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Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Stamina Mode not working?
look at my screenshots
the first two days the difference with and without stamina-mode was huge...so from 1day to 3-4 days
sync is off
facebook deaktivated
and lots of other things are deaktivated
only whatsapp is on
what could the problem be?
if stamina mode is on...every thing is deaktivated...there aren't extra apps which still will down/upld data in stamina mode
Akkuschonmodus - I do not have this enabled along with Stamina mode.
Why are you if you are on 92% ?
Should have nothing to do with this problem tho.
Kind regards, Stefan.
stamina mod dont work
hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you
feskysvk said:
hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you
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yeah i have the same problem
futurama said:
Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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i experienced this too
and don think any problem
cause when u use phone and apps they store lots of data that need to process (the exclude apps in stamina)
So time will reduce.
i had 4 days now i have 1day.14hrs BUT after 48hrs it didn't use even 50% of battery. (it was 54% )
anyway if u think u have problem restart ur phone with power button + vol.up (hold down 10 seconds)
and then turn on ur phone.
Or reset factory.
Hi Guys. I posted this in other forum, and been an XDA member I thought, why not posting this here also, although I know that what I'm posting here most of you have already discovered or worked with it, but just in case you haven't or maybe it can help other newbie member looking for an answer.
So here it's just as I posted it in the other forum (Sorry for those of you that have read it over there).
Some of you won't even read this thread completely, some others maybe interested to know what I've done in the past couple of weeks to have the great battery life I'm getting right now, for the past couple of days, after I finished making all the adjustments I'm getting 6.50 - 7+ hours of screen time, twice as much as I was getting with my S4, 1.25+ more than I was getting during the days I used the M8 (no longer with me), so for those of you interested I decided to give you some hints and explained in details what I've done. Please remember that this is solely based on my needs and phone usage, so you do the adjustments that you think can fit your needs and leave the others as default.
Brightness and Display - I adapted myself since my S2 to use low brightness, I can say that about 20%, I only use the Auto option when I need it, but most of the time been at Home or at the office I don't need the brightness too high. I'm using Adapt Display after 1 year using Normal Mode in my S4, just for trying, so far it's good this way for me. My Screen Timeout is 1 minute, But if you don't need it on that long just leave it as default.
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Bloatware - From the Samsung Apps I just left on of S Health, Smart Remote, Calendar and Memo, before disabling S-Voice (Just in case) I disabled the Home Key Activation, then I installed the Gear manager to be able to use my Gear 2 Neo. From Google I disabled Google Play Music (It has been in the past a Battery killer, maybe is better now but I have no use for it on this phone as I have all my music on my SD card) and Google Books, but installed a lot of other Google apps (I think the rest of them, jaja). I also disabled Polaris Office as I have other Office Suites purchased. And all the T-Mobile stuff. (All of these I've noticed that run on the background draining your battery)
WiFi - I turned off the Smart Network Switch, because when I'm at home or in the office, connected to my wifi, I move around a lot and I stay at wifi range edges a lot, so this feature can be switching on and off constantly and it will cause battery drain. then I turned off Network Identification as I don't need this, and one thing I have learned, at least in my case is that leaving the Wifi on all the time drains the battery a lot, so I changed the "Keep Wi-Fi on during Sleep" option to Only when Plugged in. I'm at T-Mobile, so I have the wifi calling feature, it's great but I leave it off until I need it.
TouchWiz features - I love TouchWiz, for me all the others Android Skins are plain and boring, so I use a lot most of it's features, but I just turn them on only when needed, there's a reason why we have those Toggles there, so I edit them and rearrange them in the order I want so I have it available when I need them. The only options I leave on all the time are the Motions and Gestures and Air View, because I use them all the time.
Location - Just like I mentioned above, I just turn this on when needed, and even then just select if you can use the Power Saver mode. Also, I don't need Location reporting, but I do use the Location history for my Google Now and other Google Apps.
Google Now - Be sure the Location settings are in order with the above and I disabled the "OK Google" default feature as by it's nature, this is all the time on and "listening" waiting for the command.
