Hi guys, was just messing around a while ago and found out that if you turn exposure to +2 and then choose HDR and set the camera to shoot at 5MP, it takes in almost 300% more light than normal. I find it funny though because the One X's camera app had a similar bug where Night mode would stick to HDR thus allowing extremely long exposure times (for phone standards) and also capturing approximately 300% more light.
EDIT: I chose to turn it to 5MP so that the HDR can be processed faster.
Have any of you tried this too?
Just wanted to share
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The main reason I shared this is because with other phones, you cannot manually set the Exposure whilst using HDR Mode, the Exposure settings usually get grayed out or it simply resets to 0.
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Does +2 exposure actually increase the exposure time or is it just pushing the exposure up two stops digitally?
wtfshouldidonow said:
Hi guys, was just messing around a while ago and found out that if you turn exposure to +2 and then choose HDR and set the camera to shoot at 5MP, it takes in almost 300% more light than normal. I find it funny though because the One X's camera app had a similar bug where Night mode would stick to HDR thus allowing extremely long exposure times (for phone standards) and also capturing approximately 300% more light.
Have any of you tried this too?
Just wanted to share
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Works for me. Thanks for the tip. The difference is incredible.
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Does +2 exposure actually increase the exposure time or is it just pushing the exposure up two stops digitally?
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The increase of exposure time that I'm talking about only applies to the One X camera bug. The +2 exposure + HDR on our Nexus 4, I don't really know how to explain. Maybe someone else can, I'm just sharing here
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the +1, +2, +3.. exposure times is doing what its supposed to do, its letting more light in, thats its function. the shutter is staying open longer. no more, no less. just as a -1,-2, -3 lets less light in.
Compare the normal shots with exposure increased to HDR shots with exposure increased though, and the difference is huge
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Hey guys! I can confirm this!! I have taken the photos (attatched) in low light no flash. See respective file names for method. I will take some more in daylight later. 2 AM right now.
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Compare the normal shots with exposure increased to HDR shots with exposure increased though, and the difference is huge
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compare a normal shot with an hdr shot and the difference is huge too.
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Compare the normal shots with exposure increased to HDR shots with exposure increased though, and the difference is huge
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this is the exact result I just got from my own N4 camera using the stock aosp cam app from PA 3.50 may 14th build
not only do I get more light, the colors are far more true to those in real life!!
+2 exposure, HDR off
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hp420 said:
this is the exact result I just got from my own N4 camera using the stock aosp cam app from PA 3.50 may 14th build
not only do I get more light, the colors are far more true to those in real life!
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Wouldn't the same thing apply when you're comparing regular exposure with HDR and regular exposure without HDR?
I think someone should test these two shots: regular exposure and HDR, and
+2 exposure and HDR
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rabrot said:
Wouldn't the same thing apply when you're comparing regular exposure with HDR and regular exposure without HDR?
I think someone should test these two shots: regular exposure and HDR, and
+2 exposure and HDR
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I think the reason why the effect is so pronounced is because HDR is a series of photos merged together at several regular exposure settings....however, by setting the overall exposure to +2, as opposed to stitching say -2, 0, and +2 exposures together, it's now stitching 0, 2, and +4 exposures together.
At least that is what I think is going on.
I tried it with 8mp and it seems to work fine. OP, any reason why you suggested 5mp?
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I think the reason why the effect is so pronounced is because HDR is a series of photos merged together at several regular exposure settings....however, by setting the overall exposure to +2, as opposed to stitching say -2, 0, and +2 exposures together, it's now stitching 0, 2, and +4 exposures together.
At least that is what I think is going on.
I tried it with 8mp and it seems to work fine. OP, any reason why you suggested 5mp?
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Faster processing with 5 mp . Try it
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compare a normal shot with an hdr shot and the difference is huge too.
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Why are you such a do*che? I'm really sorry mate, no offense. I used to "admire" you for your skills in taking great pics with your Gnex and just recently the N4, but man, if you don't want to accept the fact that some little things DO make a difference then just please stay back and shut up. Okay? Really, I don't want to start a fight here.
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Why are you such a do*che? I'm really sorry mate, no offense. I used to "admire" you for your skills in taking great pics with your Gnex and just recently the N4, but man, if you don't want to accept the fact that some little things DO make a difference then just please stay back and shut up. Okay? Really, I don't want to start a fight here.
