[Q] Flashing same Android version, different countries? - Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello, noob question
Is it possible to flash the same android JB version 4.1.2 with the difference of "PDA" name? Ex: flash from a UK firmware to a german one without any risk of bricking?
thanks:laugh:

kommand said:
hello, noob question
Is it possible to flash the same android JB version 4.1.2 with the difference of "PDA" name? Ex: flash from a UK firmware to a german one without any risk of bricking?
thanks:laugh:
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yes no issues will be there...

kommand said:
hello, noob question
Is it possible to flash the same android JB version 4.1.2 with the difference of "PDA" name? Ex: flash from a UK firmware to a german one without any risk of bricking?
thanks:laugh:
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Yup, you'll face no issues....
Please vanish the thanks option...

Some China ROMs can cause problems like hardbrick.

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[Q] New to Galaxy Note/Android PDA/CSC

Hi all, I've just got a few questions that I would like to have clarified.
So my basic understanding so far is that, even if I live within Australia, ICS is not dependant on the country of where I am but the origin of where the phone originated correct?
If so, then am I correct in saying that my phone is from Switzerland?
PDA: N7000XXLA6
PHONE: N7000XXLA4
CSC: N7000OXXLA1
My question is that am I able to change the origin by flashing(not sure if I'm using the term correctly) the phone to another GB rom correct..?
And then from there I would be able to update to ICS corresponding to the GB rom I flashed, eg. changed to Hong Kong GB -> Hong Kong ICS?
Thanks !
Yes you can. But its much easier to just flash the ICS version you after.
Belfia said:
Yes you can. But its much easier to just flash the ICS version you after.
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Do you mean to just wait for the Switzerland version of ICS?
No. I mean if you want for example hong kongs ICS version. You dont need to flash first hon kongs gingerbread. Just download and flash wichever ICS version you want without going through GB.
Oh I see. That makes much more sense now.
Thanks !
hey hi, im from Sri Lanka but my note is from France and they still not got it yet. i downloaded the PDA for sri lanka..
If im using Odin to flash do i need just the PDA (which i already have dowloaded for Sri Lanka region) or do i also need to find the CSC and PHONE files for it as well.. please reply soon.. i just cant wait..
thanksss
Belfia said:
Yes you can. But its much easier to just flash the ICS version you after.
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What about the hard brick bug? Isn't it risky?

Can I flash a different region firmware on my international note?

