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HTC One Camera - very blurry

I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?

Is the lens dirty or covered by anything? Try tapping the screen to focus. Do you have a sample to show us?
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mrkool444 said:
I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?
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The photos are grainy because of the ultra pixel system that they used in this camera. It is sort of a trade off really....in order to get those nice low light shots they had to devise a camera with larger light sensitive cells. It is like in the old film days when you used 1600 speed film for low light conditions but ended up with pictures that were super grainy. Same concept but now in digital form.

I know what the OP is talking about, this is a different issue than just having grainy pictures. Mine cannot seem to focus on anything more than 10 ft away. I'm attaching an example from a graduation last night. The focus was so bad that I will not using any of these pictures for anything.

And yes I tapped on the screen multiple times to get it to focus, this is what came out. I can replicate this basically anytime when taking pictures of anything kind of far away. It freaking sucks.

This is not due to not focusing or pics being slightly grainy
Im saying the pics are awful.. Way out of focus and look distorted, phone is only 3 days old so it's not a dirty lens
Taking this back to sprint today... Will update you guys on what they do for me..

I've had time where the front camera is blurry from smudges on the lens taking it out of my pocket. Wiping off the lens helps. It happens pretty frequently actually.
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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.

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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.
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I went to the sprint store yesterday and they exchanged it out for a new HTC one.
Same problem with the new one. Blurry images, out of focus objects, when you zoom in the images, they are too grainy/fuzzy.
I'm now beginning to understand that it's not a hardware problem, but just a bad camera on the HTC One.
I have been comparing pictures over the past 3 days from HTC One vs my 3 year old Galaxy S2 phone.
The galaxy s2 phone pictures are significantly more clear, crisp and more detailed.
The HTC One pictures are routinely blurry, noisy and just plain out of focus in certain areas.
The HTC one pictures look good when you look at them zoomed out...but when you pinch n zoom in, you begin to see fuzzy edges and blurred focus. This does not happen on my S2.
The S2 images are 3.5 MB with resolution of 3264x2448
The HTC one images are 2.17 MB with resolution of 2688x1520
So, clearly, the galaxy s2 pics are going to look better.
I love everything about the HTC one , but the camera is a total disappointment. I wish it was a hardware defect so I could swap it for a better unit, but I suppose that's just how it is

I am on badseed rom and I opened zip and replaced the camera.apk with the new one found in international roms and wiped and reflashed and my camera is 1000% better . The one I used is from cleanrom 2.0

Mine has been the same way and I use it a lot for work. I will try the different apk.

Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.

thronnos said:
Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.
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Not sure all I know is ever since I've had the phone (I've used stock, Viper, and badseed) it's been that way.

I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
It's like it only focuses in the center of the picture... everything around the center is blurry even if i touch the screen outside the center.
Here are some examples:

I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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gk1984 said:
I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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Still don't really understand the issue... Never had these problems with my GS3. And it really has nothing to do with background/foreground... Everything that is the same distance form the lens that is outside the center is blurry as %^#@.

I took another look outside the app at the pics. I think it's a shallow depth of field. Our camera is capable of a much lower f-stop than most others. The average consumer camera it around 3.5 f-stop for example. Until the HTC amaze, android phones never had an f-stop this low. I'm not sure what the galaxy's used though.
The pic of the signs tells me a lot that this is the case. Most people like this effect as it's artsy. The sign on the left is in focus and closer to the camera, the sign to the right is further away and not in focus. This is what depth of field is. Shallow depth of field is a smaller area in focus.
Now, I don't want to make excuses for HTC. The f-stop isn't a fixed number. It's supposed to be adjustable in cameras, we just may not have the option to. Try using landscape mode. That should keep everything in focus. This depth of field shouldn't be for every pic
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tkoreaper said:
I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
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If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.

themuffinman said:
If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.
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I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..

tkoreaper said:
I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..
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Oh ok, well I used root explorer to replace the apk and it worked just fine. Anyway I do see a difference with the newer apk.

[Q] Camera problems

So I've received my HTC One and I am extremely pleased with it, there's just two questions that need clearing up for me.
The camera lens cover is a bit tilted. I have no idea if the actual sensor is also tilted or if it isolated to the glass. It seems off to me but does not seem to impact image quality, but should I get it replaced?
The camera also seems to make some sort of a click noise when I start it. Is this normal or is my One further defect?
Thanks!

