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I bought my gf a Sprint Hero to see if she likes using Android. Might buy an Evo or whatever comes next if she likes the platform (this is her first smartphone, I've been using them for a loooong time - since the iPaq days!)
Anyway, the used one I bought her has stock 1.5 ROM on it, and I know that the Sprint 2.1 ROM is also available. I've searched all over and see mixed opinions on if its worth upgrading or not. A lot of bugs seem to crop up in the 2.1 version, but also some new features and better app compatibility in the market.
I'm a long-time HTC device user, but always WinMo, so I'm no stranger to flashing/modding etc. But I don't want to get into that at all with her phone, she'll get angry if I try to do something and then something else breaks, so I just want whatever stock ROM "just works" best. I don't want to have to "maintain" this device.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.
Hi there. As far as what "just works"...I have used both 1.5 and 2.1 stock...some people have experienced multiple problems. I used 2.1 stock for awhile before rooting...and quite honestly, the only problems I had was occasional lag...not drastic like some have reported....and rapid battery drain. I've since rooted 2.1 and use an overclocked kernel. Now, with GPS location off (still use cell service loc.), and no task killer whatsoever...i get almost 24 hours of battery with moderate to high usage. I experience no lag whatsoever. And, quite honestly, the rooting process and installing the OC'd kernel are VERY easy. I don't know about your girlfriend, but the skeptics I know...given a few days running straight stock unrooted...came back in a couple days begging me to root and make their Hero "run like mine".
Thanks for the info. I might go that route. Are you running a ROM with Sense? Did you just root the stock Sprint Sense ROM and OC it?
Any more help would be appreciated, like I said I've done a lot of ROM flashing and modding in the past but always on WinMo, I'm new to Android but have been reading up on these forums so I think I have a good sense of what needs to be done now. I'm not afraid of rooting / flashing processes, but I really don't want to put on ROMs where little weird glitches are going to piss her off. I don't mind dealing with that on my own phone, but this really does need to be a one-time job where I can just had it off to her and never have to deal with it again
I am running a ROM with Sense. It's the actually the HTC ROM that has been rooted. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 It runs sweet. I also formatted the stock 2gb SD card to ext for use with Apps2SD and it worked flawlessly after flashing the ROM. There are plenty of straightforward instructions here in this forum. Like I said, I think your g/f will be very pleased with the speed and battery life using this message. I flash a couple roms now and then to try something new, but always come back to this 'cuz it "just works".
1.5 is faster & more stable imo...but outdated. 2.1 provides a few new features but it's really up to her which one she wants to use. try them both out.
for 2.1 id use the stock rooted sprint rom
for 1.5 id suggest the pancake rom.
If you flash one of the OC kernels, just know that not all phones can handle the OC speeds, especially on bootup. If you decide to flash an OC kernel, MAKE SURE you nandroid backup first in case that phone goes into bootloops or freezes after the new kernel. Start with the 691mhz one just to test, then if all is good you can move up to 710mhz or 768mhz if you want more.
Also, to answer your initial question, I personally think stock 2.1 is much better overall than 1.5. Without even considering OC kernels, extra apps, widgets, etc....Android 1.5 didn't even have native CDMA support, so it had to contain a lot more code/tweaking for our Sprint build, which is why it runs so slowly and laggy. 2.1 includes CDMA support which automatically makes the code smaller and it means the OS automatically runs more quickly and smoothly on almost all HTC Heroes.
The only big consistent issue I've heard of on stock 2.1 is terrible Bluetooth functionality. Most other issues are hit or miss cases that aren't very common.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, this has all been helpful.
To update, I dove in and just updated to the latest 2.1 Sprint official ROM (.6). I don't really think she has a current need to be rooted, as she doesn't use many apps, and doesn't need tethering.
If the need arises in the future for these things, I'll just flash the ROM linked above, or flash back to .5, root, and re-flash. Maybe by then there will be a root for .6 anyway and it will be even easier yet.
I'd also like to post my experience with 1.5 vs 2.1 I am not sure why everyone feels 2.1 is so much slower. I'm guessing it's because they haven't applied the .6 patch, which in addition to fixing the root exploit, also adds a bunch of speed enhancements in the UI.
