I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.
I sold my N4 and bought an XZ. The only advantage the N4 has is that it's a Nexus, I run Cyanogenmod though so that's pretty much a non issue for me. Also, the N4 has a much more active dev community. Obviously it's cheaper too. I prefer the XZ in every other way though.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
as the upper guy said go for the XperiaZ if u like giving your phone a shower every week
and have you checked ZL cause it is smaller with same 5inch screen
it's lighter also it has a better sound since its not rugged
Thanks for your reply about the ZL. According to the Sony website it's a few grams heavier but a decent bit smaller dimension wise. It's not available over here yet, but I'm going to keep an eye out for it.
I'd be interested to hear opinions about two issues that have come up in the reviews:
1) Software flaws that require the phone to be restarted to resolve
2) How the phone feels against your ear during calls - this sounds a bit of a strange one I admit!
Finally, does anyone have any information about the cost of Sony replacing the battery. Having replaced the battery (quite easily) on my Samsung Galaxy after about a year I'd be interested to know how easy/costly it is on a device such as this. I know Apple replace them on the iPhones for £55.
If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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The camera on the N4 is awful
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...z-vs-htc-one-vs-iphone-5-vs-lumia-920-1137666 this article shows that although on paper the experia z's specs are on par with the current lineup of flagship phones, its real world performance it barely edges out last gen
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The camera on the N4 is awful
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Again I don't own a nexus 4 myself nor do I rely on my smartphone's camera so I wouldn't really know. Under those conditions I guess I really shouldn't of given input on the camera
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I have both a N4 and XZ. I'd strongly recommend the XZ for LTE and the camera, if those matter to you. The N4's camera kind of sucks.
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I wouldnt make the jump or wouldnt pay extra 200 for XZ over nexus 4, its a good phone but not a lot of dev for it, so far we have 1 kernel developer and maybe 4-5 good roms dev after 3 months coming out. I dint think it was a big jump from S3 to XZ.
CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak. XZ is comparable to N4 but I dont think it can compete with HTC one or S4 and thats coming from someone who own the phone for more than a month.
P.s Dont come on this forum and ask for opinion, youtube and look at your options, most on here are either Fanboy or Sony employee.
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I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.
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Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update
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Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update
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Its really not more powerful (on paper it is) and the nexus 4's design isnt too shabby either.
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CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak.
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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.
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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb
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That wasn't a memory leak though, it was a gpu scaling issue and has been fixed (for me at least). It was a very minor issue and I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't pointed out.
Others have pointed out the price difference. This is absolutely right. Having the N4, if the XZ wasn't given to me, I wouldn't have gotten it. Between the 2, the N4 is half the price. If you're looking to spend money on one or other, the N4's definitely a bigger bang for the buck. While I do firmly believe that the XZ is a better all around phone, I can't honestly say that the differences you get warrant the additional 300 bucks.
Well I guess it depends on where you live but I'd only save 40SEK (About 6.50USD) A month on the Nexus 4.
And the salesman was really pushing the nexus4 so I guess it isn't to popular here in Sweden either. So the choice was easy for me.
Aannyyway, I went with the Z, obviously. Mostly for the water resitance as i broke my S2 from water damage and my arc got dropped once to (but it survived)
I love this phone, I don't have any issues with it. Except that you NEED to buy good screen protector, one with lifetime warranty perhaps.
You do not wan't to scratch the Anti-Shatter Filter. ( I actually returned mine because I did and got it replaced)
Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.
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Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.
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Xperia Z has open AOSP Sources, with time there will be a perfect AOSP rom, and the roms we've got now are perfectly fine, they're great actually, the Carbonrom is almost flaw free. and Cyanogenmod works great as a daily driver, few lag bugs and radio isn't working afaik.
I paid as much for the xperia z then I would for the nexus 4. And I get waterproof and bigger screen. So it was easy to make the call and expendable memory is nice too. Both would cost 300 euros. Defiantly the Xperia Z is the better phone for the same price.