Ultra Power Saving Mode - Great feature that I turn on every night while I sleep, in 7+ hours activated it has used only 1 % of battery.
Developer Options - Well this is something that I don't know exactly how it affected but for me it did something, let me explain, I decided to give it a try to the ART option on the Runtime System, I heard that for some it helped with the battery and performance so I did it, well it took a long time after it rebooted, and it took almost 1GB of my System memory just by doing this change, but I tried it for a day, after I saw that I didn't see any difference I could notice other than most available ROM, with Dalvik it was always using 1.40-1.5 of the 1.81 GB, with ART it went down to 1.1 and after 1 reboot I saw going to 1GB, so I like that, but, I began having the No-Response power button that some people have reported when trying to wake up the device I decided that I was going back, well, in a summary, it went back to Dalvik a lot quicker, I got my 1GB of Memory back, and for my surprise the ROM usage is lower than before, when I got the phone and until I did this, it was never lower than 1.4GB, but now after switching back I'm getting 1.2 most of the time. So I'm guessing that switching to the other one and back cleared some other stuff that was there by default. Why I'm letting you know this, well, immediately after I switched back to Dalvik I began noticing better battery life (I'm talking since Friday), it may be just a coincidence maybe not, but it won't hurt trying it if you don't find any other solution.
Well, that's all I can remember for now, if I remember something else I will post it as a follow-up, so I hope that this can be of some help to some of you new to Android and maybe some of you that are not new to Android but new to Samsung Galaxy line and are a little lost on how to have a better battery life.
For now, here it's my last Battery Stats, before I re-charged yesterday morning, I'm still at that Full Charge now, In full use now that I'm back at work and my Car Bluetooth connection and my Gear 2 Neo, so this afternoon I will have a better idea, but as of now I still have 33% battery left after 22hrs 48 mins on battery and 4h 38m Screen On time, so it seems to be going strong for 7 hrs of screen on time.
Google Now
Which of the location settings do I need on for Google now to still work? I wanna try to keep all the google now functionality enabled. I had pretty bad battery life my first full day with the phone. (I cant post imgur links since I'm new here). but basically my "Awake" bar on the battery history was solid blue all day. Phone died after about 13 hours of being on and 2 hours of screen time. Android OS and Android System took up the majority of my battery. The phone was awake the entire day and I couldnt figure out why. I turned off the wifi settings as you mentioned above and disabled as much of the samsung crap as I could find. I do leave location on all the time, but on "Power Saving" mode, not sure if thats making a huge difference.
Any input is appreciated.
Looks fine but I get 7 hours of screen time on auto brightness but set to a couple of notches below Centre. And screen mode on pro, for natural colours. The other things seem logical, though ultra power saving mode for night time seems a bit extreme. I have it on normal and it uses about 4 per cent overnight.
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AMoosa said:
Looks fine but I get 7 hours of screen time on auto brightness but set to a couple of notches below Centre. And screen mode on pro, for natural colours. The other things seem logical, though ultra power saving mode for night time seems a bit extreme. I have it on normal and it uses about 4 per cent overnight.
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what location settings do you have?
AMoosa said:
Looks fine but I get 7 hours of screen time on auto brightness but set to a couple of notches below Centre. And screen mode on pro, for natural colours. The other things seem logical, though ultra power saving mode for night time seems a bit extreme. I have it on normal and it uses about 4 per cent overnight.
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Ultra Power Saving Mode while I sleep doesn't hurt anything, anyway, I won't be using the phone all night, once I wake up I turn it off immediately and everything goes back to normal, so no harm.
hokie2012 said:
what location settings do you have?
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Exactly as you see in the picture, I have Google Now working and finally my Screen On Time is greater than Android System and OS.
erasat said:
Exactly as you see in the picture, I have Google Now working and finally my Screen On Time is greater than Android System and OS.
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What uses the Location Reporting..what does disabling it remove?
hokie2012 said:
What uses the Location Reporting..what does disabling it remove?
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It will be better for you to read the following information:
https://support.google.com/gmm/answer/3118687?hl=en
erasat said:
Ultra Power Saving Mode while I sleep doesn't hurt anything, anyway, I won't be using the phone all night, once I wake up I turn it off immediately and everything goes back to normal, so no harm.
