I've been rooted on my kfhd7 for a month now and have been using launcher ex on it. all has been good other than a few settings not working, and recently, the kindle has become laggy. mostly noticeable when using the sphere interface on the home screen.
thinking about following the 2nd bootloader procedure and flashing a custom rom. I'm on version 7.3.0.
what are the pros and cons for this?
thanks
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It depends on the ROM that you are going to flash, and how you use your Kindle currently.
If you use Amazon services a lot, then I'd suggest flashing Kinology. This is similar to the setup you have now, where you customize everything via a launcher, and if you want to go back to Amazon services you can do this via a stock launcher shortcut. You do get better battery life and performance with the device and Play Store apps in Kinology. However you may have some issues with Prime videos (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
If you don't really use Amazon services, then feel free to flash any of the ROMs based off of Hashcode's build. This basically makes your device a whole new Android tablet. All built in Amazon stuff is gone, but you can still get some off them back via Amazon's apps in the Play Store. In my opinion though, you don't get the same experience than you do with the built in features that is on stock and Kinology. Everything is way smoother in terms of performance and battery life overall (better than Kinology too in some areas), but there are still some bugs being worked on (i.e HDMI, Camera, Headphone volumes, etc).
In general, here are some of the pros and cons of flashing a custom ROM:
Pros:
Better battery life
Better performance
More customization
Google Play apps work better
Cons:
Warranty voided (you can always flash back to stock to get it back. If you hard bricked your device though, you might be out of luck)
You lose access to Amazon features on the Kindle (with Kinology you still have some (if not all) of these features)
Deal breaker for me is no text to speech in kindle app on cm10.1
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It depends on the ROM that you are going to flash, and how you use your Kindle currently.
If you use Amazon services a lot, then I'd suggest flashing Kinology. This is similar to the setup you have now, where you customize everything via a launcher, and if you want to go back to Amazon services you can do this via a stock launcher shortcut. You do get better battery life and performance with the device and Play Store apps in Kinology. However you may have some issues with Prime videos (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
If you don't really use Amazon services, then feel free to flash any of the ROMs based off of Hashcode's build. This basically makes your device a whole new Android tablet. All built in Amazon stuff is gone, but you can still get some off them back via Amazon's apps in the Play Store. In my opinion though, you don't get the same experience than you do with the built in features that is on stock and Kinology. Everything is way smoother in terms of performance and battery life overall (better than Kinology too in some areas), but there are still some bugs being worked on (i.e HDMI, Camera, Headphone volumes, etc).
In general, here are some of the pros and cons of flashing a custom ROM:
Pros:
Better battery life
Better performance
More customization
Google Play apps work better
Cons:
Warranty voided (you can always flash back to stock to get it back. If you hard bricked your device though, you might be out of luck)
You lose access to Amazon features on the Kindle (with Kinology you still have some (if not all) of these features)
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thanks a lot for the reply. I rarely use amazon at all. Only thing I use it for is shopping and the free daily app so will have a think about what to use.
have taken a look at the bootloader and having issues recognising the device when typing fastboot so will wait for an answer to this before I go any further
thanks again
rhodri11 said:
thanks a lot for the reply. I rarely use amazon at all. Only thing I use it for is shopping and the free daily app so will have a think about what to use.
have taken a look at the bootloader and having issues recognising the device when typing fastboot so will wait for an answer to this before I go any further
thanks again
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You really need a factory cable to be safe. They are really easy to make if you know how to use a soldering gun. Or you can find them fairly cheap onlone i think amazon has one for 3 dollars. But if you want to try anyway you can use root toolbox lite and use the rebooter option to reboot bootloader. This will put you into fastboot.
Here's a copy of root toolbox lite http://db.tt/KNehlyNf.
I would highly recommend putting what rom you want on your sdcard before installing second bootloader. This way if you cant boot the system only recovery you will have something to flash. Also would highly recommend the factory cable before doing any flashing or installing recovery. You just don't know what will happen. Hope this helps.
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You really need a factory cable to be safe. They are really easy to make if you know how to use a soldering gun. Or you can find them fairly cheap onlone i think amazon has one for 3 dollars. But if you want to try anyway you can use root toolbox lite and use the rebooter option to reboot bootloader. This will put you into fastboot.
Here's a copy of root toolbox lite http://db.tt/KNehlyNf.
I would highly recommend putting what rom you want on your sdcard before installing second bootloader. This way if you cant boot the system only recovery you will have something to flash. Also would highly recommend the factory cable before doing any flashing or installing recovery. You just don't know what will happen. Hope this helps.
