My HD+ of late has become more and more sluggish and sometimes becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. It hangs when opening an app, a book or while browsing the web. I am using the updated stock 2.1. Checking the RAM, I was surprised to see free RAM as low as 80MB. Killing apps running in the background does not help much. The internal memory is only 40% full. I am at a loss to understand what is going on. Has anybody else noticed this ? Should I wipe it clean and start again ? My device is not rooted. Any advice regarding backing up would be helpful.
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PeeAM
I ran into this, but seemed to be due to going under 3gb of storage. The HD+ does not seem to like going under that.
maybe uninstall some questionable apps
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My HD+ of late has become more and more sluggish and sometimes becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. It hangs when opening an app, a book or while browsing the web. I am using the updated stock 2.1. Checking the RAM, I was surprised to see free RAM as low as 80MB. Killing apps running in the background does not help much. The internal memory is only 40% full. I am at a loss to understand what is going on. Has anybody else noticed this ? Should I wipe it clean and start again ? My device is not rooted. Any advice regarding backing up would be helpful.
Thanks
PeeAM
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I was having similar issue so I started looking at apps that weren't exactly Nook approved. I removed an HD wallpaper app and my Nook was healed.
cozumelstu said:
I was having similar issue so I started looking at apps that weren't exactly Nook approved. I removed an HD wallpaper app and my Nook was healed.
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Same, but for me it was my launcher (Apex). Try other ones out there.
I just saw lag on my swift key keyboard for the first time. I'm using apex too.
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I just saw lag on my swift key keyboard for the first time. I'm using apex too.
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I am using Nova launcher from day 1 and the performance has deteriorated over time, so I cannot blame it. It could be an app hogging the memory. I have to kill a lot of processes to make it functional. I routinely get the message about the program not responding irrespective of which app I have opened. Even the browser (chrome, ICS) just crashes.
So after booting up my new HD+ for the first time today, and letting it update to 2.1, it was extremely slow... Slower than my 600mhz HTC aria. I tried rebooting again and installing apex. i have google sync disabled.
Then I force stopped "Home" and cleared its data. The tablet runs better, even when using B&N Home launcher.
its still not as fast as the dual core should be. I wish there was a way to reduce or disable animations in developer options.
I may try CM10.1
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So after booting up my new HD+ for the first time today, and letting it update to 2.1, it was extremely slow... Slower than my 600mhz HTC aria. I tried rebooting again and installing apex. i have google sync disabled.
Then I force stopped "Home" and cleared its data. The tablet runs better, even when using B&N Home launcher.
its still not as fast as the dual core should be. I wish there was a way to reduce or disable animations in developer options.
I may try CM10.1
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I'll add my name to those seeing lag since the update to 2.1. I'll try this and see if I get improvment. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
My tablet is running at a more satisfactory speed since I froze/disabled a bunch of bn apps, ditched apex, and use lightning launcher/zeam with full!screen. I also used spareparts+ to set animation transitions to fast.
Just don't make the mistake I made first of uninstalling twitter or chrome. All your hard work will reset.
I may make a symlinked build prop and play with this.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40961
It worked on my htc one s with similar specs.
So I adjusted the heapgrowthlimit and heapsize.
The stock settings were at 96M and 160M respectively. I don't know what they were pre-2.1
I changed a symlinked buildprop to 64 and 384.
So it feels a bit snappier. Could be placebo, but it's definitely not slower. If anyone else tries adjusting these let me know what you think.
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So I adjusted the heapgrowthlimit and heapsize.
The stock settings were at 96M and 160M respectively. I don't know what they were pre-2.1
I changed a symlinked buildprop to 64 and 384.
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I checked and found verygreen's CM10.1 rom (emmc) has 64 and 256. It is very snappy.
It's not apple to apple comparison as CM10.1 is based on Android 4.2.2.
I'm surprised stock has only 160M though.
The killer for me is the library sync process. I disabled the app, but it still does its thing. When a game or app slows down, it is when the sync starts. It is random, but should only be when the device is turned on, or when content is changed. The way they set it up makes no sense.
Restarting the device still shows the app disabled, but still syncs.
There also appears to be a lag that happens and is only fixed by a restart, but that is not as common as the sync issue.
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The killer for me is the library sync process. I disabled the app, but it still does its thing. When a game or app slows down, it is when the sync starts.
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That is one of the reasons that led me to replace the stock rom with CM10.1 on emmc. It is much better than the stock rom...
I really do not need that library having both Google Play and Amazon App store. I also have the Nook App which works just fine with CM10.1.
Even after clearing cashe and removing large data games, my HD+ was still acting sluggish. Based on the apps running in the background, no rogue apps seems to be causing it. No games beyond small ones were playing smooth and would randomly studder. Flash content also was making the device run very hot.
I boxed the HD+ up for return. Not sure what the issue is, but probably is 2.1, since the chipset should be fine. I might exchange for another and start from scratch with 10.1... Not sure at the moment. Were it not for the lag and odd heat issues, I would keep the device. Perhaps 10.1 is the answer, but
my return window ends soon.
I feel bad, since when I first got the device, it worked fine and doubted people that said the lag is there and common. They were right and I was wrong, so would be nice if 10.1 fixes the issues.
Added: Though my Excite 7.7 is a lot faster overall, I miss the HD+ display already.
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No games beyond small ones were playing smooth and would randomly studder. Flash content also was making the device run very hot.
Added: Though my Excite 7.7 is a lot faster overall, I miss the HD+ display already.
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I was able to play Dungeon Hunter 4 on CM10.1 and it seems to be okay. Web browsing is also very smooth. Flash does make it quite hot but same as my HTC Amaze Android phone so I'm used to it.
However, The HD+ is definitely not perfect, once in a long while (maybe like once in 2-3 days) the touch UI may become unresponsive.
That can be fixed by turning off and turning back on the display. Also I had screen flickering in settings screen(black background) under CM10.1 RC2. I have since flashed the latest RC4 and the flickering is gone. I have not tested it long enough to see if it still has the same UI problem.
Sorry for your bad experience. I am keeping the HD+ for myself but would not buy it for gifts because I know it has some issues that are not easy to fix without modification. And not everyone wants or has time to mod a tablet.
Update:
Just ran another Vellamo HTML5 benchmark and scored 1899 with CM10.1 RC4...very impressive.
On stock it was 1378 and I had 1379 on Nexus 7. Of course, benchmark may not be 100% indicative of daily operations.
Web browsing seems to be at least on par with Nexus 7, though. With the bigger screen it is definitely a more pleasant experience.
It seems that there is a big difference in benchmarks and actual performance, at least for some individual devices. I tried everything including CM10, orginal stock and the latest stock. Each time it would be fine initially and then gradually slow down to become unresponsive. I 'killed' processes, background apps frequently to make it usable but that ought not to be the way for regular use. I play no games except occasional spider solitaire. The main use was web browsing and reading books. I also have a samsung 7plus tab which did not suffer from any of these issues and became my go to device. So for now, its THANKS to the developers and goodbye Nook via ebay.
PeeAm
The 4470 for browser marks is faster than the Tegra 3. At least that is what Anandtech shows.
I took mine back to Best Buy, but do miss the display. Played MAME reloaded great. Seems any game that retrieves data on the fly has issues with stuttering with 2.1 at least. The reason I think this, is small games do not have the issue, nor does MAME which loads the games into memory to play. No on the fly data access.
Still tempted to get another and try 10.1 from the start. Even after a reset, 2.1 had the issues with games and other apps where my Excite 7.7 is smooth. In the Nooks defence, the TF300 is not real smooth either. A little better than the Nook HD+, but slower with MAME. Nook ruled with MAME.
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It seems that there is a big difference in benchmarks and actual performance, at least for some individual devices. I tried everything including CM10, orginal stock and the latest stock. PeeAm
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Just curious...did you try CM10 or 10.1. Also did you run it on SD card or emmc?
I didn't like CM10 at all and tried CM10.1 on SD card at first. The SD card performance simply sucks. It is only good for experiments not for any serious usage in my opinion. (Had poor benchmark results worse than stock, too.)
I tried CM10.1 RC2 and RC4 on emmc mainly for reading and web browsing. Both worked great.
Although I was able to play Dungeon Hunter 4, (from the start to boss fight) I believe I get a bit better frame rates on Nexus 7.
It's playable on Nook HD+ at reasonable frame rates but not super fast.(looks much better due to bigger screen)
I did not have any io issues likely because Dungeon Hunter 4 load all contents into memory up front in each area.
When I transition to a different area I did notice a temporary lag---must be from the loading of new data.
There is one trade-off with CM10.1 which is that the free gems supported by ads do not work.
I installed promotional apps but the gems never show up on the Nook HD+. That's not the case with Nexus 7.
I actually started using the Nook HD+ with CM10 on SD. The primary reason for buying it was the active developer community. I chose CM 10 over 10.1 as it was considered more stable than 10.1. Initial experience was great. However, I found that the the stock was better for battery life and for the sleep function with shutting the case. Then I updated the stock with the latest version and gradually the device became slower irrespective of using CM 10 or stock. I did not move to installing CM 10.1 on emmc as by then I had decided to sell the device. Again, not being a 'gamer' the great screen resolution and other specs was less important than battery life and responsiveness on browsing for the way I used the device. Like most things in life, I am sure there is a right 'one' for each one of us.
Battery life for what it was mainly intended (reading stuff and light apps) is great, but playing Flash and 3D games seems to be the main killer. Playing local video was good too. Since I am a gamer to some degree, the stutter from any game that loads data bugged me. No other Android device I have does this. The TF300 has issues with multitasking, but games do not stutter.
I think the issue is 2.1, but perhaps they cut corners with ram and flash speed? This would explain the stutter and the slooow load time for games like Asphalt 7. Even 108mb size pak files for Quake 2 loaded slowly. Almost ten times slower than my other devices. A few seconds or less on the other devices.
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Hey all
Ive had my XZ now for a few days and i'm over the moon with it. I was worried reading reviews and opinions on the screen etc but I really think its great. I have one small issue with it that I just wanted to know if it was normal, or if indeed I might have an issue somewhere.
Now, I've never used this project butter android before, but flicking between menus gives quite frequent "jumps" in the animation as soon on older android operating systems. Also, if I play any games, even basic 2D ones, I still get the hiccups in the frame rates. IE ill get a couple of seconds of it being totally smooth, and then a hiccup where it jumps a few frames. Its not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
Now, if I put the phone into airplane mode, then everything runs absolutely smooth, no hiccups in the UI, and games run absolutely flawlessly.
Is this normal, or should it still run totally smooth regardless of settings?
when not in Airplane mode, i checked with WIFI on and off, Mobile data On and off also. Bluetooth is always off, and so is NFC. The issue only seems to resolve itself in Airplane mode.
Can anyone help with this issue, or is it normal for this phone?
Thanks in advance :good:
everything should run smooth
do you run those games from older Sd card (class 2 or 4)
maybe you should do factory reset and check if everything works like it should or repair via SEUS (sony update service)
Did you do a fresh install of the apps or did you restore them from a previous phone using titanium?
There is currently no SD card installed so everything is coming off the interal memory.
I havent done a reset or anything as I didnt think of that seeing as it was new out the box and only a few days old.
All the apps that I had previously or had bought I just redownloaded from Google Play.
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Hey all
Ive had my XZ now for a few days and i'm over the moon with it. I was worried reading reviews and opinions on the screen etc but I really think its great. I have one small issue with it that I just wanted to know if it was normal, or if indeed I might have an issue somewhere.
Now, I've never used this project butter android before, but flicking between menus gives quite frequent "jumps" in the animation as soon on older android operating systems. Also, if I play any games, even basic 2D ones, I still get the hiccups in the frame rates. IE ill get a couple of seconds of it being totally smooth, and then a hiccup where it jumps a few frames. Its not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
Now, if I put the phone into airplane mode, then everything runs absolutely smooth, no hiccups in the UI, and games run absolutely flawlessly.
Is this normal, or should it still run totally smooth regardless of settings?
when not in Airplane mode, i checked with WIFI on and off, Mobile data On and off also. Bluetooth is always off, and so is NFC. The issue only seems to resolve itself in Airplane mode.
Can anyone help with this issue, or is it normal for this phone?
Thanks in advance :good:
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Yeah, me too. I was playing Temple Run OZ and the phone get really warm and it began to show frames and lag
Well in the end, to get around the "oh so not smooth" Sony UI, i went with a different launcher called Apex. Now its running as expected. I hope the impending update to 4.2 solves these issues as its a bit rubbish to have lags and skips on a phone this powerful. But I might just keep with the alternate launcher anyway
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Well in the end, to get around the "oh so not smooth" Sony UI, i went with a different launcher called Apex. Now its running as expected. I hope the impending update to 4.2 solves these issues as its a bit rubbish to have lags and skips on a phone this powerful. But I might just keep with the alternate launcher anyway
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it happens for all phone
little bit lagy UI
don't worry about sony UI
i saw this problem in all android phones from htc, samsung & sony
it should be fixed but even ur PC have little bit lag when using it alot
I had a similar problem(but worse) sometimes when using the stock rom.
I've replaced the stock rom and been using CM10.1 on emmc.
Sometimes when playing games the touch screen may become unresponsive but the 3 standard buttons still would work.
(as well as the hardware buttons.)
When this happens I'm not able to click on any of the icons on the home screen. (none of the control buttons work in game, either.)
I wonder if this is a hardware problem, CM10 problem, or a problem with the coding of the game (dungeon hunter 4.)
The problem actually does not last. Nook HD+ recovers by itself after about 1 minute.
Else, I could also click on the power button to turn off display and turn it back on.
Once it's back on everything is working including the in-game controls.
Does anyone have a similar problem?
I doubt this could be a bug in the game (Dungeon Hunter 4). The game is very buggy but when I play it on Nexus 7, I never experienced any control button issues. (Though it does crash "a lot" and sometimes more often than on the Nook HD+)
I had this experience before, just because of the memory going low so it needs time to respond. I advice you exit completely all your current apps and clean ram memory (also cache memory using Clean Master (Cleaner)) before playing games or heavy task. Also remember sometimes turn of completely device for few minutes and turn it back on to use. Hope this help
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I had this experience before, just because of the memory going low so it needs time to respond. I advice you exit completely all your current apps and clean ram memory (also cache memory using Clean Master (Cleaner)) before playing games or heavy task. Also remember sometimes turn of completely device for few minutes and turn it back on to use. Hope this help
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Thanks. I appreciate your help. I had this problem again today and I noticed the available ram was indeed quite low at the time.
Although it seemed unresponsive, it seemed more like being extremely slow.
Somehow if I turn off the display and turn it backs on it gets a bit better.
I suspect dungeon hunter 4 has a memory leaking problem. (memory not released completely if reload an area many times.)
I tend to have this problem if I load a lot of data in the game several times.
Strangely this does not occur on Nexus 7 based on the latest patch.
I searched in xda and it seemed last year Nexus 7 also had the same problem especially when playing certain games.
So I think this issue may come from rom which is used by nook hd+, with this issue i strongly recommend you post directly to verygreen original topic for him to discover. But if you can attacht catlog file also is better.
Here is his topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263553
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So I think this issue may come from rom which is used by nook hd+, with this issue i strongly recommend you post directly to verygreen original topic for him to discover. But if you can attacht catlog file also is better.
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Thanks. I deleted the game as it is very buggy, crashes often and with many in game bugs. I'm finally done with it.
If I encounter the same issue with other apps I'll definitely upload the log.
I had it on all roms
Hi,
No, you are not alone. The issue occurred on all roms I used so far.
Indeed it mostly shows up in games, though I think I noticed it in other apps too occasionally.
I usually use the power button, but I'll try clearing the memory in the future...
M.
Read through the "sluggish" thread and did not see my issue mentioned and thatthread seems to have become sidetracked with benchmarks and game responsiveness issues.
I am running stock nook rom, rooted and with sideloading enabled. I also use GOlauncher as opposed to the nook launcher.
What i have noticed is that after 2 to 3 weeks of use the tablet slowly starts to get slow and unresponsive. Dolphin takes time to open, and pages scroll very very slowly. Sometimes they will not scroll at all, even though theyare fully loaded and rendered. Scrolling is also noticeably slow and unresponsive in the engadget app. It is not smooth, but jerky, ifit scrolls at all. Rebooting does not have any effect.
The first time this happened i did bring the free space down to about 300meg. After reading other posts here i decided that was the issue, backed up and started allthe way over from scratch! The issue went away. I re-installed everything, got it running clean and smooth and set up just how i like it. I then took a cwm backup and put it insafe place. Fast forward 3 more weeks and i was back to slow scrolling and unresponsiveness again. At no time in that 3 weeks did i drop below 8 gig free, so i know that is not the issue.
Here is where it gets a little strange. Today, i did a full backup with titanium, then a restore from my fully config and SMOOTH cwm backup. I then did a restore all appps and system data from the titanium i made earlier in the day. I am back to smooth and responsive. This tells me there is something that is getting corrupted or not released, even with a reboot. Anyone have any ideas on what to try next time other than a restore from cwm and a reload from titanium?
I had the same issues with stock 2.1. Besides the slow game loading and random stutter for games, the device would slowly start to accumulate to slow for everything. I would like to test with 10.1 as my native stock OS, rather than 2.1.
I had a similar experience. Even after disabling nook sync apps and making tweaks, stock would eventually slow down. Something about stock 2.1 just doesn't manage its memory/cache properly.
This isn't the solution you may want, but I'd recommend trying emmc Cm10.1. Its plain, but its virtually bug free and hasn't crashed on me yet.
This isn't the solution you may want said:
I've been rooting and bootloader unlocking Android for about 3 years now and this has to be the easiest tablet to put CM 10.1 on with the latest tools. It's actually easier than my Nexus 7 when it first came out. My hair actually turned grey when I was unlocking my Note 2 bootloader. I wish every Android device was just as easy as the Nook HD+. I think part of the confusion is that in the beginning you had one method (running CM off sd card) and you now have the more current method (replacing Rom which is the most common). The development area needs to be cleaned up better because it does look confusing. I've only been a Nook HD+ owner for 24 hours and I have made my custom micro SD card, installed CM 10.1, reverted back to stock with no backup (needed to return for a bright pixel in the middle of the display), repeated process again with new tablet and made proper backups. Sounds like a lot but this is nothing compared to what I've been through.
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Seems to be because B&N has trim disabled:
http://blog.davidron.com/2013/10/fixing-lag-on-barnes-and-noble-nook-hd.html
I am opening this thread for people to discuss issues with the CM10.1 and share solution and fixes that they have found to solve these issues.
I have noted that the auto brightness does not work for me. I do not notice any change in brightness in different light settings and it seems to be frozen. Does HD+ comes with a light sensor and is it supported by CM10.1.
Another thing I wanted to ask. Can we use MHL adapters to connect a Nook to a tv through HDMI. I was looking for an alternative to Nook branded adapter.
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I am opening this thread for people to discuss issues with the CM10.1 and share solution and fixes that they have found to solve these issues.
I have noted that the auto brightness does not work for me. I do not notice any change in brightness in different light settings and it seems to be frozen. Does HD+ comes with a light sensor and is it supported by CM10.1.
Another thing I wanted to ask. Can we use MHL adapters to connect a Nook to a tv through HDMI. I was looking for an alternative to Nook branded adapter.
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I'm pretty sure there is no light sensor on a tablet that has no camera.
Overall CM 10.1 is a whole lot better than stock 2.1. Some games do not work that did with stock (Buggy Blitz, Moonshiners and NBA 2013), but all the Zen Pinball Star Wars games work (they did not with 2.1).
With CM 10.1, you can not get any more less intrusive with Android, especially compared to stock on the Nook HD+. The good news is there is no more stutter with apps and a lot of apps load faster. The bad news is some apps still load slow and there is intermittent lag when pressing to start apps or navigate. Tapatalk is an example. There can sometimes be a 5 to 10 second delay from the time the app is activated to the time there is an action. Same with navigating and with other apps as far as lag such as browsers and games. The weird thing is when games play, there is no lag or signs of touch response problems. Games play well and so do virtual pads for game emulators. The issue is not touch sensitivity, since the press registers, but sometimes takes a while before an action happens.
For whatever reason, the Nook HD+ has an intermittent lag problem that also existed with stock 2.1, though the app stutter has thankfully gone away. The lag really stands out when comparing to my S3 and Excite 7.7. Those both are stock, but respond instantly when activating and navigating apps and only have slight issues if updating apps in the background.
My Razr had a 4430 and was not laggy. The higher display res should not be a factor for such dramatic lag issue with the HD+. The lag seems to happen about 30% of the time, if I were to guess. For what I want it for, the lag is not a big issue, but seems to make no sense. Both HD+ I have used have the issue, but was hoping CM 10.1 would be the answer to fix it.
Bad memory management, perhaps? Added: Nope, if so, games in action would be laggy as well.
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You are right, there is no light sensor so autobrightness does not work.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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My Razr had a 4430 and was not laggy. The higher display res should not be a factor for such dramatic lag issue with the HD+. The lag seems to happen about 30% of the time, if I were to guess. For what I want it for, the lag is not a big issue, but seems to make no sense. Both HD+ I have used have the issue, but was hoping CM 10.1 would be the answer to fix it.
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I need precise steps to see the lag, then I can profile it and if stars align right - fix.
Hashccode encountered some bad lag on KFireHD on (what he thinks) is some bad unnecessary waiting in kernel.
I do not see any of it, though, so cannot do anything about it.
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I need precise steps to see the lag, then I can profile it and if stars align right - fix.
Hashccode encountered some bad lag on KFireHD on (what he thinks) is some bad unnecessary waiting in kernel.
I do not see any of it, though, so cannot do anything about it.
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Tapatalk seems to be a poster child app for the issue. It does seem like a wait state issue. Added: That said, it does not do it all the time, so probably not app specific. I just use Taptalk a lot. The lag seems to happen with most apps, but not all the time. 30% of the time seems about right. The good news is the stutter issue that was them main problem IMO with stock 2.1 is gone. No sign yet, in spite of the intermittent app start and navigation lag.
What app can I install to log the issue?
Thanks
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What app can I install to log the issue?
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I don't think there is a good one for logging.
I just need to be able to reproduce myself so I can poke at it from multiple angles.
It does seem to be an app start/stop and navigation lag. No lag when using touch or virtual controls in games.
Not having the stutter in the GTA games is nice. It was GTA Stutter City with stock 2.1. as in many other games. Smooth now, while playing a game.
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I'm pretty sure there is no light sensor on a tablet that has no camera.
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While I agree that HD+ may not have a light sensors, however, a light sensor has nothing to do with camera and primarily used to control the screen brightness. A camera can detect brightness through its image sensors which is separate from a light sensor.
Does stock firmware have auto brightness setting? Can not remember, but I thought it did.... I tend to not use it.
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I need precise steps to see the lag, then I can profile it and if stars align right - fix.
Hashccode encountered some bad lag on KFireHD on (what he thinks) is some bad unnecessary waiting in kernel.
I do not see any of it, though, so cannot do anything about it.
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I would like to thank you first verygreen for your efforts. You have made the HD+ such a useful tablet.
I have noticed that sometimes my screen would turn off momentarily for no reason. This happen more frequently when I am using and charging he tablet at the same time. I believe that it is due to the magnetic cover flap sensors which goes awry for some reason. Is there a way to turn this sensor off for those of us who are not using a cover with magnetic flap?
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Does stock firmware have auto brightness setting? Can not remember, but I thought it did.... I tend to not use it.
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No, as many have said here, including me, there is NO hardware sensor, so auto brightness cannot work.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
As mentioned, I do not use it, but would not be the first time for a phantom setting. Look at stock 2.1 and the slow app loading, stuttering state that it is. Not exactly a model for strict user experience QA.
Getting about 4 or 5 random reboots per day but everything else seems fine. Using greenify to hibernate apps
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Not had a random reboot yet.
Must be some misbehaving apps since I have never had random reboots. However, my screen flicker once in a while if I charge and use it at the same time.
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Getting about 4 or 5 random reboots per day but everything else seems fine. Using greenify to hibernate apps
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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You might want to check to see if you have GPS checked in location services. If you have that checked and an app like Google Maps runs in the background, that sometimes causes reboots.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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You might want to check to see if you have GPS checked in location services. If you have that checked and an app like Google Maps runs in the background, that sometimes causes reboots.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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GPS is off - not sure what's causing it - Also, i keep getting Google Sign in errors and asks for my password at least 2x daily
Intermittent lag aside, I use the Nook now more than the iPad 4. Same nice display clarity and not locked down.
Wild how an OS mod can change perspective on a device so much.
My biggest problem has been with touch, it's not that responsive sometimes and sometimes I have my finger hovering over a button and it clicks it (is that phantom clicking?).. Overall it's MUCH better than stock and mad props to all the developers. My girlfriends tablet has been getting random reboots as well, i'll check to see if GPS is on.
The M10 build of CM11 just came out, I read the blog post and saw the new version in my OTA updates (I flashed CWM to internal so I can do that and have for a few versions). I know it will probably go smoothly, but the horror stories about boot loops, soft bricks, and Android system process crashes that I've read about in the comments make me really nervous. Nobody's yet posted about the HD+/Ovation, but the first 5 CM11 M updates were all bad, even with a complete wipe, so I don't want to take the risk.
I am aware, though, that there are many users here who literally keep their devices for development and ROM testing purposes and don't have (much) personal date to worry about losing. Not so for me. So, I was wondering, could anyone do a CWM backup to SD, perform the OTA upgrade from the settings panel, and write a review/say what happens? Note that I have the most recent gapps installed, so those should be tested because they may cause issues.
Preferably someone with gapps who was going to do an upgrade anyway, so I don't inconvenience anyone by having them upgrade where they otherwise wouldn't.
You hint, but do not really say, that you already have CM11 installed. If so what version?
Many have already tried M10 and said there are issues with media scanner if you dirty install. See the CM11 thread.
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leapinlar said:
You hint, but do not really say, that you already have CM11 installed. If so what version?
Many have already tried M10 and said there are issues with media scanner if you dirty install. See the CM11 thread.
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M9, and it works perfectly, which is why I'm wary about updating. Also, the media scanner error can apparently be fixed by wiping the app's data/cache in settings and rebooting.
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M9, and it works perfectly, which is why I'm wary about updating. Also, the media scanner error can apparently be fixed by wiping the app's data/cache in settings and rebooting.
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I installed M10 over M9, and it went very smooth. The usually two reboots, followed by optimising apps, and everything is up and running again. If anything comes up, I will certainly mention it.
Seanthedroid said:
The M10 build of CM11 just came out, I read the blog post and saw the new version in my OTA updates (I flashed CWM to internal so I can do that and have for a few versions). I know it will probably go smoothly, but the horror stories about boot loops, soft bricks, and Android system process crashes that I've read about in the comments make me really nervous. Nobody's yet posted about the HD+/Ovation, but the first 5 CM11 M updates were all bad, even with a complete wipe, so I don't want to take the risk.
I am aware, though, that there are many users here who literally keep their devices for development and ROM testing purposes and don't have (much) personal date to worry about losing. Not so for me. So, I was wondering, could anyone do a CWM backup to SD, perform the OTA upgrade from the settings panel, and write a review/say what happens? Note that I have the most recent gapps installed, so those should be tested because they may cause issues.
Preferably someone with gapps who was going to do an upgrade anyway, so I don't inconvenience anyone by having them upgrade where they otherwise wouldn't.
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I went from 10.2.1 to cm 11 nightlies just a few weeks ago and was pleased except for a few glitches like screen flashes between apps. When m10 came out I decided to go for what I understood as a generally more stable rom. Unfortunately I did not wipe first as I had upgraded from previous nghtlies without a problem. I had some issues as mentioned in another thread and realized you must wipe before install and I reinstalled. So far so good and I thank titanium for making restoration so easy. I still see screen flashes and a few random crashes but it seems good.
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I installed M10 over M9, and it went very smooth. The usually two reboots, followed by optimising apps, and everything is up and running again. If anything comes up, I will certainly mention it.
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I've just upgraded to m10, it's smooth and stable
But my device is slow, maybe cpu of nook hd+ is weak
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USRobotics said:
I've just upgraded to m10, it's smooth and stable
But my device is slow, maybe cpu of nook hd+ is weak
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My HD+ also seems quite slow, especially as I load more apps on the 32GB internal card. My 7" HD has no issues with m10 nightlies, and is quite peppy.
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My HD+ also seems quite slow, especially as I load more apps on the 32GB internal card. My 7" HD has no issues with m10 nightlies, and is quite peppy.
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I had noticed an interesting sort of choppiness or hitching after first flashing M10 but it either has gone away or I'm now adjusted to it. It wasn't much to begin with but it was there. Otherwise, that was all.
My nook is ~138 apps during the cache configuration (art) upon first boot as the best number I can give for app load. Surely the more apps and the more background services running on the device the harder it will be for it to keep everything going as fast as possible. If your not on art, that might help (recovery backup first for safety + be aware of art's hunger for more internal storage).
Otherwise, its also possible to "out grow" the device and need something more powerful at the same screen size. If your needs change, the device may need to be changed. (Or similar). Too many apps and you could find yourself there.
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If your not on art, that might help (recovery backup first for safety + be aware of art's hunger for more internal storage).
Otherwise, its also possible to "out grow" the device and need something more powerful at the same screen size. If your needs change, the device may need to be changed. (Or similar). Too many apps and you could find yourself there.
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I tried ART with no improvement, so i am just going to experiment with a different build. My wife has an identical, fully loaded HD+ that zips right along on CM 10 with Jelly Bean, and my HD has no lag with KitKat, so I am not worried that the hardware will not handle the job. My son has an old Nook Tablet (pre-HD) that is really peppy on CM11 KitKat. I think all the Nook models are great for modding, and I am sure I will get this one performing as I like once I hit on the right combination.
** UPDATE ** I installed the latest Pac-Man ROM and I am now getting the performance I hoped for.
Installed M10. Did full wipe.
Was running a nightly from 03/2014 that was rock solid and fast (using ART).
All I can say to any one thinking of going to M10 is prepare to be disappointed. Its really laggy, even with other launchers, it looks terrible, the refresh rate/redraws/whatever are really obvious. Uncomfortably obvious. The screen sensitivity is really bad. Not responsive at all. I am looking forward to checking out the battery life over the next few days, because I have a sneaking suspicion it will deliver the trifecta of slower speeds, less responsive screen and worse battery life.
Trebuchet seems to be getting worse and worse. I wish Cyanogenmod would do a deal with one of the proper launchers and stop subjecting us to the substandard experience that is Trebuchet.
Oh yeah, and to top it all, the HD+ will no longer turn off. Selecting power off in the power menu just reboots the device. I now have to reboot into recovery and power off from there.
I am really disappointed. After all that effort backing up, wiping and reinstalling everything and actually took several (so many!) steps backwards.
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Installed M10. Did full wipe.
Was running a nightly from 03/2014 that was rock solid and fast (using ART).
All I can say to any one thinking of going to M10 is prepare to be disappointed. Its really laggy, even with other launchers, it looks terrible, the refresh rate/redraws/whatever are really obvious. Uncomfortably obvious. The screen sensitivity is really bad. Not responsive at all. I am looking forward to checking out the battery life over the next few days, because I have a sneaking suspicion it will deliver the trifecta of slower speeds, less responsive screen and worse battery life.
Trebuchet seems to be getting worse and worse. I wish Cyanogenmod would do a deal with one of the proper launchers and stop subjecting us to the substandard experience that is Trebuchet.
Oh yeah, and to top it all, the HD+ will no longer turn off. Selecting power off in the power menu just reboots the device. I now have to reboot into recovery and power off from there.
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I upgraded to M10 from M9 and so far had none of the issues you described. The only and somewhat minor problem is ~25% of Playstore app updates would abort on first try.
FWIW I use the Nova launcher and love it.
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I upgraded to M10 from M9 and so far had none of the issues you described. The only and somewhat minor problem is ~25% of Playstore app updates would abort on first try.
FWIW I use the Nova launcher and love it.
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I can only report the facts, I was expecting a different experience from M10. Generally, I also choose to use Nova but on M10 it is suddenly jerky, jagged and uncomfortably laggy.
I believe the Play store issue is a google issue, which seems to come and go as they update Play store app. For me, it started in March of this year, was fixed later on and then came back a couple of months later, only to disappear a few weeks later..
Update: the Power Off = Reboot issue cleared up after 3 reboots/power offs. Its now working properly.