I have a galaxy note with italian baseband. My question is can I flash it with another region's firmware (asian firmware)?
Yes you can!
Yes.You can always flash any region firmwares on your phone.But the firmware should belong to your phone model.i.e N-7000 firmwares on N-7000,and I-917 firmwares on I-917.Which means firmwares are devices specific and not region specific
If you cant understand any of the above,the exact answer for your question is yes you can
would this affect my warranty? & flash count? and another question could i directly flash with an older firmware, im currently on 2.3.6 i was wondering if i could flash 2.3.5?
engson said:
would this affect my warranty? & flash count? and another question could i directly flash with an older firmware, im currently on 2.3.6 i was wondering if i could flash 2.3.5?
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1.It wont affect warrant as long as you are in stock firmware.But if you have a network locked device I'm not sure because I have no network locked device in my region.If you have international unlocked note,you are 100% covered by warranty as long as its stock
2.Stock roms dont increase counter.Only custom roms do
3.You can flash any GB rom when you are in GB(to make it simple IMO)
Does this also apply to other devices?
That it is possible to use different firmwares.
(in this particular case LG optimus black p970)
Yup
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Can i flash a differrent region firmware without root?
engson said:
I have a galaxy note with italian baseband. My question is can I flash it with another region's firmware (asian firmware)?
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Noooooo ..... if u do that it fakes your imei .....
DirtyFredd said:
Can i flash a differrent region firmware without root?
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Yes you can. You can us Odin for PC to do it. Do some searching on the n7000 forums and you will find all the necessary files and flashing tools.
I recommend checking out this excellent thread by Dr. Ketan http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It explains everything in detail so you should be good to go if you read through it properly.
Hope this helped and good luck!
mchandu said:
Noooooo ..... if u do that it fakes your imei .....
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What? Oh no.
nokiamodeln91 said:
What? Oh no.
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Seeing posts like his I switch to "relax & ignore"-mode
vijai2011 said:
Yes.You can always flash any region firmwares on your phone.But the firmware should belong to your phone model.i.e N-7000 firmwares on N-7000,and I-917 firmwares on I-917.Which means firmwares are devices specific and not region specific
If you cant understand any of the above,the exact answer for your question is yes you can
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what if i want to flash an international stock rom in a unlocked sprint note 5??? can I do that?
Marshmallow update for SM-G928I
Hi guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ (SM-G928I). However, I still didn't get marshmallow update for this phone. Can I flash this phone with a different model firmware? Such as SM-G928F or SM-G928C?
Chathuskadilhan said:
Hi guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ (SM-G928I). However, I still didn't get marshmallow update for this phone. Can I flash this phone with a different model firmware? Such as SM-G928F or SM-G928C?
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If they have different hardware then it's a big No.
Can i flash different region's as well as different baseband
I have Samsung Galaxy Core 2 SM-G355HXXU0AOB1 and I live in Pakistan, so if i flash another region's such as India and the baseband will be different, will this effect my phone like the SIM, Carrier and problems like that.??????
And if someone could post the link for my device,, it must be Pak and same one as mine i would be very happy..... becz i was trying to update my cousin's phone (its his phone actually) and i SCREWED UP so the phone jst hangs on first screen (TWRP and Download mode work though) and i cd use some help..........BTW the source was a Marshmallow update which caught my eye ( http ://www .galaxystuffs .net/2016/02/marshmallow-rom-galaxy-core2.html ) if smone wants to check it out and tell me what i did wrong......cz i have to fix it for him its up to me. I think it's BRICKED....
Remove the spaces in the URL plz
i have flashed my S6 to ANDROID MM 6.0.1 "Spint" i have no network now! what should i do?
Flash correct Rom version
Can i flash sm-g920i(s6 asian firmware) on sm-g920t1 ??
Surya5656 said:
Can i flash sm-g920i(s6 asian firmware) on sm-g920t1 ??
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As long as the hardware is same in both phones.........