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great. i have already got toolbox lite so may give it a go. if it goes wrong i can always buy the factory cable from amazon ( I am very impatient when it comes to thing like this!)
so assuming root toolbox lite works and puts me into fastboot. will then follows the instructions and will be sure to put the rom on the sdcard beforehand.
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great. i have already got toolbox lite so may give it a go. if it goes wrong i can always buy the factory cable from amazon ( I am very impatient when it comes to thing like this!)
so assuming root toolbox lite works and puts me into fastboot. will then follows the instructions and will be sure to put the rom on the sdcard beforehand.
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I always put my rom on first. Ive had to restore my kindle more than once and almost every time i can only boot into recovery after installing recovery. The directions are easy for installing recovery. My factory cable has saved my ass plenty of times highly recommend getting one.
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I always put my rom on first. Ive had to restore my kindle more than once and almost every time i can only boot into recovery after installing recovery. The directions are easy for installing recovery. My factory cable has saved my ass plenty of times highly recommend getting one.
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okay, so I have started following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
I am on step 2 and have just finished doing the backups on my kindle.
I have also downloaded freedom-boot.img and TWRP recovery.img.
Next step is is saying to download FireFlash v1.1.
I was of the understanding Fireflash doesnt work with my kindle (using 7.3.0) and that I would have to carry out the bootloader procedure through fastboot etc?
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okay, so I have started following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
I am on step 2 and have just finished doing the backups on my kindle.
I have also downloaded freedom-boot.img and TWRP recovery.img.
Next step is is saying to download FireFlash v1.1.
I was of the understanding Fireflash doesnt work with my kindle (using 7.3.0) and that I would have to carry out the bootloader procedure through fastboot etc?
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I havnt used the automatic tool for installing recovery i used this thread and did it manualy. Here is the original thread on the 2nd bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37472472
Step 2-4 is not needed instead put the rom you want on the sdcard.
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Hinzman420 said:
I havnt used the automatic tool for installing recovery i used this thread and did it manualy. Here is the original thread on the 2nd bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37472472
Step 2-4 is not needed instead put the rom you want on the sdcard.
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Sorry if I am making you repeat things but is there any point me having to boot into fastboot mode if I am going to install and run the Fireflash apk? Still unable to get past the "waiting for device" part on fastboot to test it out. I have downloaded all the necessary files and I am ready to flash
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Sorry if I am making you repeat things but is there any point me having to boot into fastboot mode if I am going to install and run the Fireflash apk? Still unable to get past the "waiting for device" part on fastboot to test it out. I have downloaded all the necessary files and I am ready to flash
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Well personally I don't know anything about the fire flash tool. But in order to get fastboot to recognize your device try going into control panel with the kindle in fast boot and cord plunged into USB on PC. Now go into control panel and go to hardware devices. Now mannualy install the drivers for your kindle. Should be able to recognize it.
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rhodri11 said:
I've been rooted on my kfhd7 for a month now and have been using launcher ex on it. all has been good other than a few settings not working, and recently, //cut//thinking about following the 2nd bootloader procedure and flashing a custom rom. I'm on version 7.3.0. what are the pros and cons for this? thanks Sent from my KFTT using xda app-developers app
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#1. TWRP is a GOOD OPTION FOR YOU: I have to agree with Protomartyr that if you are not tied to Amazon "ecosystem" & you use your KFTT it as a tablet more than an Amazon-content-delivery-machine, then other roms perhaps offer a bit more flexibility. & To get other roms you'll need TWRP.
#2. USE HASHCODE's THREAD TO INSTALL TWRP: My advice is not to use Fireflash or other automated routines like Kindle Fire Firstaide kit to install TWRP. These tools are really great, but this is a tricky and "higher risk" change to your KFTT. It makes better sense to take control of the installation process it yourself. If you do it step by step you will see the results as they unfold; and you will know that they worked --or where/why they did not work. The automated routines don't debug; nor do they appear to have a capability to adjust for individual situations as well as you yourself could. Also, Hashcode's thread on installing a 2d bootloader explains each step and includes comments and the "how-to" for the workaround in loading TWRP when you have Amazon rom 7.3/7.3.1 installed. It is a straightforward process. You probably have seen the thread, but here is the link to it again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128848
#3. USB DRIVERS FOR FASTBOOT & ADB. perhaps the easiest place to find the Fastboot and ADB drivers is on Prokennexusa's Kindle Fire Firstaide Kit thread. He offers two different drivers to chose from and if you can't see your device using a command prompt in Windows then perhaps your drivers are not quite right. Please see his Kindle Fire Firstaide Kit thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888 ) post numbers # 2212, 341 or #119 (alternative driver).