2.1 is much faster on her phone than 1.5, especially scrolling in long lists, using the dialer, and even swiping between homescreens. She's quite happy with it, and I don't have to hack any fixes due to broken stuff in ROMs, so I'm happy too
I'm liking Android enough that I think I'm willing to buy another phone to play with, I got sick of dealing with flashing and hacking on my WinMo devices, so I went to iPhone. But I want a new Android HTC phone to play with, I think I'll buy a Nexus One or something.
I am a n00b humbly trying my best to read as much as I can to be able to flash my first ROM. There are some great stickies which tell me how to flash and allow me to skip the impossible task of reading the thousands of pages on the subject. So far I've rooted and installed ROM Manager and CWM Recovery, and thanks to some consolidated stickies posted by this great community, anticipate being able to flash my first ROM.
It seems impossible, however, to read enough about the different ROMs to make an intelligent choice of which one to flash. Nor can I find a sticky on the subject. I am not looking for others to put any other ROMs down, I just want to hear if anyone can give a positive recommendation for a ROM that you think is best for what I need (in order of importance):
Extremely stable on AT&T i897 (I am running stock JH7 right now). For example, I remember reading for Phoenix that there's a complicated process required to get the 850 MHz radio to work. That is not cool for my needs. I need both of AT&T's 850 and 1900 bands to work stably and without additional hacking.
Very large user base and very active maintenance of the ROM so that I know that the major bugs have been worked out (probably the same as criterion 1 above)
Great battery life (need not be the absolute best)
Better GPS than stock (I understand that doesn't take much)
Faster performance than stock (does not have to be very/blazing fast, and this is less important to me than battery life)
Good wireless tethering (I hear the "Wireless Tether" app is less than ideal because it is not visible to most phones)
Preferably would like to be able to upgrade to a newer version of the same ROM (if I choose the right actively-maintained ROM in the first place, I won't be looking to switch ROMs in the future anyway) in place, without having to use ODIN or reinstall any applications or reconfigure any settings (like my Dolphin bookmarks) every time I upgrade. I'm not sure if this is never possible, or perhaps is always possible with Titanium Backup.
I could not care less about themes, wallpapers, boot animations or anything related to look and feel. I'm by far a function over form kind of guy. Unless of course the theme, such as a dark theme, contributes significantly to battery life savings.
Thank you so much in advance for any recommendations you can provide!
Jason
try the rom in my signature.... Version 1.0
you wont be disappointed
well, let me start of by saying, congratulations on posting in the correct area! you can catch quite a bit of $h.t for post in the wrong area! as far as the best ROM and well maintained, me, personally, I'm running Firefly 1.5 battery life is amazing. it comes with Mobile AP for tethering (which is extremely reliable) gps is awesome! HUGE user base, and the DEV's are understanding and will answer any questions you have! number 1 rule of flasing custom roms... BACK UP ALL INFO, I usually copy all files from internal SD and external SD to my desktop! as far as reinstalling your apps, TiBu is an awesome app, it saves a copy of the APK and the data you have with it, but it is time consuming to do a batch restore, but WELL worth it!
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try the rom in my signature.... Version 1.0
you wont be disappointed
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Yeah...I agree try Andromeda 1.0. If you are not a theme guy, then basically all the other ROMs are based on the exact same base with the exact same MODs. The only thing that really differs is a few tweaks here and there and the theme. Andromeda is build on the Armani Captivate build, and many people are finding it more stable. There is a 1.0 unthemed and a 2.0 themed. In addition, you can try out Cognition or Serendipity. Both are very stable
I'd look at DesignGears Cognition ROM. It's based off of SGH-i896 2.2 release in canada.
When I used it, I never had any problems with it, there are tons of additional features than stock, battery life is amazing, and it's just a much better ROM than the traditional i897 stock ROM.
Get the one in my sign.
LOL, see everyone has their own preference! TRY THEM ALL! become a flash addict like the rest of us!!
