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I'm disgusted...

I don't want to sit here and ***** but I need to let some of this off my chest.
My gf bought me a brand new diamond from the Europe (no proof of purchase).
Now I'm not totally concerned with the battery life, speaker volume, in-call volume, etc as I know tweaks will show up for this phone slowly slowly.
My main concern that is KILLING me and I'm afraid I can't do anything about it is my screen. Its crystal clear, but I seem to have two spots at the bottom of the screen that turn yellowish on a white screen and whitish on a black screen?
Is it safe to assume I got a faulty unit and I'm pretty much stuck with it?
I'm honestly extremely furious with this, and they are not that visible unless im on certain screens but knowing that they exist simply kills me.
I have attached a picture which should give you a decent example of how it looks. Its not that visible with this shot. One blotch right above the HTC logo and the other to the very left of that.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/burns959/SPM_A0027.jpg

Call HTC service/support they should do an in warranty repair. There is no need for proof of purchase because they can just warranty it off the build date. I had to do this with one of my Tilts, did not have a receipt but they repaired it under warranty for free based off the build date. It did take 2 weeks for the whole process though.
Jeff

HI,
The battery life and other tweaks are already around and they have a made a massive difference to my diamond. (latest UK rom and a few tweaks)
You should not be stuck with it... have you called HTC ? how come you have no proof of purchase ? Even so you should still be able to contact HTC give them the serial number and be able to send it back. You may have to wait while it is fixed but hey its worth it.
The only other option is to buy a new screen (about £70) and fit yourself.
I can see how it would bug you just knowing the screen issue is there, but i am sure you are not the only person to have a fault, these things do happen.
I would be interested to hear what HTC have to say.

Vector-SS said:
I don't want to sit here and ***** but I need to let some of this off my chest.
My gf bought me a brand new diamond from the Europe (no proof of purchase).
Now I'm not totally concerned with the battery life, speaker volume, in-call volume, etc as I know tweaks will show up for this phone slowly slowly.
My main concern that is KILLING me and I'm afraid I can't do anything about it is my screen. Its crystal clear, but I seem to have two spots at the bottom of the screen that turn yellowish on a white screen and whitish on a black screen?
Is it safe to assume I got a faulty unit and I'm pretty much stuck with it?
I'm honestly extremely furious with this, and they are not that visible unless im on certain screens but knowing that they exist simply kills me.
I have attached a picture which should give you a decent example of how it looks. Its not that visible with this shot. One blotch right above the HTC logo and the other to the very left of that.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/burns959/SPM_A0027.jpg
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Since youve got this device early in its life (WAAAAAAAY under a year) get in contact with HTC and they will probably just ask for the serial number from under the cover.
I returned my TyTN after around 2 months to get the screen alignment issue fixed, they didnt ask for proof of purchase even though I had it etc....so wasnt a problem.
Had this been a year later then it might be a different story
Get onto HTC about it....and be calm with them remember this sort of thing always happens with consumer electronics it is nothing personal.

No it's not very visible!
Do you need proof of purchase for a repair? It's not like it could be out of it's warranty. If you do then contact the retailer or get a bank statement.
You're not alone though. I have a small guy inside mine waving a torch at me just above the home key. He's a little sh*t, but I'm the bigger person so choose to ignore him.

I have to agree with these guys. I'm on my 3rd or 4th HTC product and I'm here to tell you that their service is SECOND TO NONE.
They are one of the few companies if you call their customer service, they actually answer the phone, speak english and resolve your problem without putting you on hold.
Call them, you shouldn't have any issues.
Mark

Wow, I already feel so much better. I mean i was so hyped up with the VGA screen with this phone but it did let me down. I hope HTC acknowledge this problem and fix it for me.
I had initially contacted HTC America for repairs and they told me to call Europe. I did but they were closed. I sent out an email to HTC europe and I'm waiting for a response. Maybe it's better if I pick up the phone and call them in person?
I will report tomorrow if anything happens in regards to this topic.

UPDATE:
I contacted HTC America and told them about my problem, and to my surprise they were extremely helpful thus far and are taking my phone in for repair.
They asked where the phone was purchased and I told them, but did not ask for a proof of purchase.
I will be sending it out tomorrow and hopefully receive it back in 2 weeks time maximum. After that, let the modding begin
+1 for HTC support - really great service.
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Forgot to mention; First person I talked to was not able to help me out and told me to contact HTC Europe. Hung up the phone and called again and I went right through

Vector-SS said:
UPDATE:
Forgot to mention; First person I talked to was not able to help me out and told me to contact HTC Europe. Hung up the phone and called again and I went right through
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some muppets do occasionally escape form jim hensons workshop!