#4. FACTORY CABLE: Regardless of what you're doing now, I recommend either building or buying a Factory Cable (they really should be called "fastboot cables" since that's what it does!) It WILL save your bacon if you are going to do rom flashing or recovery alterations and all that! I've used mine several times in the process of making my KFTT "better" :victory: . XDA user Skorpn makes fine Factory Cables for KFTT 7." I purchased mine from him and it has worked flawlessly more times than I ever expected to need it. Here is a link to one of his posts on the cable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20380015#post20380015 It's post #9 on that thread and he accepts orders via Personal Message (PM) on XDA. Also see post #s 11 & 12 on that thread for more information. Also see post #15 which has a diagram and simple instructions to help if you want to make the Factory cable yourself.
#5. ROMS: KINOLOGY, CYANOGENMOD10.1 (Informal) and (maybe) JELLYBAM. On XDA it appears that for our KFT, our rom choices are: Kinology (a modified Stock rom), and Hashcode's CM 10.1 (an evolving CM10.1). I've tried both and they deliver a nice feeling on the KFTT. Of course Kinology is close to Amazon stock and the HC CM10.1 is still being improved (by Hashcode) to get it to "official" status as a CM device. One more possible option --and I am not sure, but will raise it for you to check out, is Jellybam (4.2.2). I just tried that rom on my phone, and noticed that (among other devices) they appear to have a JellyBam version for the Kindle Fire HD! Now, I did not have time to check it out yesterday, but will when their site maintenance is over and I can again access their KFTT rom. . . Not sure if it is really for our model, since "Kindle Fire HD" is becoming an ambiguous term! But there is potential.
Good Luck!
Thanks! Will have another go tomorrow and let you know how I get on...!
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Good day!
Kindle Fire HD 7 7.2.2 was succesfully rooted through Qemu
After that start the Root Explorer and frozen some programs from Amazon
After Root explorer closed - system wrote that the application is not responding and offered either wait or force close.
Waited about 5 minutes and then forcibly closed.
The tablet is rebooted and it now shows a picture Kindle Fire, which is quickly poured color.
Tell me what to do? Can I fix something back?
Thanks in advance!
I believe that at this point, all you can do is put the tablet in Odin (fastboot) mode and flash a image containing the partitions. You'll have to Google to see if anyone has uploaded genetic partitions for the HD. The problem is that no one has come up with a working boot recovery that most other Android devices have that allow you to run a restore. I've seen several postings of developers working on this.
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I believe that at this point, all you can do is put the tablet in Odin (fastboot) mode and flash a image containing the partitions. You'll have to Google to see if anyone has uploaded genetic partitions for the HD. The problem is that no one has come up with a working boot recovery that most other Android devices have that allow you to run a restore. I've seen several postings of developers working on this.
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I understand that I need a cable factory, similar to Kindle Fire. The manual, which indicates how to make such a cable was told to solder one pin and 4-pin. After that, download the program from the subject http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951254 and take a backup to 7.2.2, as of 7.2.1 is not suitable.
I understand you correctly? And if so, where to take a backup of 7.2.2?
Thanks in advance!
backup 7.2.2
baxxik said:
I understand that I need a cable factory, similar to Kindle Fire. The manual, which indicates how to make such a cable was told to solder one pin and 4-pin. After that, download the program from the subject http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951254 and take a backup to 7.2.2, as of 7.2.1 is not suitable.
I understand you correctly? And if so, where to take a backup of 7.2.2?
Thanks in advance!
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i have backup 7.2.2 for you, copy anh past in images folder and launch SR Tool.bat, chose 1..good luck..:laugh:
http://sdrv.ms/TZ4pOG
Huuthaolove said:
i have backup 7.2.2 for you, copy anh past in images folder and launch SR Tool.bat, chose 1..good luck..:laugh:
http://sdrv.ms/TZ4pOG
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Thank you very much for your help! :good:
Please let us know if you were able to recover your HD with this image. Thanks.
Wat happen to kindle did work
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I'm the living testimonial and last survivor for this bricking journey. I had my device rooted on the second day that I got my KFHD, then bricked it and kept in the kindle fire bootloop for days.
I was a bit sceptical to buy a factory cable initially as I would have to wait for weeks over this part on earth. But after reading all the sources available online and I know this factory cable is unavoidable, I ordered, waited and received my factory cable and guess what, this is just like the immediate antidote given to the sleeping beauty, after I plugged in the factory cable and carefully followed the instructions by the seniors here, I unbricked my KFHD in 10 minutes.