Your requirements look a lot like mine. I'm sure there are many great ROMs - depending on what someone is looking for. I'm using DG's Cognition and have been very pleased! I find it to be tremendously stable, though obviously much better (and faster) than stock. Battery life is awesome. I generally end the day with 40-50% left after what I'd consider to be moderate use.
Everyone will have their own opinion on the roms they use. Also remember that the same rom with the same set up will not always run the same. Each device is different so. Sense you require such tight guidelines I would stay stock, and read each thread till you find one that you think is stable enough for your uses. There is never a promise that after flashing a rom that an issue will not pop up that only effects you and your device (seen that happen lol) Also if there is a major update to the rom you chose you may have to do a back up and restore of the apps you installed and set things up again as sometimes you just have to revert to stock (yes I know some say they never have, but then I have never had an issue other then the ones I have caused my self). Your best bet is sense you have such tight restrictions on what the rom needs to ba able to do is learn to make one your self so you will know it meets your rules.
We dont do best rom threads.
I would just like some feedback on the smoothest most efficent (and best looking) rom for thr rhodium. I dont feel like flashing a million roms and i dont exactly understand about the radio.. does it have to be changed?
Welcome to the forum!
I am somewhat of a newbie, using the Energy cooked ROM on my phone for about 3 weeks ago now. I have found it to be flawless. I read the directions a couple times, CAREFULLY, and did exactly what it said. These are the directions at the beginning of the thread. I started with the 21916 build because it said it was the most flawless stable build, but a week later I reflashed with the (at the time) 28xxx build and now I am on to 29xxx. I have found all of them to work great, no complaints at all.
Using the energy rom, my Tilt 2 is like a new phone. I have conservatively overclocked it, and my signals are better, it's a zippier phone, it looks awesome with eye candy, I just couldn't be happier. I used to have virtually no signal in my basement where I work, now I have 4 bars. I feel like that's because of bloat and stuff being gone, but I really don't know.
Also, I read the forums carefully now too, and I would say 95% of all problems are because people don't follow the instructions. I had trouble with my GPS, but that was confirmed to be a hardware problem. Got a new phone and it runs great, I get a lock in about 5-6 seconds, INDOORS! You can't beat that.
I am trying to learn more how to automate the re-flash process, but right now I just keep a text file of my steps and it takes me about an hour to Task29, flash, do my customizations and it's ready to go.
You don't need to flash a new radio. I did go to the newest one though, I think it's a little better in m y area. As you will see in the FAQ it's very easy to flash a new radio, it doesn't harm/erase any other stuff so in an hour you can try 4 or 5 if you really wanted to.
As you can tell, I have been extremely happy with the Energy ROM. If you try it and like it, just thank the chef and give him a small donation. If we all do it he will feel the love from helping us all with our phones.
Good luck - and read the FAQs carefully! They are very well written.
yea ive been reading on it for about a week now. i just flashed the hardspl about an hour ago. so i was trying to decide on which rom to go with i mean like energy rom ok but any particular version.. several different roms use the energy or sense base....
I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
teknowledgist said:
I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
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......so get an iPhone then........
Currently Fusionized
I bought my wife a 4gs on launch day, and its smooth but not without a few faults. The amount of repeat info here can turn into a maze of discouragement, but I think just a little more effort might yield the results you want. I'm currently running mosaic 8 with the latest semiphore kernel and its very stable to say the least.
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KK4 seems to be the final update and source code is out so things are about to get real good. There are 5-6 real nice stable roms out right now. Take the time to find one you like and stick with it.
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Wdustin1 said:
......so get an iPhone then........
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So, your view is that the Captivate and/or Android phones are best used by people who have both the skills and time to regularly - if not constantly - rebuild and tweak hidden and background settings always at some risk of bricking their several-hundred dollar device, and you see the iPhone as the proper choice for people who simply want something that works for their day-to-day use?
That's worse than what everyday users had to manage with DOS or in the early days of Linux or Windows 95. At least with those, your hardware wasn't (usually) at risk.
