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Where should i start first to learn how to code for android, make roms and compile the android tree?

or just a good place to start?

From what starting point?
Building android to make custom builds involves knowing lots of things; java, c, linux, gcc build system, android platform, etc, etc.
To make apps you just need to know java and the android platform.
Start here: http://developer.android.com/

Code for Home screen Pull up Menu
I have a similar request but was unsure if I should start a new thread, If this needs to be moved my apologies (I also searched through Q&A forums as well and came up empty ). Where or how could I get the source code for the Home Screen pull up menu? I checked out the Google Source Code but it requires Linux or Mac OS and I run Windows Vista.

cingall said:
I have a similar request but was unsure if I should start a new thread, If this needs to be moved my apologies (I also searched through Q&A forums as well and came up empty ). Where or how could I get the source code for the Home Screen pull up menu? I checked out the Google Source Code but it requires Linux or Mac OS and I run Windows Vista.
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i don't think you can compile the source code in windows

david1171 said:
i don't think you can compile the source code in windows
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Yeah, I'm considering running Linux on my laptop alongside Vista, as I have hit dead-ends on a couple projects simply because you need Linux for different things . All I really need is a place that I could find the source; I had an idea that I proposed to mohsinkhan47 for his Vista theme and he asked me to find the code for the pullup menu. It would be much appreciated if anyone could guide me in the right direction.

i know where you can get the entire source code. grab it from here

Thanks for the link, that was the site that I went too before but says I need either Linux or Mac OS. Still scouring the android sites but coming up with nothing .

Yeah I do not think there is a way to compile the source in windows. I guess like stericson once said "you're going to have to get your hands dirty and use linux" (it was something like that.

Guess I gotta break my cherry sometime, thanks all for the advice.

[Q]What Linux OS for developing Android?

Hello, my question is what is the best Linux OS to develop android for our lovely x8

According to the grapevine Google is using Ubuntu amd64 for Android development.

i use linux mint as my main OS. it works for me. especially for when im using android SDK and NDK in terminal. but you can use ubuntu. but i dont like ubuntu

I have used Ubuntu before as my main os, it was running quite well so I'll try with it, thanks.

Can't we just develop Android using windows??

azyar said:
Can't we just develop Android using windows??
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Yeah, what's the difference?

azyar said:
Can't we just develop Android using windows??
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Chris95X8 said:
Yeah, what's the difference?
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Well... I think the question of the thread was:
[Q]What Linux OS for developing Android?
The question was NOT:
[Q]What Linux OS for developing Android Apps?
Like it or not, but you need a Linux system to get the stunt of Android compilation done. While I'm sure that you can edit the source of Android in Notepad++ in Windows as well I don't think you can compile Android directly in Windows.
Normal application development can be done in Windows, Linux or OS X - the SDK/NDK is available for all three of them.

can i install Ubuntu and run it on my windows desktop??

i wanted to kno if i could run ubuntu on my windows pc?? i dont need to use it rite now but i would like to learn how to use it in case i ever need it... thanks

evo401 said:
i wanted to kno if i could run ubuntu on my windows pc?? i dont need to use it rite now but i would like to learn how to use it in case i ever need it... thanks
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Yes you can you can either dual boot windows and linux or run it in a virtual machine or you can use a special installer that essentially allows you to install linux like any other windows application and uninstall it when you want to get rid of it.
I assume you want to get into android development maybe compile android from source. I'd recommend ubuntu and until the kinks are worked out I'd go with ubuntu 11.10 which you can get here:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
Information on dual booting windows and linux:
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/10/27/dual-boot-ubuntu-11-10-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-2-hard-drives/2/
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
Running linux in a virtual machine:
https://www.virtualbox.org
Install linux using special installer (wubi):
http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/wubi.exe
Hope this helps you if you need any help feel free to ask or if you want some guides on developing android on linux (compiling from source, kernels, etc.) I can help with that to
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sweet!!!! good looking out bro!! just what i was looking for :good:

evo401 said:
sweet!!!! good looking out bro!! just what i was looking for :good:
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Always glad to help let me know like I said if you want some guides on compiling linux on android and suff like that ... oh what the heck here are some guides:
Official Google guide to building Android from source on Linux
Official Google guide to building Android Kernel from source on Linux
Build Cyanogenmod from Source
How to use Github for Android Development
Basic commands for Linux and Android

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The easiest way to install Ubuntu is to use Wubi. It lets you install Ubuntu like a regular application in Windows.
- Download Wubi
- Choose Ubuntu in the list
- Click install
- It'll download and install Ubuntu for you
- Reboot and choose Ubuntu at boot
- You're done.
If you want to remove Ubuntu from your computer, you simply boot into Windows and uninstall it like a regular application If you decide to permanently keep it i recommend you install it by itself on a separate partition. That way it'll run better. But if you just plan to try it and you're not planning on running some heavy stuff (games etc.), then Wubi will do it just fine.