[Q] Downgrading to 4.1.1 with 3 Sweden

Hello, I updated my system to 4.1.2 and rooted it so as to unlock the phone after which I found out that the only way to carrier unlock this phone is with 4.1.1
How do I safely downgrade so as to get 4.1.1? The phone is locked to 3 here in Sweden. I guess I need a Nordic version but have not found it.
I am very new to this so as detailed help as possible would be appreciated.
Model GT-I9305
Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version I9305XXBLL5
Kernel version
3.0.31-746327
[email protected]#1
Thanks
Roger
Hi..
You have to look and learn from the forum.
As a noob its dangerous to flash firmwares.
Info is provided everyware on the forum.
Its not against the law to search just breafly on the forum and google.
Google search: Downgrade i9305
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Premium HD app
Because its dangerous is the reason I ask for help here and of course I have googled.And I dont find anything about swedish/nordic firmware only people downgrading in England or the States. That is why I ask the question here.
Since I have sucesfully rooted my device I dont consider myself a noob, just careful.
So instead of stating the obvious like suggesting googling, maybe point me to a proper firmware that I can downgrade with.
Or a thread with relevant information.
Peace
If this is what to use which file should it be? This is why I put my initial question..
Using Odin is a breeze, its something else to know what to flash with so you dont brick your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935570
Ok.. what ever..
Go to www.sammobile.com
There is where every one finds his or her firmware.
Register... goto firmware section... chose
Smartphone..android...i9305.. and the apropriet language for your phone..
The reason no one answeres this question is becaus its like telling you where to get toilet paper.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Premium HD app
Shortcut if you are unsure about witch firware you have: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/
Shortcut Swe firmware: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=GT-I9305&pcode=TLA#firmware
Tigervilja said:
If this is what to use which file should it be? This is why I put my initial question..
Using Odin is a breeze, its something else to know what to flash with so you dont brick your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935570
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Use any of stock 4.1.1, unlock it and then flash it with latest Nordic 4.1.2
I guess it must be the file from November 2012 to use with Odin for any GT-I9305 from Sweden then, regardless of carrier? Not the one from September?
This one to use?
I9305XXALK5_I9305TLAALK1_TLA.zip
So if I downgrade to 4.1.1, do the unlock procedure, then it is as easy as to upgrade to 4.1.2 again using Odin and all should be back to normal. Correct?
The carrier unlock procedure can only be done on 4.1.1
Thank you for helping out!
Ok Djembey, just saw you posted a reply and that answers the question then. Many thanks
TLA is Telia and not Nordic, NEE is Nordic. And remember to do a full wipe after changing to another CSC to get OTA updates.
Glad I checked back here, was just about to do a downgrade using TLA firmware. This feels shaky to say the least :/
On Sammobile I can only find the 4.1.2 firmware NEE,I9305XXBMA3_I9305NEEBMA1_NEE.zip, where to find the 4.1.1?
So downgrading and updating using the NEE firmwares will make sure I receive OTA in the future?
And do I need to do a full swipe both after downgrading and then again when I update to 4.1.2 after unlocking?
Many thanks!
Tigervilja said:
Glad I checked back here, was just about to do a downgrade using TLA firmware. This feels shaky to say the least :/
On Sammobile I can only find the 4.1.2 firmware NEE,I9305XXBMA3_I9305NEEBMA1_NEE.zip, where to find the 4.1.1?
So downgrading and updating using the NEE firmwares will make sure I receive OTA in the future?
And do I need to do a full swipe both after downgrading and then again when I update to 4.1.2 after unlocking?
Many thanks!
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ANY 4.1.1 for the I9305 can be used! You will only use it for the unlock.
So is this the correct procedure?
1.Downgrade using TLA
2.No swipe
3.Unlock device
4.Upgrade using the NEE firmware
5.Then do a full swipe
Done
Thank you
