Database Develop

X1 battery charger, directly to the battery?

Would anyone know of a battery charger that will charge the X1 battery, without it being inside the phone?
It would need the charging circuitry, to at least stop charging once the battery is full. I have seen stands for other models, in which the phone also gets charged with a slot for a second battery, but since the X1 charges from the top left and not the bottom, this layout wouldn't be attractive to suppliers in principle.

paul c said:
would anyone know of a battery charger that will charge the x1 battery, without it being inside the phone?
It would need the charging circuitry, to at least stop charging once the battery is full. I have seen stands for other models, in which the phone also gets charged with a slot for a second battery, but since the x1 charges from the top left and not the bottom, this layout wouldn't be attractive to suppliers in principle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cbc-100
ep900

i believe its the CBC-200 http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/cbc-200#view=overview
and ep900 http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/ep900#view=overview
the difference is the connector it uses. CBC-200 is the fastport connector
while the ep900 is the microusb connector
both charge the x1/x2's BST-41 battery

Thanks very much Reversedhex, Jonny4911
Whilst looking for the EP900, I came across this: http://www.octilus.com/cargador-sobremesa-y-sincronizacion-sony-ericsson-xperia-p-150426.html
as you can see, it syncs/charges the phone, and can also charge a battery on its own (but not both at the same time), with a LED to indicate charge. €30, may give it a go if I can't track down the EP900
and here (in English) http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-dual-desktop-charging-cradle-p17830.htm

Well I couldn't find anyone to sell me the SE spare battery charger, which is a shame, but I bought the stand-charger-spare battery charger from Mobile Fun.
It comes with a wall charger that connects via mini-USB to the stand itself. There is a space to charge the spare battery (the battery goes "face-down") and a holder for the phone, plus a cable that charges the phone directly.
It works well. The only negative points are extremely bright LEDs to indicate the stand is plugged in, and charging. Not a good idea for the bedside table... but resolved with some insulation tape over the LEDs.
Secondly, it does charge the phone as expected if you plug the phone in then unplug the spare battery, but the LED battery status light does not change colour immediately.
So in short, it's a good piece of kit.

I have the cbc-200 i bought it off of amazon from germany for £30. To be honest its designed well but its not particulary strong plastic. Certainly not £30 worth of plastic anyway, its pretty handy and i had a fastport charger from my p1i anyway so i use that. The only problem is if u leave the battery in it wen its not charging the red flashing light discarges the battery. Which isnt very helpful. Especially wen your in the lake district miles away from any electrical source. Hope this is useful to someone. B

Nice Info..
Thanks everybody

If you happen to be in Madrid - Octilus have the charger/spare battery charger on sale for €16.95
I may just buy it, since the one I bought from Mobile Fun back in Jan doesn't charge the spare battery directly any more...

I bought one from ebay, it was new and unused and bundled with a non original battery, it was only 9 dolars (6.5 euros) including shipping. It came from hong kong if i recall well. The battery lasts much less than the original but it was definatelly worth it. In short, there are solutions to your problem

Nexus S Replacement Battery 1500 mAh with charger

Nexus S is a great smart phone, however, like all other touch screen smart phones, the battery of the phone runs out within a day of usage. And if you do not have a charger or the time to charge the phone in the middle of a journey or in office, you surely run out of luck.
Fret not, because there is the Nexus S replacement battery (1500mAh) that can come to the rescue. This 1500 mAh battery comes with a USB/AC charging cradle that can be plugged to the power outlet. All you need to do is to insert the battery in the charger, plug it to the power outlet and done. Once the battery is charged, you can use it with the phone.
Since this is a replacement battery, it does not come with the Samsung branding. However, the battery looks identical to the stock one.
Besides charging the replacement battery, the AC charging cradle can also charge the battery in the Nexus S phone. Thus, you can charge two batteries at one go. Once in charging mode, the USB/AC cradle displays blue light.
I used the battery with our Nexus S phone and were quite impressed with its juice. The battery almost lasted for a day with use of phone, 3G and music playback. And this replacement battery surely makes sense with 3G services now live your phone will be more hungry.
Available from dealextreme.com for just $8.30 (Rs.370) with free shipping, you can buy one yourself by visiting the product page here.
Specifications
Specifications:Battery charger input: AC100~240V 50/60Hz 0.15A
- Battery charger output: DC4.2V~350mA~±50mA, USBC5.2V 800mA
- Battery charger with 2-flat pin plug
- 3.7V/1500mAh Li-ion battery included
- Compatible with Samsung i9020/Google Nexus S
Check out the zip file for the images.

I'm skeptical about generic "made in China" stuff. But thanks for the review.