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dude chill, im not being a douche. im trying to tell you that this is how the camera is supposed to work. thats why you get those options, to tweak the camera and better your images. there are other ways to get little light tweaks too, like the angle you point the camera at the object youre shooting at, for example. anyways, im not trying to start a fight, youre freakout right here is doing a good job on its own. what im trying to do is tell you that what you discovered isnt new. you have to do what you must to get the best photos in the light conditions that are available. thats all. no disrespect to you. but i didnt deserve the above post either.
I take lots of photos with my N4, I just dont post them up like others do. I'm very happy with the quality of the photos...in daylight. Tried this and compared it to stock 8 megapixel settings. It indeed is a big difference and the HDR delay is minimal. Nice find op. :good:
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I take lots of photos with my N4, I just dont post them up like others do. I'm very happy with the quality of the photos...in daylight. Tried this and compared it to stock 8 megapixel settings. It indeed is a big difference and the HDR delay is minimal. Nice find op. :good:
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OP Updated. @simms22, Okay, I admit I was cranky back there Just had a nap and I'm refreshed! Lol. Sorry for my tantrum, that was almost 4am in the morning in my area and I still haven't had any sleep, just got back from a long flight. Apologies sir!
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OP Updated. @simms22, Okay, I admit I was cranky back there Just had a nap and I'm refreshed! Lol. Sorry for my tantrum, that was almost 4am in the morning in my area and I still haven't had any sleep, just got back from a long flight. Apologies sir!
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i was the same way this morning, seriously. so apology excepted for sure
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Why are you such a do*che? I'm really sorry mate, no offense. I used to "admire" you for your skills in taking great pics with your Gnex and just recently the N4, but man, if you don't want to accept the fact that some little things DO make a difference then just please stay back and shut up. Okay? Really, I don't want to start a fight here.
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Google how exposure works and what the exposure compensations of +1 and +2 mean and you will no longer call people, telling you that you found nothing new, douches.
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What I like about the camera on this phone is it takes really good pics in scenes that have multi colored lighting. By that I mean those neon lights in the bars. When my wife takes a pic with her HTC phone at the bar, it comes out with a lot of color and glare from those lights, even with the flash. When I take pic right next to her, my camera does a good job of toning down those colors and glares. The result is a pic that has more white lighting and much better looking.
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Google how exposure works and what the exposure compensations of +1 and +2 mean and you will no longer call people, telling you that you found nothing new, douches.
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When I set my shutter speed in manual mode to anything between 2.5 and 4 seconds (for long exposures) it seems that my camera draws MUCH more light and makes the screen and picture almost completely white. I have verified that the flash is off. I am new to long exposure photography and I know a phone isn't the best device for it, but I have seen a few reviews which mentioned it on this phone and thought I'd give it a try. Is anyone else noticing this? I am testing it in my office and the screen is almost a solid white. Thank you in advance
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When I set my shutter speed in manual mode to anything between 2.5 and 4 seconds (for long exposures) it seems that my camera draws MUCH more light and makes the screen and picture almost completely white. I have verified that the flash is off. I am new to long exposure photography and I know a phone isn't the best device for it, but I have seen a few reviews which mentioned it on this phone and thought I'd give it a try. Is anyone else noticing this? I am testing it in my office and the screen is almost a solid white. Thank you in advance
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Long exposure shots are usually used at night when it's not as bright. Pictures of the night sky where you can see the star trails, or the pictures of cars on the highway with the headlights as a streak are examples of long exposure. Using long exposure when the is enough light for a normal picture will cause it to look washed out (overexposed) try the long exposure shot outside at night. If you have kids give them sparklers. It's a cool way to have fun with the family and get some really cool pictures.
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Long exposure shots are usually used at night when it's not as bright. Pictures of the night sky where you can see the star trails, or the pictures of cars on the highway with the headlights as a streak are examples of long exposure. Using long exposure when the is enough light for a normal picture will cause it to look washed out (overexposed) try the long exposure shot outside at night. If you have kids give them sparklers. It's a cool way to have fun with the family and get some really cool pictures.