U not the only one man..till now I still don't now is it a factory difect or what.
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That's not right. Get it replaced.

I always have this purplish hue surrounding the edges when in the camera app. It's specially noticeable when I'm taking pictures in low light.
Plus when I cover the lens with my hand, rather than going black. It becomes red :/
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Rage1ofakind said:
I always have this purplish hue surrounding the edges when in the camera app. It's specially noticeable when I'm taking pictures in low light.
Plus when I cover the lens with my hand, rather than going black. It becomes red :/
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I have the exact same issue in low light. Would be great to hear if that's normal for most or not.

chuck232 said:
I have the exact same issue in low light. Would be great to hear if that's normal for most or not.
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It's an already known issue, has to do with the sensor being extremely sensitive. No need to worry

My brother has the One as well and it doesbt happen to his one. Plus when I do side by side shots of the same thing, his Camera takes better crisper pictures :what:

[Q] Big Issue on photos with flash

Hi, friends.
I have a big issue in my Moto X... When I take a photo with flash, the color is very blurry and purple...
Any people with this? I received the OTA for the camera.
Thanks

juniorxdb said:
Hi, friends.
I have a big issue in my Moto X... When I take a photo with flash, the color is very blurry and purple...
Any people with this? I received the OTA for the camera.
Thanks
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Was this happening before OTA? When you take pics, make sure your finger isn't covering the LED flash; that may be the issue. Otherwise, your only choice is to return it D:

jhnl33 said:
Was this happening before OTA? When you take pics, make sure your finger isn't covering the LED flash; that may be the issue. Otherwise, your only choice is to return it D:
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I didin't see before the OTA, bacause when I turned on the device, appeared the update...
Mi finger didn't touch the lens when I took the photo..

Does it happen All the time or just with these photos? Looks like the light is reflecting off the cars, and in such a small space, it may make the auto light sensors go haywire... Just a thought.
Try taking a photo with the flash in a wide open space and see if you can replicate it.
I have no issues with photos coming out like that with the flash.
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juniorxdb said:
I didin't see before the OTA, bacause when I turned on the device, appeared the update...
Mi finger didn't touch the lens when I took the photo..
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Oh, I wasn't talking about fingering covering the lens. I was talking about finger covering the LED flash so that the light would bounce off your finger and into the lens, thus causing the blurry and purply and bright picture. Try taking a picture in the exact same spot with none of your fingers on the back of the phone.
Also, perhaps you might be using a case that is deflecting light into the lens as well?

This may be a very basic suggestion , but I mention it because I have been guilty of this in the past . Did you take off the little piece of plastic film that covers the lens?
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DoogieDC said:
This may be a very basic suggestion , but I mention it because I have been guilty of this in the past . Did you take off the little piece of plastic film that covers the lens?
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This makes a lot if sense, if the plastic cover was still on it would take the very close light from the led and transfer it through the plastic, thus illuminating the plastic like fiber optic. And that little plastic cover would be easy to miss and may not be that noticeable with non flash photos.
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The camera is okay on the moto X, I have done a lot of post edits because of this phone lol. Thanks to snapseed and picsay pro. Pretty much every time I take a photo in gonna be spending 5 mins or so editing it. IMO it's a good trade off for touchless control and active notifications.
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jhnl33 said:
Oh, I wasn't talking about fingering covering the lens. I was talking about finger covering the LED flash so that the light would bounce off your finger and into the lens, thus causing the blurry and purply and bright picture. Try taking a picture in the exact same spot with none of your fingers on the back of the phone.
Also, perhaps you might be using a case that is deflecting light into the lens as well?
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This is what I was going to suggest. I noticed that if your finger is close to the LED, the light bounces off of your finger and the result is pictures like the ones you posted.

skinien said:
This is what I was going to suggest. I noticed that if your finger is close to the LED, the light bounces off of your finger and the result is pictures like the ones you posted.
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Hi, everebody. My Moto X has problems with the camera and the Motorola's Support will sweep the phone. The colors are always red when I use flash.
Thanks, friends!

