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Faulty 4gb Micro? or phone?

I recently sold my Sandisk 2gb micro and bought a Sandisk 4gb micro. From time to time my stuff on the card get deleted. Since I bought it (3-4 days ago) I have had to reload everyone 4-5x. Has anyone experience this problem?
I'm using the rom that came with the Tilt when it first came out.

Are you using the card outside of the phone on any PC?
If you are, you may need to update the drivers on your PC.
Any SD card above 1Gb requires a new formatting technique as the filing system is different.
Writing to a card on a PC with old SD card drivers can cause file allocation corruption and sometimes you will even lose access to the card completely.
Check out your card maufacturers website or any others (Toshiba, Sandisk etc.) and download any OEM driver updates or new formatting utility they have for you PC.
Failing that, only tranfer data to the card via Activesync (I know its a pain!) after formatting the card on the phone.

Farsquidge said:
Are you using the card outside of the phone on any PC?
If you are, you may need to update the drivers on your PC.
Any SD card above 1Gb requires a new formatting technique as the filing system is different.
Writing to a card on a PC with old SD card drivers can cause file allocation corruption and sometimes you will even lose access to the card completely.
Check out your card maufacturers website or any others (Toshiba, Sandisk etc.) and download any OEM driver updates or new formatting utility they have for you PC.
Failing that, only tranfer data to the card via Activesync (I know its a pain!) after formatting the card on the phone.
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I'm using a Sandisk Micro mate to connect to my computer. It came with the card
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-MicroMate-Bundle-SDSDRH-4096-901/dp/B000J5LA9Q

ZzFDKzZ said:
I'm using a Sandisk Micro mate to connect to my computer. It came with the card
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-MicroMate-Bundle-SDSDRH-4096-901/dp/B000J5LA9Q
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That does not mean a great deal! It is only providing a USB link to the SD. If you use the Windows file system to access that card without it having the latest SD file system updates loaded on your PC it will not work correctly.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound fussy here but did you get a driver CD with the adapter? Most people don't bother updating the drivers if their computer recognises the device to start with.
Only trying to be helpful.

Farsquidge said:
That does not mean a great deal! It is only providing a USB link to the SD. If you use the Windows file system to access that card without it having the latest SD file system updates loaded on your PC it will not work correctly.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound fussy here but did you get a driver CD with the adapter? Most people don't bother updating the drivers if their computer recognises the device to start with.
Only trying to be helpful.
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Hi, no I did not received a driver cd for it. I'm gonna go search for a new driver online.
EDIT: Went to the Sandisk site and they do not have an driver update for this device. Sandisk Micromate SDDR-113

that happened when i installed my 6gb microsd(I transfered files from 2gb microsd to 6 gb). Things started to dissapear but not delete(available memory space didn't go up). You need to reformat the card, and redo everything for it to fix

ekw said:
that happened when i installed my 6gb microsd(I transfered files from 2gb microsd to 6 gb). Things started to dissapear but not delete(available memory space didn't go up). You need to reformat the card, and redo everything for it to fix
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Yeah weird right. I realize my card was blank but it came out that 1.3gb were being use. I just reformat my card, hopefully this won't happen again.

does external sd have to be in fat32?

i mean id like a filesystem without the 4 gig size limit. i sometimes want to take high def movie rips to friends houses, i have a 32 gig external sd which would be ideal except for the movies are over 4 gig in size. im on rom Paragon RC5.1 thanks for replys in advance

Wouldn't ntsf work? Idk for sure, but I think it should.

When I partition my hd,i put it ntsf

boborone said:
When I partition my hd,i put it ntsf
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External SD not HD...

Trusselo said:
External SD not HD...
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Yes I know, insert it into computer, right click, format, ntsf. Or there are many programs that will do it too.
Also drive manager in win 7

boborone said:
Yes I know, insert it into computer, right click, format, ntsf. Or there are many programs that will do it too.
Also drive manager in win 7
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Its ntFS.
1. You would most likely be reverting to stock whenever u flash new ROM. So make sure stock ROM recognizes NTFS format (early confirmation is better than reformat later).
2. NTFS is not universally recognized in all systems/devices. So be double sure u won't be using this micro card as backup in ur camera/elsewhere.