Is there no solution for those in the middle who want something that works day-to-day and allows them some freedom to make minor changes like block ads and install "unapproved" apps? Are they simply out of luck?
teknowledgist said:
I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
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Cm7. Wipe data factory reset again after flashing, let it sit for 10 mins after first boot but before you sign in.
My vibrant was perfectly stable that way.
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MIUI, great fast ROM. All you have to do is flash the small update every week and everything stays the same. You don't loose data!
If you don't feel like doing the update every single week just skip a few here and there. Or got the latest Gingerbread leak(KK4) and use it. It is stable, has great battery life, and pretty fast, but still can't compare to MIUI/CM7 speeds!
I'm not sure what you mean by stock AT&T ROM being no good. I've used a Captivate that had the official AT&T stock 2.2 on it, and it was pretty darn good. I then loaded the "stock" AT&T gingerbread leak on it, and it was even better. Almost no lag at all, GPS worked great, and battery life was excellent. I think you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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I'm not sure what you mean by stock AT&T ROM being no good. I've used a Captivate that had the official AT&T stock 2.2 on it, and it was pretty darn good. I then loaded the "stock" AT&T gingerbread leak on it, and it was even better. Almost no lag at all, GPS worked great, and battery life was excellent. I think you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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I tried to use the stock 2.2. I really did. I was getting random shutdowns and reboots all the time and the lag, oh the lag! I can't tell you how many times I would hit an on-screen button and nothing would happen. I would hit it again a second or three later or try a different on screen-button, and still nothing. Thinking the app had crashed, I would hit home or back. Another second or two after that, everything I had done would process in a millisecond and I would be back at the home screen with no idea what I had done as the "extra" touches would register as some other command on the screens that followed and I didn't see.
Once I reflashed the first time, the lag went away and the shutdowns greatly diminished, but since then I have had various other problems. Things like:
- the phone telling me I had a cell signal when I didn't and because I don't make many outgoing calls or texts I just thought nobody wanted to talk to me. Meanwhile people were getting mad that I wasn't getting back to them.
- Apps "uninstalling" by themselves sometimes with a generic icon to replace them. Re-installing them sometimes worked and sometimes didn't (with the same app).
- Texts that come in 5 hours after they were sent and 2 hours after I emerged into a strong cell signal (I work in a sub-basement).
When I tried the KK4 stock, everything did seem to work well until I actually tried to use it as a phone. It said I had signal and I had data connection, but most calls would simply never dial, and while it would ring and I could see who was calling, I couldn't answer. This seems particularly bizarre to me as you would think the ROM/modem pair should work with all Captivates.
If you want stability, I'd recommend Firefly or Andromeda. They are both older and are Froyo builds, but ultra stable.
And I concur the out of the box Cappy 2.1 build was unusable...it's how I ended up here at xda! Unlike you however, I found that I do like tweaking my phone, and I've done some amount of that...not without peaks and valleys, but I currently really enjoy the Mosaic ROM with Semaphore JVZ kernel.
i897 running Mosaic 8.5
teknowledgist said:
So, your view is that the Captivate and/or Android phones are best used by people who have both the skills and time to regularly - if not constantly - rebuild and tweak hidden and background settings always at some risk of bricking their several-hundred dollar device, and you see the iPhone as the proper choice for people who simply want something that works for their day-to-day use?
That's worse than what everyday users had to manage with DOS or in the early days of Linux or Windows 95. At least with those, your hardware wasn't (usually) at risk.
Is there no solution for those in the middle who want something that works day-to-day and allows them some freedom to make minor changes like block ads and install "unapproved" apps? Are they simply out of luck?
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Unfortunately, it's shaping out that way. And it's only getting worse as time goes on and the fragments march in their separate directions. When there's 20 different fundamental ROMS (Sense, TouvhWiz, all the variations and so on), and 4000 different phones it becomes increasingly difficult to provide a consistent quality experience.
The worst part being I don't see a way out for Google or a light at the end of the tunnel for consumers short of starting over, which presents more problems than it solves.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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If you want stability, I'd recommend Firefly or Andromeda. They are both older and are Froyo builds, but ultra stable.
