Nintendo pisses me off. Their naivety blows me away sometimes and since naivety is my biggest pet peeve, Nintendo just makes my blood boil often.
First off, they release a system that is behind the mark when it comes to graphics, yet they believe that the usual rainbow-pop BS that is Nintendo and their wonderfully novel motion controllers will make Nintendo survive forever.
I yell at the computer showing me article after article back in the day, yelling that novelty doesn't last (as long as quality). A year ago, Nintendo CEO gets bitter and yells at developers for not making all their games for Nintendo (duh, AGAIN, novelty doesn't LAST).
Now, http://news.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-apple-is-enemy-of-the-future/8248
Nintendo thinks their biggest rival is Apple. I'm not privy to what Apple users are actually doing with their devices (although I do know that sheep tend to all do the same thing together), but apparently they play games. Nintendo reports losses this past quarter and now they respond with EVEN MORE NAIVETY.
I just want to yell at the screen again. It's not Apple that's killing your sales. It's your LACK of continuous development and innovation. You can't ride high on garbage graphics, novel controlling, and game schemes that mostly appeal to women and children, who don't spend a great amount (of money) on gaming in the first place. I laugh when I see someone actually buying DS games in the store. R4 anyone?
Nintendo just doesn't get it. They should have already been in development of a Wii HD and should really be moving on something that can compete with Natal this holiday season. Plus, where is the DS that can do more than game and chat with other DS users in the vain of teenage girls? Where is the DS that doesn't rely on homebrew apps to give it some degree of functionality? They should also get away, at least for half of the time, from that novel rainbow-poppy BS that they specialize in that makes them the poster-child for homosexual gaming...
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The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
JAguirre1231 said:
The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
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Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
I agree 100%. Graphics are bad and their just so dated. I think im gonna go get that Peppa Pig game.... Looks fun!
The problem with the Wii is not the graphics, but the games.
It has 3 times or more the PS2 power, and the PS2 has some of the best games ever.
I have a Wii, it was collecting dust for a year and a half until I just recently bought Monster Hunter Tri, it's an awesome game. Also, your statement on buying DS games I pretty much agree with. I have an R4, but the only games I've actually bought for the DS are Pokemon Diamond, Platinum, and Soul Silver.
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Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when **** sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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amy winehouse isn't that bad. the band that recorded the album isn't, at least...
and the wii has no real competitors so far (ps3 has those controlers soon, but who owns a ps3? )
but yeah I agree!!
rorytmeadows said:
Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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Please, don't use foul language.
Okay, you see...there are many things about present day Nintendo that really do piss me off. Really. But, the thing is...there is nothing they can do now, or in the infinite future, that will ever change the fact that NINTENDO IS THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME COMPANY THAT HAS EVER OR WILL EVER EXIST. This is simply inarguable.
In reality, the reason why I'm so pissed off at Nintendo's BS these days is because their past was so glorious. I'm going to call 1985 to 1995 the decade of Nintendo. It peaked, an incredibly high peak, with the SNES. During the 16 bit era we had a Nintendo that not only made high-end hardware, but also successfully courted 3rd party developers to produce games for it.
Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
Now if you enjoy playing 25 new first person shooters every year on your 360/ps3 you will probably think I'm nuts. I realize I'm in the minority here. Quite frankly there are almost no games on Microsoft or Sony's consoles that interest me at all. And given that the hardware in both those machines is over 5 years old now, with absolutely no word yet of anything next-gen, I'm not too hung up on the Wii's underpowered nature.
So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
And if Nintendo really is loosing money now, it's just a dent on the enormous pile of cash they have built up from selling the Wii and DS. MS and Sony have only recently started seeing profits from selling their hardware, so it is in their best interests to prolong the life of their machines for as long as possible to justify the high initial loses. This puts Nintendo in a position to release modern high-end video game hardware with almost no competition, at least for awhile. They should call the new machine the SNES 2 and it would have Super Mario World built into its BIOS. OMG who can I kill to make this happen.
Of course it won't though...not as long as there is a never ending supply of idiots who think that standing on a Nintendo branded slab of plastic will make them loose weight.
tsk tsk Nintendo, I still love you because of the games. If you are going to invest in any new hardware, make sure that it has something to do with granting Shigeru Miyamoto's immortality by hooking his brain up to a supercomputer.