Linux instead Android

Hi, I would like to run linux instead android, -WOLF- from 4pda.ru have done this with his samsung galaxy spica and I would like to do the same for our OB.Here is origina thread on 4pda.ru but it is all in russan.I tried to make a kernel with frambuffer console and sdcard as root directory but it failed.So anyone who can cook kernels please help.Then, when kernel is done we will try to run linux(ubuntu, andstrom, etc.).
Thank u!
Here is angstroms LFS for abstract smarphone and people wich port it to their devices

suleymanovemil8 said:
Hi, I would like to run linux instead android, -WOLF- from 4pda.ru have done this with his samsung galaxy spica and I would like to do the same for our OB.Here is origina thread on 4pda.ru but it is all in russan.I tried to make a kernel with frambuffer console and sdcard as root directory but it failed.So anyone who can cook kernels please help.Then, when kernel is done we will try to run linux(ubuntu, andstrom, etc.).
Thank u!
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I had installed successfully UBUNTU with VNC but result was not one can use daily so removed in one hour, though good for experiment.
And our OB processor is not enough powerful you can throw Linux. Minimum requirement for UBUNTU is dual core processor.
Search UBUNTU on mobile, or UBUNTU;s official site.

cant we run win 95 ?

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I had installed successfully UBUNTU with VNC but result was not one can use daily so removed in one hour, though good for experiment.
And our OB processor is not enough powerful you can throw Linux. Minimum requirement for UBUNTU is dual core processor.
Search UBUNTU on mobile, or UBUNTU;s official site.
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I don't mean linux on androi, I mean installing linux instead of android and I'd like to use Angstrom and if galaxy spica and gio can run it our OB will do it !And it doesn't requires prosessors clock and a lot of ram because there is no android, it runs along as native os.And i know about ubuntu for mobile, it runs on android and it is like a linux on android.

BeBeLKhaN said:
cant we run win 95 ?
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No.We can run linux because we can take android's linux kernel.Android is very low weight linux.

First we need just enable framebuffer console in kernel, this will help us with starting linux ::

suleymanovemil8 said:
Hi, I would like to run linux instead android, -WOLF- from 4pda.ru have done this with his samsung galaxy spica and I would like to do the same for our OB.Here is origina thread on 4pda.ru but it is all in russan.I tried to make a kernel with frambuffer console and sdcard as root directory but it failed.So anyone who can cook kernels please help.Then, when kernel is done we will try to run linux(ubuntu, andstrom, etc.).
Thank u!
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Android is based on Linux, so what do you expect by running Linux on OB?
I don't have time to do that, so I'll just wait and see your progress then...

What will you choose? Computer with linux dis. or with android?I think with linux.

BeBeLKhaN said:
cant we run win 95 ?
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)) you made my day )) EPIC answer )

WTF
suleymanovemil8 said:
What will you choose? Computer with linux dis. or with android?I think with linux.
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I do using my computer with Ubuntu Linux OS, not Android.
Your quest above are,
suleymanovemil8 said:
... I would like to do the same for our OB.
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So, you are talking about OS on computer, or mobile device?!

redy2006, please help with kernel, i'm gonna get craizy with this kernel...

In the past I had a chinese android device which had 3 options of booting: Android, Linux(I think ubuntu) and Windows CE.
It's really very nice to run linux because it looks like a real pc

ohadz said:
In the past I had a chinese android device which had 3 options of booting: Android, Linux(I think ubuntu) and Windows CE.
It's really very nice to run linux because it looks like a real pc
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Whe off ics will release i will take it's new kernel 3.xx, but i neeeed help with kernel.

redy2006 said:
I do using my computer with Ubuntu Linux OS, not Android.
Your quest above are,
So, you are talking about OS on computer, or mobile device?!
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mobile device, well i think this will make our device more poerfulll, we could use the programs wich are not ported on any android device, and do many more!

This belongs in general.

BeBeLKhaN said:
cant we run win 95 ?
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Yes, we can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWkqMmtSJRE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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wessyh0 said:
Yes, we can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWkqMmtSJRE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was launched with apk i foger it two weeks ago windows 95.It booted 30 sec.mouse control was very hard and i couldnt access sd files.Than I delete win95 image and application.

Win 95 can run alongside android but if u want to make it your native os u must work alot to port it.And in this thread i don't mean runing any os with android i mean runnning linux dis. instead of android.

Any question about "4pda.ru" here: http://onlinecontent.ru/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2&sid=09bc3461206b22af1e5f924e0fc2900c

Port Ubuntu Touch

Hi guys,
If you're, like me, greatly excited to get Ubuntu Touch onto your phone, and/or tablet, here is a guide to port it!
It helps you get started on a port:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
Also:
This is not a thread for eta:s for your device port. Nor is it a thread to ask for a port. Both of which you'll have to go to each device's own forum.
This is a thread for discuss ports, get help on them and to share experiences.
For Ubuntu Touch specific questions, see other threads.
FAQ:
Can you port device X?; Ask in your device X's forum. Or even better, try it yourself! It's not that hard, actually. See link above.
Does Ubuntu Touch run Android Apps?; No.
Will it?; Maybe. If anyone cares to actually make it work.
Do I need to have X; run Y; or do Z?; Check the Port guide! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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Everyone with a nexus needs to install Ubuntu and then show everyone they know how in it's current state it is unusable except as a test device for apps.