Exactly as you see in the picture, I have Google Now working and finally my Screen On Time is greater than Android System and OS.
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erasat said:
It will be better for you to read the following information:
https://support.google.com/gmm/answer/3118687?hl=en
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Great, thanks a lot. I am gonna try these settings and see how it goes. I was a little disappointed before, but hopefully these can right that. I do like the location history, but not if its drains my battery like that.
S5 doesn't consume much battery at night, between 1 and 3% percent max as i have noticed without Ultra Power Mode.
You gave good tips for optimisation to those who haven't done that yet.
I suggest people to install Juice Defender as it will disable data and renable it only when screen is on or every xx minutes it's off (it makes a big difference on LTE networks now).
kthz said:
S5 doesn't consume much battery at night, between 1 and 3% percent max as i have noticed without Ultra Power Mode.
You gave good tips for optimisation to those who haven't done that yet.
I suggest people to install Juice Defender as it will disable data and renable it only when screen is on or every xx minutes it's off (it makes a big difference on LTE networks now).
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I get what you mean, but my case was more like 4-5% lost overnight, so losing just 1 with ultra power saving mode saves me 3 to 4% that I can use later on the day for about 15 more minutes of screen on time, and again, I'm not using the phone while sleeping so I don't see the need for not using the Ultra Power Saving Mode.
Follow up, I just arrived at home and even when I didn't get the 7 screen on time that I thought I'd have, I ended with 6 hours. My phone usage while working is very different than when I'm at home, plus connected receiving emails by the dozens, using Calendar, memo and other working stuff, plus the Mobile signal is at the borderline of bad, and it switches a lot from LTE to 4G and vice versa so getting 6 hours of screen time on over 30 hours on battery after a full day of work where my S4 was giving me not even 4 hours is really great and it keeps amazing me.
Thank you!
So far today I'm at 1 hour of screen time, my awake bar is now only solid when the screen is on and I'm at 87% battery with the phone unplugged for 3 hours. Finally Android OS and Android System are much lower, thanks a lot!!!! I just changed the wifi advanced settings and the location settings.
Sir.
Im having the non-responsive power button issue. ot took me a lot of uninstalling to some apps(greenify and gravity screen) now using gravity with no problem. dont want to test greenify though. but that problem was really a big issue. I couldnt even make the power button work.
Do you know if this is some kind of software issue or hardware problem?
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I think its great and all, but honestly.. except for bloatware, I have everything on. Google now included. GPS ALWAYS on. brightness to max. the fact is, our phones come packed with great features and I bought it for most of them, I don't want to lose them to get some extra battery life.. and you know why? Because with everything still on I get over a day easily with heavy use still. Back in the day with my EVO, sure I wanted some battery saving tips because I couldn't make it a day. If I forget to charge my phone now, I'll wake up and still have close to 30% left, a quick ride to work charging it and boom, back to over 50% and that'll be just fine even with heavy use.
After all that said, we have removable batteries for a reason! and nothing beats having an extra one just in case.
Anyway, my opinion but I guess this whole battery squeezing more tips is like the Prius's drivers coasting to stop signs and red lights from a mile away to save an extra 2mpg
erasat said:
I get what you mean, but my case was more like 4-5% lost overnight, so losing just 1 with ultra power saving mode saves me 3 to 4% that I can use later on the day for about 15 more minutes of screen on time, and again, I'm not using the phone while sleeping so I don't see the need for not using the Ultra Power Saving Mode.
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lucky you, i go to sleep at 100% and wake up with 66%. Since im not rooted i cannot view wakelog stats. All i know is the biggest battery drainer is "Android System"
exge said:
lucky you, i go to sleep at 100% and wake up with 66%. Since im not rooted i cannot view wakelog stats. All i know is the biggest battery drainer is "Android System"
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Hey I figured I shared my experience here since I also had a massive battery drained from android system. I am rooted but u can still try this to attempt to stop the darn android system. here is what worked for me. I charged my phone 100% then I left my phone on full power save mode. Here is what I found out....my android system wouldn't go below 26%....after 6 hrs of full sleep now is at 18% and im not getting any wakelocks....ill post my screen shots...