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Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
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Zelda = lame
Metroid = lame
Mario and Mario Kart are the only thing going for Nintendo gamewise. I miss thousands of hours on Goldeneye and WaveRace. Party games and Smash Bros are terrible games; NO WAY will I like a game that rewards my little brother beating me at a game that he wins just by mashing the keypad. I understand the novelty of a Wii, but my brothers and I made fun of my mother for years for moving her controller 3 feet in the direction she wanted to jump on SNES and GameCube Mario games, so NO WAY will I like a system that rewards that goofy stuff.
Nintendo will always dominate the market if they never sacrifice hardware performance for novelty again. The largest sellers are 1st person shooters. If they made a system that developers wanted to utilize for FPS games, they would dominate the market beyond what novelty can do. Well, that and they don't crap out a system marketed for all of the most annoying children in the world.
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So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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The "no foul language" part.
I'll go with Metroid being lame. I have not really the series since Super Metroid anyway. But ZELDA NOT LAME K:ALSUDJLKAJ:SDLK
Maybe the style is a bit done to death but the recent versions of it still kick ass, especially the DS ones.
And I'm sure you agree Super Mario Galaxy (and soon 2 omg) and Super Mario New Wii (not the mediocre DS version) totally make up for Nintendo's wiimote shaking obsession. Well not totally...
With all this wrists flailing wiimote madness, it is easy to forget that Nintendo ever managed to produce something like SNES controller. In Super Mario World, if you wanted to spin jump, you just pressed the X button. But in Super Mario New Wii, you have to shake the controller like an idiot and risk smacking someone in the face and breaking your TV if you forgot to put the strap around your wrist.
I wish Nintendo would have kept it simple I really do. The only games I actually play on the Wii are the ones that still use buttons as the main controls.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
If you're also talking about sales than I think you're wrong 'cause the DS outsold the PSP and the WII outsold the PS3 and XBOX 360.
If you think Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing then you're wrong.
But if you just don't like the games that people developed for Nintendo, then I think it's the game developers fault too.
But then again my sources are Wikipedia.
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
[highlight]There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks[/highlight]. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. For this reason we'd like to ask you to refrain from discussions about religion or politics, we do not wish to limit your right to free speech, but we have noticed these topics tend to get heated and might be best discussed in a different environment. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
nintendo's only good games at this point are ones made by nintendo themselves. Theyve been ignoring that fact because of how well financially the Wii has been doing, but first party games alone can never support a console without any quality third party titles to back them up. Nintendo's in for a wake up call real soon.
I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
r3s-rt said:
Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
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Yes, we are aware that the Wii is marketed for all ages. But that is not where the money is. Everyone knows that the money market is not only people 18-34, but especially males 18-34. I'm a little sick of Nintendo whining every time they report low earnings or don't have developers jump into making hot third-party titles for the Wii. They don't get that because their system isn't marketed for the money making demographic. I think only in Japan are the age demos are off from the rest of the world. There are plenty of 30-year-old Japanese that seems to be into that pop-rainbow BS that Nintendo craps out constantly. That's fine, but that's not the rest of the world.
I couldn't possibly care less about these sort of games. This puts me in, I'd venture, less than 3% of the young male population of this country who can buy an Xbox or whatnot in the first place.
Discuss.
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More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
ninestraycats said:
More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
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Yep same. I'm different to everyone in my school. Everyones got iphoned, I got a Desire, now everyones jealous haha.. anyways, I like racing and shooting games. Just the real ones. CoD and GT not things like killzone or WoW. Though I don't play often, every 2–3 weeks maybe, I do enjoy some adrenalin pumping through my veins when I due just begore the end of the mussion. It makes me more determined to finish correctly the next time etc..
Everyones always asking me when I'm online next to play a bit of CoD or whatever and I just don't understand how you can become addicted to something that doesn't actually exist. Well it does but not really, you know what I mean : )
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LOL been a gamer for too long. But I have never told anyone that they were "gay" because they didn't like to game.
But.. usually they were women.
well im different to everyone in my school.
most of the lads in my year like football and cod.
