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Hi i have an idea for better battery durability and reduce the heat emitted.i want to change the processor's clock speed.
I think that 1-1.2 ghz is enough for good performance but i don't have rooted my phone yet so could anyone try to change the clock speed and wrote what about the battery drain and heat emitted by cpu?
Thanks!
ebreo said:
Hi i have an idea for better battery durability and reduce the heat emitted.i want to change the processor's clock speed.
I think that 1-1.2 ghz is enough for good performance but i don't have rooted my phone yet so could anyone try to change the clock speed and wrote what about the battery drain and heat emitted by cpu?
Thanks!
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I'm so glad that you had that idea, because nobody else has EVER thought about doing that
How about you search the forum and look at one of the many, many threads where this sort of thing is discussed instead of asking us to write the same thing over and over again :banghead:
i didn't find anything about that if you can pls share link with those threads or whatever like this
check this out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
Here you got my experience - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35517636&postcount=30
ok thanks @danie.wro i have read whole topic and i guess does it this app useful?
i want use all 4 cores but clocking down theirs cores to 1gzh or 1.2ghz in term of battery saving and heat will be change anything for sure?
another question is regular that overnight my phone lost about 15-20% of battery doing nothing?
Try to use CPU-Tuner. I use that and it's very useful.
thanks you too, but this app is for rooted phone instead gearbox runs on no rooted phone too i tried quadrant benchmark and i had lower score, let we see if this change something in term of battery drain and heat emitted xD
ok i have tried and i have positive feelings the battery withstand more time about 15-20% with clock speed set on 1ghz and 4 cores, and power saver with 1 core on 1ghz, but the heat emitted by battery hasn't changed much...
I have a question does NFC take a lot of power?
ebreo said:
ok i have tried and i have positive feelings the battery withstand more time about 15-20% with clock speed set on 1ghz and 4 cores, and power saver with 1 core on 1ghz, but the heat emitted by battery hasn't changed much...
I have a question does NFC take a lot of power?
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I'm guessing by the facts that it has a lower signal range than Bluetooth it uses less power than Bluetooth but still is a considerably big battery consumer.
Hey guys I need help here please, My nexus 6 temperature seems weird so I need to confirm with someone has the Nexus 6
I need to test the CPU and Battery temperature in 3 cases 1-out of deep sleep 2-normal usage like surfing on chrome 3-heavy usage Antutu test can achive that
You can use CPU Temp it will give you all the readings for battery and CPU in graph if you leave it running in the background
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp
It would be great if someone would help with this because I will to send the phone to Motorola UK next week for them to repair it if my phone temp is not normal
Thanks in advance
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Hey guys I need help here please, My nexus 6 temperature seems weird so I need to confirm with someone has the Nexus 6
I need to test the CPU and Battery temperature in 3 cases 1-out of deep sleep 2-normal usage like surfing on chrome 3-heavy usage Antutu test can achive that
You can use CPU Temp it will give you all the readings for battery and CPU in graph if you leave it running in the background
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp
It would be great if someone would help with this because I will to send the phone to Motorola UK next week for them to repair it if my phone temp is not normal
Thanks in advance
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i dont even know your temp and i can tell you its normal. if it goes above 70C, cpu temp, then thermal throttle sets in. if it hits 100C, your device will automatically shut down. anything below 40C is normal when not being used. anything below 100C is normal when being used. it will all depend how hard you are pushing your cpu. the harder you push it, the higher the temps will go.
there isnt a normal temp that it should be at, when in deep sleep, when being used, and when being used hard. there are too many variables to answer that correctly. so, there is no standard temp that it should be at.
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i dont even know your temp and i can tell you its normal. if it goes above 70C, cpu temp, then thermal throttle sets in. if it hits 100C, your device will automatically shut down. anything below 40C is normal when not being used. anything below 100C is normal when being used. it will all depend how hard you are pushing your cpu. the harder you push it, the higher the temps will go.
there isnt a normal temp that it should be at, when in deep sleep, when being used, and when being used hard. there are too many variables to answer that correctly. so, there is no standard temp that it should be at.