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Here are the screen shots
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i just tried for fun to check, and lo and behold, my google now hotword was detection was on.
switched it off, and now after a full day, im at 70%
I am actually getting around the same times with my stock out of the box s5 with nothing turned off.....
erasat said:
Hi Guys. I posted this in other forum, and been an XDA member I thought, why not posting this here also, although I know that what I'm posting here most of you have already discovered or worked with it, but just in case you haven't or maybe it can help other newbie member looking for an answer.
So here it's just as I posted it in the other forum (Sorry for those of you that have read it over there).
Some of you won't even read this thread completely, some others maybe interested to know what I've done in the past couple of weeks to have the great battery life I'm getting right now, for the past couple of days, after I finished making all the adjustments I'm getting 6.50 - 7+ hours of screen time, twice as much as I was getting with my S4, 1.25+ more than I was getting during the days I used the M8 (no longer with me), so for those of you interested I decided to give you some hints and explained in details what I've done. Please remember that this is solely based on my needs and phone usage, so you do the adjustments that you think can fit your needs and leave the others as default.
Brightness and Display - I adapted myself since my S2 to use low brightness, I can say that about 20%, I only use the Auto option when I need it, but most of the time been at Home or at the office I don't need the brightness too high. I'm using Adapt Display after 1 year using Normal Mode in my S4, just for trying, so far it's good this way for me. My Screen Timeout is 1 minute, But if you don't need it on that long just leave it as default.
Bloatware - From the Samsung Apps I just left on of S Health, Smart Remote, Calendar and Memo, before disabling S-Voice (Just in case) I disabled the Home Key Activation, then I installed the Gear manager to be able to use my Gear 2 Neo. From Google I disabled Google Play Music (It has been in the past a Battery killer, maybe is better now but I have no use for it on this phone as I have all my music on my SD card) and Google Books, but installed a lot of other Google apps (I think the rest of them, jaja). I also disabled Polaris Office as I have other Office Suites purchased. And all the T-Mobile stuff. (All of these I've noticed that run on the background draining your battery)
WiFi - I turned off the Smart Network Switch, because when I'm at home or in the office, connected to my wifi, I move around a lot and I stay at wifi range edges a lot, so this feature can be switching on and off constantly and it will cause battery drain. then I turned off Network Identification as I don't need this, and one thing I have learned, at least in my case is that leaving the Wifi on all the time drains the battery a lot, so I changed the "Keep Wi-Fi on during Sleep" option to Only when Plugged in. I'm at T-Mobile, so I have the wifi calling feature, it's great but I leave it off until I need it.
TouchWiz features - I love TouchWiz, for me all the others Android Skins are plain and boring, so I use a lot most of it's features, but I just turn them on only when needed, there's a reason why we have those Toggles there, so I edit them and rearrange them in the order I want so I have it available when I need them. The only options I leave on all the time are the Motions and Gestures and Air View, because I use them all the time.
Location - Just like I mentioned above, I just turn this on when needed, and even then just select if you can use the Power Saver mode. Also, I don't need Location reporting, but I do use the Location history for my Google Now and other Google Apps.
Google Now - Be sure the Location settings are in order with the above and I disabled the "OK Google" default feature as by it's nature, this is all the time on and "listening" waiting for the command.
Ultra Power Saving Mode - Great feature that I turn on every night while I sleep, in 7+ hours activated it has used only 1 % of battery.
Developer Options - Well this is something that I don't know exactly how it affected but for me it did something, let me explain, I decided to give it a try to the ART option on the Runtime System, I heard that for some it helped with the battery and performance so I did it, well it took a long time after it rebooted, and it took almost 1GB of my System memory just by doing this change, but I tried it for a day, after I saw that I didn't see any difference I could notice other than most available ROM, with Dalvik it was always using 1.40-1.5 of the 1.81 GB, with ART it went down to 1.1 and after 1 reboot I saw going to 1GB, so I like that, but, I began having the No-Response power button that some people have reported when trying to wake up the device I decided that I was going back, well, in a summary, it went back to Dalvik a lot quicker, I got my 1GB of Memory back, and for my surprise the ROM usage is lower than before, when I got the phone and until I did this, it was never lower than 1.4GB, but now after switching back I'm getting 1.2 most of the time. So I'm guessing that switching to the other one and back cleared some other stuff that was there by default. Why I'm letting you know this, well, immediately after I switched back to Dalvik I began noticing better battery life (I'm talking since Friday), it may be just a coincidence maybe not, but it won't hurt trying it if you don't find any other solution.