My two-cents advice is, if you are adventurous type and plan to go wild with your KFHD, get your factory cable before anything else, then, you can experiment all the wonderful ideas/ modding here.
Good luck and have fun!
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Did you manage to restore the image? 7.2.2 Me too have this problem
u cant help u
Brannier said:
Did you manage to restore the image? 7.2.2 Me too have this problem
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your kindle had update 7.2.3???, if it's true, i think you will need 7.2.3 system.img image, i cant buckup for you, wait me...:fingers-crossed:
Hi Guys
I have looked at most of thr threads and cant seem to find help on my issue.
I have a Kindle fire hd 7 months old and rooted it 3 weeks ago.All went well till yesterday when I was in Titainium Backup Pro when the screen froze.
I waited a few mins then switched the kindle off.A few mins later I switched it back on and it went through its stuff and came to the Kindle System Recovery screen.2 Options.
1:Reboot your kindle
2:Reset to factory reset.
I tried option 1 several times only to come back to same screen.So I tried option 2 which took a while but it still kept bringing me to the same screen.I have tried everything I can.The computer does not recognise the kindle but ut did before problem.Hope someone out there can assist.Check back later guys.
Trev
You need to put it in fast boot and reflash the system image.
I can provide more detailed instructions, but if u have a fastboot cable I can guarantee it will go I to fast boot compared to the other method that I haven't had any luck with. Read the post I just made on this thread, same stuff goes for you I just don't feel like retyping it or copying and pasting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2366280
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stunts513 said:
You need to put it in fast boot and reflash the system image.
I can provide more detailed instructions, but if u have a fastboot cable I can guarantee it will go I to fast boot compared to the other method that I haven't had any luck with. Read the post I just made on this thread, same stuff goes for you I just don't feel like retyping it or copying and pasting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2366280
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Cheers Stunts.
Think I tried Fast boot but PC didn't recognize the Kindle,but will give it a go.I contacted Amazon about the issue and they have said they will send me a replacement out if I wish,if I send my Kindle back having kept putting it back to Factory settings will they know its been rooted when they check it.
Trev
OK I'm slightly confused, so did u get it into fastboot mode? The screen would say fast boot if you did. And if u got it into fast boot, are u saying the PC didn't pick it up at all or just didn't find any drivers it could install for it? Btw, personally I wouldn't send this in to amazon, just because it is entirely fixable and if you ship it in you lose any data you had. By reflashing the system image it should wipe any of your apps or files on the data and SD card partitions.
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stunts513 said:
OK I'm slightly confused, so did u get it into fastboot mode? The screen would say fast boot if you did. And if u got it into fast boot, are u saying the PC didn't pick it up at all or just didn't find any drivers it could install for it? Btw, personally I wouldn't send this in to amazon, just because it is entirely fixable and if you ship it in you lose any data you had. By reflashing the system image it should wipe any of your apps or files on the data and SD card partitions.
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Hi Stunt.I have tried all ways to get it into Fastboot but no luck.I have followed just about everyones instructions but it keeps coming back to the same screen.Im not bothered about losing my data I can allways load it back on the new one(I wouldn't be rooting that one).I you can think of any way for me I would be greatfull.Allso if I do send it back can they tell its rooted?.cheers Stunt.
Your going to need a fast boot cable then, they are fairly cheap, around 10-15$ unless you decide to make one, but u need a soldering iron, and a wire, that's about it, it is just a solder from pin 4 to v+ on the miniusb plug. Once you plug that into it it will immediately goto fastboot and from their you reflash the system image. Its really easy to do, i had to help my friend over skype do it when somehow he bricked his kindle using fireflash. Wasn't webcamming him to make sure he downgraded the bootloader when he did it...And yes I am pretty sure they can tell its rooted.
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stunts513 said:
Your going to need a fast boot cable then, they are fairly cheap, around 10-15$ unless you decide to make one, but u need a soldering iron, and a wire, that's about it, it is just a solder from pin 4 to v+ on the miniusb plug. Once you plug that into it it will immediately goto fastboot and from their you reflash the system image. Its really easy to do, i had to help my friend over skype do it when somehow he bricked his kindle using fireflash. Wasn't webcamming him to make sure he downgraded the bootloader when he did it...And yes I am pretty sure they can tell its rooted.
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Don't forget to check eBay for fastboot cables too - $4.45 for the one I got. There is also someone on the forums selling them (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20380015#post20380015) if you wish to support one of our members.