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I have a N5 ordered, to be shipped Dec 3.
With shipping, the 32gb comes to $460 CAD. I currently have a N4 16gb that can be sold for $250 I'm guessing.
Since I've been running Rastakat 4.4 on the N4 with ART enabled, it feels really smooth and the battery life also seems improved - almost as much as the N5 battery life estimates.
I do love a nice screen and wouldn't mind the extra pixels on the N5 and having a touch thinner device.
Am I alone in this?
You are not alone
I am seriously considering getting the N5. Since the N4 is close to its 18 month support, I am probably going to upgrade.
Why don't you save the money and buy the next Nexus phone instead? N5 is nice but not worth the $200 upgrade. I also updated my N4 to 4.4 with ART and it is so smooth.
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If you have the extra money I see no reason not to upgrade. Me personally, I'm gonna wait till next year when they start releasing 64-bit phones, until then I'm fine with my N4
I don't play much videos on the phone, I don't use my Nexus 4 for the sole purpose of web browsing, I don't play many games that require any fancy screen, my Nexus 4 isn't broken.
And I don't feel the $200 upgrade is worth it.
These points sure convinced me when I had to cancel my pre-order.
I'm staying with the n4. The biggest upgrade on the n5 was LTE but the n4 has LTE in Canada (you quoted Canadian prices so I'm assuming you are in Canada)
I'm either getting the next nexus or a n5 when google clears them out next fall
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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
If you sell your devicae for 250$ and get the nexus 5, it's only 200$ you're spending that that doesn't seem too bad off, if i could fine someone to buy my nexus 4 (in clean condition, has had a cover as well as screen protector since day of purchase) then i would more than be willing to sell my nexus 4 in favor for a nexus 5. But i can't be bothered searching for a buyer, that's the only reason i'm not doing so. Haha!
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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
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I agree. I still have my Nexus 4 and do not feel N5 is much better. Unfortunately I need Wifi calling at home so I finally bought an LG G2 for $450 from eBay(almost brand new with a manufacturing date of less than 2 months) That is about the same price as a 32GB N5 but with much more. For pure android experience, I have enough from N7, N4, and Nook HD+ on CM 10.1. For Wifi calling, taking pictures, and traveling, LG G2 meets my needs much better due to the camera and larger battery. I wish I could sell my N4 for $250. My local price is down to $150-$200 due to too many people selling it... I might just keep it as a backup phone or test platform.
I also thought about upgrading..but with a 2014 car payment I think I'll skip it.
Running 4.4 and its real nice and smooth.
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In the nexus 5 forum I'm seeing terrible battery stats compared to n4. Guys are posting as low as 3hrs max screen time, much less than I get on lte. With art I doubt you'll constantly notice a difference between this and the 5.
I will upgrade for 4K recording like note 3, Flex screen or 1440/2160P screen, 3gb ram, and cpu that can beat A7x.
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Got one for my daughter as she was on my old iPhone 4. I used it for a couple of days first. In day to day usage, I can't see any difference tbh. Honestly, wait till N6 so you feel the benefit of the upgrade. Plus the camera (while taking better pictures) is slow as molasses. It's just not that compelling an upgrade and build quality is not nearly the same, it feels bit Samsung-ish...
It's not a bad phone at all, but it's just not that big a jump from N4.
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Nexus 5 is still a 'meh' upgrade. The spec bump is nice but it could, no, should've been better. Especially the battery, that part is a big turn off. Design wise, though fragile, Nexus 4 still looks sexier.
A lot of interesting things are gonna happen in 2014, I'd wait till mid 2014 to see what to upgrade to.
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I wanted the n5 solely for the camera and 32gb storage. I'm debating on if I should upgrade. I kept my n4 in near perfect condition so I can get 200+ for it. But I'm still not sure if I want to spend basically $225, which is a good deal imo, but I also like hoarding my money
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It's your money, buy it if you want, if not don't buy it.