Well, that's all I can remember for now, if I remember something else I will post it as a follow-up, so I hope that this can be of some help to some of you new to Android and maybe some of you that are not new to Android but new to Samsung Galaxy line and are a little lost on how to have a better battery life.
For now, here it's my last Battery Stats, before I re-charged yesterday morning, I'm still at that Full Charge now, In full use now that I'm back at work and my Car Bluetooth connection and my Gear 2 Neo, so this afternoon I will have a better idea, but as of now I still have 33% battery left after 22hrs 48 mins on battery and 4h 38m Screen On time, so it seems to be going strong for 7 hrs of screen on time.
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thegrants82 said:
I am actually getting around the same times with my stock out of the box s5 with nothing turned off.....
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Well lucky you then, i have a massive wake lock issue but cannot find whats causing it.
exge said:
lucky you, i go to sleep at 100% and wake up with 66%. Since im not rooted i cannot view wakelog stats. All i know is the biggest battery drainer is "Android System"
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I have found that on mine too, and controlling which apps were using location & how frequently helped a lot. Life360 was my worst offender by far. If I toggle off location the usage flat lines and Screen stays as top power user.
I have ended up uninstalling life360 and leaving location on.
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If you're like me and you are sadly having less battery life than you were on KitKat try following this guide, and see if this helps improve your battery performance.
Required;
No-Frills CPU Control
ROM Toolbox
In the below screenshots are how I set up No-Frills and my Kernal Tweaks for the governor (interactive). Also, powersave mode. You don't have to use gray scale, but it helps tremendously. I would use applications like leandroid, but for some reason they won't work. At all. If anybody knows a fix please share and I will update the OP.
Have any other tips? Share the knowledge with us! Have anything you changed and helped more? Share the knowledge! Many thanks will be given to those with knowledge.
Nyxerosoir said:
If you're like me and you are sadly having less battery life than you were on KitKat try following this guide, and see if this helps improve your battery performance.
Required;
No-Frills CPU Control
ROM Toolbox
In the below screenshots are how I set up No-Frills and my Kernal Tweaks for the governor (interactive). Also, powersave mode. You don't have to use gray scale, but it helps tremendously. I would use applications like leandroid, but for some reason they won't work. At all. If anybody knows a fix please share and I will update the OP.
Have any other tips? Share the knowledge with us! Have anything you changed and helped more? Share the knowledge! Many thanks will be given to those with knowledge.
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Hey this is the developer of LeanDroid. I'd be happy to help if you are having issues, just ask in the LeanDroid thread!
Near constant usage of screen time. About 3 quarters of the way through was when I arrived home. Decided to go all the way and overclock my device and see how long it takes to die.
I am stock 5.0 and not rooted... I have been getting 6 hours + of screen on time with heavy use. I keep my data off since I'm always on WiFi at home, even when away it stays off unless I specifically need it for something... Not sure about kitkat, but lollipop has the automatic data feature, where, say u have your data off, someone sends u an mms message, your phone will turn data on long enough to download attachment, then turn itself back off again... pretty cool imo...
DMF1977 said:
I am stock 5.0 and not rooted... I have been getting 6 hours + of screen on time with heavy use. I keep my data off since I'm always on WiFi at home, even when away it stays off unless I specifically need it for something... Not sure about kitkat, but lollipop has the automatic data feature, where, say u have your data off, someone sends u an mms message, your phone will turn data on long enough to download attachment, then turn itself back off again... pretty cool imo...
