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[Q] Will I be able to back up saved games before flashing a ROM or wiping my device?

Subject says it all. I'm looking at flashing Cognition but I'm hesitant if I will lose all saved games. I have titanium backup but have only used it to removed at&t bloatware. Can I use that to backup saves? And if so.. how?
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I use titanium backup and it has always restored my Angry Birds' saved games... I was three star-ing everything so I wasn't about to flash and lose it all either HAHA. I say use TiBu and you should be fine, though there are anomalies and I am not responsible for any lost saved games haha

Is there a "how-to" for titanium backup?
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TiBu -> Menu -> Batch -> Backup all user apps
Flash ODIN
Flash new rom (you can click wipe data, it doesnt delete your sd card stuff, in fact, i recommend it)
Install TiBu (if your rom doesn't have it included)
TiBu -> Menu -> Batch -> Restore all apps with data
Click install, install, install. Done.
If you're really anal (which i was for a while), put in an external sd card and copy the titaniumbackup folder from your root folder to the external sd card and then take it out. lol

Ah sweet. So if I'm understanding those steps... the internal sd card is not treated like internal ROM storage that is wiped when you flash your phone?
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No, but if you did, for instance, an Odin 3 one click back to stock, and clicked the master clear button, or if you do a factory reset, etc., that would wipe the internal SD card. So, if your ocd like me, connect to your pc and mount the SD card, and transfer everything on it to the PC hard disk. Then repeat that whenever you're going to flash. Just in case, you know.

Backup all user apps or backup all user apps + system data?
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Do all backup stuff. You can later select what to restore. You can go in and just restore browser favorites if you want.
Demonic240 said:
Backup all user apps or backup all user apps + system data?
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Thank you all for the info! There's a reason these forums rock!
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How do I flash ROM and Kernel flashed on a fresh partition?

I'm using Slim ICS 3.2 but I want a clean install, I've gone through so many Roms so I don't want any other file conflicts.

DamianGTO written a guide for a superclean installation
http://damiangto.emc2production.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213
but you have to register in order to see it, and I respect his copyrights.

Alternatively transfer essentials to computer from your internal sd card>>>factory reset and wipe internal sd card>>>Attach to computer and only transfer back your nandroid backup (you still need this incase something goes wrong) and the rom zip...
Go to recovery wipe data/factory reset>>>wipe cache>>>wipe dalvik>>>mounts and storage>>>format system+cache+datadata+data (I dont wipe boot and you need sdcard)>>>Flash rom
That should give you a very clean install
Cleaner if you clear up your exsd if you have one

Talon26 said:
Alternatively transfer essentials to computer from your internal sd card>>>factory reset and wipe internal sd card>>>Attach to computer and only transfer back your nandroid backup (you still need this incase something goes wrong) and the rom zip...
Go to recovery wipe data/factory reset>>>wipe cache>>>wipe dalvik>>>mounts and storage>>>format system+cache+datadata+data (I dont wipe boot and you need sdcard)>>>Flash rom
That should give you a very clean install
Cleaner if you clear up your exsd if you have one
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if I wipe everything will I still have CWM? to install the ROM?
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Yep because I've done it before...
Just to make sure DO NOT wipe boot or sdcard

do you know how to do s fresh slim ics install?
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First dl. Your rom to sd (don't move it from your download section, this is your internal SD)
Just follow the steps, 3 posts up,but as he said DO NOT WIPE SD-CARD, doesn't matter if u wipe boot nothing bad will happen.remember to also wipe dalvik cache.
After wipe, install your rom and essentials(needed on slim rom) then let it boot.if u restore apps with titanium b. Then only restore app, not app+data otherwise u might have some apps fc
Hope it helped
Ps.
Damiangto is banned from a lot of sites because he violates open source rules and won't give up his source codes
Even though he uses other people codes (kernel codes)