You'll know it's fastboot -- just like stunts said -- since it will automatically put your Kindle into that mode as soon as it's connected to the computer. Start with it turned off, plug in the cable, and then watch it go into Fastboot mode. Then you need to flash the system.img according to the instructions on this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951254
Long story short I flashed a 7.2.3 bootloader from hashcodes TWRP thread to my KFHD7 and now it wont turn on at all. I have a factory cable but fastboot and adb can't do anything since the bootloader isn't even loaded yet. I'm sort of nervous to do the USB boot trick because I heard that that trick was designed for an older kindle model. I'm downloading Firekit now but the option I need to fix my kindle requires the USB boot trick so will that trick work on my kindle or not? Also could anyone point me in the right direction to flashing a CORRECT bootloader so this doesent happen a third time? (My kindle's OS is 7.4.3 with OTA disabled)
P.S. The file attached is the bootloader I flashed.
I would not do what you are attempting, the older tricks and utilities are not usually something u mix with the new kindles. When u say factory cable I have to ask do u mean the cable that came with the kindle or a fastboot cable. If its a fastboot cable then when u hook your kindle up to your PC with it it should make the kindle say fastboot on the screen. If it can then u can reflash the 7.2.3 uboot file. That should fix it. If instead your PC picks up an omap440 device then you are in trouble.
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I would not do what you are attempting, the older tricks and utilities are not usually something u mix with the new kindles. When u say factory cable I have to ask do u mean the cable that came with the kindle or a fastboot cable. If its a fastboot cable then when u hook your kindle up to your PC with it it should make the kindle say fastboot on the screen. If it can then u can reflash the 7.2.3 uboot file. That should fix it. If instead your PC picks up an omap440 device then you are in trouble.
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Yes I mean a fastboot cable and I can't flash anything because the kindle wont boot up, the screen wont turn on or anything
Hmm that's bad, year uncould try seeing if the battery would charge. Ur I'm guessing hard brick, I'd wait to see if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm guessing when u flashed this either u didn't check the md5 signature first or u tried flashing the zip file instead of what's in it. Sorry if the second one sounds a bit condescending I just don't know how well you are with pc's. If its hard bricked you could try sending it to amazon, they might replace it. Lookup some tips on the forum for she ding it in because I hard things about telling them its rooted but not that u have flashed it or something, cause technically u void the warranty when u root it but sometimes they are forgiving. Anyways see if some other people respond before sending it in.
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Hmm that's bad, year uncould try seeing if the battery would charge. Ur I'm guessing hard brick, I'd wait to see if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm guessing when u flashed this either u didn't check the md5 signature first or u tried flashing the zip file instead of what's in it. Sorry if the second one sounds a bit co descending I just don't know how well you are with pc's. If its hard bricked you could try sending it to amazon, they might replace it. Lookup some tips on the forum for she ding it in because I hard things about telling them its rooted but not that u have flashed it or something, cause technically u void the warranty when u root it but sometimes they are forgiving. Anyways see if some other people respond before sending it in.
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Yeah it's hard bricked, I'll wait a while just in case someone else has some tips or something. Let that be a lesson, ALWAYS check the MD5 to whoever is reading this
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Long story short I flashed a 7.2.3 bootloader from hashcodes TWRP thread to my KFHD7 and now it wont turn on at all. I have a factory cable but fastboot and adb can't do anything since the bootloader isn't even loaded yet. I'm sort of nervous to do the USB boot trick because I heard that that trick was designed for an older kindle model. I'm downloading Firekit now but the option I need to fix my kindle requires the USB boot trick so will that trick work on my kindle or not? Also could anyone point me in the right direction to flashing a CORRECT bootloader so this doesent happen a third time? (My kindle's OS is 7.4.3 with OTA disabled)
P.S. The file attached is the bootloader I flashed.
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Sorry to tell you but there is nothing you can do. The "usb boot trick" does not work on the new gen models. I have seen numerous people with the same problem and no solution has been found.
I'm a little confused as to why the fastboot cable won't work. It should entirely bypass the need for a boot loader, that's sort of the whole point.
What happens when you plug in your fastboot cable (to both your PC and your kindle) and power on? Do you even get the orange kindle flash animation?
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I'm a little confused as to why the fastboot cable won't work. It should entirely bypass the need for a boot loader, that's sort of the whole point.
What happens when you plug in your fastboot cable (to both your PC and your kindle) and power on? Do you even get the orange kindle flash animation?
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I don't know where you get that idea, but you are radically misguided. The bootloader is never "bypassed" when using a factory cable. The bootloader is fully functional and doing exactly what it is programmed to do, which is, enable fastboot while a factory cable is plugged in.
However in your case, the bootloader isn't even being loaded because the OMAP ROM has completely halted the boot process...which is exactly why the factory cable will not work.