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Thank you for the response. That makes much more sense! I appreciate you explaining it to a camera noobie like me Thanked!
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Thank you for the response. That makes much more sense! I appreciate you explaining it to a camera noobie like me Thanked!
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No problem. My girlfriend has a cannon rebel t3i so we have taken a few long exposure shots. Very cool but kinda tricky. We have always used a tripod to hold the camera.
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If it was not already painfully obvious to any of us with children, the movement of subjects using both the Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy Note Edge camera results in CONSTANT blurry photos.
Yes, we have all tried sports mode. And we know about the rapid image capture trick which takes a bunch of photos we don't want, to get a single shot. We also know that the video can take an impressive 4K, and you can grab .png files from the video that are frozen. But, seriously, who does this?
This thread is meant to point out a serious flaw in the firmware of the Samsung OIS 16mp camera on the Galaxy Note 4 and Edge and Samsung knows it. We need to demand an update that handles the far to wide open Fstop that Samsung is using for normally lit environments, and give us a night mode selection for those shots we can manually turn on and off. I am tired of my kids looking like a blurry mess because they looked in a slightly different direction during every shot. It's not like I am complaining because they are running around the room created blurred images. This is far more common than it should be.
Anyone want to post their blurry pics of fully lit rooms, I will be joining you when I have a chance to upload them.
Cmon Samsung, fix the camera on your $800+ phone. Really sad since when their is zero movement in the image, the quality is pretty fantastic.
EDIT: If anyone can get any subject frozen in motion, please let me know. There may be some defective camera in these phones, but I have not seen any still shots in sports mode of any people caught in movement yet. None.
I agree with your assessment. Also how can we speed up the shutter speed taking a picture with flash? I press the button and seconds later it takes the picture by then I've lost the shot.
Sorry man I have to say I disagree. Every phone I have had, has been bad up until now. I was on HTC then jumped to samsung gs3 then gs4. This has been an issue for so long with all phones. In fact most people I know with Icrap phone will ask me to take the picture instead cuz they can't stand their camera on the iphone. This has been the first time I am satisfied with the camera. Just 3 days ago my daughter had a Christmas show at school and every picture was crystal clear even with all the kids moving. Yesterday too I took my daughters to a chris.as festival and the kids were playing in the fake snow. Again crystal clear. To add to that my wife was using her gs3 and could not get the shots. In fact she was aittle mad at me because I have a phone that takes good pictures and she doesn't. We also need to remember one this this is a cell phone to a thousand dollar nikon that is built to only take pictures. In the end this is a phone it is to answer and make calls and for it to take the picture that it does is amazing. They are almost better than my nikon and that thing is huge. Just my 2 centz.
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A d these kids were moving and squirming all over the place.
I disagree that there's a problem with the camera in the note 4. It's just the nature of an auto setting.
The low aperture allows for a higher shutter speed. Thus less motion blur.
However, in low light situations with a fixed aperture, the iso will rise and shutter speed will drop naturally in an auto setting like on our phones.
And to the pper talking about shutter delay, when you use the flash on a cell phone it will always take a little longer. It sucks and I noticed the note 4 does have a slightly longer delay with the flash being used than some other phones.
If you want total control over all lighting situations and thus little to no motion blur, buy a dslr and some good lenses. You can't expect perfection from a cell phone.
EDIT: sorry, saw you were talking about normal lighting conditions after I posted. I haven't noticed a problem with this with mine in good lighting. My bad!
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If it was not already painfully obvious to any of us with children, the movement of subjects using both the Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy Note Edge camera results in CONSTANT blurry photos.
EDIT: If anyone can get any subject frozen in motion, please let me know. There may be some defective camera in these phones, but I have not seen any still shots in sports mode of any people caught in movement yet. None.
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You're right they're all blurry... the subject doesn't even need to be in motion... it's software bcos fine detail is being lost.
I have a pic of my cat just sitting on the floor and you can't even make out his nose, and his fur is missing all detail, whereas the floor around him has more detail and is generally sharp.
I have another where he's walking and he's all blurry whereas his surrounds are sharp.
It's like they've totally gone over board with NR.
I dont understand why there aren't way more complaints. Could we have defective cameras? Ones that have the wrong apeture settings?
Are you guys on stock rom?