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Wish I didn't have to use my 4gLTE as much as I need to. Would love to get 6 on screen with heavy use.
i guess my usage would be the equalivent of hypermiling a car.. This is the first run since updating, although didnt beat my longest run of 3 days. ive used power saving 24/7 since i got my phone and it was connected to wifi virtually 100% of the time. On screen time 3h 42min.
DMF1977 said:
I am stock 5.0 and not rooted... I have been getting 6 hours + of screen on time with heavy use. I keep my data off since I'm always on WiFi at home, even when away it stays off unless I specifically need it for something... Not sure about kitkat, but lollipop has the automatic data feature, where, say u have your data off, someone sends u an mms message, your phone will turn data on long enough to download attachment, then turn itself back off again... pretty cool imo...
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How are you turning off data? I don't see it on the drop down menu.
Capa1970 said:
How are you turning off data? I don't see it on the drop down menu.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721550
Player04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721550
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Thanks, however I was wondering how he turned off data because he mentioned that he was stock and not rooted (as I am).
Capa1970 said:
Thanks, however I was wondering how he turned off data because he mentioned that he was stock and not rooted (as I am).
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Settings>Data Usage>Mobile Data
My battery use has been good until the last couple of.days. Given houses of the phone not being touched, lost 10%. Now I am getting this huge spike drops any time I use my phone. I might have to reset, just hate to. I'm in a microcell so signal is great. I haven't used power saving, just turned it on a few minutes ago. I don't know my brightness percent, but it is low. Any ideas?
Also a couple of odd things for me.. Why is this app showing in my data when I either uninstalled it or disabled it. I can't remember now if it is one that can only be disabled.
Oh forgot the screen on screenshot.
Corporate email account can really drain the battery
Be aware that corporate email account (both exchange or IMAP) can heavily drain the battery due to security setting in the background, regardless Android 4.4.4 or 5.0.1. I had an IMAP based corporate account (which enforces some security measure by adding the company as an administrator). I have only 20% left by 5pm with minimal usage. In the Battery stats, both "Andorid System" and "Android OS" show 20%+ usage. After I deleted the corporate account (moved to Aqua Mail), Andorid System" and "Android OS" shows 10% usage by 5pm. I usually have 50%+ left around 6pm with minimal usage.
i got my device updated to B133 it said it increases battery performance but it seems my battery is draining fast...anyone having the same problem??... can anybody give a better solution
I have a "similiar" problem - my devices starts rebooting or bootlooping (not sure whats exactly is happening) when reaching 100% Battery (I'm currently trying to finger out).
In my Screenshoot you can see, that the phone is totally offline about 1-2hours at night while charing.
Chillkroete_ said:
I have a "similiar" problem - my devices starts rebooting or bootlooping (not sure whats exactly is happening) when reaching 100% Battery (I'm currently trying to finger out).
In my Screenshoot you can see, that the phone is totally offline about 1-2hours at night while charing.
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i didnt observed something like that cz i never charge overnight... but the phone heats quicker in the day light and the battery drains faster than before
This is just my personal experience.
I own Huawei P10 UK variant with carrier bloat (Three) firmware version: VTR-L09GBRC555B150.
Since I got update I had really terrible battery life.
The phone didn't last me a day with on average 2.5-3h screen on time. To improve my battery I dived deeper in settings and here is what I find.
Turn off auto brightness in notification menu.
Go to settings>battery and click on" lock screen clean up" close apps that you want to stop using WiFi /data when device is locked - is amazing to see how many apps actually use data when screen is off.
In same section turn off "Remaining battery percentage"
Also go to settings>more>mobile network and turn off "mobile data always on"
In settings>wifi unmarked wifi+ option.
After these adjustments your phone should really improve in battery department.
Also if you receive any update from Huawei it's a good thing to do factory reset to stop apps from using extra resources from before update.
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Somewhere earlier this year I started getting a 20% overnight battery drain. On a few nights it didn't drain, but its pretty consistent. I have tried everything listed on this forum..This drain is definitely not caused by any standard settings. I am really hoping somebody with insight into Oreo might have something new I could try. I know xda user Digisteve is going to showup and suggest more things, and that is also not going to work.
Things I've tried.
- using root to disable logd. (saw this as a process in BBS) Still drained.