"medal of honor- is ****"
"driving games - ****"
"every other game apart from cod and fifa- is ****"
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
about 1 year ago everyones phones where sony ericssons (crap ones)
and samsung tocco lites (horrible)
but 1 lad had a t-mobile g1.
i had my 7 year old htc himalaya brick (excellent phone)
now quite a few have htc's desires, hero, legend. (and obviously don't know about xda (what a pitty))
people seem to follow other people and call you weird because you are not following.
sorry if i drifted off topic.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
im a gran turismo guy i love that game, i also enjoy a nice helping of cod now and then too, i cant stand football soccer or basketball games though
COD - meh
FIFA - meh
GT5 - drool
Well, an explanation is warranted for the above...
I never really got the hang of FPS games in multiplayer, mostly because I used to pwn at CounterStrike and Half-Life, but a hiatus during my formative days (read, TEENAGE) lost my edge in FPS games. Mostly I will check out the single player experience, and if it gains enough traction amongst my friends, I'll get the original copy. Mostly, for group enjoyment purposes, we game L4D if we wanna play FPS. I'm just waiting for Crysis 2 (as an excuse to upgrade my Gfx card more than anything else )
FIFA... well... is a game for douchetards who imagine that they have the skills needed to take Leo Messi/CR to whatever glories that in real life they couldn't achieve (both for the gamers and the players). Simply said, it gives little to none benefits, and merely act as an escapement and commercial device. For the more serious guys, we play futsal, which is like football played in a netball field. Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO). And for the brainiacs, we play Football Manager 2011.
GT5 is going to be something of a old history for me. It's more of a nostalgia device than something of real enjoyment. Back in the days, me and my brother played GT1, GT2, GT3, and probably GT4. To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track. I'll skip the nostalgia bit... Anyway, since neither of us own a PS3, and neither of us plans to own a PS3, this game will forever reside in the droolworthy section of our hindbrains, possibly forever.
The problem with me is I'm probably in the less than 0.05% zone. I'm a self-professed geek that likes to party and do sports. I could, enjoyably, spend the afternoon tinkering with my PC/phone or just dump everything to hang out with friends, chilling out and maybe finding the answers to life (we checked, its not 42).
So gaming is cool and all that, but it's not the be all and end all for me
Gotta say... I love GT5 lol. I think I like it more than GT3 or 4 because I'm actually trying now lol. I used to have a Game Shark, Code Breaker, and Action Replay to cheat my way to having (basically) infinite cash, the AI guys wouldn't move, and every car would have like 16x acceleration lol. It made it fun cause I could get what I wanted when I wanted, but ruined the sense of accomplishment needed to make it feel way better. I actually HAVE to try and succeed in this now, which is awesome imo.
Call of Duty is cool, but I'm not into it as much anymore as I am with GT5 now.
FIFA is a game I'll never play. I don't do sports, nor like them; especially soccer.
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To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track.
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That is VERY cool and I didn't know that. Sucker as I am for new experiences, it makes me want to play it again with this knowledge.
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Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO).
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Haha, I hope I'm reading your implications right: b/c size isn't an issue, women can play the sport side-by-side with men. The other implication would be a little... off-putting. >.<
flyboyovyick said:
well im different to everyone in my school.
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
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Sorry I paraphrased your Quote
1) Nothing wrong with Long Hair and playing Bass. I did both for a long time - but now the hair fell out and I play a little guitar (i.e. it stares at me taunting me on the wall collecting dust due to RL stealing all my time)
2) Your unique... just like everybody else
3) Half Life is probably the BEST GAME EVER. And I'm a sucker for driving games. I haven't purchased GT yet as I know my wife would kill me while I was going around the track at 4am.
YOU DON'T LIKE THOSE GAMES!!! wow!!, i didn't know another human being could have such different taste to me.
But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
Im lucky anyway because im a self admitted nerd at school but for some strange reason nobody believes me? (WTF's with that!?!) Which is especially strange considering people are paying me to set up snow leopard hackintosh on their pc's.
My favorite shooter is Gears o' War 2 (can't really call it fps), but, uh, what do you guys think of bioshock? I personally don't like it, much to the disdain of all my friends who are obsessed with it.
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But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
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Wow, that is strange. At my school there was no "jock" contingency either, but why would there necessarily have to be, stereotypes are stereotypes.
What IS indeed common to probably every school ever are cliques. I'm guessing it's the 'us vs. them' mentality that's so crucial to so many living things.
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FIFA?
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Soccer is the worst game (notice I didn't call it a sport) in the history of mankind.