Stock rooted here.
If it's within 14 days you can exchange it. I'm suprised no one else has any input. I wouldn't make a full conclusion on 2 guys cameras are other parts and 2 guys cameras are good. We need more data.
I am an Australian user and facing same issue.
Close up pics are sharp. Long shots are blurry.
Camera also seems to loose focus.
I have tried all troubleshooting tips.
And no I do not have shaky hands
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I also have the exact same problem as OP, have resorted to using camera in sports mode even for any slightly moving objects as otherwise pics are blurry
I don't have this problem. I have never used sport mode and the pictures taken with my Note 4 are not blurry.
Just made some tests with my Note 4 camera because of this thread. I have to admit, that I rarely use my phone camera, as I have always a system camera with me.
If you want to take a picture of people that are not moving much, you should have a shutter speed of at least 1/60s, if you have moving kids, I'd recommend 1/200s or more. I just took some test shots indoors (evening, only artificial light source) and noticed the Note 4 is limited to ISO 800 max, which results in slow shutter speeds like 1/17s in my conditions. I also tried sports mode, but as the camera is already at its limit, this does not speed up the shutter any more.
If you use the LED flash, the camera will decrease the ISO and keep the shutter speed still slow to decrease noise. The only way to speed up the shutter is to set ISO to 800 fix and force the LED flash. You will sure have more noise in your image, but less motion blur. To speed up even more, you can under expose by one step (EV -1), which will result in a darker image but shutter speed is additionally increased. Unfortunately the noise will get more visible in darker areas as well.
In low light the OIS does a good job as long as there are no moving subjects, but for moving subjects under bad light conditions the Note 4 camera is imho not capable of getting the job done.
I'm using the N910F (Qualcomm), not sure if the Exynos is using a different camera module.
This could be fixed in lolipop. They are opening up restriction in the camera. Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel. Pardon the pun.
HDR related?
I was getting blurry shots in reasonable lighting conditions, until I turned off HDR mode. That seemed to fix the issue for me, and increased the speed a little too.
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Don't use stock camera app. Use example Camera FV-5 for settings - use flash and 800 ISO. Use flash in night mode.
Same for video - author made app for vids too.
I use these apps in SGS II, where in stock camera I couldn't set plenty of things, where in Camera FV-5 I can.
I agree with you. I tried to take a picture and my subject wasnt moving at all and it all blurry. Im not that noob at taking a picture.. fix it please.
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I agree with your assessment. Also how can we speed up the shutter speed taking a picture with flash? I press the button and seconds later it takes the picture by then I've lost the shot.
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Same problem here after talking shots it shows the pics but after restart the cell pictures lost y y y???
I'm having the same issues, all my closeup pics are great, anything over 5 feet away is completely blurry. I'm on a Sprint phone, well past the 14 days for exchange. This is unacceptable. I can post examples.
Hello. So, there has been a confusion on how to capture better photos and videos on Nexus 5. With the introduction of Android Lollipop we have the option to shoot RAW photos (which is basically the same as before, with the difference being that the image is not compressed or processed), and also we got a great app which is called L Camera..
L Camera was a great alternative for those who wanted to squeeze out as much as Nexus 5's camera has to offer. We even got to shoot at 1080p/60fps(although it was never fixed to work properly) and a resolution very close to 4K.
I hoped that since Google unlocked all this power for us with Lollipop, Marshmallow was going to bring even better stuff on the table. This does not seem to be the case though.
So, right now we are basically stuck in terms of camera options. The L Camera has been outdated, problematic and unsupported for quite some while now and Google's stock camera is still really bad.
How do you feel about all this guys? Have you found any better camera app than L Camera that works on Marshmallow? Are you building something yourselves? (maybe and improved version of L Camera)
Let's discuss this!
There is this "Manual Camera", "Camera FV-5", and "Open Camera"
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
I use Proshot, really great camera app.
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This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
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Got to agree. I notice especially low light performance has improved greatly on the stock camera app on marshmallow. Not sure what Google has done but good job on them for doing it. It still responses like crap and lags some times but if the pictures are better I am all for it.
Stock app is much better its what I call serviceable now. I always knew the Nexus 5s camera was capable but poor software always held it back. Sad to see it took almost 3 years after it launched to become capable.