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I didn't need a standard temps I'm just asking to know if my temps are normal because my phone can get really hot with really simple tasks such as surfing the internet I'm talking about 50+ for the CPU which we can say that can be normal since I live in tropical country but what is not normal is the battery temepreture which most of the time above 38 to 43 and that makes the phone hot when I'm holding it
D3VI0US said:
I didn't need a standard temps I'm just asking to know if my temps are normal because my phone can get really hot with really simple tasks such as surfing the internet I'm talking about 50+ for the CPU which we can say that can be normal since I live in tropical country but what is not normal is the battery temepreture which most of the time above 38 to 43 and that makes the phone hot when I'm holding it
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50+ is normal. and your body temp is 37C, so your battery temp is not hot at all, but normal. your phone will shut down automatically if your battery temp reaches 60C(to cool off). the only way ive seen it reach that warm was with playing cpu intensive games while charging or by streaming a movie while charging.
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50+ is normal. and your body temp is 37C, so your battery temp is not hot at all, but normal. your phone will shut down automatically if your battery temp reaches 60C(to cool off). the only way ive seen it reach that warm was with playing cpu intensive games while charging or by streaming a movie while charging.
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You know what worries me is I compared it to the note 4 the exynos version in the same condition as my wife has it and it's running really cool and nowhere near to this temperatures I'm having on the nexus 6
D3VI0US said:
You know what worries me is I compared it to the note 4 the exynos version in the same condition as my wife has it and it's running really cool and nowhere near to this temperatures I'm having on the nexus 6
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samsung sets up their cpu much differently than how google does. the note 4 also has the same sized battery as the n6, but its battery lasts longer on average. google also adds in a cpu temp throttle, where samsung doesnt. and the cpu is completely different anyways.
D3VI0US said:
Hey guys I need help here please, My nexus 6 temperature seems weird so I need to confirm with someone has the Nexus 6
I need to test the CPU and Battery temperature in 3 cases 1-out of deep sleep 2-normal usage like surfing on chrome 3-heavy usage Antutu test can achive that
You can use CPU Temp it will give you all the readings for battery and CPU in graph if you leave it running in the background
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp
It would be great if someone would help with this because I will to send the phone to Motorola UK next week for them to repair it if my phone temp is not normal
Thanks in advance
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Sorry to dig up an old thread but I wanted to mention a problem with the app you mentioned:
It turns out that app you mentioned: cpu temperature is actually only reporting battery temperature! (I confirmed by observing that the single reported temperature matched my phones battery temperature and was far less than any of the four cpu temperatures reported by cpu-z).
I am curious if anyone knows of an app that will provide a trend of cpu temperature(s) over time, rather than displaying only the present-time cpu temperatures like cpu-z
When i play games like moderncombat5 i have 60fps but after a while the frames drop in some scenes where it didnt 3-5 minutes ago. When i check the cpu/gpu i can see that it throttles and causes these framedrops. But the phone doesnt get hot. Since it isnt possible to mess with thermal values at the moment. I wonder if there are some optimal cpu/gpu clocks where it will not throttle and performance will stay the same all time regardless of how much you stress the cpu/gpu. Because i'd rather have a underclocked cpu gpu than having thermal throttling while stressing the phone. On oneplus3 i didnt have this much thermal throttling playing mc5. I also feel the thermal throttling throttles way to early.
And yes i tried almost all kernels/roms out there it was a better experience on the op3
Thanks!
All CPUs have slight variations, some may be slightly more efficient than others of the same model. To get the best performance, you're going to have to underclock and test on your own phone bit by bit.
Anova's Origin said:
All CPUs have slight variations, some may be slightly more efficient than others of the same model. To get the best performance, you're going to have to underclock and test on your own phone bit by bit.