I have the same exact battery wall charger, it broke in about a week or two. The pins that touch the battery somehow snapped off. I would'nt recommend it

Connection S said:
I'm skeptical about generic "made in China" stuff. But thanks for the review.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eh? Many products are made in China including products from well-known companies. Your post seems very racist and stereotypical.

zephiK said:
Eh? Many products are made in China including products from well-known companies. Your post seems very racist and stereotypical.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i disagree, made in china, and 8 bucks, aftermarket product i wont be buying. made in china and oem for samsung (just an example) then it should be ok.
nothing racist about it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070066
Cheaper, better, OEM. Case closed.

Why do wall chargers take forever to charge battery?

Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?

could be the amp? maybe below 1 amp? Samsung charger has 2amps om it. check your charger and look for the amp. btw. the lower the amp the better for your battery..

Buy an OEM charger. The Samsung one is $50 from Samsung website but you can get the Asus charger from Google play store for $25. Both are two ampbi believe. Or you can get the 1a for $25 from samsung. Getting OEM directly from an OEM or authorized reseller or a storefront lime Google is key. Getting cheap chargers is gonna bite you in the ass one day or think about it like this. Why keep wasting time buying cheap chargers again and again when you can put up proper money and get quality in one go and have peace of mind for a few years. I even stopped buying chargers from amazon because they're just cheap knockoffs too. Phi hong makes good chargers and power supplies but they are harder to source. Phi hong came with my nexus one andy galaxy nexus OEM Home dock.
Anyways, aside from that part of the reason for slow charging is you probably have an unsafe charger that is not rated what it really is and is made of poor materials. Getting a quality 1a or higher, preferably 2a in this case and your gnote2 should charge @ 1.8a. In other words, you can charge from zero to full in ~2-2.5 hours. Or from partially full to 100% in less than 2 easily.
Sent from my GT-N7100

Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.

Yes...charging just the battery with wall charger.
@ 40% it will not be charged at 6am when I wake!!!
Are there better wall chargers?

Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
dan_tm said:
Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

rockky said:
Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not for the phone, for me. It just bothers me having a wireless device locked to a wall. There's no reason for it. And I frequently get up in the night for various reasons (kids, work, insomnia, etc), and it bugs me unplugging in the middle of a charge cycle.
Incidentally, a non-removable battery was a deal breaker, and one of the reasons I didn't get a Nexus 4. I got used to never plugging in my last phone, and I don't want to go back. It was torture the first week or two with the N2 before my spare batteries arrived.

The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.

scote said:
The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It looks like the OEM battery charger is available on ebay for around $15. That's good to know in case mine ever crap out on me. These cheapies that I get tend to.
As far as the back cover getting loose, after 3 months, it is a little bit looser than when it was new. 1.5 years with my G2x didn't loosen it at all, but the build quality on that thing was fantastic. I keep this in a case anyway, so it being a little looser goes unnoticed. If it gets bad, back cover replacements are cheap.

If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But what is the point of having it charge fast, when all it is is going to drain faster?
I charge mine overnight with a charger rated at 750mah I believe and it last me a whole day. As oppose to using a 2.1 am charger I have, where the battery percentage would start dropping by the first hour.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is what I've notice with my last few phones.

The Perseus kernel with stweaks has the ability to change the charging parameters.
With it overclocked/undervolted I am getting better life than I did on stock.
Not for sure what you mean as it depleting the charge faster on a higher amperage charger. Kind of sounds like you may have had failing batteries, etc.

There seem to be a few misunderstandings here regarding batteries and chargers.
1) The charge rate, when the battery is in the phone, is controlled BY the phone. The charger itself just supplies regulated power to the phone. How much current is put into the battery at any given time is up to the phone, which is why kernels can do things like fast charge, it's controlled by the kernel. Now, the reason the battery charges faster when using the stock charger vs. something lower current or a computer is simple. The phone can detect what it's connected to within some limitations. It sounds like our phone can also sense the incoming voltage levels and back off if the supply becomes unstable.
2) Using the stock 2A charger is "harder" on the battery than a lower current charger. Not true, at least not within any margin of error you will be able to detect without specialized equipment. Lipo batteries are generally built to charge/discharge at 1C. C in this case stands for capacity. So our 3100mah batteries can charge at 3.1Amp and be within safety margin. So the 2Amp charger the phone comes with is perfectly fine for the battery. Without seeing a datasheet for the battery from Samsung, that's a good guess. And again, the phone controls the charge current based on a number of parameters. You could connect the phone to a 5V supply capable of 100Amp and it will still only use what it needs.
3) The percentage readout on the phone screen is a GUESS. Don't pay it too much attention. For this same reason, evaluating 3rd party batteries based on phone runtime etc is not useful. To validate the battery capacity with any accuracy requires a test setup discharging the battery through a known load and measuring how long it takes to get to a cutoff voltage. I've done some of these tests myself on stock and 3rd party batteries. In general, the OEM batteries are always at or above spec, the 3rd party battery manufacturers lie. Often by upward of 20%. Even the high $ batteries. Keep that in mind when shopping if you want extras or extended batteries.
4) Interrupting the charge cycle is bad. Nope. It's fine. On this same line of thought, full cycles ARE bad. Don't do it. Don't think too much about it either though. Just plug it in when convenient. Or set it on the wireless charger if you've installed one. Generally speaking, they actually don't like to be charged to 100% either. Keeping it at 20%-80% is actually best for the longevity of the battery cell itself. In practice, you will probably have a new phone before any of this is actually noticeable.
The OP sounds like they are talking about a stand-alone charger, where the battery is not in the phone. Those will vary wildly in quality and capability, particularly from ebay. They are probably cheap POS devices. Not that that's really a bad thing, just know about it. It's probably a very low charge rate device, perhaps even down to 100ma or so. That would take forever to charge our larger batteries. As for if there is a better one, probably. If Samsung makes one, it will probably charge faster than the phone with the provided charger plug as there would be no load from the phone using power. Of course, it will cost a lot more as well. Look for devices that at least claim they will charge at 2Amp or so. In practice, they will probably be a lot lower, but your chances are improved. Not many people will break out an ammeter and check, after all.

UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.

What ttabbal wrote is mostly correct. But the problem lies within some input voltage protection logic tied to the charger chip of the phone which is extremely (and too much so) sensitive.
rsalan said:
Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can people stop calling it fast-charge, it's an idiotic term which technically means nothing. While most kernels have some sort of charging speed configuration options, they're all useless in regard to this problem as the current in the end is decided by a different logic. You'll have to disable unstable power detection and that's the only way to make it work and fix the problem, unless you go hunting down high quality cables and chargers.
Personally I also encountered the problem as my stock S3 charger, as many others here have reported, has deteriorated and it would only charge at an effective 300mA. I disabled unstable power detection and now it charges at the full given current limits, without any issues.

rockky said:
Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to make sure it's "2a" charger capacity. It happened to me once. Go to monoprice.com and search for a universal 2a charger... pretty cheap

[Not a post about battery life] What keeps killing my ACTUAL PHYSICAL battery?

So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

buzzwyzr said:
So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your batteries (#1 and #2) were not damaged by your usage pattern. They were bad quality period. And now you are paranoid about that. Those two batteries being bad does not surprise me at all because the inherent longevity of a battery is closely related to how well controlled the manufacturing process is, and we know how well that process is controlled for Chinese cheap batteries.
Modern batteries and chargers are built in a way that make them relatively immune to user abuse. Your battery lives for a certain number of charges and discharges. For a good battery from a reputable manufacturer that is around 500 to 1500 times. There is also a second order effect that if you recharge the battery before it completely dies it lives marginally longer. That is about it. The stuff you mentioned didn't cause your batteries to die. The poor manufacturing condition in a sweat shop in China did.

I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.

akholicc said:
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay. Its my bad then. But i always notice that my phone heats up more when i use turbo charger. And heat is never good for these batteries.

The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see thanks for clearing things up. I saw those videos and images of nexus 6 with all those popped batteries and back covers. I have been afraid of its heating up since then. So i can use it without worrying about its battery and back cover?

I've had my Nexus 6 since the beginning of the year and have had no problems with it whatsoever. While there is no guarantee you won't encounter a problem, if your Nexus is relatively recent like mine you shouldn't have any issues.

Replacing the battery, and charging port.

Alright so I have had these replacement parts for a little while now and i have finally been fed up with the sucky charging/battery life. So I ordered the new battery and charging port, but the battery seems a little suspicious after inspection. The connecting cable that comes out of the battery to dock to the phone isn't securely attached to the battery itself. No physical problems have come from the charging port replacement. Is the battery replacement no good. Am i suppose to fasten the connection to the battery somehow? Just trying to figure this all out before i pull my phone apart, and waste my time. Quick responses would be greatly appreciated as I work during the day and this is my down time before bed.

brealz92 said:
Alright so I have had these replacement parts for a little while now and i have finally been fed up with the sucky charging/battery life. So I ordered the new battery and charging port, but the battery seems a little suspicious after inspection. The connecting cable that comes out of the battery to dock to the phone isn't securely attached to the battery itself. No physical problems have come from the charging port replacement. Is the battery replacement no good. Am i suppose to fasten the connection to the battery somehow? Just trying to figure this all out before i pull my phone apart, and waste my time. Quick responses would be greatly appreciated as I work during the day and this is my down time before bed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can you please verify if there was a recall for the note 5 battery. I just got the note 5 rooted and running latest kohngloi rom. I don't see any threads on recalls or people rma the device. I rma my previous device nexus 6p because of battery issues and got a full refund. I will also contact samsung and see what they say.

More detail.
To be more specific the docking cable on the battery {manufacturer-stalion Li-Ion poymer batter 3.85V
3000mAh 11.55Wh Model:EB-BN92GABE} slides in and out of its i suppose rightful location. Is it suppose to detach from the battery itself.?

Not an easy job changing the charging port as the soft keys are between the digitizer.
I just replaced my battery with one from eBay and it's working great. My charging port is fine but I use a nokia dt-900 wireless charger
Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk