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How widespread is this problem?

I'm on my second tilt. I returned the first one because it was impossible for me to carry on a conversation on the railroad to and from work (or in other mildly noisy situations). While I have no issues hearing the person on the other end, my voice cuts in and out to such an extent that I cannot carry on a conversation. This occurs in the morning on relatively empty trains and in the evening on crowded trains.
There is another thread in which most people have been complaining about the quality on the other end when using the speakerphone, but some had a problem similar to mine as well. AT&T claims that this has not yet been identified as a widespread issue with the device, but before I really raise a stink with them, I wanted to find out if this was really a widespread issue or not.
If this is to ultimately be useful to others, I guess it makes sense to identify which version of the Kaiser you are using.
Thanks.

Turn on Automatic Gain Control
Start / Settings / System / Microphone AGC
"Enable"
*really* helps voice quality a lot.
DLD

One of the main reasons i upgraded to the tilt (it was a huge upgrade, basic phone to a all-in-one phone) was because my phone calls dropped all the time. I thought it was because of the phone (it was old, been dropped ALOT), but I'm beginning to wonder. when talking on the tilt the other day, the other person complained that i was dropping in and out. i was pacing on the upstairs of the house, and kept passing TVs, computers and their moniters and past the wireless router, so it could be that, but, again, i don't know for sure.

That's funny, in the other thread people were saying to turn it off. It is off by default on the tilt so I never bothered to turn it on (yes, I'm a noob...). I'll give it a try...thanks!

mjizzy said:
That's funny, in the other thread people were saying to turn it off. It is off by default on the tilt so I never bothered to turn it on (yes, I'm a noob...). I'll give it a try...thanks!
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Yes, it's a curious thing the AGC. In a way it would be helpful to have a hard key for it because how well or badly it works depends on the background noise level. So in some situations you might want it off and even in the same conversation you might want it on. Also it's behaviour is affected by whether you are on speaker phone where volume level and feedback become issues. (Not the easiest thing to test out either!)
Mike

Weird, I have it both with or without the speaker.
HTC contacted me today, saying that the problem is now known with them, so they are searching for a solution.

clippy said:
Weird, I have it both with or without the speaker.
HTC contacted me today, saying that the problem is now known with them, so they are searching for a solution.
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That's very good to hear.

I thought AGC only Adjusts the volume of your voice automatically when you are recording.

TroyBoy30 said:
I thought AGC only Adjusts the volume of your voice automatically when you are recording.
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It does help, but only slightly when calling on my device.

It seems to help on my tilt as well, but I really haven't had much of a chance to test it out. I will say that, however small the sample size (and assuming it is random), it is somewhat comforting that most respondants have not had any problems at all. Maybe ours are just from a bad batch. I'm going to try calling AT&T to see if they'll swap mine out again.

I just got off the phone with HTC support again (here in Belgium). He URGED me that everybody that has the problem would report it: the more requests on the problem they receive, the faster they will start developing a fix.
So everybody, start calling HTC support and ask they make a ticket for it!

clippy said:
Weird, I have it both with or without the speaker.
HTC contacted me today, saying that the problem is now known with them, so they are searching for a solution.
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i hope they can make a fix... common htc how come thei never faced this problem on their test .. cant believe it!

My 2 cents on AGC, auto-gain automatically turns up the mic volume to capture "light" low volume sounds. It would really help capture a wispering speaker in a quiet room. On a loud train it should automatically turn it's gain down because of the loud ambient noise and I would expect the speakers voice to be harder to hear by the other party.
In a loud place I'd say turn it off, but as always, your own trials will tell what's best for you.

RemE said:
My 2 cents on AGC, auto-gain automatically turns up the mic volume to capture "light" low volume sounds. It would really help capture a wispering speaker in a quiet room. On a loud train it should automatically turn it's gain down because of the loud ambient noise and I would expect the speakers voice to be harder to hear by the other party.
In a loud place I'd say turn it off, but as always, your own trials will tell what's best for you.
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so in resume, TyTN II / Kaiser Speaker phone SUX
this is a very important feature in a phone, i don't care if it's the best PDA phone in the world... a good phone must respond as a good phone and the Kaiser doesnt...

rocho said:
i hope they can make a fix... common htc how come thei never faced this problem on their test .. cant believe it!
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Did you already contact HTC?

In some cases. Yes, but I only have issues with people hearing me while using the speakerphone.

xmoo said:
In some cases. Yes, but I only have issues with people hearing me while using the speakerphone.
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With my device, the sounds also drops when I'm calling with the phone held to my ear :-(. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

Calling HTC
I called HTC America (HTC India is more like it) to report the issue. They were very thankful and apologetic and mentioned the possibility of getting a new device. He said he was going to dispatch an e-mail about the issue to HQ immediately and that they would be sitting down with AT&T in the near future (as they do 30 days after a new phone is released with a given carrier) and would do his best to make sure the issue is addressed at that time.
Here's hoping...

mjizzy said:
I called HTC America (HTC India is more like it) to report the issue. They were very thankful and apologetic and mentioned the possibility of getting a new device. He said he was going to dispatch an e-mail about the issue to HQ immediately and that they would be sitting down with AT&T in the near future (as they do 30 days after a new phone is released with a given carrier) and would do his best to make sure the issue is addressed at that time.
Here's hoping...
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I've reported the issue to the HTC authorised service center close to 2 weeks ago. When I called up the service center, their reply is : no response from the HTC Taiwan yet..... What a surprising innocent reply from them!!!! As if they have never got any feedback on such issue before!

Hi
I wonder if the problem is caused by excessive volume of the in built earpiece? Do you have this up on maximum or high?
The inbuilt earpiece goes very loud and so the sound would easily be picked up by the microphone causing it to behave similar to when you have it on speaker phone as it tries to stop feedback and echo.
There isn't a lot that can be done about this apart from turning down the earpiece volume or using a wired headphones with mic. It may be worth turning down your volume on the earpiece to see if it improves.
Regards
Phil

Faulty speaker... perhaps?

Hi,
First post, so apologies if I'm posting in the wrong place, but I wanted to find out if anyone else is having trouble with the speaker and microphone on an S730?
I eventually received my handset from O2 UK (XDA Atmos) and managed to make 2 voice calls before the speaker stopped working. I can place calls but I can't hear a thing (completely silent), and I no longer have any key tones.
On investigation, it works fine using the supplied headset, and if I grip the phone in a particular way so to gently squeeze the top section, the speaker works again.
I've googled until I'm sick and can't find any references to this on a 730, but quite a few on the 710. Anyone else had this problem.
Oh, and just to really annoy me, O2 are out of stock, so their next day replacement is going to take 18 days!

If pressing on the case kicks it back in it sounds like something is not connecting properly anymore, its possible you could fix it but I would go for the replacement. Does the external speaker still work? I have not seen any other threads about this issue but I am sure we will.

It's hard to tell but I believe the external speaker works as it does ring. However, I'm not able to switch it to speaker phone mode. Doing so does nothing. I also seem to have more luck placing calls than receiving them.
I guess I'll just have to wait for the replacement. Bit annoying that my 'loan phone' from O2 is a nokia 6300 though - hardly comparable! Just hoping the replacement doesn't suffer the same problems...

You sir are the first one to report this issue that I have seen, doesnt mean its not but I wouldnt bet on it being too widespread of an issue. Sounds more like something went wrong in shipping / production and you got unluckey Hope your replacement shows up soon!

Well, my replacement finally turned up today..... and it works just fine. Let's hope it was indeed a one off, or damage in transit, or cosmic rays or something.

Acer Liquid - phone speaker problem

I tried to call for the 1st time today.
When I call to someone, or vice versa, other party can hear me, while I hear nothing at all via ordinary phone speaker (on the front side). Volume changes does nothing.
If I tap "Speaker" - I can hear other party via another speaker (on the rear side of the device).
If I plug the headset in - agian, it works normally as supposed.
Is my phone speaker broken or do I miss something? I played with every settings I could find, but nothing helps...
Did anyone have the same problem?
Acer Liquid, 1.6 orginal rom. I didn't have a chance to reinstall rom yet, so it should be just fine. I did install a few apps from Market.

I had exactly the same problem.
I was using ROM LCR 1.6.
I have just reflashed my phone and still the same problem, I think it is broken.
I've bought my Acer Liquid two months ago!

sounds like a hardware problem with the phone speakers. Normal calls should be heard through the speakers above the screen. speakerphone/ringtones/media sounds go through back speakers.

Had the same issue- returned it for another one.
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I had a same problem. My phone speaker does not work.

Hi guys,
Just to let you know. I contacted Acer and they immediately told me that I need to send the phone to them for repair. (maybe it's a know issue).
I did that. 3 weeks after got the phone back. It works fine now.
On the paper I got with the phone they said that the part changed is "reciever"
So for those who have the problem - send your phone back.

andrey_zi said:
I tried to call for the 1st time today.
When I call to someone, or vice versa, other party can hear me, while I hear nothing at all via ordinary phone speaker (on the front side). Volume changes does nothing.
If I tap "Speaker" - I can hear other party via another speaker (on the rear side of the device).
If I plug the headset in - agian, it works normally as supposed.
Is my phone speaker broken or do I miss something? I played with every settings I could find, but nothing helps...
Did anyone have the same problem?
Acer Liquid, 1.6 orginal rom. I didn't have a chance to reinstall rom yet, so it should be just fine. I did install a few apps from Market.
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I encountered this problem today....
I thought it was a hardware problem...
A Full Wipe cleared the issue..
You should try a full wipe before conclude that its a hardware issue...

I had this problem as well on my Acer Liquid E. Mine was a hardware issue, as when i would grip it tightly or press on the earpiece I would get intermittent sound but there was static. I did 4 wipes and nothing solved it.

michael2420 said:
I had this problem as well on my Acer Liquid E. Mine was a hardware issue, as when i would grip it tightly or press on the earpiece I would get intermittent sound but there was static. I did 4 wipes and nothing solved it.
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Sry for that! Just don't grip it tight
We all know its a very fragile device...
Acer should have engraved "HANDLE WITH CARE" on both side of the device.

I have fixed the hear speaker
Hi all! I had this problem with my Acer Liquid, I had no warranty so I tried to solve the problem and succeeded. It's not software or configuration, it's a broker hear speaker!
Symptom: You can hear the person on the other end with Loud Speaker, Bluetooth Headset and Hear Phones but you can't hear via the Hear Speaker.
Problem: Broken Hear Speaker.
His problem is reported all over the Internet but with no solution beside sending to Acer.
I risked and fixed it myself by dissembling my Liquid and find a compatible hear speaker.
Big Problem: No spares parts anywhere for this device.
Solution: Blind search for a spare hear speaker by looking at pictures and compare with broken one.
Big Solution: This speaker is also used on a series of iPaq (HP) PDA's and i found a website that sells them quite cheap.
I found two compatible models of speaker and i leave the links here.
I bought these two:
www*repairhppda*com/front-speaker-for-hp-ipaq-voice-messenger-p-1822.html
www*repairhppda*com/internal-speaker-for-ipaq-910-912-914-910c-912c-914c-p-1235.html
!! I can't post links so remove the * and put dots on the links.
I've only used one so can't say which i used because they are very similar, but one of them works for sure the other i can't guaranty but I'm almost sure it also works.
(it seems like it could fit but don't know and can't confirm... did not buy this one)
I disassembled my Acer Liquid, replaced the hear speaker, and Bang! It' Works!
Notes: Be careful when disassembling your liquid you could easily break something, take steps slowly and carefully.
If you need any hint, speak here, i'll try to answer as soon as possible.
Cheers!

I am having another problem. The people from the other side hardly hear what I say, they say my phone is too noisy, especially at the beginning of the call. The quality is ok for me, I can hear everything very clearly.
I don't know if it is a hardware problem or just (hopefully) a problem with the baseband or something like that.

I have the same problem.
I tried to flash a different baseband and apparently it started working ok but after a while the noise was back again.
The strange thing is that the noise seems to pop up only when I call from certain places and not from others.

tango13 said:
I have the same problem.
I tried to flash a different baseband and apparently it started working ok but after a while the noise was back again.
The strange thing is that the noise seems to pop up only when I call from certain places and not from others.
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Yes, it's a very annoying problem. Since the other party cannot hear me clearly, now I have to go back to my HTC Touch HD until I found a solution for this.
I bought this Acer Liquid as a 2nd hand one without invoice, so there is no way to return to Acer for a repair service.

Yesterday I received a call and I couln't ear anything, then I tried to callback (thinking it was a network problem) and I still couldn't ear anything. I used the loudspeaker and it was working, also plugged my headphones and I could ear the other party.
I then called Acer complaining, they told me the phone needed to be repaired (the quickness on the response made me think this is somehow usual), that I should put it in a box with the RMA code written on it and that they would send me DHL to pick it up. Today DHL picked the phone, so far everything as been dealt really fast and I can't anyhow complain on Acer support, lets just see how long it will take till I get my phone back.

in-call static/interference/resonance/noise problem

Hi guys,
i think there's a problem in my i9000;
whenever i make a call, i can hear low static interference in the background.
i searched both on xda and elsewhere, and although some other people complained of this problem, no one was able to determine the cause or provide a solution.
i tried different roms, froyo and gingerbread samsung roms, in addition to cm7, with different kernels and modems, heck i even changed my csc(just for sake of changing everything to make sure.. all for nothing. the problem persists.
Does anyone know what might cause such problem and how it may be solved?

i have exactly the same problem. Like you; i tried every combination which i can. I think main cause of the problem is hardware related. But my opinion is ,it can be fixed with device drivers. I looked at service manual. In the speaker part of the service manual,you can see there are two inductors and one capacitor before the speaker module. You can see the full circuit in Service Manual Page 42.
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I think these inductors(L209,L210) are interferencing with the GSM frequencies and making that static sounds on the background.
We need someone who is an expert on linux and device drivers. Maybe he can show us to find a way to break this circuit(temporarily turn off B1 and A2 pins) in a call so it will not make that sounds.
In the other hand we may have defect phones. May be the only way is to change some parts.
sorry for my bad english.

I think there's something wrong with the speaker itself.
I'm taking the phone to samsung's maintenance to see what they have to say about it.
I'll report back once i get to the bottom of this..

Same here, but it's not constant, just happens enough to be noticable, bloody annoying, and only started (or I only noticed it) a couple of days after JVP. Will be interesting to see what you find out...

One possibility, do you have your phone in a magnetic flip case? Worth checking
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA Premium App

slaphead20 said:
One possibility, do you have your phone in a magnetic flip case? Worth checking
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA Premium App
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No magnetic flip case, just a hybrid (plastic back+sillicon frame) cover.
I even took it off for a while to see if it was causing the problem, but no.

I went to samsung service center and they said it will cost about 200$ because the ear piece comes with the touchscreen..
Meaning i would have to pay for a new touchscreen even though i only need the ear piece.. How about that for service.
I checked ebay and found the whole ear piece+speakerphone+headphone jack in one bundle for 15$
so guess what my next step will be??
Buy and install the ebay part, sell my i9000(never liked tw anyway+cm seems a long way from home).. Had enough samsung for one lifetime

are you sure about the sound is coming from the earpiece ? i am asking because few weeks ago i was also assuming that the interference sound is coming from the earpiece . But i realized that it is coming from the rear speaker. Can you test it ?. In a call ,turn back the phone and put speaker hole to your ear. The interference sound is so loud that you can hear it from the earpiece hole.

yaso06 said:
are you sure about the sound is coming from the earpiece ? i am asking because few weeks ago i was also assuming that the interference sound is coming from the earpiece . But i realized that it is coming from the rear speaker. Can you test it ?. In a call ,turn back the phone and put speaker hole to your ear. The interference sound is so loud that you can hear it from the earpiece hole.
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my god, i think you're right.. it does sound like its the speaker..
what can i do to fix it?

jaikat said:
my god, i think you're right.. it does sound like its the speaker..
what can i do to fix it?
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jaikat said:
my god, i think you're right.. it does sound like its the speaker..
what can i do to fix it?
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This is the question which i am also looking for answers
Everyday i am searching for answers. Only a very few people experiencing this problem.
I think this problem is coming from the inductors in the speaker circuit part. You can look my first post .
yaso06 said:
i have exactly the same problem. Like you; i tried every combination which i can. I think main cause of the problem is hardware related. But my opinion is ,it can be fixed with device drivers. I looked at service manual. In the speaker part of the service manual,you can see there are two inductors and one capacitor before the speaker module. You can see the full circuit in Service Manual Page 42.
h**p://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2383/speakerj.jpg
I think these inductors(L209,L210) are interferencing with the GSM frequencies and making that static sounds on the background.
We need someone who is an expert on linux and device drivers. Maybe he can show us to find a way to break this circuit(temporarily turn off B1 and A2 pins) in a call so it will not make that sounds.
In the other hand we may have defect phones. May be the only way is to change some parts.
sorry for my bad english.
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i have this problem too, i live in Romania, i tough my phone was broken, but a friend's phone also does that.
i notice it when making call while 3G data was running in the background. If 3g is off = no noise.
Also i have noticed, the way you hold the phone affects it. try holding it with 3 fingers to your head the covering the mic hole with the other. you should hear some interference right there. so it's probably: speaker+ extra sensitive mic + some antenna things
Also my friend had the phone for some months now and never noticed it i searched the web and we're not alone, i found this discussion on a couple of other forums, still nothing to do, or nobody reported back after they whet to the warranty service. i would go, but i don't have any warranty on mine.

I'm also from Romania and I noticed this annoying issue today. All my other friend with Galaxy S also have this problem, so I guess it's a normal thing.
The only solution, I guess, is to use 3G networks, at the risk of draining a bit more battery.

so bottom line is that on mine, i hear noise/buzzing/interference when i use 3g networks both on the speaker on the back and the earpiece (it's louder if i use 3g data while i'm making a call) - the issues goes away completely in gms(2 g) mode
and it depend on how i'm holding it - it's louder if i grip the phone in my hand (probably the wireless signal is lower and the phone increases the power needed to communicate to the network thus experiencing buzzing sound from the speakers like radios did back with the first cell phones before receiving a call)
so i guess i'm not the only one, right?

This issue is normal I think. No big deal. If the noise however gets so loud that it interferes with your call, get it changed. But the new ones you get might have the noises too. So what is important here is to keep the noise to the minimum.
With / Without the noise is totally an unknown cause now. At least have it settled to the least noisy.
*This is happening to everyone who is getting the phone since November 2010

I confirm this issue with more models.
Hi guys!
Bought myself my GT-S5570 (Galaxy Mini) a couple of months ago. This is my first Android experience. At first I was pleased, but then I noticed this static noise whilst in call. It's like, suddenly I can have ill-isch, distorted, "noise spikes" sort of things. Left my phone in for service under warranty. When I had it back, it was still messy. Bought myself a GT-5660 (Galaxy Gio) a week ago, thinking that this one would clear the issue. It's still there, though. I'm wondering if this is something that affects the whole Galaxy series, even the tougher models like S/S2.
Related threads, by me:
android.net/forum/samsung-galaxy-mini/60951-sudden-volume-spike-during-call.html
androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/307523-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000-static-ear.html

yesterday my cousin bought i9000 too. First of all i looked for the noise. It is interesting that that phone is nearly noise free. If i gave 10 point noise to my i9000 than that phone will be 2 points. You can hardly hear the noise. After that i get her SIM card and test my phone with that sim card.Noise is still there.I make that phone software same with my phone. That phone still has no noise.
I think the problem is in phone parts. Maybe a defected series of speakers used in our phones. I will buy a new speaker module on internet. I hope that fix my problem.

For me it depends more of the network I use than the phone. It happens sometime with an iPhone.

as i stated in my previous post in this thread, in my case i was sure it was the loud-speaker, i say "was" because i sold the phone, and thats the reason why i didn't come back to this thread since..
it seems there was something wrong with the loudspeaker(on the back of the phone), and it was, at least to me, one of those things where a person might not really notice unless you're looking for it.. my bad luck had caused me to flash a certain modem and the reception was bad, so once i reverted to the previous modem i was checking for the sound clarity and that was when i first noticed the static during calls..
then i realized it was coming from the speaker, as one good man in this thread suggested. i couldn't handle it though, i could hear it every time i make a call..
it didn't make a difference whether i was on 3g or gsm or both, it was always there, unless i went into airplane mode..
so i ended up selling the phone, and bought another, but before i had bought it i put my sim inside and made sure there was no static, and there isn't, whatsoever.. thank god.
i'm sorry i couldn't find any other solution to the problem, samsung service here had said they would replace the speaker, as the part comes on its own, unlike the case for the phone speaker, which, according to samsung, is bundled with the screen, and if i had wanted to change it i would have had to pay something like 200$ to fix...
those who have this problem, check if its the loudspeaker on the back of the phone is the actual culprit, and if it is, try to find a way to replace it or something, that is if it bothers you this much. or you can just sell the phone, there's a 99% chance those who buy it won't notice anything, because they're not looking for it..
good luck guys..

[Q] Ever sound Distant, Quiet or Muffled? See if you can replicate my findings...

UPDATE: Sept, 23rd, 2013: I gave in a week ago and replaced my phone with a re-manufactured one per the suggestion of another rep. Was hesitant since I was doubtful it would solve the problem, nor did I want any NEW issues. Well, the replacement phone seems fine, except it still has the same microphone issue. A caller this weekend who hadn't actually experienced this problem with me before was very confused while talking to me... "hello? hello? You sound far away."
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UPDATE: May 29th, 2013: We are aware of the problem and there is a fix in the works, however, I do not currently have an ETA as to when that fix will roll out OTA as an update.
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Work Around 1: My personal work around so far is to hold phone steady, don't move it, and talk very evenly (no changes in volume). Occasionally have people unable to hear me, but my satisfaction with the phone has gone up now that I can control the problem more.
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Important Note: If the noise cancellation mic (top back of phone) hears your voice clearly, it may think you are background noise! Once you're registered as background noise, you'll have to be patient and wait 10-15 seconds for the phone to reset. Talking louder will lengthen the problem. Resist the urge, and speak at a normal volume until the caller can hear you again.
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I've had numerous people say I sound "distant", "muffled" or "very quiet" from time to time. It doesn't happen a lot and has been hard to track down. I now know it's not location, or signal related. The "pinky finger over mic" idea is brilliant, but I've been holding my phone with as minimal contact as possible since reading about the signal deathgrip issue to rule that one out too.
I even just called HTC on my ONE to report the problem and it started doing it. The girl couldn't believe what she was hearing.
Unfortunately, they couldn't replicate it in their offices immediately.
After some thinking, I can reproduce this problem any time now and wanted to see if anyone else could as well.
I think it is related to the dynamic MIC gain not resetting quickly enough, if at all.
Call someone and just start talking normally for a few sentences.
Turn the phone so the bottom edge (where the microUSB + MIC are) are pointing straight towards your mouth.
Speak a couple more sentences. (You may need to get it close to your mouth, you may need to speak slightly elevated to trigger the issue... But don't SCREAM AT THE PHONE; it seems to be smart enough to not be affected by this)
Revert phone to normal talking position and continue conversation.
When I do this... the other person cannot hear or make out what I'm saying for 10-15 seconds. Now obviously this seems stupid right? Who talks this way? Well, how do you talk to someone when you're looking something up on your phone during a call?
The real gotcha is that it happens to me when I'm just in a plain conversation. My thinking on that is maybe I coughed, or laughed loudly for a sec, or just accidentally moved the phone closer than I should have since I don't tend to sit like a statue when I'm in a call.
Let me know what you get, hopefully I can rule out personal phone defect vs. issue for HTC to look into for all of us.

Dude... you might have hit the nail on the head. I have exact same feedback from people.. they say "Are you there..? Can you ehar me.. " all of a sudden in the middle of a conversation. I will try this now with someone I know.. me being on the HTC One.
This is the ONLY thing bugging me. Hopefully I can replicate this.

This was basically my theory in the thread I started in General. I have a feeling that it is over-aggressive in its low-cut trying to get rid of background noise. So far since I swapped phones yesterday, I haven't had any complaints. I had a DEFINITE issue and it wasn't the pinky for me either.
Wonder if it's something that can be fixed in software.
Lauski said:
I've had numerous people say I sound "distant", "muffled" or "very quiet" from time to time. It doesn't happen a lot and has been hard to track down. I now know it's not location, or signal related. The "pinky finger over mic" idea is brilliant, but I've been holding my phone with as minimal contact as possible since reading about the signal deathgrip issue to rule that one out too.
I even just called HTC on my ONE to report the problem and it started doing it. The girl couldn't believe what she was hearing.
Unfortunately, they couldn't replicate it in their offices immediately.
After some thinking, I can reproduce this problem any time now and wanted to see if anyone else could as well.
I think it is related to the dynamic MIC gain not resetting quickly enough, if at all.
Call someone and just start talking normally for a few sentences.
Turn the phone so the bottom edge (where the microUSB + MIC are) are pointing straight towards your mouth.
Speak a couple more sentences. (You may need to get it close to your mouth, you may need to speak slightly elevated to trigger the issue... But don't SCREAM AT THE PHONE; it seems to be smart enough to not be affected by this)
Revert phone to normal talking position and continue conversation.
When I do this... the other person cannot hear or make out what I'm saying for 10-15 seconds. Now obviously this seems stupid right? Who talks this way? Well, how do you talk to someone when you're looking something up on your phone during a call?
The real gotcha is that it happens to me when I'm just in a plain conversation. My thinking on that is maybe I coughed, or laughed loudly for a sec, or just accidentally moved the phone closer than I should have since I don't tend to sit like a statue when I'm in a call.
Let me know what you get, hopefully I can rule out personal phone defect vs. issue for HTC to look into for all of us.
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k000 said:
Dude... you might have hit the nail on the head. I have exact same feedback from people.. they say "Are you there..? Can you ehar me.. " all of a sudden in the middle of a conversation. I will try this now with someone I know.. me being on the HTC One.
This is the ONLY thing bugging me. Hopefully I can replicate this.
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I'm glad it's not just me! It's frustrating especially during business calls, or conversations with older family members. Times when you really really need the phone to just work.
I've used Google Voice on another phone to call into and have made perfect MP3 recordings of this problem and already sent them to HTC. I can trigger this issue now on demand no problem by doing the above.

drbadass said:
This was basically my theory in the thread I started in General. I have a feeling that it is over-aggressive in its low-cut trying to get rid of background noise. So far since I swapped phones yesterday, I haven't had any complaints. I had a DEFINITE issue and it wasn't the pinky for me either.
Wonder if it's something that can be fixed in software.
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Excellent characterization of it, perhaps even badass, if I may.
Let me know if you still have the problem on your new phone by doing my test above with someone when you can. It's so easy to do. Just have a conversation and in the middle of it, turn the bottom mic to your mouth and talk just a little more loudly... then resume conversation. Guaranteed issue here on my phone.
And like I said, for anyone else passing by this thread... I know I'm sort of forcing the phone to have an issue by doing this, but it's just an easy way to show what has been happening to those of us with the problem during normal day-to-day conversations.
Once it happens, the louder you talk actually will make it worse. My only cure is to be silent and wait for it to "cool off" the processing it is doing. Again, not easy to do if your recipient isn't understanding.

I get the same comments from people too. They say it sounds like I talk away from the phone randomly, or cant hear what I am saying correctly. Funny thing is that when I was force roaming on verizon I never had one complaint about that. The first phone call after switching back to a sprint prl I had that complaint. So who knows

Ihave been having this problem as well. Was thinking about trying to exchange phone, but I was wondering if you ha e heard anything from HTC after reporting the issue
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junpei1337 said:
Ihave been having this problem as well. Was thinking about trying to exchange phone, but I was wondering if you ha e heard anything from HTC after reporting the issue
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I've sent them three audio samples to a special email they gave me for one of their upper tiers who wanted to look at this case specifically.
I'm able to make it happen with excellent signal, etc. and can do it every time now just by temporarily talking a little louder by turning the MIC towards my mouth.
No HTC response as of yet. Recordings were sent in 3 days ago. I'll update here as we move forward.

Lauski said:
I've sent them three audio samples to a special email they gave me for one of their upper tiers who wanted to look at this case specifically.
I'm able to make it happen with excellent signal, etc. and can do it every time now just by temporarily talking a little louder by turning the MIC towards my mouth.
No HTC response as of yet. Recordings were sent in 3 days ago. I'll update here as we move forward.
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Please do update us! If its a hardware issue that cant be fixed via software I guess I will just wait a while when they switch out their mics then exchange it :good:

Any updates Lauski?

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Any updates Lauski?
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Nada thing yet. I can still do it on demand no problem and still have people occasionally tell me they suddenly can't hear me.
I just called to check up and was told that I in fact, will be getting a call from the escalation team soon according to the notes on the ticket and they'll talk to me about my findings and may ask me to reproduce it on the fly. Obviously, I'll provide all info I learn back here.

I see...my 14 day return period was ending so I'm gonna just exchange the phone. I bought online so shipping is a bit of an ordeal.
Question, are you using an Airave by any chance? I make most of my calls off one, and haven't noticed the problem outside of using it with the Airave - altho it is a much smaller sample size. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with it. I'm also usually on WiFi when this happens.

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I see...my 14 day return period was ending so I'm gonna just exchange the phone. I bought online so shipping is a bit of an ordeal.
Question, are you using an Airave by any chance? I make most of my calls off one, and haven't noticed the problem outside of using it with the Airave - altho it is a much smaller sample size. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with it. I'm also usually on WiFi when this happens.
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Never been on an airave. I've tried in 3G areas, 4G areas, with WIFI on, with WIFI off, toggling between CDMA only and CDMA/LTE. I've had the issue in varying degrees of excellent signal and just average. I can also produce the effect (although it's not as drastic) with just using the voice recorder app.
Not that all of these make a difference, but just trying to be helpful so you know my exact situation. Let me know if after exchanging you see any improvement! I assume you're able to reproduce what I've done above with your current phone?