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I'm a little confused as to why the fastboot cable won't work. It should entirely bypass the need for a boot loader, that's sort of the whole point.
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That's what I thought at first too, but then I thought I heard something about the boot loader having fast boot in it, now I am just confusing myself. Fast boot has to be stored somewhere on the kindle, for some reason I always thought of it as a chip that wasn't part of the onboard storage, but then I realized if we get omap440 bricks and fastboot won't kick in it must be part of the partitions, so I am inclined to think its stored in the boot loader. If I am wrong I would love to know where it is stored out of curiosity.
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That's what I thought at first too, but then I thought I heard something about the boot loader having fast boot in it, now I am just confusing myself. Fast boot has to be stored somewhere on the kindle, for some reason I always thought of it as a chip that wasn't part of the onboard storage, but then I realized if we get omap440 bricks and fastboot won't kick in it must be part of the partitions, so I am inclined to think its stored in the boot loader. If I am wrong I would love to know where it is stored out of curiosity.
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Wait a sec I just found something: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135611
Could these drivers be used to somehow communicate with the kindle? Maybe prevent the OMAP ROM from stopping the booting process?
If not then I'll just buy a new kindle, since I can't even access the filesystem to delete the su and busybox binaries if I wanted to send it back to amazon.
The drivers are useful, but not to the point we can use them, we need a program that knows how to communicate sending data to the kindle thru omap440 interface. Much like how adb drivers are useless without the adb program.
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stunts513 said:
The drivers are useful, but not to the point we can use them, we need a program that knows how to communicate sending data to the kindle thru omap440 interface. Much like how adb drivers are useless without the adb program.
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Have you tried looking earlier in the thread where it has the usbboot/aboot website?
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I can't seem to find a compiled one so I'll see if I can do it for ya.
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Some of the most talented and experienced developers and hackers in the community have been looking at this problem for some time now. The Kindle Fire is not the only device to have OMAP HS processors with M-Shield turned on, and it definitely isn't the first.
Believe me, if there is a solution to this problem, it will be found, but by those who are waaaaaaay more experienced than any of us.
The best you can do at this point is learn from your experience, be much more careful in the future, and do the appropriate amount of research the next time you decide to modify your device.
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Some of the most talented and experienced developers and hackers in the community have been looking at this problem for some time now. The Kindle Fire is not the only device to have OMAP HS processors with M-Shield turned on, and it definitely isn't the first.
Believe me, if there is a solution to this problem, it will be found, but by those who are waaaaaaay more experienced than any of us.
The best you can do at this point is learn from your experience, be much more careful in the future, and do the appropriate amount of research the next time you decide to modify your device.
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Yeah you're right. Well thanks to everyone for all the information, and I'll be sure to be way more careful when screwing around with low level things such as bootloaders. I'm just gonna sell my bricked kindle on ebay for parts and get a new one from amazon. Thanks again everyone.
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Yeah you're right. Well thanks to everyone for all the information, and I'll be sure to be way more careful when screwing around with low level things such as bootloaders. I'm just gonna sell my bricked kindle on ebay for parts and get a new one from amazon. Thanks again everyone.
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You're not gonna wait for me to compile usbboot and aboot?
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Because I'm too lazy to Google right now, what do those programs do?
Edit: after looking through some threads I'm guessing its a flasher for the omap440 device, that's kinda not tested and just stuck together for testing. So we have no idea if it would work.
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stunts513 said:
Because I'm too lazy to Google right now, what do those programs do?
Edit: after looking through some threads I'm guessing its a flasher for the omap440 device, that's kinda not tested and just stuck together for testing. So we have no idea if it would work.
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It wouldn't hurt anything. To your knowledge, your device is screwed beyond repair. And if it fixes your kindle, why not try it?
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It wouldn't hurt anything. To your knowledge, your device is screwed beyond repair. And if it fixes your kindle, why not try it?
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Don't waste your time. The initial USB loader used to flash images to the eMMC must also be digitally signed. Unless, by some miracle, you happen to have a copy...it won't work. You'd be better off either trying to get a copy of the boot tools used by Amazon in the factory (somewhere in China), or finding an exploit in the OMAP ROM code which, I'm guessing, probably isn't available either.
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It wouldn't hurt anything. To your knowledge, your device is screwed beyond repair. And if it fixes your kindle, why not try it?
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Well I still do have my kindle so if you do happen to get usbboot and aboot working I'd gladly have my kindle be the lab rat for it. But the only problem is the signature for the USB loader, just like soupmagnet said.
sorry about how old this thread is, but I flashed a good bootloader to my Kindle (forgot the exact model), but it was for a different Kindle. Is there anything I can do? My computer doesn't pickup ANYTHING when I plug it in.