Sv: Port Ubuntu Touch
Markk29 said:
Everyone with a nexus needs to install Ubuntu and then show everyone they know how in it's current state it is unusable except as a test device for apps.
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Well, it is a dev release for developers and Ubuntu enthusiasts, so they probably already run Ubuntu. And if not, it's a 20 min install.
And porting it is still a large project by itself, so it'll go nicely hand in hand until the stable release of Touch, I think.
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coming soon https://plus.google.com/u/0/107265043789873157543/posts/hAE1grem6hj

Kalashnikitty said:
coming soon https://plus.google.com/u/0/107265043789873157543/posts/hAE1grem6hj
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is that S3 , in the pic if i am not wrong?
Porting posted:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting

S3 already has it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-up-running-on-samsung-galaxy-s3

Just been reading through the process and if seems relatively straightforward to port so I can't wait to see what comes out of this

can i ask a question?what mean ubuntu is based on cm10.1?by which meaning?ubuntu i quess it will be an OS by itshelf.why based on cm10.1?

termagazis said:
can i ask a question?what mean ubuntu is based on cm10.1?by which meaning?ubuntu i quess it will be an OS by itshelf.why based on cm10.1?
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Because some of the Android components are reused. Read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#General

Ubuntu is a distro. Linux is an OS. Android is kind of a distro too.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Actually pending when canonical gets to compile drivers for particular phones which incidentally is probably going to be for only their oem devices, they use the cm base.
Essentially just the drivers and hal layer.
Its not based on CM. It takes advantage of CM base. Its direct ubuntu.
And from what iv seen you can forget about lag. The alpha is awesome compared with android alphas
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edy_3dz said:
Because some of the Android components are reused. Read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#General
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yes i have read this but my english isnt perfect so i maybe didnt understant something.so because ubuntu and android are based in Linux kernel,they taking some stuff "ready" for more easyness.something like that?

Phones need drivers like your PC does and a kernel which acts as interaface between the hardware and the operating system.
Everyphone uses its own vendor supplied kernel with some modifaction and their own graphics driver. So they use the low-level stuff that already exists for Ubuntu.
You can't just make one "OS" for a smartphone that just works on all devices it has to be ported to the specific hardware (kernel and driver).

blackout23 said:
Phones need drivers like your PC does and a kernel which acts as interaface between the hardware and the operating system.
Everyphone uses its own vendor supplied kernel with some modifaction and their own graphics driver. So they use the low-level stuff that already exists for Ubuntu.
You can't just make one "OS" for a smartphone that just works on all devices it has to be ported to the specific hardware (kernel and driver).
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thats what i mean.so they took the allready existing stuff from cm10.1 because it will work with ubuntu (or with some small changes) because both OS are based on Linux kernel.i understand right?

fromanbr said:
Ubuntu is a distro. Linux is an OS. Android is kind of a distro too.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Ubuntu is a distro or distribution which is a OS Linux isn't a OS it's a kernel (the underlying framework kinda like the glue)
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Ubuntu is a distro or distribution which is a OS Linux isn't a OS it's a kernel (the underlying framework kinda like the glue)
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Wikipedia says Linux is an unix like OS, but the main component is the Linux Kernel. Android only uses the Linux Kernel and not so much the GNU system tools which make it unix like, that is why people generally don't refer to android as a Linux distro.

BukaKing said:
Wikipedia says Linux is an unix like OS, but the main component is the Linux Kernel.
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But saying it like that makes it sound like u can use this as a Mac OS or Windows replacement which I think is what he was asking
Android only uses the Linux Kernel and not so much the GNU system tools which make it unix like, that is why people generally don't refer to android as a Linux distro.
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I never said android was a Linux distro
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But saying it like that makes it sound like u can use this as a Mac OS or Windows replacement which I think is what he was asking
I never said android was a Linux distro
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You didn't say android was a Linux distro but he did, I was just adding to the conversation.
I think I may understand what you're thinking though. Mac and Windows are not open source and you cant build your own version, so they are not as comparable in that sense, they are binary distributions. But you can build your own Linux configured the way you want outside of any distro, a distro is just a packaged version of Linux with additional packages and configurations.

Had angie tried to pull the source code? It's ridiculously slow on my end. About 15gb at 9 to 152kbs... I guess every dev in the world is trying to pull it...Lol...too bad there's no way to speed it up
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fromanbr said:
Ubuntu is a distro. Linux is an OS. Android is kind of a distro too.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Actually, Linux is a clone of the UNIX kernel. Ubuntu is an operating system (or Linux distribution) with a Linux kernel. Android could be considered a Linux distribution as well, even though it's mostly Java stacks on top of a Linux kernel.
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