I always try and come up with reasons what I would change in my current phone/gadget and see how the phone I am considering fares with the new needs.
So if I were to look at the N4 i'd change:
- Battery life
- Camera
- Slightly bigger screen
- Louder speaker
- Louder ear piece speaker
- More space (32gb)
So speed wise its great. It's smooth and I doubt I need a processor bump that much. I dont need LTE.
So lets see how the N5 stacks up:
- Battery - marginally better. Or maybe even not.
- Camera - sure it's better in theory. But reading reviews makes me think that I will be changing something that is horrible to something that is simply isn't very good.
- Screen seems to be a big improvement, but again viewing angles seem to have been a bit meh
- Speaker on the N5 is actually quiter than the one in N4, so a big no no
- Earpiece speaker on the N5 doesnt seem to be any better than in the N4, only maybe there is no N4 static.
- N5 sold where I am from come only in 16gb versions, so...
So following logic and not the simple desire of owning a new gadget, I will be skipping the N5. It simply isnt the phone that will make me replace my N4
Depends on what you expect to use your N5. I personally will stay with N4 until it dies
Personally, I wait for the N6. The N5 is nice and has stunning specs, but it lacks the 'wow-factor'. Nothing wows me on that phone. Yeh, the screen is nice and the SoC is a beast, but still, it lacks something special. Something unique.
One of my friends bought the N5 and I could use it for some time. My first opinion was that it is not a great upgrade for me. My N4 is still a great phone. Its smoth, quick, no lags and I can run every app that I need.
Unless the build a better battery which a big improvement I wont buy a new Phone.
For me it´s not worth the 200+ $ but its your desicion.
I have a N4 and had the N5 for a week. I decided to return it because the new email app has a bug which doesn't allow anyone to use Exchange email - endless sync loop which doesn't push new messages and kills the battery. I personally couldn't get Exchange email on my phone and that was a deal breaker. Take a look and you'll see numerous threads about it and not much of a response from Google.
Just bought a new house, wife's going crazy buying furniture, shopping for the wife's luxury SUV, and our first kid is due in less than 2 months.
I'll survive without an upgrade this year.
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Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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should definitely change to Z1. You won't regret it. the Z was a good phone but it got some problems preventing it to be a great phone, and sony fixed them all in the Z1. I can't think of a better phone at the moment.
Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is awesome I can cover the whole day with heavy use, the best android phone I have ever had concerning battery.....camera is also good not good as battery life but is good enough
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Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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I can absolutely recommend the Z1 .
Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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Lol honestly the Nexus is amazingly smooth and fast but I admit the feel of a z1 is second to none you can tell its pure quality. Well I have some serious thinking to do but thanks for the input guys
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Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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He just said its hideous which it is .
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Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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Hello mate, I actually had both phones and I would highly recommend the Xperia Z1. The only aspects where N5 beats the Z1 is the software updates, developmental support and a more compact form. Check out my video comparison between the two:
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cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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Im sure it is, however, based on beer goggles the day of my reply and the fact that N5 is a fairly physically challenged device, I do apologize for not 'metaphorically' extinguishing any flames that may have otherwise saved a perfectly good yet otherwise beautiful device and I might add, that only a mother could love.
Not hating or trolling just observing and sharing an opinion.
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Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.
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Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.
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Totally agree with you, I've had exactly the same feeling/iter....
I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.
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I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.
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I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....
I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.
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I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....
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I sold my HTC One, brilliant phone but hasn't got anything on the Z1.
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I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.
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As far as 4.2.2 works well I'm fine with the fact that we're stuck here (for now). I think that Android version doesn't matter as long as the phone works well. I bought my Z1 a week ago and before that I was on X10 with gingerbread and I didn't had any problems with that. I tried custom ROMs with 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 on it but it had some bugs (like camcorder not working) and the most important thing is that everything works fine.