CalInTheZone said:
TLA is Telia and not Nordic, NEE is Nordic. And remember to do a full wipe after changing to another CSC to get OTA updates.
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FYI: Stock ROM NEE is for all Nordic Countries and it's better than TLA as is updated more frequently.
CSC_NEE contains settings for 34 Nordic Networks.
Btw, he's with 3 Sweden....
Tigervilja said:
Glad I checked back here, was just about to do a downgrade using TLA firmware. This feels shaky to say the least :/
On Sammobile I can only find the 4.1.2 firmware NEE,I9305XXBMA3_I9305NEEBMA1_NEE.zip, where to find the 4.1.1?
So downgrading and updating using the NEE firmwares will make sure I receive OTA in the future?
And do I need to do a full swipe both after downgrading and then again when I update to 4.1.2 after unlocking?
Many thanks!
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Downgrade to 4.1.1 with ANY Stock ROM, unlock your phone and then use latest Nordic. "3 Sweden" is included in it.
djembey said:
FYI: Stock ROM NEE is for all Nordic Countries and it's better than TLA as is updated more frequently.
CSC_NEE contains settings for 34 Nordic Networks.
Btw, he's with 3 Sweden....
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You can't tell me anything about the CSC's used in the Nordic countries...
djembey said:
FYI: Stock ROM NEE is for all Nordic Countries and it's better than TLA as is updated more frequently.
Downgrade to 4.1.1 with ANY Stock ROM, unlock your phone and then use latest Nordic. "3 Sweden" is included in it.
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Like I wrote...
CalInTheZone said:
TLA is Telia and not Nordic, NEE is Nordic. And remember to do a full wipe after changing to another CSC to get OTA updates.
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CalInTheZone said:
ANY 4.1.1 for the I9305 can be used! You will only use it for the unlock.
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If you have nothing new to contribute why bother to post?
Tigervilja said:
So is this the correct procedure?
1.Downgrade using TLA
2.No swipe
3.Unlock device
4.Upgrade using the NEE firmware
5.Then do a full swipe
Done
Thank you
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Right on... Except ANY 4.1.1 can be used not only TLA.
CalInTheZone said:
If you have nothing new to contribute why bother to post?
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I've posted this before you did.
Your post just made OP confused! !!!!!!!!
djembey said:
Use any of stock 4.1.1, unlock it and then flash it with latest Nordic 4.1.2
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djembey said:
I've posted this before you did.
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You will need a Tardis to convince anybody about that... Because you did not... Read again..
djembey said:
Your post just made OP confused! !!!!!!!!
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LOL... This was a joke right?
CalInTheZone said:
You will need a Tardis to convince anybody about that... Because you did not... Read again..
LOL... This was a joke right?
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Are you blind and stupid???
Check post #6!!!!!!!
djembey said:
Are you blind and stupid???
Check post #6!!!!!!!
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Neither... Guess it's you... And stop calling ppl names!
So either you confused Tigervilja or you were fist to answer his questions... You can't do both. So decide did you confuse or did you help? If you helped you were not first, if you were first you confused.
And if you call anybody names in the future I WILL report your posts.
CalInTheZone said:
Neither... Guess it's you... And stop calling ppl names!
So either you confused Tigervilja or you were fist to answer his questions... You can't do both. So decide did you confuse or did you help? If you helped you were not first, if you were first you confused.
And if you call anybody names in the future I WILL report your posts.
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LOL!!! should I give you a hug?
Well, I hope you guys are out there. I succesfully downgraded to 4.1.1, unlocked phone and then started Odin to upgrade to latest NEE firmware
but the upgrade failed. Now it only starts in emergency mode and asks me to attach to Kies. Trying to run Odin again only fails.
What do I do now?
Hopeful :/