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I know i have pvs lvl 1 across the board thats why i wonder why i didnt have this issue on the oneplus3
nadejo said:
I know i have pvs lvl 1 across the board thats why i wonder why i didnt have this issue on the oneplus3
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What file did you open up to view that i looked a few months ago in the typical spots but found nothing.
954wrecker said:
What file did you open up to view that i looked a few months ago in the typical spots but found nothing.
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I dont remember. But it was hard to find. Anyways i found out that the cpu allways throttles down to little 1209 mhz and big 1440 mhz. When gpu is running on max clock. Will make further investigations now to find perfect cpu & gpu freq.
It seems regardless of what cpu profile / governor you use and regardless if the phone is charging or not. The cpu will allways throttle down to 1209 little and 1440 big. And the gpu also throttles but i can't monitor the exact values currently. This throttling even happens when gpu is running on min freq. And even when you set big or little cluster to min freq.
Im pretty sure the thermal throttling of the oneplus3 is broken. Because:
Thermal throttling should be decided by many factors. (General soc heat generated by gpu/cpu/and ram) also the system should be aware by the values and should handle it intelligently.)
It seems there is only one heatsensor used to throttle all at once and the throttling stops at 1209mhz little and 1440mhz big. If the temperature still rises the phone simply doesnt give a f*** why i think there isnt even a point of using this stock throttling method. And no its not accurate. And no its not usefull because, it throttles regardless what heat the phone has. Because it doesnt react to soc heat. It reacts to one of the components and throttles everything. Why it can't check the other temparatures aswell and throttle other components diffrently if even needed at all.
Issue: lets say little or big cluster is overheating because the cpu load is very high on it. (And no you wont see this throttling by simply running perf gov. It needs load/ working tasks on it, means you gotta play some heavy 3d games)
The thermal throttling just brakes down both clusters including the gpu. Was the big cluster or the gpu running cool? The thermal throttling doesn't give a f***. Could the loads/tasks been shared with or pushed to the big cluster. Thermal values dont care. Could some rly simple sort of hotplug turn the overhating little cluster off to let the big cluster do the rest before it rather throttles everything on the f... phone . -nope - Its annoying. Rly just try it out yourself. I really hope to see some improvements by oneplus. And no the phone is not bad at all. It's just some things are not optimized yet. Like touch latency which is worse than on galaxy s3 but i don't mind it just giving you an example so you can imagine how bad the thermal throttling must be.
Allways remember setting the cpu clock values so low that they dont throttle anymore doesnt mean gpu will throttle less often. All compenents will throttle without comparing other compents clock rate and heat.
My question: is the thermal throttling decided by the soc itself or are there different thermal throttling values on each phone brand using sd821?
And is it possible to port these values from lets say pixel phone?
I'm on cm13 and its kernel default is a bit lower than stock. I had the screen on full brightness and was charging the battery so temps above 100°. I played dead trigger 2 on highest settings on a level with lots of special effects and weapons with lots of splatter. Got throttled when the temp hit 103° everytime. I was running performance on cpu and gpu and i tested it without charging and still get throttled.
954wrecker said:
I'm on cm13 and its kernel default is a bit lower than stock. I had the screen on full brightness and was charging the battery so temps above 100°. I played dead trigger 2 on highest settings on a level with lots of special effects and weapons with lots of splatter. Got throttled when the temp hit 103° everytime. I was running performance on cpu and gpu and i tested it without charging and still get throttled.
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Im using laos 14.1 with latest ex kernel.
As is said thermal values are broken. Its not right to throttle down to same speed if charger is plugged as battery heat is higher and soc heat should be higher too. So i think it also throttles unnecesserily low without the charger being plugged.
Did any one find a solution to fix this?
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years of tired because of this ****ting throttling issue
Well do this at your own risk, go to system/vendor/bin and cut the file named "thermal-engine" to other directories in your sd card. This will completely disable thermal throttling. Perfect for gaming.?