- Disabling auto-sync of all accounts. Still drained.
- Turning on stamina mode at night. Still drained.
- Removed google play store, google play services framework, and all google aps - and replaced with alternative China app store. - Still drained. Not a play services problem.
- Turning off wifi, all wifi scanning, notifications of wifi networks etc. Still drained.
- Turning off mobile data and wifi - no connectivity at all. Still drained.
- Turned of location in all possible device settings,. Still drained.
- Rooted the device with Janjan method/kernal. Still drained.
- Flashed different regions. Including (Taiwan, my region, Malaysia, Germany, Swiss, HK). Still drained.
- Tried firmware verions , 179 , 205, 235, 270
- Deleting 3rd party apps. Still drained.
- Installing Gsam - checking for consuming apps. No apps listed as cause of the drain.
- Installed greenify. Tried as standard, non-rooted with adb permissions, and fully rooted. Still drained.
- Disabling various packages related to 'carrier services', qualcomm and rcs. Still drained.
- Debloated to the point that the phone had no google apps, no Xperia apps and removed tons of other apps, camera bloat, anon data, etc, all removed. Still drained.
- All built in apps replaced with a 3rd party app, including, sms, contacts, email, keyboard. Still drained.
- Installed Linage OS 15.1 Beta 5. Still drained.
- switched from 3G only to LTE only. both drained equally.. though I have worse single with LTE in my area.
I am hoping there is a better solution than throwing the phone away. Because I am pretty much at that point now. I have spent probably well over 120 hours trying to fix this, and I can't. Its at the point where I need to move on to a new device rather than waste more time.... but there are no small devices on the market now, and also no more classic xperia style devices on the market. Sony does not make the executive, classic 'Xperia' style I fell in love with anymore. I don't do round, heavy, huge phones. Very sad.
UPDATE - AUGUST 14
Now running the latest Customized German 270 firmware.
Still draining 20% per night. Check out the screen shots - clear to see I have almost no apps. No process can be seen as a battery hog in both Gsam and BBS. However Gsam screenshot shows evidence of CPU usage.
UPDATE - SEPTEMBER 13 - FOUND THE PROBLEM
Considering almost nobody had my issue, I assumed my phone must be a dud. Late August I bought a second XZ1 compact. The new phone worked for 1 day, and on the second day drained battery at 15% per night idle drain. Previously I had only tested the sim card by switching 3g,4g and disable mobile data, but never actually removing the sim from the phone. Last 2 nights I replaced my old sim with my gf sim of a different carrier. In the morning I had 99% battery remaining. No Drain!
I then downloaded an app these measures signal strength, and turns out where I sleep at night, there is is less reception. Its not noticeable just looking at the standard signal strength on your home screen, you need to check the more detailed strength in decibel millimps /dbm. I can still get good signal in most areas of my house, but the phone is having to use more power to keep the signal good. I can now reproduce the battery drain on demand. If I sleep with the phone near my bed, I get drain. But if I keep the phone in the living room, no drain. I found that connecting to wifi not a factor, since even if you use wifi for data, the phone was still holding open a connection the the cell tower.
This problem took me months, countless hours, and the expense of buying a completely new phone!!! Now I have 2 XZ1 compacts....arg.... but so happy its solved.
The important point is that if testing sim, good signal, or disabling mobile data, changing 3g 4g isn't enough. Your phone is using more power to maintain good signal.
Thank you to everyone who spend time trying to help me, digestive, proflyer, etc. Thank you guys.
At this point, I think it's highly likely you got yourself a lemon. Since you've already rooted the phone, warranty service is out of the question.
It boils down to two options:
1. Pay for a board replacement.
2. Try your luck with a brand new XZ1C. Buy it online so that you'll get the 7 days return perk (some online stores offer 10 days), keep it wrapped in its original packaging, handle with extreme care, and use it normally for a few days before your return window runs out. If you no longer get drains, congrats, and welcome to the club. If not, accept your fate, return it for a full refund, and give up on the XZ1C - understand that you weren't meant for each other and move on.