Hi,
I just wanted to ask when flashing a new rom with KFFIRSTAIDE how long should it take? It's just my KFHD7 went to the FastBoot logo screen and it says now flashing the freedom boot loader, how long should that take? I've not done this before so didn't know if it's still working even if it looks like it isn't.
Thanks
JK
bodgeup said:
Hi,
I just wanted to ask when flashing a new rom with KFFIRSTAIDE how long should it take? It's just my KFHD7 went to the FastBoot logo screen and it says now flashing the freedom boot loader, how long should that take? I've not done this before so didn't know if it's still working even if it looks like it isn't.
Thanks
JK
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Can take an hour or more to return to stock. Do yourself a favor and do not use KFFA to push TWRP and custom ROM, 2nd bootloader. There are other topics that cover that on here. Use KFFA to restore, root, add GAPPS and attain Super User.
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LinearEquation said:
Can take an hour or more to return to stock. Do yourself a favor and do not use KFFA to push TWRP and custom ROM, 2nd bootloader. There are other topics that cover that on here. Use KFFA to restore, root, add GAPPS and attain Super User.
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Any suggestions on what topics to look for? bearing in mind ive got 7.4.6 on my KFHD7 and only have the original cable.
Thanks
JK
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Any suggestions on what topics to look for? bearing in mind ive got 7.4.6 on my KFHD7 and only have the original cable.
Thanks
JK
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If you bootloop, you will need a fastboot cord. You can go to Hashcode's 2nd bootloader / TWRP topic if you want to use push commands from using 7.4.6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128848.
You can also go to seokhun's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909 and flash the 2nd bootloader / TWRP. If you do this you will want to full restore to 7.2.3 using KFFA first or bootlooping is highly likely.
Some great info about this on Opemsystem's thread as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347170
Good luck.
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LinearEquation said:
If you bootloop, you will need a fastboot cord. You can go to Hashcode's 2nd bootloader / TWRP topic if you want to use push commands from using 7.4.6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128848.
You can also go to seokhun's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909 and flash:angel: the 2nd bootloader / TWRP. If you do this you will want to full restore to 7.2.3 using KFFA first or bootlooping is highly likely.
Some great info about this on Opemsystem's thread as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347170
Good luck.
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Thank you for the links.
I have a question. My mom owns a kfhd7. Months ago I used kindle fire first aid (iirc) to root it. I did not have a fastboot cable, although I did get the drivers and adb working to it - I didn't want to flash a 2nd bootloader or custom recovery because I wasn't quite sure if I would soft brick it or if I could get it back without the fastboot cable. Not wanting to risk the wrath of mom... I used a utility to force golauncher, enable sound tweaks and live wallpapers. I left it like that.
But.
She somehow enabled parental controls and doesn't have a password for it... And is running out of books. So I may have an opportunity to make it a little more useful and install a custom recovery.
Not sure what to do next. Follow the 3rd thread on your list? I need a boot loader and custom recovery.
Halo?
wilzard said:
Thank you for the links.
I have a question. My mom owns a kfhd7. Months ago I used kindle fire first aid (iirc) to root it. I did not have a fastboot cable, although I did get the drivers and adb working to it - I didn't want to flash a 2nd bootloader or custom recovery because I wasn't quite sure if I would soft brick it or if I could get it back without the fastboot cable. Not wanting to risk the wrath of mom... I used a utility to force golauncher, enable sound tweaks and live wallpapers. I left it like that.
But.
She somehow enabled parental controls and doesn't have a password for it... And is running out of books. So I may have an opportunity to make it a little more useful and install a custom recovery.
Not sure what to do next. Follow the 3rd thread on your list? I need a boot loader and custom recovery.
Halo?
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Link 2 and 3 cover the same ground. The 3rd link covers some important information that became more pertinent as the firmware expanded and bootlooping became more frequent.
Here is a very important tip. Hashcode's thread (first link) is where the boot.img and TWRP files you flash are located. Use no others unless they are posted by him. When you restore back to 7.2.3, use the boot.img listed in Hashcode's step 4. Not number 4 of step 2 but step 4. Use that 7.2.3 boot.img and which ever TWRP he has in his original post. This way you have a match and if you read and follow the instructions exactly, you should turn out just fine.
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LinearEquation said:
Link 2 and 3 cover the same ground. The 3rd link covers some important information that became more pertinent as the firmware expanded and bootlooping became more frequent.