Had to send mine in for repair due to the earpiece speaker had an annoying buzz at medium to high levels. Called HTC UK, told them the problem, they said they can repair it no problem, they sent an UPS delivery driver to collect my phone from my house. They received it next day.
Took about 10 days in repair but came back today well packed in a small box, gave it a good test and it now works perfectly .
When I received it back they left the test rom, radio and boot screen on it and wiped the internal storage. Made a backup before I sent it though .
First repair I have sent to HTC as usually all my HTC phones I have are through Orange UK and if I have any faults, they send out a replacement handset in less than 24hrs to the door, driver gives me new phone and I give them the faulty one .
For excellent customer service I give HTC a 10 out of 10

So maybe I should wait a couple more weeks before I send it in. Then there is a possibility of a replacement with a working US 3G version

Am I completely screwed?

So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?

If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.

I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.

HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.

I've had good experiences with HTC.
SpugDarktyde said:
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric

Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.

Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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landwomble said:
This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.

the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser

Square Trade
After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.

I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
jahrami said:
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?

There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.

As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.

Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.

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Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.

KyleK29 said:
No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy

congratulations
Richie V6 said:
The touch pro is very sexy
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Faulty Kaiser, Problems with HTC repair centre UK

Hi all, I have had my kaiser since july 2008. in october i opened the slide mechanism and one of the keys must have came off into the slide mechanism and the phone keyboard wouldnt shut properly (you could see where the key came off that it had not been properly glued down so this was a manufacturing fault)
About a week before this the phone usb port developed a fault. Sometimes it would not charge when plugged in but most the time it did so i planned to send the phone off for repair anyway.I sent this off about a week later towards the end of october.
I sent it off to the UK repair centre at milton keynes. I waited around a week and then i received an email saying it was not covered by the warranty, and was being charged £35 for the repair which they called part plastic refurbishment. As i did not force the keyboard slider or cause the fault on the charging port i refused to pay this and spoke to somebody in the uk offices to why i was even being charged this amount for something which was not my fault.
He emailed me around a week later explaining that the charge was for the black plastic which surrounds the middle of the phone as it had a deep scratch on it near one of the corners( which was only a scratch no cracks etc and hardly noticeable unless you really looked for it they sent me a photo blown up about 100000 times so i could see it) and could not be fixed without replacing this.
I refused to pay it so they sent me the handset back the middle of december. When i received it back suprisingly the slide mechanism had been fixed the button was still the same, the charge fault was still there plus it had a new fault, When i inserted my SIM card and switched my phone on it told me "the sim is missing" i tried 4 more sim cards (new and used) and it still had the same message.
I phoned up the HTC customer services the same day i received this back to tell them of this fault plus i told them that the slider had been repaired but not the usb or the keyboard they told me to send this back. I sent this back 10 days ago due to the christmas period. I have received an invoice today asking me to pay for the part plastic refurbishment again at a cost of £35 with no mention of the USB, Keyboard or the SIM fault. It just seems to me when you call the call centre its just full of drones who follow a script as i have explained the faults on more than one occasion. Since i have bought this phone HTC has had it in repair more than i have had use out of it. If anyone could give me any suggestions contact numbers email addresses , Advice on where i stand legally on this i would very much appreciate this.
Thanks in advance

the picture HTC sent me
here is the picture that htc sent me

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here is the picture that htc sent me
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To be perfectly honest, your phone looks like it has been dropped quite hard on that corner - there is casing damage to the upper half (circled chip) and also a few chips out of the adjacent part of the bottom half. To get those parts to chip like that would take quite a bang. My Kaiser is over a year old and has been dropped loads of times onto hard surfaces (inculding gravel and concrete) and nothind has chipped like that.
Good luck with getting the repairs done. I guess the best approach will be to be a pain in the arse with them - always ask to speak to someone senior - rehearse and learn the UK consumer rights and quote them to HTC reps (but don't get stroppy on the phone). If they say someone will call back, wait until 1 minute after the specified time then call to complain that they didn't etc, etc. I did this with a Hermes (which I'd broken myself) and in the end they gave me a new one to shut me up.

Warranty Exchange, Be Careful!

I took my Tilt into a walk in Warranty Exchange location in the Atlanta area and had a very BAD encounter.
My phone would hang at the AT&T screen. They took my info and said have a seat. He came out and ask me if I charged my battery over night, I said yes. He then told me that charging the battery over night had damaged my battery and I would have to buy a new one for $47. I got very upset and challenged him to show me in the users manual where it stated that, he could not.
I protested until he returned my old [perfectly good] battery to me and swapped out my phone.
I took the new phone to my car and made a call to check it out. The sound had a bad buzz in so I went back inside and ask for another phone.
He took the phone and some how brought up a screen with thin lines all across it and said "You have cracked the screen in two places, you will have to pay for this phone." I went ballistic because I knew he had given me a phone with a cracked screen. The cracks are not detectable unless you bring up the screen with thin lines.
I borrowed a phone and dialed 911 and had the police come. I had several witnesses that I only had the phone for 5 minutes and had not dropped it.
They gave me another phone to keep me from filing fraud charges against them.
Bottom line:
1. When you bring a phone in for exchange, make them check it in front of you for screen cracks and water damage.
2. Put your name on your battery so they can not change it with a bad one.
3. Check for screen cracks, water damage, and other physical damage(USB plug) on the new phone in front of them.

wow thats messed up. You should of taken the guys name down and called it in to At&t.
I had to warranty exchange my device for a broken ExtUSB plug and it was a hassle free expereince. Guy looked at my phone,asked me if i needed to back anything up, was walking out with a brand new device in 15-20 min.
I would definately call and file a complaint against the guy. Even threat to report them to the Better Business Bureua if theres one in your area.

I agree with being careful, but I have to say
I have had the same experience as fone_fanatic. I'm in Atlanta as well, and have used one of the walk in centers near my work three times in the last year. Once for my Tilt, (because I broke the mini usb with the stylus) and twice for my wife swapping out RAZRs. They've always been very good guys to deal with. I expected trouble about the usb port, but there wasn't any. I told them it wouldn't charge, and they came back in a few minutes with a "new" Tilt. I even did the "debloating" of the ROM at the counter in front of him.
When my wife complained that she didn't want a third RAZR, the tech said he could only exchange for the same phone, but told her to call the 800 number, and told her what to say to the phone support people to get another model, so now she has a shine.
Anyway, I'm sorry you had an A-hole, but I think most of the techs ther are decent people.

I had the USB plug issue, which actually will ALWAYS happen eventually, due tot he HTC port not being standard. Good news though, 2 returns of a tilt and they [warranty] gave me a free fuze, which, although having the SAME port as the tilt, comes with a dongle from HTC that has a standard port on one end, an HTC port on one end, and a mic port also, pretty nifty.

[Q] phones4u exchange problem

ok so i purchased my first htc one as a sim free device from a phones4u store in the uk. On opening the box when i got home i found that the phone had been used already and also suffered from poor build issues, phoned the store up and they agreed to get another one sent to my local store as no other stores in the area seemed to have them.
Second device arrived all sealed which was great and did not seem to suffer any build/gap issues but after a few days it has now developed an issue with static sound through the ear piece when on calls and also has the issue of intermittent back and home keys having a lack of sensitivity and also on ocassions the buttons fail to illuminate....so having had this one for around 6 days i got back in touch with phones4u to arrange another exchange.
They have now told me that they no longer have any stock of the handset and do not know at this point when they might get any and so have either offered me a full refund or exchange for another handset of same value etc.
Can they really not have any stock? or are they now not releasing anymore untill the issues have been resolved?
Bit in a quandry as to what to do as they have given me 7 days to decide what i want to do. Really would like to keep the htc one as nothing else out there takes my fancy (tried xperia z and the z10) but even if i take the refund there nowhere else to get another one as it seems to be the same issue eveyrwhere with stock (carphone warehouse stores etc).
What are the chances of htc releasing a software update for the proximity sensor issue (which is what i believe i have) quite soon? Should i just hang onto the one i have (build quality seems ok) or get out now and get my money back while i can?
Mine is version HT339W

I have same problem with my first HTC One from Phone 4U, same look like was used before and have small gap on the top alloy body and white plastic around edge . They replace online and never want give me full refund.

Can you describe the static call problem a bit more is it anything like the problem I'm experiencing? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40081399#post40081399

I have no such problems, take it back.
If they can't offer you a replacement then i think they should give you a full refund.

Get a full refund and goto CPW. . . the batch that i got from there i know a few other people had, absolutely perfect builds. . . mind you, that was nearly 2 weeks ago now.