update my GT-I9070

hello...
i have GT-I9070 with zslk3 firmware and its gingerbread
i want to update it to jelly bean
so what firmware should i use?can i use firmware from other country?
ndandau98 said:
hello...
i have GT-I9070 with zslk3 firmware and its gingerbread
i want to update it to jelly bean
so what firmware should i use?can i use firmware from other country?
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u can use other countrys firmware; if ur handset is NOT carrier based.
ndandau98 said:
hello...
i have GT-I9070 with zslk3 firmware and its gingerbread
i want to update it to jelly bean
so what firmware should i use?can i use firmware from other country?
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If your phone is unlocked and is not carrier branded then you're free to install any (good) Jellybean firmware...
But if your phone is carrier branded (like Claro, Sprint, Verizon, Vodaphone, Orange, etc) then you have to flash their respective Jellybean firmware...
Sent from my GT-I9070
Yes you can use firmware from another country buy only if your phone is not carrier branded, you can flash a JB firmware or rom if you like.GB is kind of outdated
i think my phone is unlocked cause i can use it with indonesian carrier...i bought my phone in HK...
thanks for your respond guys...
Sent from my GT-I9070 using Tapatalk 2
Just don't flash it with China/Hong Kong firmwares. They caused hardbrick and imei lost in some devices.
arffrhn said:
Just don't flash it with China/Hong Kong firmwares. They caused hardbrick and imei lost in some devices.
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I just downloaded 2 firmware...from indonesia and hongkong...flashed indibesian vrsion and its says fails...but not with hk version its passed but i got problem with screen calibration...any suggestion firmware?
ndandau98 said:
I just downloaded 2 firmware...from indonesia and hongkong...flashed indibesian vrsion and its says fails...but not with hk version its passed but i got problem with screen calibration...any suggestion firmware?
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WHY did you flash Honkong - he told you not to flash it.
arffrhn told: Just don't flash it with China/Hong Kong firmwares. They caused hardbrick and imei lost in some devices.
Now you will probably have problem when you try to use another firmware...,
Use this to downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195673
But people said that Honkong version can't be downgraded: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516926
shut_down said:
WHY did you flash Honkong - he told you not to flash it.
arffrhn told: Just don't flash it with China/Hong Kong firmwares. They caused hardbrick and imei lost in some devices.
Now you will probably have problem when you try to use another firmware...,
Use this to downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195673
But people said that Honkong version can't be downgraded: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516926
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I flashed before he reply it...so what must i do?downgrade it firs right?
ndandau98 said:
I flashed before he reply it...so what must i do?downgrade it firs right?
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Yes. But I am affraid that you will get problems. Lot of people told that Honkong Firmware can't be downgraded... Try.
shut_down said:
Yes. But I am affraid that you will get problems. Lot of people told that Honkong Firmware can't be downgraded... Try.
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So what FW must I use? Stock HK gingerbread?or another country?u have suggestion?
ndandau98 said:
So what FW must I use? Stock HK gingerbread?or another country?u have suggestion?
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As I know we can downgrade just with those files in that guide I gave you. And you can't use other Firmware to downgrade.
Try with that guide, if that fails - I have no idea how to downgrade HK FW.
shut_down said:
As I know we can downgrade just with those files in that guide I gave you. And you can't use other Firmware to downgrade.
Try with that guide, if that fails - I have no idea how to downgrade HK FW.
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Last time i downrage my phone with ZSLK3 and its work...but i dont know with other FW...or i just downgrade with ZSLK3 GB and re upgrade with another country FW with JELLYBEAN?
ndandau98 said:
Last time i downrage my phone with ZSLK3 and its work...but i dont know with other FW...or i just downgrade with ZSLK3 GB and re upgrade with another country FW with JELLYBEAN?
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I am not sure, I never had that FW on my phone - I just read other people expirience. I know that when I tried to downgrade just with my country GB I got stuck on bootloop - needed to use that files from guide.
shut_down said:
I am not sure, I never had that FW on my phone - I just read other people expirience. I know that when I tried to downgrade just with my country GB I got stuck on bootloop - needed to use that files from guide.
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And then after downgrade it with FW in that guide are u uprage your phone to jelly bean or not?if yes...what FW are u use?
ndandau98 said:
And then after downgrade it with FW in that guide are u uprage your phone to jelly bean or not?if yes...what FW are u use?
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My country Serbia Firmware. I use it since it was out. Once I made mistake and I flashed GB over JB - I got that bootloop. And I reflashed JB.
So after you go back to GB you go to JB just like you did now.
shut_down said:
My country Serbia Firmware. I use it since it was out. Once I made mistake and I flashed GB over JB - I got that bootloop. And I reflashed JB.
So after you go back to GB you go to JB just like you did now.
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What jellybean FW should i use?
ndandau98 said:
What jellybean FW should i use?
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I think that you can't use any other than that HK now - I read people can't have signal with any other. But search little to see if someone manage to install other FW.
shut_down said:
I think that you can't use any other than that HK now - I read people can't have signal with any other. But search little to see if someone manage to install other FW.
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Actualy,now i'm on jellybean with ZSME3 HK...and i only got problem with horizontal sensor...and someone says that i must downgrade my phone to GB and recalibrate?
are there any other ways to recalibrate it without downgrading?if yes i think i dont need to downgrade cause i dont have other problem til now
ndandau98 said:
Actualy,now i'm on jellybean with ZSME3 HK...and i only got problem with horizontal sensor...and someone says that i must downgrade my phone to GB and recalibrate?
are there any other ways to recalibrate it without downgrading?if yes i think i dont need to downgrade cause i dont have other problem til now
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I know why you need to downgrade, I read both threads. Yes, you will need to use GB to calibrate it. As R_a_z_v_a_n told you it that thread.