Micro SD Help

I just got my class 10 micro SD in the mail today and want to swap out my old one. Is the process as easy as copying everything over to the new card, or is there something else I need to do? Also, when I plug my Nook into my pc, I get two drives. One is a removeable disk, the other is mynookcolor. So yeah, now Im really confused. My rom is installed on the internal memory.

DozeBeatS said:
I just got my class 10 micro SD in the mail today and want to swap out my old one. Is the process as easy as copying everything over to the new card, or is there something else I need to do? Also, when I plug my Nook into my pc, I get two drives. One is a removeable disk, the other is mynookcolor. So yeah, now Im really confused. My rom is installed on the internal memory.
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If your running off of EMMC then it's pretty simple if the Old card is just 1 big fat32 partition with normal Android data files and other things. I reccomend using a seperate card reader however. Now just Plug the Old card into your PC and copy all of the files to a Folder on said PC. Now plugin New card in and copy the files to the New Card. Enjoy.
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Done. What was throwing me off was the partition the system automatically creates. I wasnt sure if I needed to copy that as well. Once I popped the new card in it automatically created those files. Everything is good. Time to test speeds.
Thanks!

Master 64 GB MicroSD SDXC unable to format/delete files

Hey guys,
Im new to the forum but ive been following quietly for a while. I thought id make my first post, a new thread because ive been having an issue which i dont know is common or not but has been killing me for the past 4 days and i havent been able to find a solution.
BASICALLY,
My MicroSD 64GB (Master UHS-1 Class 10) has all of a sudden decided not to work on me and here is the problem.
First let me establish a few things.
-> MicroSD reads on any computer (im running mac)
-> MicroSD was formatted on my Xperia Z and has been working for the last 3 weeks
-> I have ejected the MicroSD several times without properly unmounting it from the phone (being honest)
-> Files can be read and copied onto the computer
-> Files can be copied onto the MicroSD but once ejected from the computer and reinserted, the files disappear. Its as if the files that are existing on the MicroSD are locked there forever.
-> Files can be deleted and do appear to have been deleted, however once the MicroSD is reinserted into the computer, (Via usb or SD reader), the files just appear again.
Problems:
-> I am trying to format the MicroSD using Disk Utlilty on Mac but to no avail. i have tried every single option and i have even used SD formatter 3.1 which is a third party program. On mac, all i get is an error saying "Mac OSX was unable to repair the disk" -"you can still open or copy files on the disk, but you cant save changes to files on the disk. Back up the disk and reformat as soon as you can."
-> windows gives me the same error. in windows format. I can do exactly the same i.e copy and paste files onto the MicroSD which disappear, i can delete files which reappear and when i attempt to format using even MS-DOS's "DiskPart" utility, which is supposed to be epic, it still does not work..
I just want to reformat the disk and kill everything on it and return it back to normal.
Ive looked at so many searches and read so many web pages, forums, blogs, everything but i could not find a solid solution. Nothing Works.
MY FINAL PROBLEM!!
Once the Micro SD is placed into the Xperia Z, a message pops up saying "preparing micro SD card.. Checking Errors" This message DOES NOT disappear for hours. ive had it on for half a day and it drained my battery to 26% before i realised that it was killing my battery. it was on standby aswell. I have an old 2GB microsd which i used and the message pops up for about 1 second before it disappears.
This is my problem. I cant use the MicroSD on my Xperia Z anymore. The phone just wont read it. It will prepare it for the next century.
If anyone has any suggestions to how i can get these haunted files off my MicroSD and get it back in working order id really appreciate your help!!
Thanks!!

FAT32, NTFS or exFAT?
Running stock or rooted?
I'm running third party software (paragon), and using NTFS.
17gb bluray movie worked without stuttering, and overall seems stable.
I'm rooted.

Thanks benziii for your reply!
My Xperia Z is rooted and with unlocked bootloader. I think it may have something to do with corrupted files? because of removing the MicroSD without unmounting it all the time perhaps? or i really dont know.
By the way its formatted as MS-DOS (FAT) at the moment =/ cant seem to do anything still. or change it.
Tired formatting in different format with no luck
& im trying to get access to a windows computer atm because i find there are many more third party apps on windows than there is on mac.

