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So I am betting we do not get froyo before the end of the year. What I mean is the official release will not be this year. My question is, why is it that most of the other phones that can handle froyo already have had it for months, but Samsung is so behind and can't get it out the door?
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Since nothing constructive can come out of this thread, I'll direct you toward a thread on another forum with the same topic being covered:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/229120-froyo-over-under.html
Hmm.. I'm going to still say before Christmas.
As it is now Samsung Epic has the official Froyo build from Samsung. So... one can only hope.
This thread is a waste:
1. Samsung still says by the End of Year we will have Froyo. They never said we would have it earlier - only the international i9000 was specified as November
2. Epic got a leaked release - it is not official Froyo. It may turn out to be, but there is not official annoucnement from Sprint or Samsung that Froyo has been released for the Epic.
People need to get facts straight. They may not be what anyone wants to hear, but they are the facts.
alphadog00 said:
This thread is a waste:
1. Samsung still says by the End of Year we will have Froyo. They never said we would have it earlier - only the international i9000 was specified as November
2. Epic got a leaked release - it is not official Froyo. It may turn out to be, but there is not official annoucnement from Sprint or Samsung that Froyo has been released for the Epic.
People need to get facts straight. They may not be what anyone wants to hear, but they are the facts.
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I thought the same Epic release was hosted on Google's servers so... doesn't that make it official?
lol.. what I get for reading Endgadget while on the pot
SkitchBeatz said:
I thought the same Epic release was hosted on Google's servers so... doesn't that make it official?
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Google hosts all kinds of stuff. It could be any one of the Beta builds pushed out to testers OTA.
If it were official, don't you think Samsung and Sprint would be shouting about it?
One web site had this post:
"I don't think this is the real deal.t The only phones that got the OTA were one with a hardware version endind with .4 ,these are test phones. Every production Epic is a .5 phone. You can check your version by looking at (about phone) in the settings menu."
Although it is 2.2.1 - most sites are saying now it is most likely a leaked Dev build.
My 2c is that ATT couldn't really care less if they push out 2.2..so I doubt the Captivate will ever have an official upgrade to froyo..just too expensive in terms of R&D..remember, we're dealing with Ma Bell here-just under a different dress
HTC recently released a ROM update on their site for the AT$T Tilt 2. Info about it was nowhere to be found on the AT$T site. This is a phone that is no longer in production and near the end of its life cycle, but AT$T thought enough of it to release not only an updated ROM with fixes, but with the nicer Sense 2.5 UI instead of the original TF3D 2.1. I think a Froyo update from AT$T for our phones will eventually come.
I'm still shooting for St. Patrick's Day, around the end of Q1.
Obviously, Google will roll out a big update this year (4.3 or 5, whichever you want to fantasize about)
Will the H1 devs be able to port these newer versions to the H1, like CM? Basically Im wondering if there will be issues in keeping this phone for two years being stuck on 4.1/4.2 JB because i know we will be able to flash CM, but to what extent per say? Like how restrictive is the phones hardware capability to upgrade to newer software when it comes out?
The HTC One is probably the best phone being produced today in terms of being able to upgrade its operating system and being friendly to developers.
Why would you say that? Sources please.
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CM is coming to the one, codework, koush and Steve Kondik himself has one. as for a HTC firmware update to 4.3 or 5, maybe 3-4 months after the google release
I've been reading alot about the Google Editions lately and where there updates come from, on this page it says that the updates are provided by Google:
http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/
But apparently the kernels are provided by HTC, what do you guys think and how long do you reckon HTC will take to come out with the updates if they do come from them due to there past history?
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I've been reading alot about the Google Editions lately and where there updates come from, on this page it says that the updates are provided by Google:
http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/
But apparently the kernels are provided by HTC, what do you guys think and how long do you reckon HTC will take to come out with the updates if they do come from them due to there past history?
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in retrospect, Google updates for Google Edition phones at provide by Google. But google is not responsible for distribution, HTC is.
HTC deal with the ROM as well as the GE HTC One uses an HTC kernel, not a Nexus kernel, so until the kernel is ready the ROM won't be released. We'll soon find out as there is a Google Announcement on the 24th so depending on how long after that it comes out will show how quickly HTC are making the kernel
Considering there's already been 4.3 leaks for the S4 GE, and 4.3 Spotted on the One GE - seems like the next update won't be a problem when it comes.
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Considering there's already been 4.3 leaks for the S4 GE, and 4.3 Spotted on the One GE - seems like the next update won't be a problem when it comes.
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Yeah hopefully Google announce Android 4.3 and a new Nexus 7 2 tablet (been waiting for it all year lol) next Tuesday finger crossed
I know there was a system dump of 4.3 on t Mobile, but it was said to still be in development. Some people were thinking the moto x would get faster updates being so close to stock android. However at this point we're getting close to when the heavily customized galaxy s4 is *supposed* to get its update.
Could the major camera firmware update have delayed them on 4.3? Or are we looking at another phone that will still be several months delayed getting android updates?
From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
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That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
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or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
Maybe the S4 having been released months in advance also has something to do with it....
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or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
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Very true. I would be ok with that if it meant an earlier update! I'm probably getting one soon with that best buy deal. Too good to pass up!
The biggest fix in 4.3 was the trim support (and SE Linux, but you won't notice that)... Moto X already has trim built in so there really isn't much rush on the 4.3 front.
I'd prefer a skip to 4.4 if that makes it a faster release.
I'm thinking of buying the X3c but have loved the vanilla version of the Nexus 4 and getting regular updates.
I'm very new to the whole unlocking community and wanted to know if its possible to install a vanilla version of Lollipop on it and install future update. If so, would this affect any functionality? I read that the camera in low light will be affected.
Thanks in advance!
The closest you'll get to AOSP on this phone -- and it's very close -- is through Cyanogenmod and derivative ROMs. I've read that losing Sony's DRM keys results in a few changes (see thread). The big question is will you lose and miss those features. Secondly, will Cyanogenmod ever release a stable version for this model. Currently,
I love AOSP for its speed, efficiency, and UI but I'm bummed to lose stability and camera quality. That's the tradeoff will almost all the Android phones right now though. Those Nexus phones have a great update policy.
Keep an eye on the development section to see when Android 5.0 ROMs are available and read the threads to see how well they're working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/development.
Thanks jayarmstrong will keep a lookout for those ROMs. Appreciate it