Here is a very important tip. Hashcode's thread (first link) is where the boot.img and TWRP files you flash are located. Use no TWRP unless they are posted by him. When you restore back to 7.2.3, use the boot.img listed in Hashcode's step 4. Not number 4 of step 2 but step 4. Use that 7.2.3 boot.img and which ever TWRP he has in his original post. This way you have a match and if you read and follow the instructions exactly, you should turn out just fine.
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wilzard said:
Thank you for the links.
I have a question. My mom owns a kfhd7. Months ago I used kindle fire first aid (iirc) to root it. I did not have a fastboot cable, although I did get the drivers and adb working to it - I didn't want to flash a 2nd bootloader or custom recovery because I wasn't quite sure if I would soft brick it or if I could get it back without the fastboot cable. Not wanting to risk the wrath of mom... I used a utility to force golauncher, enable sound tweaks and live wallpapers. I left it like that.
But.
She somehow enabled parental controls and doesn't have a password for it... And is running out of books. So I may have an opportunity to make it a little more useful and install a custom recovery.
Not sure what to do next. Follow the 3rd thread on your list? I need a boot loader and custom recovery.
Halo?
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One more thing. Before you flash, stick the ROM you want to use on the root of your SD card first. This way it is thee no matter what.
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Hi all,
I got really interested in rooting and such my Kindle Fire. However, when I used the tool on here for installing Google Play and its components, my dog accidentally pulled on the cable, disconnecting the Kindle mid-process of the tool.
Tool was this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069329
No however upon boot up, my kindle shows NO ads now. Then when I unlock it, it's extremely sluggish, shows no icons in the carousel, but still recognizes all my personal data and can still be accessed via computer.
I've tried loads of different things to fix it, but to no avail. I've gone into Fastboot mode (Though it just remains stuck at the logo) and when I try these two tools, nothing seems to help fix the problem.
Tools: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428428
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888
Any suggestions guys? Any help will be great. I'd just like to get it back to the way it was.
Ugh I think I vaguely remember what causes this but not well enough to fix it, so what did you do so far, did you reflash the system partition? Because I think this might be in the /data folder in a build.prop but I am unsure, I know the main built.prop you usually see is in the /system folder. This I think has something to do with a qemu property but like I said I hope I am pointing you in decent direction. I will see if I can pull up a similar post and give you a link to a fix.
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Ugh I think I vaguely remember what causes this but not well enough to fix it, so what did you do so far, did you reflash the system partition? Because I think this might be in the /data folder in a build.prop but I am unsure, I know the main built.prop you usually see is in the /system folder. This I think has something to do with a qemu property but like I said I hope I am pointing you in decent direction. I will see if I can pull up a similar post and give you a link to a fix.
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Thanks for the advice, but sadly I'm unfamiliar with loads of the inner workings, since I was using the automatic coders to get the roms in and etc.
All I really did was start the Tool, hit the number on CMD for applying the Google Play stuff (NOTE: I manually rooted the kindle before hand) then the dog thing happened. Now it's as I've said. I don't own the Fastboot cable either, but I DO get to go to Fastboot Mode (Logo Only) through the tool.
Be careful, I don't know if that tool is from this section of the forum, and some tools from the kf1 section can hard brick your kindle, still looking for the thread BTW.
Edit: I can't seem to find the thread... I don't like recomending doing this since it will wipe all your apps and their data, but do a factory reset from the kindles settings if you can get to it, I think it will fix the problem, not positive.
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I've been looking into it, I may have used stuff for Gen 1 Kindle's, so yeah, that could have been the problem.
Gonna do the factory reset, only thing I haven't tried. Transferring photos. Lady friend may stab me for losing those.
Thanks again for the advice. I'll get back to you with any change.
Ah thanks to soupemagnet he reminded me of what I am thinking of, you need to delete /data/local.prop
Hope you get this before you lose any data.
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Thanks for all the tips, go it to work. Sadly I already did the factory reset, and now it's all back to normal.
Any guides out there to get the Kindle to A Full on tablet? I'd be trusting only the ones you send now. Don't want to use a guide for KF1s.
If you mean flashing a ROM of an actual android os, here's the guide for it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
Just make sure that in fire flash you check the box with the red warning text or your kindle will have a red screen of death that only a fastboot cable will fix, also remember to put a copy of the ROM you want to flash and gapps for that ROM on the kindles sdcard before flashing or you might get stuck in a recovery loop depending on your kindle os version. That tutorial also has some ROMs on it you can use, there might be others in the development section its from you can use as well depending on whenever the last time seokhun updated that tut. That tutorial may be lengthy, but make sure you read all of it, that way you make sure you follow exactly what it says to do and reduce your chances of bricking. Its always better to be safe when messing with a locked devices boot loader than sorry.
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