And I concur the out of the box Cappy 2.1 build was unusable...it's how I ended up here at xda! Unlike you however, I found that I do like tweaking my phone, and I've done some amount of that...not without peaks and valleys, but I currently really enjoy the Mosaic ROM with Semaphore JVZ kernel.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Actually, I think tweaking can be fun sometimes, but between work, family, house, etc. I'm usually stumbling through on 5 hours of sleep a night as it is (good thing I don't drive to work!). I simply don't have time to tweak, and I definitely can't be without a phone for a day or two.
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Unfortunately, it's shaping out that way. And it's only getting worse as time goes on and the fragments march in their separate directions. When there's 20 different fundamental ROMS (Sense, TouvhWiz, all the variations and so on), and 4000 different phones it becomes increasingly difficult to provide a consistent quality experience.
The worst part being I don't see a way out for Google or a light at the end of the tunnel for consumers short of starting over, which presents more problems than it solves.
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That's the sense I was getting, but when I would express it to anyone I know in meat-space, they just rolled their eyes and called me crazy. I started this thread with the optimistic hope that I was simply missing something.
It's good to know at least that I'm not alone in my thinking.
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KK4 seems to be the final update and source code is out so things are about to get real good.
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This is my hope.
I have had Cognition 5 on my phone since it was released. It has been the ultimate experience for me. Stable, GREAT battery life, awesome response, etc. It is the Plain Jane of ROMs and I won't use anything else.
at least not until a stable, working version of ICS is out. I've recently got my hands on a free captivate and have been using it as a testbed for ICS. Once I am satisfied, I will flash my everyday use Cappy to ICS and be done with flashing on this phone until I can upgrade this summer.
Im in your boat somewhat. I want all features of the device to work and I dont want reboots etc. Stability is critical.
For Froyo, Firefy 3.0 ROM gave up uptimes of 7-8 days without issue. I only rebooted once battery ran out.
GB ROMs Ive tried are all more unstable, but I have been on Illuminance 3.01 for over a week now and its running quite good. I reboot often though as I swap batteries, so I cant speak to up time but it goes over a day easily. Im using the ICS theme with it so it feels like I have a new device also.
Now that we have KK4 source I think we will see stability improve even more.
I see too many problems with the ICS builds so far but they are alpha afterall. Impressive progress from the devs working on it however!
Eventually my idea is to take the best of all the leaks and make a rock solid stable hybrid rom. Though most devs, including myself, try to cater to the masses. It seems what you are looking for isn't very popular. Most want more and better in their roms, i've tried both and still not overly successful at either. But it doesn't stop me from trying to create the best of both worlds. A solid stable rom with nice features, that doesn't deteriorate in performance over time. Hopefully a hybrid rom will solve a lot of issues we all face with the cappy.
The thing the iphone has going for it is the fact it is one manufacturer, apple. All the iphones are the same, same processor, same hardware, same specs, same, same, same. It makes it easy to have a tight knit development for the phone, so it is less prone to issues. But because of this tight, closed architecture, you don't have allot of choices as far as styles and hardware. Android and Windows, on the other hand, have multiple manufacturers and many choices of processors, hardware and styles to choose from. So it is much more difficult for Google and phone manufacturing developers to cater to all of the different phones and have each one run flawlessly. The same holds true for Linux and Windows with PC's. But I think the cappy has some of the best developers on XDA making great ROMs for it and these ROMs don't necessarily cater to hobbyists, they cater to captivate users in general.
Sometimes good things come to those who wait...
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In my own opinion, I think one of the best ROM's out there, and quite frankly possibly the most stable I've run to date is Phoenix Unleashed. It's Froyo JS8, and was the last of the 2.2 ROM's Adam put out. It was a ROM I would absolutely go to IF I ever got tired of flashing ROM's(don't really see that happening) and wanted to just have a phone that worked and worked well.
I'm too busy now playing with ICS.......but that is a story for another day
kangi26 said:
In my own opinion, I think one of the best ROM's out there, and quite frankly possibly the most stable I've run to date is Phoenix Unleashed. It's Froyo JS8, and was the last of the 2.2 ROM's Adam put out. It was a ROM I would absolutely go to IF I ever got tired of flashing ROM's(don't really see that happening) and wanted to just have a phone that worked and worked well.