About being light, I believe that Kit Kat is. But faster!? I'm using my Z1 for a week now and I installed tons of apps, I'm playing heavy games and listening to music in the same time, then switching between games, browser and poweramp and the Z1 didn't lagged not even once! This phone is a beast and I think that it can't get faster than this.
I would really like to get Kit Kat but the 4.2.2 works perfectly so far and while it's so, there's no rush for an update. Being faster (which is almost impossible) is not enough for an update. I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements. Otherwise, the update wouldn't make any sense.
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I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements.
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This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.
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This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.
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This is the only advantage of Nexus, it has to have something otherwise people won't buy it All other is better on Z1: camera, screen, design, waterproofness, memory etc.
Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?
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Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?
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Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!
Coming from the cdma Samsung galaxy nexus (Verizon).
I love the battery life and how smooth it runs compared to the gnex.
Coming from the nexus 4 I love how light the phone is and the soft touch in the back, so sexy
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Coming from too many phones to list I like the N5 for its perfectly calibrated super sharp and super bright screen. Of course I like it for many other reasons as well but the display stands out and also stands above the rest
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Single feature I like is stock android right out the box and getting updates straight from Google.
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Coming from the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) I LOVE the battery life of this phone. Amazing.
for me it was the ability to run a true AOSP rom which I couldnt do with my d2spr
not a"cheap" device
the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
Coming from a Galaxy S4 I love using Vanilla Android with Gravity Box. No bloated skin etc. Love the Nexus line. Definitely sticking with it.
storm007 said:
the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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Moto X has a nicer build quality but i was like NAH to its 720P Screen and its badder camera and its lacking of the newest flagship CPU/GPU
the Snapdragon 800
$349 for a top-of-the-line smartphone... sorry breh, that's DIRT CHEAP
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the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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How does this have anything to do with this thread? Cheap is a relative term, you're right the nexus really isn't a "cheap" device, its quite good quality. But in comparison to other similar devices it is a VERY low priced device.
My single favorite thing about the N5 specifically is probably the sheer speed and smoothness, its so gratifying to use the phone even for just basis tasks. Most of my other "favorites" about the N5 could probably be applied to the whole nexus line in general.
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Pizza_Dox said:
Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!
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I would have to agree with Pizza_Dox, we both came from the Xperia PLAY forum. Of course the single best thing about the XP was the dedicated built-in game controller. The N5 is so freaking fast and smooth on everything I throw at it... so Performance... hands down.
Coming from the S4, I love the total lack of Touchwiz and all that Knox nonsense.
Coming from the xperia play as well I love the screen size/look if this phone. The xperia play was 4 inches and I have giant hands. It made the game pad awkward to use. The screen also was pretty low quality I think it was 480p. This one blows it away.
I know it's only one thing but I gotta say a second one. It's nice to have the newest android version. On the play I was constantly flashing Roms because of being stick on ginger bread
Also the thin size of this. Lol too many good things for me to pick just one
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Coming from N4
lots of things but if it has to be only one
SCREEN. marvelous. crystal clear and has far better colors to my eye.
Comin from a Galaxy ace I love the performance !
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-Snapdragon 800!
-Being able to say I own a 'Nexus', sounds awesome doesn't it! Lol.
Google has done a superb job IMO.
Came from n4 and probably the snapdragon 800 + bigger screen and better camera over the n4. Everything else is just a plus
I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.
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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.
I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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japmeet said:
Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.
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I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there
Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.
I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...
Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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wolfen69 said:
That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.
I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?
I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.
I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family
I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.
I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.
My first Nexus device was the Nexus 4. I loved the quick updates but the battery life was pathetic and it seemed to age quite quickly. I then moved to a Samsung Galaxy S4 but got annoyed over the slow updates around November 2014, I purchased the Nexus 5 and I have been really happy with it. Battery life still isn't that great (although much better than the Nexus 4) but the quick updates are amazing. It's also aged really well and still running reasonably ok. I wasn't keen on the Nexus 6 as this is far too big but I am now starting to think of what phone I should get to replace the Nexus 5.
