I have the 64 gb htc one dev edition and I thought I understood the unlocked part, but then I saw a bunch on here about unlocking bootloaders on the dev edition and that got me confused. Is the unlocked part referring to the ability to take it between carriers or the state of the bootloader?
Assuming I root my one, I still want dev updates (ota rather than flashing roms) but I also don't know what happens if I am rooted and then take an ota update. Finally, since I won't be flashing, I don't need to unlock my bootloader, right? Thanks!
Mindstar1 said:
Is the unlocked part referring to the ability to take it between carriers or the state of the bootloader?
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Both.
Some people re-lock their bootloaders at some point and then "re-un-lock" later on, but in general you shouldn't have to worry about unlocking the dev edition in either sense of the word .
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For HTC phones I've always noticed that they release the dev. edition which comes with an unlocked bootloader and is therefor rootable. Then it must be true that the regular release comes with a locked bootloader, is there generally a fast update where someone finds a way to unlock it or is the best bet to just buy a dev edition?
steptaker said:
For HTC phones I've always noticed that they release the dev. edition which comes with an unlocked bootloader and is therefor rootable. Then it must be true that the regular release comes with a locked bootloader, is there generally a fast update where someone finds a way to unlock it or is the best bet to just buy a dev edition?
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In the US unlocking the bootloader from a phone you get from at&t etc. is not completely legal: .. that being the reason why they sell the htc one dev version there!
You can unlock the phone via htcdev though It's simple and officially from htc :victory:
voltron2k11 said:
In the US unlocking the bootloader from a phone you get from at&t etc. is not completely legal: .. that being the reason why they sell the htc one dev version there!
You can unlock the phone via htcdev though It's simple and officially from htc :victory:
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WRONG. Please do not spread incorrect information.
Unlocking a bootloader on ANY DEVICE OR CARRIER in the USA is 100% LEGAL.
SteelH said:
WRONG. Please do not spread incorrect information.
Unlocking a bootloader on ANY DEVICE OR CARRIER in the USA is 100% LEGAL.
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I remember reading somewhere that the HTC One X+ was given extra restrictions by AT&T so it was harder to unlock. Can you have a bootloader sent to a website/company to have it unlocked for a small fee?
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I remember reading somewhere that the HTC One X+ was given extra restrictions by AT&T so it was harder to unlock. Can you have a bootloader sent to a website/company to have it unlocked for a small fee?
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No because if HTC dev is'nt avaliable to unlock bootloader than it's uasally xda folks that crack the bootloader and most xda folks share the unlock, plus if only some small company can crack the bootloader for a fee, the development would'nt be very good
Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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ksarius said:
Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.
SteelH said:
With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.
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You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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ksarius said:
You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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Thx! That clears my doubts. Só with s-off i Can also flash custom ROM without PC?
Now I realize why ppl say sg3 is easier.
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Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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You can flash a kernel/boot.img without fastboot or a pc even if you are s-on. There is an updater-script mod to accomplish this.
S-Off = security check off. Meaning you can flash radios/fw etc that are not signed with HTCs private key.
Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?
mih3y said:
Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?
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No you will not get ota updates if you unlock the bootloader.
But I don't know what will happen if you re-lock it!
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I will just try to buy the dev. Edition from US so I don't have to worry about unlocking lol.
My next step will be to learn how to root it and flash new ROMs
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Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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ksarius said:
Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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Yeah I know some people got it worse. :/ but also a iPhone here for 64gb is 800 I believe. Still a big price gap between 800 and 1200 though.
The reason it won't be unlockable is because AT&T in the past had always had locked bootloaders that weren't unlock able byHTC Dev. I think the One X got it after a few months but I'd prefer not to wait. But for 300 vs 650 I can wait a bit. As long as it doesn't take like a year.
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Hi,
I'm getting a HTC One this week and I would like to know whether I need to get the Developer edition to use custom roms or whether the xda community has already found a way to unlock a locked bootloader on the standard HTC One?
I'm not worried about the phone being unlocked for carriers (I'm sticking with o2).
also, is there any other benefit of the Dev Edition or is it purely so it isn't locked to a carrier and unlocked bootloader?
Hi
Greetings,
If you.want to flash a custom Rom I prefer you get the developer edition
Yes we can unlock, root and install custom Rom on the normal HTC one.
Getting the developers editions will save your time in unlocking bootloader
Choices is yours:thumbup:
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shrex said:
Hi
Greetings,
If you.want to flash a custom Rom I prefer you get the developer edition
Yes we can unlock, root and install custom Rom on the normal HTC one.
Getting the developers editions will save your time in unlocking bootloader
Choices is yours:thumbup:
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Hey, I just bought the HTC One Dev, it is on its way. I've been using iOS for a long time and this phone looks better to me than the iPhone 5.
Anyway, it will be my first Android device so I am a complete noob. Will flashing roms to Dev Edition also void the warranty? Just curious, I know that if done right, nothing will go wrong, just want to know if there is any other benefit other than 64GB and not having to root it. Another question, how can I root original Sense 5 to the phone if I later decide to sell it or just want the stock back?
Thanks in advanced.
Edit: Wrong thread
I got my htc one (non dev edition) and was able to unlock bootloader, root and install custom roms without issue.
no idea about warranty
Ok first off I'm not all that familiar with htc's ways. I know that with previous bootloader unlocks we were able to flash custom roms and what not. Now with S-off we are able to change anything on the phone software wise. So that being said is carrier branding not so much an impact now?
For instance,
My phone is an att htc one which can receive AT&T ota updates. I know with the bootloader unlock I was able to flash international roms and have all the updated goodies of the international phone owners. But that being said I was still not able to receive international OTA updates since I was still branded AT&T.
Is the Cid what determines this?