My Xperia Z is unlocked and rooted and I am using Sandisk 64gb class 10 sd card and no problems. But its just me! :laugh:

If I were to guess I'd say that the card has been corrupted. It may work with a low level format, or it may not.

re: MicroSD
danielz04 said:
Thanks benziii for your reply!
My Xperia Z is rooted and with unlocked bootloader. I think it may have something to do with corrupted files? because of removing the MicroSD without unmounting it all the time perhaps? or i really dont know.
By the way its formatted as MS-DOS (FAT) at the moment =/ cant seem to do anything still. or change it.
Tired formatting in different format with no luck
& im trying to get access to a windows computer atm because i find there are many more third party apps on windows than there is on mac.
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1. Removing the card without unmounting it is seriously asking for problems.
2. My Xperia Z documentation says it supports up to 32gb cards. i.e. not 64gb.
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danielz04 said:
Thanks benziii for your reply!
& im trying to get access to a windows computer atm because i find there are many more third party apps on windows than there is on mac.
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Perhaps, but it's doubtful they can do anything you can't do on your Mac or Linux.
On OS X, you can run the following two items from the terminal as root:
1. fdisk
2. newfs ((I assume you want "dos" or "exfat" file system types).
Just, you know, make sure you get the drive right and don't nuke your Mac's hard drive by accident!

I thought max size was 32gb also
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Officially it is, but I've seen 64gb cards referenced as working many times. I think it's just a matter of the phone not working to SDXC specifications. Though that's hardly a good reason, as everything else on the phone is first class...

Everyday is a learning day.
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It seems your SD card is dead My SXZ broke one SD card (32GB Transcend Ultimate, 10 class) in the first week of using - now it is recognized as 1 GB unknown disk with RAW filesystem. So I had to buy new one (32 GB Sandisk Ultra, 10 class).
My phone just loses SD sometimes and doesn't recognize it till restart. Before installing .434 firmware update I met this problem very often. Now (after installing .434) I meet it sometimes when open stock Camera app. I think that is firmware bug, so waiting for next updates.

Jeka21rus said:
It seems your SD card is dead My SXZ broke one SD card (32GB Transcend Ultimate, 10 class) in the first week of using - now it is recognized as 1 GB unknown disk with RAW filesystem. So I had to buy new one (32 GB Sandisk Ultra, 10 class).
My phone just loses SD sometimes and doesn't recognize it till restart. Before installing .434 firmware update I met this problem very often. Now (after installing .434) I meet it sometimes when open stock Camera app. I think that is firmware bug, so waiting for next updates.
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I was doing some research and realised that before a MicroSD card dies, it will write protect the data before the MSD card dies so that you can back up any data. you can delete files and copy files but they will autodelete themselves after the card is remounted. thats exactly the problem that i have.. oh well thanks guys. i sent the card back for replacement!! hopefully next one i wont screw over too.
Lesson learnt. never eject sd card without unmounting on phone first!! thanks guys!

Jeka21rus said:
It seems your SD card is dead My SXZ broke one SD card (32GB Transcend Ultimate, 10 class) in the first week of using - now it is recognized as 1 GB unknown disk with RAW filesystem. So I had to buy new one (32 GB Sandisk Ultra, 10 class).
My phone just loses SD sometimes and doesn't recognize it till restart. Before installing .434 firmware update I met this problem very often. Now (after installing .434) I meet it sometimes when open stock Camera app. I think that is firmware bug, so waiting for next updates.
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Interesting.
I bought a 32GB Transcend class10 MicroSD card from Amazon at the same time as I ordered my Xperia Z.
I did manage to copy around 10Gb of music to it, using Sony Bridge For Mac before it was suddenly 'disconnected' part way through the copy process (I was filling it to 25Gb with music from an iTunes Playlist).
After that I tried it in the Mac directly and a Windows laptop, neither of which would write to the MicroSD card, some of the files could be read, but not many. While SDFormatter claimed to have formatted the card, the files (or their names at least) were still visible, further attempts at formatting the card (with SDFormatter) claimed it was write protected.
Putting it directly into the Xperia Z would cause it to reboot after 2-3 minutes.
I returned the card to Amazon. If it had worked on my Mac (or laptop) I might have kept it, but working on nothing made it useless.
I am currently using an old 8Gb MicroSD card that came with (I think...) the Sony Arc I had a few years back and it seems to work perfectly. I'm loath to buy another 32Gb card to find that it doesn't work.
I assume there is no reason why the Xperia Z shouldn't work with a 32Gb MicroSD card? Do I need to ensure that I get a different class of card, or is a class 10 card suitable? Is it just not compatible with the Transcend card?
Any suggestions you have will be most helpful.

danielz04 said:
I was doing some research and realised that before a MicroSD card dies, it will write protect the data before the MSD card dies so that you can back up any data. you can delete files and copy files but they will autodelete themselves after the card is remounted. thats exactly the problem that i have.. oh well thanks guys. i sent the card back for replacement!! hopefully next one i wont screw over too.
Lesson learnt. never eject sd card without unmounting on phone first!! thanks guys!
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same thing happens to me! files remove and reappear ! "chkdsk /f command" in windows shows that one of my files is cross-linked! here is the message:
\App\install\.goutputstream-5JN7ZW is cross-linked on allocation unit 1181239.
i i tried formatting with windows paragon linux (fdisk,mkfs.msdos,gparted,testdisk...)even i ran windows 98 and ran scandisk for fixing cross-link issue ! but till now no luck.
can anyone help me with this
thanks in advance!

in my opinion there is no way to repair this, just throw it in trashbin.. ive tryd almost all..

I'm in the middle of an RMA with SanDisk right now. It seems that once the sd decides to be read only to protect itself, it's done. Replacement is the only option.
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i have the same problem with my 32gb sandisk sdcard,Tried almost everything and nothing worked.

Problems with 32GB SD Card (SanDisk)

Hi all,
I have a 32GB SD Card (SanDisk) in my Z1. I am using Media Go to transfer my music from my PC to my SD Card on my Z1.
The problem is that only 'some' of my music is transferred across correctly and other albums/tracks play as if they have been encrypted in some sort of way. The music I am transferring is playing correctly on my PC, it is only when I transfer it that it becomes a problem.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
*Just to add, I have no problem transferring the same music across to my 8GB card. I have two brand new 32GB cards and have the same problem of only being able to transfer about half the music, the rest is unrecognisable.*

Have you tried not using media go?

akusokuzan said:
Have you tried not using media go?
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I am using Media Go and straight transferring across to the SD card

Maybe you can try formatting the 32GB SD card and copying all the music onto there again to see if it helps

akusokuzan said:
Maybe you can try formatting the 32GB SD card and copying all the music onto there again to see if it helps
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Re formatted (exFAT) both the 32GB cards I have and still the problem remains that some data/music is not getting transferred. I have just tested a 16GB card (same make and specs as one of the 32GB cards) from my tablet and this works and a 32GB card that didn't work in my Z1 works in my Xperia tablet Z so it seems my Z1 is having a problem with SD cards over 16GB for some reason I don't know

Try Fat32? I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.

raginginferno said:
Try Fat32? I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.
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Seconded. Absolutely zero problems with my 64GB Sandisk card formatted as FAT32. Always format SD cards on your phone.

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Try Fat32?
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Agree, I will suggest to try format in FAT32 because all the SDHC 32GB microSD are meant to use FAT32 natively so I don't know why you formatted a 32GB card in exFAT.
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I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.
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Windows will not because you have to use a specified application to format 64GB SDXC natively in exFAT to FAT32.
Z1 support exFAT and will not format in FAT32.
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xasbo said:
Always format SD cards on your phone.
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Absolutely not true. All the High-End devices not support all the formats like exFAT so is recommended to format them via specific application on PC and then insert the card to device. BTW, the phone will format even fake cards without problems, PC will not and you can check them as well.

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Absolutely not true. All the High-End devices not support all the formats like extFAT so is recommended to format them via specific application on PC and then insert the card to device. BTW, the phone will format even fake cards without problems, PC will not and you can check them as well.
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If you want an SD card to work on a specific phone, why wouldn't you format it on that phone?

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If you want an SD card to work on a specific phone, why wouldn't you format it on that phone?
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Is that specific phone using a special unknown partition system for the card? I don't think so. The phones are this days build with market standards including SDHC and SDXC compatibility. SDHC natively use FAT32, SDXC natively use exFAT. Not all phones support SDXC so the card have to be formatted in FAT32 to make it functional and the only way is to use specific application on PC. Formatting the SD on PC also is more efficient than OS of the phones and the main reason is that OS of any phone can't verified a faulty or fake SD card so you can losing data without even know why.

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Is that specific phone using a special unknown partition system for the card? I don't think so. The phones are this days build with market standards including SDHC and SDXC compatibility. SDHC natively use FAT32, SDXC natively use exFAT. Not all phones support SDXC so the card have to be formatted in FAT32 to make it functional and the only way is to use specific application on PC. Formatting the SD on PC also is more efficient than OS of the phones and the main reason is that OS of any phone can't verified a faulty or fake SD card so you can losing data without even know why.
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Sorry man, you are usually on point, but with this you are talking nonsense.
I have never seen or heard of an Android phone which didn't use FAT32 or exFAT, nor one that made arbitrary partions. Further, if the phone doesn't support exFAT, obviously it won't format the card to use the exFAT file system. The bit about a PC being more efficient is just total nonsense. I have formatted several different size/brand SD cards on this phone and others without having issues using them in the phone or a PC or other Android device, even. If you can satisfactorily back up anything you've said, I'll change my mind.

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Sorry man, you are usually on point, but with this you are talking nonsense.
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Happen sometimes, no body is perfect.
xasbo said:
I have never seen or heard of an Android phone which didn't use FAT32 or exFAT, nor one that made arbitrary partions.
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I make you and example, I got HTC HD2 with latest Android ICS ported from NEXUS, it not support and it not recognize a 64GB SDXC in exFAT, the only way to make working that card on HD2 is to format it in FAT32 on PC.
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Further, if the phone doesn't support exFAT, obviously it won't format the card to use the exFAT file system.
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Right, but a phone which support exFAT and FAT32 as well will not format the exFAT card to FAT32 end even if he dose the card have huge risk to be compromise. Speaking from experience.
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The bit about a PC being more efficient is just total nonsense. I have formatted several different size/brand SD cards on this phone and others without having issues using them in the phone or a PC or other Android device, even. If you can satisfactorily back up anything you've said, I'll change my mind.
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I never said you CAN'T format the card on the phone. It will work anyway but on PC the formatting will be more deeply efficient because you using specified application to do so. On High-End phones the formatting can be good too but you can't say is well done like on PC.
All the Sl..ts making Blo..bs, but there is always someone who do it much better! Am I wrong? :laugh:

let's go back to the topic.I have the same problem on my Z1 as well.
will this related to a slow (class 4) speed sd card?

FAT_C said:
let's go back to the topic.I have the same problem on my Z1 as well.
will this related to a slow (class 4) speed sd card?
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Absolutely not, the class of the card is not an issue at all. If you have a SDHC have to be in FAT32, check it, just in case. The partition can be corrupted then will be recommended to format the card how you like.
But if your problem is the same as OP mentioned with the same application, to me the app is the main problem. Try to move the files with different application or use different media player to see if the issue still there.

I have put the 32GB cardin my Tablet Z and it's working without error but I can still not get anything over 16GB running on my Z1
Seems a bit strange to me unless it's a random 4.3 problem though I haven't heard any wide spread issues
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N345H said:
I have put the 32GB cardin my Tablet Z and it's working without error but I can still not get anything over 16GB running on my Z1
Seems a bit strange to me unless it's a random 4.3 problem though I haven't heard any wide spread issues
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Yes, seems a bit strange and I will suggest to check the card on PC with h2testw, just in case. If everything is ok with the card then is your phone and probably Android it self, in this scenario I will consider to flash different .290 FW.

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Yes, seems a bit strange and I will suggest to check the card on PC with h2testw, just in case. If everything is ok with the card then is your phone and probably Android it self, in this scenario I will consider to flash different .290 FW.
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Thanks, I will run a few tests when I can get back to my PC
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I'm using 32GB SanDisk extreme uhs1 and never had a single issue. (well, once cos it was from a faulty batch, but your card doesn't seem to have any of my issues before replacement)
Don't use media go. I think that that's what ruins your music by encoding it like iTunes which z1 doesn't like.
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