Open camera is also a great app and 100% free and open source
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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The lens is prone to gather grease from you fingers causing a hazy streaky look. I always bring a microfiber cloth to clean it off before shooting.
There isnt a proper RAW color profile available so it takes work to get images to pop like the JPEGs do. One of these days I'l generate one, it requires shooting a colorchecker chart outside in clear mid-day.
I haven't taken much pictures with it but this one.
I have a 6S and iPhone 5, I had lost my iPhone 5 out of stupidity. I wanted a cheap replacement and heard good things about the nexus, I had already tried the Galaxy s5 and htc one m8 so might as well kill 2 birds with one stone a good cheap phone and a chance to try out the nexus 5. Very impressed so far, very smooth. Runs much smoother then the galaxies I had. Ran me $160 CAD and it's unlocked
I decided to take a picture last night with the nexus. Came out amazing, took some other low lighting shots in my room and compared it to my 6s and it isn't that bad to be completely honest much better then my s5, Note edge and htc in low lighting.
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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I have a simple checklist I go through when processing raw photos: exposure, white balance and NR if needed. I rarely need anything else so for a single shot I'm normally done in less than a minute. Raw converters offer many options which can seem overwhelming for the novice, but there's nothing to it if you stick to the most important ones. OTOH if you are working on an uncalibrated monitor there's a small chance are you might be making things worse color-wise. I don't do HDR, sorry.
Snap camera? I threw it under system/apps, changed the name to camera2.apk and even the power button hot key works.
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"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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prog19 said:
"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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I'm enjoying "A Better Camera" too. It's really simple to use and produces nice photos. But I still prefer Camera FV-5 over it when I need manual setings.
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The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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And output any dng to full resolution.
The sad thing about LR is the import picture method
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If you would like to see a video review of the app just let me know.
PROSHOT REVIEW
So I just wanna update and say that I bought all the above apps trying them out for an hour or so. I refunded them all and decided on ProShot! Below are my pros and cons of using ProShot, I'm only reviewing this one because it's the one I stuck with and liked the most
PROS
Very Beautiful UI, the buttons respond immediately to my presses and most with subtle but nice animations.
Settings are very organized, The Manual camera features are all feel accessible without feeling overwhelming or cluttering the User interface.
Hidden Manual Focal Length, It comes in handy since the Nexus 6P doesn't always know how to lock onto the focus properly
Custom Settings Presets, haven't used it yet but you can have 2 presets for your custom settings.
Easily Crop Photos, the settings lives at the top of the screen change between different aspect ratios (which I use often)
The work space, I mentioned before the wonderful UI but you also get a amount of space to work with because of all of the transparent elements in the User Interface.
Special features, Exposure bracketing, timelapse, and a cool one (Light Painting) light painting is still in beta and is extremely buggy but once it shifts out of beta I could see it being my favorite feature!
Cons
The Auto Focus, tapping the screen to auto focus does not work currently in manual mode
Manual Exposure, I believe the dev posted hear saying it was a google bug but right now the feature simply does not work.
The Gallery, there's a gallery button in the corner but the images are very slow to load. Use your personal gallery app.
Updates, The app is a little slow to receive updates. I would love for Light Paint to come out of beta.
Final Thoughts
The app is pretty amazing and very polished. One of the most polished of all the Manual Camera Apps I have tested. It has enough features to keep you satisfied in the mean time while waiting for the updates to come. I mentioned has a beautiful transparent UI which allows your much more working space than other apps. The special features are fun to tinker with and with time lapse you and video recording you don't have to download a separate app to do those things.
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Was super excited with the Camera2 API back in the Nexus 5 days
Now that I have a Nexus 6P, what are the best Manual Camera apps? I'm mostly lean towards UI & features but the question is, what do you guys recommend for manual camera picture taking goodness?
Thanks!
Proshots
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Camera FV-5, really good app! You should try it!
I like proshot, haven't used fv5 in a while
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ProShot is complete and has a friendly UI. I prefer it because I can adjust everything with a couple of tap. However you can try the demo
I`m not that pro about photos and sensors...
If I use proshot the HDR+ will be turn on always?
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I`m not that pro about photos and sensors...