I'm too busy now playing with ICS.......but that is a story for another day
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I think there's something to that. Serendipity 6 was JS8 if I remember correctly.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I think there's something to that. Serendipity 6 was JS8 if I remember correctly.
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By the way, no offence Mikey, I'm not in any way trying to imply that your ROM's are inferior, I just spent a TON of time with the Phoenix ROM's so my opinion comes from that alone
Hello,
I´m new to Dream and flashing etc... (I had Blackstone with android and Nexus S without flashing any custom ROM).
My new Dream will be with me in a few days (weeks? ). Well, I have quite high expectations and I know, stock ROM is not going to meet them. I need:
- battery life - not necesarily best, but I need at least 1 day with wi-fi on
- I need fast ROM - I expect to use some navigation software and I would like to play games like angry birds or Where is my water.
- I need wi-fi tethering, very crucial
- I would like to have live wallpapers
- I want stable ROM with market (Google play) and with no big issues
Well, which ROM is best? Everything except for functions above is not important for me so what is the best ROM for me? I really am not a fan of many hours of flashing, trying and bricking my phone. Every advice is good to me.
Also, I´m completely lost about many things - kernels, radios, memory cards and partitions and all the hacks and such things.
I read a lot - I belive, most popular ROM is FBL? So, what would I need to do with absolutely new Dream to have it? Assuming I didn´t make any preparations at all? How to prepare my phone (ROOT, radios, hacks), how to prepare my microSD card?
But my first question is much more important - I belive I will find way to flash new ROM, it will just take some time (but if there is some allmighty manual, please post it here, thanks). All I really need is good ROM to meet my expectations and any advice you can give me. I´m also ready for some discouragement so if my expectations are too high, I can face it.
Thank you!
for starting out and rooting:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_Rooting
after you finished the first process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139&highlight=2708+
then choose your rom --- not too let you down to gently but the 5 must haves you mentioned arent going to be fully found on a g1 - well im happy with it as many others are but these are old phones and what your asking for i dont know if youll get it
Thank you for posting manuals, I will study them.
ok, real must is tethering and everyday usability (stability and speed) and market. I can live with Solitaire for my travels, live wallpapers are nice but I enjoyed them on Nexus S but navigation software would be nice - at least fluent navigation with Google maps?
To get THAT look for a barebones version of android: They are only with basic apps and leave more RAM space on your phone. My first opinion would be to just buy another phone: The g1 is the first android phone ever made and is not that fast with his 450 mhz processor. And just admit: It looks ugly: Not hating g1, i have one too
I know you have high expectations, however you wont meet your requirements with a dream. slow processor and limited RAM makes running many apps impossible. I have a barebones gingerbread rom right now, no gapps, and still tends to suffer (mytouch 3g, same as the dream, just with more internal storage and no slide out keyboard)
Ok, I thank all of you. Then I would choose fastest and most stable ROM availiable with possibility of wi-fi or USB tethering. It is froyo feature so I need at least froyo. Did anyone try some navigation software like Sygic or MapFactor Navigator Free (requires Gingerbread) with Dream? If it isnt usable even with fastest ROMs, I wont have to choose ROM with navigation software in mind.
i recomend trying out lots of roms, many good one
start off with froyobylazslo (dorianx has a nice ics theme for this too!) and use brutmaps.apk and navigation will be ok and you will have wifi and tethering no problem
then try some other roms
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Yeah, the G1 was a good phone (3 years ago), we all switched to other ROMS but we develop things because we like to do things. All these people want to push the phone to its limits, and we did. Maybe over the limit. Remember this is the founding father of all android phones. Bye!
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After few days with Android 1,6 I decided to upgrade to ezgb. One time I was scared (after flashing hardspl android wouldn´t boot and I didn´t have tools to transfer new rom to SD card so I had to buy microSD-SD card adapter and copy files using notebook SD card reader). After that, it was easy and now I have ezgb... Well, I expected it would be slower, so I´m satisfied.