Up up!!! This issues persists to me.. i even put my oneplus 3t in front of 8" fan for every gaming. Is there anyway to maintain the cpu frequency at higher rate during thermal throttling? I don't want to totally disable the thermal throttling... Seems unsafe... Enlighten me if you would
I think its time for gamer's to switch to a gaming oriented phone to avoid this thermal throttling and im looking forward to buy Black Shark which is Xiaomi backed gaming phone with custom rom (not miui) something different and that too is gaming focused hopefully it will be available globally soon ! :fingers-crossed:
J's said:
Up up!!! This issues persists to me.. i even put my oneplus 3t in front of 8" fan for every gaming. Is there anyway to maintain the cpu frequency at higher rate during thermal throttling? I don't want to totally disable the thermal throttling... Seems unsafe... Enlighten me if you would
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There is no risk if you disable thermal throttling, the CPU will shut itself down if its temperature reaches 100°C
przemcio510 said:
There is no risk if you disable thermal throttling, the CPU will shut itself down if its temperature reaches 100°C
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If i tilt my phone to the left for gaming, i will be burning my left thumb then.... even around cpu temp of 55.... My OnePlus 3T is gold in colour.. will it be better for heat dissipation if i change to midnight black?
LN2 + Copper pot. Should help.
J's said:
If i tilt my phone to the left for gaming, i will be burning my left thumb then.... even around cpu temp of 55.... My OnePlus 3T is gold in colour.. will it be better for heat dissipation if i change to midnight black?
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No, the color will have no impact, but it will be even worse when exposed to sun
przemcio510 said:
No, the color will have no impact, but it will be even worse when exposed to sun
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Thank you... Because the country i living is hot and humid throughout the year so i have to be extra careful ..
Any solution?
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Any solution?
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There's nothing you can do about the throtting, OP3T throttles @60°C tbh in just 10 mins of game play it starts throtting
You have 2 options here
1. Either disable thermal engine as suggested by someone above ( it basically boils your device forget about gaming, temps touchs to 98°C if msm thermal is disabled and around 60 to 75°c it msm thermal is enabled it's seriously hot to touch and high chances of damaging internals
2. Underclock the big cluster to 1209MHz or 1286MHz I tested both, while gaming (2 hrs of pubg @ medium settings) temp's are around 53 to 55°c and never reached 60°c no throtting ( but you know what, games still lag or you will get low fps due to lack of power Lol I'm sorry that's true there nothing you can do about it try playing games in air conditioned room or just buy gaming Phone like Razer they have good heat dissipation, you should not forget the fact that our device is 2 years old. Tbh on a 2 year old phones even optimized games too use lot of processing power which lead more heat. More heat = throttle
Hello guys, I've got the OnePlus 5T and I was looking to upgrade to the Red Magic eventually but after watching that speed test video https://youtu.be/okGb8lqg8fA I don't see the RM being any faster and the active cooling seems to be a gimmick of some sort as it runs hotter than the OnePlus 5T as shown in that video. I know the firmware is not final but I seriously doubt they'll do any miracles especially in the stock version...but in the same time I'm scared of getting the Chinese version because it probably won't support Play Store and so on. What do you guys think, should I keep the OP5T?
Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
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Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
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I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
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I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
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Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
ben cherian said:
Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
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How much battery and CPu temp you have while idle?
Has anyone compared if the 12.0 releases have better thermal performance as compared to the 12.5 release?
My K20Pro running on 12.0 is much cooler than my 11Ultra running 12.5. Sure, people have been saying that the snapdragon 888 runs hot but at the same time I've been seeing reports that other devices include the Redmi Note series are also experiencing heat issues after updating to 12.5.
Honestly for me heating has never been an issue, what do you think a good thermal would be like for you?
Probably like not reaching 39C for anything non-gaming or video calling activity?
Mine is not reaching it
Good for you. Many others are unfortunate like me
What is your room temp?
lambstone said:
Good for you. Many others are unfortunate like me
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I felt the same way. I used it for 2 days with 12.0.9 when i got the mi11ultra and i didnt feel the heat. When i updated to 12.5 e felt it.
wondering if its possible to downgrade without bootloader unlocked?