If I use proshot the HDR+ will be turn on always?
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Hi! I'm the dev of ProShot. HDR+ is not available yet, and HDR only works on certain devices (mostly Samsung and Motorola from what I've seen). I'm working on my own version of HDR, but don't have a solid timeline on when it will be ready.
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Hi! I'm the dev of ProShot. HDR+ is not available yet, and HDR only works on certain devices (mostly Samsung and Motorola from what I've seen). I'm working on my own version of HDR, but don't have a solid timeline on when it will be ready.
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Thank You very much! I was really wondering about that!
I will keep it with proshot! Just wish that this feature was included!
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Hi! I'm the dev of ProShot. HDR+ is not available yet, and HDR only works on certain devices (mostly Samsung and Motorola from what I've seen). I'm working on my own version of HDR, but don't have a solid timeline on when it will be ready.
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Kudos bro, an amazing app. I have been recommending this to everyone.
Used the pay version of manual camera last night here were some of the results! No edits
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Proshot. If you have kids running around it's the best. Proshot is the only one I've found that can do shutter priority. Every other camera2 compatible app I've seen forces manual iso with manual shutter (full manual mode). Proshot can do manual shutter with auto iso. I think it's a hack bc it doesn't always hit the set shutter speed perfectly but it works well and gets close. Decent interface too.
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Proshot. If you have kids running around it's the best. Proshot is the only one I've found that can do shutter priority. Every other camera2 compatible app I've seen forces manual iso with manual shutter (full manual mode). Proshot can do manual shutter with auto iso. I think it's a hack bc it doesn't always hit the set shutter speed perfectly but it works well and gets close. Decent interface too.
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Yep it is a hack Glad you like it, I wasn't going to launch ProShot without it.
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ProShot is complete and has a friendly UI. I prefer it because I can adjust everything with a couple of tap. However you can try the demo
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does the demo version have all features enabled? cuz camera fv-5 has a lite version which put everything behind a paywall, meaning you couldn't test it out.
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Used the pay version of manual camera last night here were some of the results! No edits
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they shots look decent, did you leave the default settings or not? (like aperture, exposure, exposure bracketing, etc.)
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Yep it is a hack Glad you like it, I wasn't going to launch ProShot without it.
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could you explain what about the auto ISO feature doesn't always work? also will it become a usable feature? honestly I'm just searching for a camera app but they all require you to pay before you try.
drago10029 said:
could you explain what about the auto ISO feature doesn't always work? also will it become a usable feature? honestly I'm just searching for a camera app but they all require you to pay before you try.
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What do you mean it doesn't always work? If the shutter is a few ticks above or below the selected value it's likely a rounding error in the displayed EXIF. Say you choose 1/25 but it appears as 1/24. The actual value is probably 1/24.999.
Alternatively, say you choose a shutter speed like 1/2000. These phones aren't precise and the image sensor might expose the scene for 1/1997s. That value is stored in the EXIF not as a fraction, but as nanoseconds: 500751ns. ProShot's camera roll then tries to convert that value back to some human-readable fraction, and through some guesswork and approximation might display 1/1989s.
Hope that clears it up!
Can you please explain what setting are you using in proshot to get the best results when the subject is moving fast like kids or dogs?
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does the demo version have all features enabled? cuz camera fv-5 has a lite version which put everything behind a paywall, meaning you couldn't test it out.
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There are some limits on the demo version; you can use full manual controls but the pics are watermarked. I wish I didn't have to do this, but man piracy is really bad on Android. The app took almost a year of my life from me so it's sad to see so many people stealing.
The current demo is a bit out of date and buggy. I'll be releasing a new version tomorrow fixing a lot of lingering issues (as well as bug fixes for the main app).
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Can you please explain what setting are you using in proshot to get the best results when the subject is moving fast like kids or dogs?
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It's going to depending on your lighting, but throwing ProShot in either Manual, C1, or C2 with ISO set to AUTO and a shutter between 1/60-1/100 will do a great job of freezing motion so you won't get blurry faces. If you're indoors in a dimly lit space dropping to 1/30 is probably the lowest I'd go, though you will get some blur then. And always keep flash off
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What do you mean it doesn't always work? If the shutter is a few ticks above or below the selected value it's likely a rounding error in the displayed EXIF. Say you choose 1/25 but it appears as 1/24. The actual value is probably 1/24.999.