zodiaxe66 said:
First dl. Your rom to sd (don't move it from your download section, this is your internal SD)
Just follow the steps, 3 posts up,but as he said DO NOT WIPE SD-CARD, doesn't matter if u wipe boot nothing bad will happen.remember to also wipe dalvik cache.
After wipe, install your rom and essentials(needed on slim rom) then let it boot.if u restore apps with titanium b. Then only restore app, not app+data otherwise u might have some apps fc
Hope it helped
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Damiangto is banned from a lot of sites because he violates open source rules and won't give up his source codes
Even though he uses other people codes (kernel codes)
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whoops, I wiped SD card. Seems to be running ok, what have I done?
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You have deleted all your pictures music etc on your SD card. Including the rom that you were meant to or have already flashed. Also you may have deleted your backups and possibly your nandroid.
If you haven't flashed flashed yet ensure you make a nandroid backup and transfer the rom you wish to flash onto your sd card.
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Talon26 said:
You have deleted all your pictures music etc on your SD card. Including the rom that you were meant to or have already flashed. Also you may have deleted your backups and possibly your nandroid.
If you haven't flashed flashed yet ensure you make a nandroid backup and transfer the rom you wish to flash onto your sd card.
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I backed everything up, I mounted USB storage using cwm, everything seems to work flawlessly, except google maps navigation won't start.
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SD Card Is Dead

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I backed everything up, I mounted USB storage using cwm, everything seems to work flawlessly, except google maps navigation won't start.
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Ok thats good then. Maybe clear data from Maps. If that doesn't work then uninstall and reinstall the app. Have you tried them two?
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SD Card Is Dead
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I don't understand are you sharing your problem just to share or do you have a problem that wants/needs resolving?
If you want something resolved then please tell us what you were doing, what you have/had on the phone before this problem and what you have tried so far?
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Yeah I'm a little confused myself
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Enormous NAND backup sizes

So since sdcard is now part of /data, when I make a NAND backup the size is almost 4GB, since I have a bunch of music stored locally from Google Music. Is there anyway to get TWRP to ignore the sdcard directory when backing up (since it doesn't get wiped anyway) so that each backup I make isn't ginormous? I'm already down to only 15GB left on this phone. I know I could have it just not backup the data partition, but then restoring from a backup would only restore the OS and not the apps and configuration I previously had (which is kinda the whole point of a backup, since otherwise I could just fresh install a new ROM).

cant you just copy them over to your computer? and keep one on the phone for safety?

Just created a nandroid backup with CWM touch, mine came out as 2.1GB, not sure why your backup is so large
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Mine are usually around 1.5GB. But I don't keep music and videos on mine.
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Since the /sdcard data is sharing with the same partition as the /data doing a nandroid backup would depend on how much space is consumed by your sdcard.

So I guess nothing I can do, then? Thanks anyway.

Does this mean a Nandroid backup of the One would backup photos and media too?

dnydny said:
Does this mean a Nandroid backup of the One would backup photos and media too?
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Yes!

Problem is that Google Music cache is in /data/data folder, so Twrp backs it up. Solution is to create a folder on /sdcard and symlink the Google Music cache folder to it. Twrp won't back it up because it doesn't follow symlinks nor does it backup /sdcard. There are several posts on the subject, just search.

Riyal said:
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I don't believe it does, I don't think Nandroid would perform backup functions differently on different devices but coming from the SGN I - I can tell you that all Nandroid backups are basically settings and OS files as well as Apps / App Data. For the most part, when you do a Wipe / Format on your phone, it is only removing the OS files and installed Apps. It does not backup your photos / videos as it never really removes that data to begin with and so you should see your stuff there even after installing a fresh copy of the ROM. If you go into advanced functions in CWM and format your card, then you will wipe the entire device off.
IIRC CWM started taking nandroid backups very differently from a few versions ago, there's now a "blobs" folder in the backup folder and that is the one that grows exponentially in size. I believe that was done to only make incremental backups easy but the downsize is grows massive.
I cannot give you a guaranteed answer if deleting the blobs folder is safe or not but I have deleted it in the past and eventually resorted to just keeping the most recent backup by deleting all backups / blobs and then doing a fresh backup.

click compression and mines 1 gig

A nandroid backup also backs up the data directories and your downloaded Goggle Music songs are in that data directory. Therefore whenever your do a nandroid backup, the songs will be backed up as well, increasing your final size...
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encrypshun said:
I don't believe it does, I don't think Nandroid would perform backup functions differently on different devices
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The recovery may very well perform nandroids differently on "data/media" services such as the htc one. Check out http://teamw.in/DataMedia
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I'll try the symlink trick, thanks.
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is there an app that lets you browse nandroid contents so you can confirm what has been backed up?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044414

Ok just to answer my own question.
I just took a nandroid backup of One of my phones and restored it to my other one.
Music and Gallary did not come across.
If anyone else wants me to verify anything I'm more than happy to as I have both phones in front of me and all my settings and profiles are there, just no media.