[Q] If update official update from different country will baseband change?

Hello guys, i will explain the story in order, sorry for my bad Grammar.
first i have the official GTI9070 but i forgot the baseband (GB)
then i accept software update that appear in notification bar, my baseband become I9070DXLK2 (GB)
and i see there's CM11 out that can make kit kat running in I9070.
but it requires root to install CMW / TWRP..
so hard to find root zip for DXLK2, and then i found one full ROM rooted then flash it with odin.
my baseband still I9070 (GB) but rooted (binary counter++)
after that i flash TWRP with odin too.
then i try flashing CM11 with TWRP.
it success, but no mobile network.
i search at this forum and someone say "no mobile network happen because flashing from GB (2.3.x) directly to KK (4.4.x)"
he said first update from GB to official samsung JB.
the problem, there's no official samsung JB update for my country/region (DXLK2)
my question, if i flash the official samsung JB update from other region.. let say it italy.. will my baseband change?
if it changed, what's the problem and whats the negative impact? what should i do better?
thx in advance.
PS: my device is Samsung Galaxy S Advance GT-I9070 (Indonesian)
amaDetoir said:
my question, if i flash the official samsung JB update from other region.. let say it italy.. will my baseband change?
if it changed, what's the problem and whats the negative impact? what should i do better?
thx in advance.
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You don't have any negative impact if you flash any stock JB firmware, only with your warranty if you still have one.
Please, follow this guide from point A (JELLYBEANIZATION): [GUIDE] From stock GB to Custom JB (Noob-friendly)
After you updgraded to JB, ask/read some tutorials linked here: [{INDEX of GUIDES/TUTORIALS}] Galaxy S Advance [GT-I9070].
Be sure when you proceed to do something OR ASK before, NOT AFTER you doing something wrong.
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
You don't have any negative impact if you flash any stock JB firmware, only with your warranty if you still have one.
Please, follow this guide from point A (JELLYBEANIZATION): [GUIDE] From stock GB to Custom JB (Noob-friendly)
After you updgraded to JB, ask/read some tutorials linked here: [{INDEX of GUIDES/TUTORIALS}] Galaxy S Advance [GT-I9070].
Be sure when you proceed to do something OR ASK before, NOT AFTER you doing something wrong.
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thank you for the response.
i'll tell the result later after i can download it, at my office the download link show 404 Not Found (maybe blocked)
Search JB on www.samsung-updates.com.
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amaDetoir said:
thank you for the response.
i'll tell the result later after i can download it, at my office the download link show 404 Not Found (maybe blocked)
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Or maybe removed. Try on samsung-updates.com or sammobile.com
In Canada, have XXLK2 (Africa?). Want JB, use UK version?
I bought my unlocked I9070 almost 2 years ago and am thinking about upgrading to Android 4.1.2 (JB).
On samsung-updates there appear to be lots of JB versions for different regions.
Can I just select the one for Britain (XXLQE)? Is there anything I need to check re: compatibility?
coghlan said:
I bought my unlocked I9070 almost 2 years ago and am thinking about upgrading to Android 4.1.2 (JB).
On samsung-updates there appear to be lots of JB versions for different regions.
Can I just select the one for Britain (XXLQE)? Is there anything I need to check re: compatibility?
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Yes you can flash any stock firmware for I9070. Be sure you don't flash firmware for I9070P.
Powered by CM11 M11 snapshot
Flashing worked...once I found a .zip file
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
Yes you can flash any stock firmware for I9070. Be sure you don't flash firmware for I9070P.
Powered by CM11 M11 snapshot
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I had a lot of trouble trying to get the samsung-updates.com download to work (used the free one, which either didn't start most of the time or died during download). Eventually, I took the filename (for Britain) and Googled it, and found a download site that let me download it (required 3 hours).
Armed with the .zip file and ODLIN, it worked like a charm. All my installed apps and data survived, which surprised me. I thought this would be a vanilla install.

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