I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ormal-battery-consumption-wifi-t3740495/page3
I know what you feel. I had this too, but mine went away and I only very rarely have this drain. But mine was always on Wifi. With Wifi off = no drain reported... never.
I investigated it for weeks without coming to a conclusion.
If you can, replace the phone with warranty. Worth a try. Right now in my opinion you have a hardware faulty device.
But i would say to wait for android 9. In my opinion it wont take ages to come. It will much likely come this year.
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Milly7 said:
I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ormal-battery-consumption-wifi-t3740495/page3
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He still has drain even with WIfi Off, so that not the problem.
The only other thing I could suggest is having the battery replaced at a local repair shop. If you got a lemon battery but an otherwise fine phone, that could help.
How about remove your SIM card with wifi on for over night? Do you still experience the drain?
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Dean F said:
UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
Dean F said:
UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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That doesnt make too much sense. Test it for at least one week before coming to conclusions.
Try this and let me know if it works
I had exactly the same issue
What i did (now magicaly works)
I did not have too many time so what I did was simple and I got a cheap replacement phone in the meantime
It seems to be beyond everything we tried
I conected the phone to the pc and did the fix with xperia companion, then I realized that everything was working as soon as I started to install the apps the problem came back, I installed a launcher (nova) and use it, drained the battery útil reach zero and fully charge it, then everything was working... Back to normal... I don't know how the issue was solved but hope it works for you
Sorry about my bad english xD
ergoen said:
This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
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Hi ergoen - thanks for the interest in my problem. Please see all the screenshots attatched, including BBS and Gsam.
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Please see all the screenshots attatched,
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The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
Elmcor said:
I installed a launcher (nova) and use it,
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I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
Didgesteve said:
The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
ergoen said:
I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
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Didgesteve said:
The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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I also had the drain that Dean has. But mine wasnt so agressive, I mean, some days it was there draining 30% battery over my sleep time (8hrs) and sometime it just behaved normally draining max 3% over sleep time. But still from time to time the drain come back wich is annoying as I cant let my phone with 30% battery left when im going to sleep, afraid the battery will be dead and the alarm wont wacke me up lol.
On my extensive tests, the drain only happened with wifi, but even deactivating all wifi related process (backups, syncs etc) the drain was sometimes there. Wifi wasnt the culprit with Dean, but on my tests: Wifi On = Sometimes big drain , Wifi Off = never drain.
I never managed to find the culprit of this damn drain and Im a software tester. Gsam did not show anything unusual at all. It was like Deans screenshot.
We discussed about this issue a lot here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/help/battery-life-bit-odd-t3688342/page8) but till this day we dont know whats triggering it.
Im curious how the phone will behave on this issue with android P.
@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
i dont see nothing odd there
Dean F said:
@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
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I'm sorry, but I don't think I have the knowledge to judge that. I would expect CPU usage to be low in deep sleep mode, but since the CPU is mostly sleeping, I guess any requested usage will queue up in a way that might look odd, so what you are seeing might be normal (but again, I don't actually know). I also believe that CPU power consumption is mostly related to the frequency state it is in, so deep sleep should mean low consumption (independent on cpu util %).
As I indicated in my previous post, I would sooner blame the radio chip or the battery than the CPU given your BBS screenshots.
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
profyler said:
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
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Bro, Samsung is even worse when it comes to battery drain. Check out linus tech tips vid from a few days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46s_iF_IV4&t=324s
My wifes side of the family all have Samsungs.... they are totally ****. The OS is bloated, ugly, laggy despite monster specs huge ram, snap 845, and battery nightmares on brand new phones exactly like in Linus's video. And there is a stupid "BIXBY BUTTON" on the phone which is a total nightmare. if your with Samsung, BIXBY will the with you, following you forever.
In other news, I replaced my Taiwan XZ1 compact with an Australian XZ1 Compact, and my drain is gone. I drained 2% last night.
There are so many build differences with the Taiwan and Australian build of the phone. Bigger microphone holes, slightly different proximity sensor design, and the plastic back is a rough matt black/gray in the AU versions, the TW version was a smoother shiny midnight black with a silver sparkle in the sun. The biggest difference was of course the battery drain.