If so, with s-off can we just change it to the international, developer edition, or any other carrier ID that we choose. Then flash an RUU from that carrier and then practically be the same as having the international or developer edition phone? Would we then be able to receive OTAs just like the dev or international editions get?
Yes, you can run any RUU on your phone. That does not guarantee everything will work, however.
Flashing firmware from another carrier won't get you OTAs from them. Getting OTAs is a combination of your CID and your carrier. I can tell you from my experience with the One X, lots of folks who got AT&T phones and took them overseas after sim unlocking never got any AT&T OTAs. So I doubt it would work on this phone either.
I don't know what will happen with the Google edition, when it comes out. I don't think anyone knows until it's released. It's possible you will get OTAs from Google if you can get that on your phone.
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Yes, you can run any RUU on your phone. That does not guarantee everything will work, however.
Flashing firmware from another carrier won't get you OTAs from them. Getting OTAs is a combination of your CID and your carrier. I can tell you from my experience with the One X, lots of folks who got AT&T phones and took them overseas after sim unlocking never got any AT&T OTAs. So I doubt it would work on this phone either.
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Thanks for your response.
Ok say for instance I buy an HTC One Dev edition strait from htc. I then put that phone on at&ts service. I would stiill get ota's strait from htc right?
So for my at&t branded htc one with s-off. Assuming that I have the cid from the dev edition and a stock dev edition ruu, what else would be there to stop me from getting ota's strait from htc like the dev edition does?
First off, to use dev ruu you need supercid.
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First off, to use dev ruu you need supercid.
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So you couldnt install a dev ruu with the dev cid? What else would keep it from installing?
Ok let me put it like this. As far as I know there is no hardware differences between the htc one dev edition and the htc one at&t edition. That being said since we have s-off and are now able to change anything and everything on the phone software wise, can we not convert our at&t devices over to htc one dev editions and get OTAs directly from HTC and what not?
what is supercid? cid - 11111111?
andyt315 said:
what is supercid? cid - 11111111?
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yes that is supercid
As long as you have the dev edition cid and the dev edition ruu, theoretically you should get the OTA updates. Same with the Google Edition because these two are not carrier branded and the updates come directly from HTC and Google.
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As long as you have the dev edition cid and the dev edition ruu, theoretically you should get the OTA updates. Same with the Google Edition because these two are not carrier branded and the updates come directly from HTC.
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I thought Google will be the one releasing all the updates for the Nexus edition (Google experience) phones?
Consider Developer Edition still stuck on 4.12, I would hope Nexus edition updates are handled by Google not HTC
msz006 said:
I thought Google will be the one releasing all the updates for the Nexus edition (Google experience) phones?
Consider Developer Edition still stuck on 4.12, I would hope Nexus edition updates are handled by Google not HTC
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Google will directly provide the updates as far as I know
msz006 said:
I thought Google will be the one releasing all the updates for the Nexus edition (Google experience) phones?
Consider Developer Edition still stuck on 4.12, I would hope Nexus edition updates are handled by Google not HTC
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Yea sorry I meant these updates come directly from HTC and Google. I fixed my post.
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I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
Unlocking phone has nothing do with updates. If you have T-Mobile version doesn't matter if it's Sim locked or unlocked, updates still come from T-Mobile. If you want updates from HTC you have to buy the unlocked model or Dev edition directly from HTC site.
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Unlocking phone has nothing do with updates. If you have T-Mobile version doesn't matter if it's Sim locked or unlocked, updates still come from T-Mobile. If you want updates from HTC you have to buy the unlocked model or Dev edition directly from HTC site.
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You can always use the SunShine app and change your device to any model you want.. including the developer edition and then you will get updates straight from HTC.
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You can always use the SunShine app and change your device to any model you want.. including the developer edition and then you will get updates straight from HTC.
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Thanks might just do that...is it an easy process?
hi can the T-Mobile Version be unlocked/Rooted?
hi i have an HTC M9 from T-mobile, i was checking the boot loader but it doesn't have the fast boot option, I've played around and i noticed that in download mode the fast boot command worked. so. i was wondering it can be unlocked or if T-mobile Locked it like the Xperia Z1s.
i watched a video on how to root it on "any variant" but theirs have been unlocked, i think they have Developers edition but now im wondering if its just mine that is locked.
yes can verify.. you can sim unlock device. travel a lot so need to be able to pop in a telcel chip. only snag is you need to flash a non-tmobile base rom first, Then it will ask for unlock sim code and your set. can leave it on non-tmobile base rom or like me reflash tmobile rom and your set. hope that helps
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yes can verify.. you can sim unlock device. travel a lot so need to be able to pop in a telcel chip. only snag is you need to flash a non-tmobile base rom first, Then it will ask for unlock sim code and your set. can leave it on non-tmobile base rom or like me reflash tmobile rom and your set. hope that helps
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When you say a non tmobile base do you mean flash a custom rom onto the device? Thanks
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xda23 said:
When you say a non tmobile base do you mean flash a custom rom onto the device? Thanks
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Yes any custom rom not based on T-Mobile... There aren't any T-Mobile base roms except stock .. well that I know .. I installed viperone and was able to unlock sim with code . But then reflashed stock as I need Wi-Fi calling
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You can always use the SunShine app and change your device to any model you want.. including the developer edition and then you will get updates straight from HTC.
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The only thing sunshine does is s-off your device right? Thanks!!!
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xda23 said:
The only thing sunshine does is s-off your device right? Thanks!!!
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Yes, sunshine will s-off your device. That will allow you to change cid and mid and turn your device into a dev edition or any other M9 released. Just note the radio/modem of your phone won't change. It won't gain support for other bands, but some may be disabled depending on the RUU you flash.