[Q] How much used Storage in 'other' on HTC one

Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...

showingcatches said:
Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...
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This is my situation now.. I have the 32gb model and im using AndroidRev 20.2. i JUST flashed from 20.1 yesterday and did a wipe of dalvik, and a regular wipe, i didnt do the extra steps you did but now i have 15gb in other being used. it SHOULD be around 6 or less because i have a couple apks and Roms(PSP,NDS,PS1) not "ROMS" being held in my phone. I was going to back up all system data and user apps with titanium back up data but now its saying "insuffiecient free storage". I have 11 gb of storage left. Should I just copy all files to my computer from the SD? I also would like to know how to wipe away as much data and storage as possible without removing ADR 20.2

showingcatches said:
Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...
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7GB of reserved space sounds about right. I also have only 25.49GB of free storage after a full format.
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Spidakid said:
This is my situation now.. I have the 32gb model and im using AndroidRev 20.2. i JUST flashed from 20.1 yesterday and did a wipe of dalvik, and a regular wipe, i didnt do the extra steps you did but now i have 15gb in other being used. it SHOULD be around 6 or less because i have a couple apks and Roms(PSP,NDS,PS1) not "ROMS" being held in my phone. I was going to back up all system data and user apps with titanium back up data but now its saying "insuffiecient free storage". I have 11 gb of storage left. Should I just copy all files to my computer from the SD? I also would like to know how to wipe away as much data and storage as possible without removing ADR 20.2
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Change the TiBu backup folder in preferences
MENU -> Preferences -> Backup folder location -> Detect! -> Whole Device
It should find one in "/storage/emulated/legacy/<backup folder>", select that one. That should fix the insufficient space bug.

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nkk71 said:
7GB of reserved space sounds about right. I also have only 25.49GB of free storage after a full format.
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Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?

showingcatches said:
Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?
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Don't forget your phone does need an operating system to work.

showingcatches said:
Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?
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Not really. I also find it a bit on the high side, but I guess the OS needs it

deeevan said:
Don't forget your phone does need an operating system to work.
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Yep. Only ARHD is 1gb as a zip. I'm just confused as to why it unpacks to so big.
nkk71 said:
Not really. I also find it a bit on the high side, but I guess the OS needs it
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Ok, thanks anyway.

i tried to do the "scan whole device" thing with Titanium Backup and it still didnt work. I might have to completely wipe the whole phone :crying:.
Would i have to re-unlock the boot loader and re-root?

Spidakid said:
i tried to do the "scan whole device" thing with Titanium Backup and it still didnt work. I might have to completely wipe the whole phone :crying:.
Would i have to re-unlock the boot loader and re-root?
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What was the result of "detect", didn't it give you two locations for the backups
In either case, you won't need to re-unlock or re-root, worst case you format your sd-card (ie internal storage) using recovery. Don't forget to backup your pictures, music, etc to your PC first.
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Nah man all I get is "there's no backup location" but yeah I'll just super wipe everything. After I back up my music etc.
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[Q] Question about also wiping internal before flashing a rom

Hello,
I did a bit of searching and could not find an answer if it is safe to also include wiping internal when doing the advanced wipe before I flash a ROM (in my case a TW Rom to the same but updated version of a TW Rom). Since ROMs i've had interest in instructs only to wipe Data Cache Dalvik System x 3. Just wanted to make sure and perhaps find an answer as to why you would not want to do this. I apologize if there is a thread or answer for this already. Thank your time and expertise.

Guntox said:
Hello,
I did a bit of searching and could not find an answer if it is safe to also include wiping internal when doing the advanced wipe before I flash a ROM (in my case a TW Rom to the same but updated version of a TW Rom). Since ROMs i've had interest in instructs only to wipe Data Cache Dalvik System x 3. Just wanted to make sure and perhaps find an answer as to why you would not want to do this. I apologize if there is a thread or answer for this already. Thank your time and expertise.
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Wipes the entire internal memory. Anything stored there, photos, video, music, whatever gets deleted.
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nosympathy said:
Wipes the entire internal memory. Anything stored there, photos, video, music, whatever gets deleted.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So no error will come about regarding fingerprint etc once rom is installed?

Guntox said:
Thanks for the quick reply. So no error will come about regarding fingerprint etc once rom is installed?
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That stuff is stored under the phone data I would assume. This is the internal "SD card" you can store personal stuff and 3rd party apps on.
Should be no harm in wiping it other than it is 100% not needed and just erases your non phone data for no reason.
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Caution. Many people are reporting problems writing downloaded files after wiping internal. That requires the extra step of fixing permissions in TWRP. Wiping internal memory is typically unneeded.