Alternatively, say you choose a shutter speed like 1/2000. These phones aren't precise and the image sensor might expose the scene for 1/1997s. That value is stored in the EXIF not as a fraction, but as nanoseconds: 500751ns. ProShot's camera roll then tries to convert that value back to some human-readable fraction, and through some guesswork and approximation might display 1/1989s.
Hope that clears it up!
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someone named nsmal, above said the auto iso feature didn't work properly, was he referring to what you just explained or something different? and thanks for the explanation, and i understand piracy is an issue definitely, I'm just concerned with buying a app that didn't suit me but I will def take the watermarked version for a run tomorrow since you say it's full featured
Also, MUCH MUCH RESPECT for not abusing the permissions! even the ones at that bottom no one really checks, much appreciation :good::good::victory:
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someone named nsmal, above said the auto iso feature didn't work properly, was he referring to what you just explained or something different? and thanks for the explanation, and i understand piracy is an issue definitely, I'm just concerned with buying a app that didn't suit me but I will def take the watermarked version for a run tomorrow since you say it's full featured
Also, MUCH MUCH RESPECT for not abusing the permissions! even the ones at that bottom no one really checks, much appreciation :good::good::victory:
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Probably what I explained, the rounding errors can be confusing haha. The demo update will probably go live late Tuesday night (USA time) so I'd say hold off til Wednesday to get the best impression :good:
I tried to keep the permissions as minimal as possible, but I might add analytics soon (simple data points like does anyone use the Light Painting mode? [to help guide my dev priorities]). That will require internet, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to add that in a way that doesn't make people upset :angel:
Hi Everybody,
To be honest, I am very much amazed by the Camera of One Plus 3, It takes amazing shots in low light(provided you adjust exposure)
I have been tinkering with my One Plus 3 Camera for a while and found the Manual Mode in 3.2.0 Update quite usefull.
Here are some of the Pictures taken with My Device,
1. Macro Shot
https://imgur.com/84HjJ1X
Camera Used: Google Camera Manual Focus
Exposure time Auto
ISO Auto
After Pic Editing- Used Big lens to increase Depth of Field.
2. Low Light Night Photography
https://imgur.com/C2wHNaf
Camera App- Google Camera Focus set to infinity
Exposure time- 7/2500
ISO- 160
Cropped RAW DNG.
3. Low Light Long Exposure
https://imgur.com/4crrlMl
ISO 800
Exposure Time- 2 Sec
Edited RAW in Snapseed.
I plan to capture milky way, But I live in a city. Too much light Pollution
So Here are some of the apps I would recommend.
Proshot Pro for manual settings
Biglens for DSLR like DOF
Snapseed- Raw Editing
I just purchased proshot and had to refund it because it's so buggy. I've never seen an app with so many issues. ?
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EP2008 said:
I just purchased proshot and had to refund it because it's so buggy. I've never seen an app with so many issues. ?
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Works fine for me. Sometime changing the exposure leads to black screen. But I just restart the app
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Works fine for me. Sometime changing the exposure leads to black screen. But I just restart the app
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Black screen, crazy issues with zooming, the UI breaks (icons get all jumbled up and the viewfinder has fragments of frozen images), changing ISO doesn't give any preview so you don't know if the image is too light or what.
One thing that did work was the ability to turn image stabilization on and off at will.
Any difference using the one plus camera app with manual mode?
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Any difference using the one plus camera app with manual mode?
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If you know how to use a camera in manual mode, it can change everything even if you don't have the aperture settings.
If you are talking about the noise treatment or sharpening, it don't change anything.
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This one really amazed my... I never thought a mobile cam will do this
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View attachment 3833903This one really amazed my... I never thought a mobile cam will do this
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Which camera app and what settings did you use for this one?
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My OnePlus camera behave erratic while focussing,if the shutter speed and ISO is changed..is it an issue wid my mobile or is the frame rate low?its almost unusable..sorry if it's a noob ques, don't know much abt manual mode
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Which camera app and what settings did you use for this one?
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I used default camera app. Image was taken in raw. Then did post-processing using Adobe light room
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Shot a night sky with a lot of stars in a pitch black night.