Update: Disappointing so far. I didn't get a call from the tech, but spoke to someone else after I received notification in an HTC Ticket. The new rep asked lots of questions, some relating to the problem, some not... he said he'd talk to the other tech (to whom I sent my audio samples) and would get back to me.

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Update: Disappointing so far. I didn't get a call from the tech, but spoke to someone else after I received notification in an HTC Ticket. The new rep asked lots of questions, some relating to the problem, some not... he said he'd talk to the other tech (to whom I sent my audio samples) and would get back to me.
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Erick_HTC is doing a Q&A on reddit later today, might be worth shooting it to him, he has gotten some answers for people in the past.
http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/1ebx9a/reminder_chat_today_in_5_hours_for_htc_one_support/
EDIT: Got you some visibility from him.
http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comm...be_answering_your_questions/c9yx5d4?context=3
As you can see, he says he and some of the guys up there are going to sit down and try to recreate the problem based on your description here. Hoping it works.

Not sure if my issue is related, but randomly on a call, usually a couple minutes in, I start getting severely choppy audio both in and out like nearly every other word is being dropped. This has happened while on a Airrave, in my car, and just standing in a parking lot.
I'm not seeing others with this exact issue but maybe someone can chime in as well? Might be I just got a lemon from a launch day pickup.

Felnarion said:
Erick_HTC is doing a Q&A on reddit later today, might be worth shooting it to him, he has gotten some answers for people in the past.
http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/1ebx9a/reminder_chat_today_in_5_hours_for_htc_one_support/
EDIT: Got you some visibility from him.
http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comm...be_answering_your_questions/c9yx5d4?context=3
As you can see, he says he and some of the guys up there are going to sit down and try to recreate the problem based on your description here. Hoping it works.
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That's awesome, thank you, I had missed it.
To update everyone else on this thread, we're moving along and I sent them audio samples recorded from the other person's end (recipient).
Seems like we are beginning to lean towards the noise cancellation mic on the back occasionally picking up your voice while in a call, and then the phone filtering your voice out, inadvertently thinking YOU are background noise. The frequency cut would make you sound far away, or like in a tunnel.
Makes sense and it may be randomly happening during a call when you switch ears, look something up on your phone, maybe turn your phone to let someone else speak with you on the phone for a moment, etc. and the mic on the back of the phone picks you up (these are personal theories).
My personal work around so far is to hold phone steady, don't move it, and talk very evenly (no changes in volume). Occasionally have people unable to hear me, but my satisfaction with the phone has gone up now that I can control the problem more.

I noticed muffled call quality as well and think it might be a defect. I noticed an issue also when I tried testing out the video quality and recorded a song playing from my stereo system. After recording it, I noticed almost all of the sound was on the left channel, and the right channel was almost non-existent. I uploaded the video to my computer to hear it and noticed the same issue - the left earphone was loud and clear, the right was very quiet.
Do those of you who have call quality issues also notice microphone issues during video recordings?

jpzsports said:
I noticed muffled call quality as well and think it might be a defect. I noticed an issue also when I tried testing out the video quality and recorded a song playing from my stereo system. After recording it, I noticed almost all of the sound was on the left channel, and the right channel was almost non-existent. I uploaded the video to my computer to hear it and noticed the same issue - the left earphone was loud and clear, the right was very quiet.
Do those of you who have call quality issues also notice microphone issues during video recordings?
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I'm having the same problems.....call recipients complain of my voice going in and out. I originally thought it was a defective mic. However, when I tried to record my voice like jpzsports, both left and right channels produced clear sound. I've also tried covering both rear and front mics while recording my voice...the muffled sound only occurs when I cover the front mic (which would be expected).
I'm leaning towards lauski's theory. It does seem to be some type of defective noise cancellation software that chooses to actively cut out my voice. At least, that's the only thing that would make sense if the mic seems to be functioning properly.
Let me know if you guys figure anything else out!

I can replicate the problem all the time by holding the phone with my shoulder instead of my hand. I thought it was my otterbox or I was blocking a Mic but I'm not...Hope a SW update fixes it.
Btw it's my left shoulder pressed against my ear.
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