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What is your room temp?
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Room temp doesn't matter, not when it comes to the 11Ultra. With AC on at a comfy 24C as opposed to just a fan with a room temp of 29C its still the same heating issues just a matter of the ramp up time for heat.
xwonic said:
I felt the same way. I used it for 2 days with 12.0.9 when i got the mi11ultra and i didnt feel the heat. When i updated to 12.5 e felt it.
wondering if its possible to downgrade without bootloader unlocked?
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Damn, so its much better on 12.0.9? I'm going to flash 12.0.9 this weekend. AFAIK, downgrading either way will require a wipe and I think you'll need to unlock BL either way.
May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU. This has dramatically improved the thermals and battery performance. Idle temp of the phone drops to 25C regularly. For the past one day, it has not reached 37C when doing routine browsing, calling and texting etc. The temp jumped to 40C during HD video playback, and once to 41C while playing angry birds. During quick charging at high ambient temp, it touched 44C once. Normally with the Mi quick wireless charger (80W), the temp variates between 40-43C.
Im yet to notice the anticipated drop in performance of the phone. For routine games and HD video playback, 75% performance of this beast is enough so far. It is as smooth as it is supposed to be.
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May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU. This has dramatically improved the thermals and battery performance. Idle temp of the phone drops to 25C regularly. For the past one day, it has not reached 37C when doing routine browsing, calling and texting etc. The temp jumped to 40C during HD video playback, and once to 41C while playing angry birds. During quick charging at high ambient temp, it touched 44C once. Normally with the Mi quick wireless charger (80W), the temp variates between 40-43C.
Im yet to notice the anticipated drop in performance of the phone. For routine games and HD video playback, 75% performance of this beast is enough so far. It is as smooth as it is supposed to be.
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Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
speedtripler said:
Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
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According to my daily use of the phone, I do not need the full processor power. Seventy-five percent power is enough for that. For some long tasks, such as reading a lengthy pdf or google maps on a road trip, even 50% CPU power may be enough, granting enhanced battery performance and heat management. For the most intensive tasks, I can restore it to its original might (or even overclock it for that matter) just by toggling a switch, if that shall be desired. Options are good to have. A software fix and aggressive management of heat officially by Xiaomi, the point here by OP, will be welcomed of course.
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Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
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actually a snap865 is really really fast and more then capable of running everything except gamming in comparison, and if you don't game high 3d games then you don't need the full power of the snap888 which is 25% faster.
I actually paid 850€ for mostly the camera and the media comfort, so i have to agree with hellodrsoul, if your main goal is have a phone for this purposed(no hardcore gaming) then capping it is a good thing,
also yeah Xiaomi is lacking in the optimization department.
on March everyone was stating in news about the mi 11 ultra
World’s First Full Phase Change Heat Dissipation Technologyeither it sucks or xiaomi software team is at blame.
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According to my daily use of the phone, I do not need the full processor power. Seventy-five percent power is enough for that. For some long tasks, such as reading a lengthy pdf or google maps on a road trip, even 50% CPU power may be enough, granting enhanced battery performance and heat management. For the most intensive tasks, I can restore it to its original might (or even overclock it for that matter) just by toggling a switch, if that shall be desired. Options are good to have. A software fix and aggressive management of heat officially by Xiaomi, the point here by OP, will be welcomed of course.
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The CPU is smart enough to not run at 100% when it's not necessary......
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The CPU is smart enough to not run at 100% when it's not necessary......
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Yes, it generally is smart enough but it is overheating for some people. There, one has to intervene...
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May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU.....
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Hold on, Franco Kernel Manager you mean? I don't believe there's a custom kernel yet
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Hold on, Franco Kernel Manager you mean? I don't believe there's a custom kernel yet
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Yes, Franco Kernal manager. The link is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel
You are right. There are no custom kernals available yet. But the FKM has the option to underclock the CPU and GPU and for me it works flawlessly.