Exposure Time 30sec
Iso 1600
Focus Manual to Infinite
Layed the device flat down on a surface with the back facing up and used the volume button as the shutter.
Note this is a jpeg wihtout editing or anything just the post processing the device does.
Manual mode OOS Camera (OOS 3.2.2) :
ISO 800
Focus : Infinite
Exposure Time : 30s
Layed the device flat down on a surface with the back facing up and used the volume button as the shutter.
In a pitch black night (new moon), in the country
Milky Way :
Here is the original RAW converted to JPEG (max quality) :
And here the RAW after post-processing in Adobe Lightroom converted to JPEG (max quality)
I'm impressed about the camera's quality !
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Manual mode OOS Camera (OOS 3.2.2) :
I'm impressed about the camera's quality !
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Very nice results indeed with a phone and such a small lens. Stacking more raw pics of the same sky area before processing with lightroom/photoshop should help to reduce the noise.
On windows DeepSkyStacker is great for stacking.
I would love myself to experiment with different cameras apps/different processing however it seems (at least the last time I tried on OOS) that only the stock camera allows slow exposure up to 30s.
Anyone tried with cm and the latest camera improvements ? I know the OOS stock camera has some issues on custom roms but what about 'Snap' camera ?
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Very nice results indeed with a phone and such a small lens. Stacking more raw pics of the same sky area before processing with lightroom/photoshop should help to reduce the noise.
On windows DeepSkyStacker is great for stacking.
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Thanks for the advice, it's the first time I shot the Milky Way, I didn't know that such software exist
But I didn't understand the part about Flats (PLU), can you explain it to me please ?
Btw I tested all the ISO, and my favourites are 800 and 1600 to do night photographies.
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Thanks for the advice, it's the first time I shot the Milky Way, I didn't know that such software exist
But I didn't understand the part about Flats (PLU), can you explain it to me please ?
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Hi. Well there are a lot of settings and options in this software. It's generally used with DSLR and telescopes. You can ignore flats and darks for now and only stack the 'lights' frames.
I suggest to read the faq on Deepskystacker website.
There are other techniques for stacking, using only photoshop for example. I reckon Deepskystacker is probably overkill for mobile astrophotography.
I have some astrophotography experience with a DSLR and a telescope but never tried with a smartphone. Mainly because smartphone cameras were pretty bad until recently, also long time exposure is relatively new on mobiles.
Have a look at this article too.
http://www.lonelyspeck.com/photographing-the-milky-way-with-a-smartphone/
I will try myself to experiment when I have some free time and clear skies.
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Okay,
I took again few photos last night, with the same parameters as before.
This time, I used the noise reduction technic, with image stacking (Photoshop, 5 pictures) (Thanks @ _Man0waR_ for the tip )
Here is my first night photography with this technic. I took others with ISO 1600 but I didn't have the time yet to do the post-processing ^^
Here is the original RAW picture (ISO 800, 30s exposure, Infinite Focus) :
Here is the stacked RAW (5 pictures) :
Great noise reduction !
And here the processed RAW (I wanted a more natural look as the previous one) :
Very nice shooting of the Lyra and Cygnus region It's impressive considering it was totally impossible to take this kind of pictures not so long ago with just a phone.
Stacking definitely helped to reduce the noise.
You should try to shoot the Sagittarius area (if you can, it's quite low in the sky). Adding some foreground, trees,mountains can make some really artistic pictures I suppose.
Well done !
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Very nice shooting of the Lyra and Cygnus region It's impressive considering it was totally impossible to take this kind of pictures not so long ago with just a phone.
Stacking definitely helped to reduce the noise.
You should try to shoot the Sagittarius area (if you can, it's quite low in the sky). Adding some foreground, trees,mountains can make some really artistic pictures I suppose.
Well done !
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Thanks
Yes, I want to try to shoot another area of the sky but I don't have a tripod to hold the phone yet. I actually just put the phone on a car's roof Yeah it's artisanal
But I'm considering buying a trepod, the photography interest me more and more, and I would be able to shoot the sky not only vertically ! And other landscapes ^^
Ohh wow, oh wow.
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Woderfull, more please. Dessert at night? or am I asking too much?