What phones are you all considering? The obvious choice seems to be to wait for the next Nexus phone but I'm not sure if they'd keep in line with the Nexus 5 or 6 (they might do both). Plus, it'd be quite a few months away so in the meantime I was thinking of the LG G4 as LG seem to be quite good with updates.
Thoughts and suggestions?
N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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DummyPLUG said:
N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Still didn't change their bad behave, you will never believe the cost down of their product. Company like sharp and HTC will tight control everything use in their product down to rev., sometime it may down to specific batch and have a quite large margin for the design. For average user you won't notice anything, but if you take a look at the circuit you may wonder by their miracle.
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I do not agree. It is my opinion that HTC is not the same, and does not have the same quality that they did years ago. It is also my opinion that Samsung devices have seriously gone down in quality.
For power users like us, we desire top of the line devices. We expect them to perform to a standard that the average user does not.
For the average user who just needs to check email and receive MMS picture messages of their grandkids, cheap Chinese phones can't be beat. If you want more, then yeah you have to pay more and buy from a bigger named company.
I´m also happy with my Nexus 5 and this device is still one of the best around, in terms of performance.
If I were you, I would wait a few months for the next Nexus device to be released. Who knows, maybe Google will release a Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) or a slightly smaller Nexus 6 ( 2015 ) ?
Its nice to have a new phone every now and again, but I would wait a while to see what happens with the next Nexus phone; it might just make you fall in love with the Nexus family again.
I think they will make a smaller Nexus phone this year. I'd like a 5.5 or 5.2in device with thin bezels.
I just wish it would be small enough (5") and has a better camera hardware (Nexus 5's is quite a bit lacking).
Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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alen1901 said:
Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Ok you convinced me, patience is a virtue after all I'm sure the next Nexus would be awesome, I really don't like the direction they went with the Nexus 6 but rumours say that this was originally part of the Android Silver program (or whatever it was called) and it was only switched back to a Nexus phone last minute. Anyway, fingers crossed that the next Nexus is as awesome (or more so) than the Nexus 5 and equally good value for money.
I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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If the next Nexus is released in October then I think we're due for some major rumour/leaks about now. The feature at the top of my wishlist for the phone is a very large battery with some serious battery optimisation. Together creating a phone that exceptional run time far more than anything else on the market.
The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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This was my thinking with the LG G4 because the line of phones has stood the test of time. The LG G2 was released over a year and a half ago but it's still holding up well and LG are still supporting it with Lollipop (although it takes a while for the update to reach the phone). Something tells me the LG G4 could easily be supported for 2 years if not more. However, although the battery is around 3000mAh, it doesn't have amazing battery life. Much better than the Nexus 5 and would easily take most through the whole day but I'm really thinking that a phone that can easily take most people through 48 hours is a new standard that should be strived by manufacturers.
The s6 is tempting for me. I'd be gutted if nexus realesed a beast though. Can't beat pure android.
I owned a Nexus 6 for a couple months. I never liked the size and couldn't get used to it. I also hated the shape of the phone. It was not stable laying a desk. Surprisingly, I use my phone one handed while it lays on a desk a lot to send texts. That weird curved back wobbles and spins if you try to use it one handed like that. I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
I have switched back to my Nexus 5 and sold the 6 and am so much happier. I know now that I never want a phone larger than the Nexus 5. I am also on Sprint which makes buying a non-carrier phone virtually impossible. Basically I am stuck hoping the Nexus 5 refresh is small or keeping an eye on something like the Galaxy S6/HTC M9 AOSP custom rom scene which I really don't want to mess around with.
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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
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..I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
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We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I too dont have a camera, but really phones cant substitute real camera. The only devices which are close are lg g4 and galaxy s6, but these devices are flagships, i dont think you will see that kind of camera on nexus phone because.. Well, its a nexus. If they make it a budget phone again, im sure you wont get that great camera. But maybe google surprises us.
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