Ok so i will buy xz charger..
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MH-Droid said:
Ok so i will buy xz charger..
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But you battery life will decrease...

Silver Wx said:
But you battery life will decrease...
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and what decrease are you talking about?

Slow charging is better for a battery's health - but I wouldn't worry too much about it (especially 850 vs 1000, not much difference there, 500/1000 maybe). Also these are big batteries they can take the higher current.
I think these batteries are good for 500 charge cycles, at which point they start to not perform as well, but even in this state they usually remain very reliable. I've had a li-ion battery for four years that seems as good as the day I bought it.
These batteries work with chemistry though - so there are always environmental differences between users and people do different things with their phones, I think this accounts for some people saying battery life is great, when others say bad.

i use a 2amp charger and i cannot say that the batterylife was shorten. i am using this charger for 6 months with no change in battery life. the only out of the ordinary thing is the battery heats up when charging. like when you play a 3d game.