Camera can't focus on anything

The camera cannot focus at all when I'm taking a close range shot. Pictures always come blurry as a result. Anyone else have this issue?
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Have you taken the plastic film off of the camera lens
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
Have you taken the plastic film off of the camera lens
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eek:OOOOOO wow, can't believe I didn't see that! Always thought I already scratched it! Don't recall att doing this for any other phone
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abraxo said:
eekeek:OOOO wow, can't believe I didn't see that! Always thought I already scratched it! Don't recall att doing this for any other phone
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Lol two of my friends had the same problem they did it with the s4 as well
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abraxo said:
eekeek:OOOO wow, can't believe I didn't see that! Always thought I already scratched it! Don't recall att doing this for any other phone
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If you looked at the film that covered the lense, it didn't actually cover the lense center. There is a hole in it for the shooter even if you don't remove it. That wasn't the cause. The shooter is just wonky on finding good contrast for focus, especially anything less than 6"

I have also the same problem.

byte9 said:
If you looked at the film that covered the lense, it didn't actually cover the lense center. There is a hole in it for the shooter even if you don't remove it. That wasn't the cause. The shooter is just wonky on finding good contrast for focus, especially anything less than 6"
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It still effects the focus it happens on the s4 and on the s5 you must have a bad camera
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It does not effect the camera, it is not in line of sight. My camera works fine(I don't have the film, regardless). The cameras focal distance isn't great if the subject isnt super high contrast if less than 6".
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.

byte9 said:
It does not effect the camera, it is not in line of sight. My camera works fine(I don't have the film, regardless). The cameras focal distance isn't great if the subject isnt super high contrast if less than 6".
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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Dude you have no idea what your talking about lol I bet it fixed op problem. The camera is a wide lense the plastic will mess up the focus. I have no problem taking close up pictures of flowers or anything for that matter
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
Dude you have no idea what your talking about lol I bet it fixed op problem. The camera is a wide lense the plastic will mess up the focus. I have no problem taking close up pictures of flowers or anything for that matter
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Source, because no. This rear camera is not a wide angle in the strictest sense. By your logic it would take pictures of its own bezel if the small film would be in line of sight. That's not the case, the front camera is an 88 degree wide for close field (selfies and such) the rear is not.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.

byte9 said:
Source, because no. This rear camera is not a wide angle in the strictest sense. By your logic it would take pictures of its own bezel if the small film would be in line of sight. That's not the case, the front camera is an 88 degree wide for close field (selfies and such) the rear is not.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_CAM_DSGBg
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/718403-s4-camera-tips-thread.html (post #4, #7)
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...plastic-covering-galaxy-s4-camera-lens-2.html (post #45, #46)
Im sorry but I had the same problem with the s4, s5, and so did a whole bunch of people. If you dont know what your talking about then why are you still arguing. It clearly messes up the focus because A: Dust and hair start to collect over it and B: it keeps trying to focus while its on which causes blurry pics
And if OP could chime in I bet removing this made his camera better

I wasn't arguing, I stated its not a wide angle, it isn't. The front lenses is 88degree for wide. I also still stand(with no sticker) that the rear shooter isn't the greatest at focus. These sensors are still just over hyped webcams. My bias towards specific detail comes from photography experience.
Further, I hope OPs problem is solved too.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.

byte9 said:
I wasn't arguing, I stated its not a wide angle, it isn't. The front lenses is 88degree for wide. I also still stand(with no sticker) that the rear shooter isn't the greatest at focus. These sensors are still just over hyped webcams. My bias towards specific detail comes from photography experience.
Further, I hope OPs problem is solved too.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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See I dont have a problem with focusing unless im a inch above it but i feel like thats expected with theses cellphone cameras. I just like the fact how much detail it retains

I still have the little plastic film on my lens and have no problem taking picture with it! Not once my pictures were affected by the film.
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big samm said:
I still have the little plastic film on my lens and have no problem taking picture with it! Not once my pictures were affected by the film.
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Like you, I kept it on my S4 for a long time and it didn't cause any problems either. However, like I mentioned before, not all of these phones are alike. It might not cause a problem for some while it does for others.
To the OP, the best thing to do is remove it and see if the problem persists. If it does, exchange the phone until you get one that works right.

It still effects the focus it happens on the s4 and on the s5 you must have a bad camera

New Camera for the M8

I love everything about this phone but, the camera sux. Hope HTC gives current M8 owners a special deal. I doubt it, lol
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/09/26/new-htc-one-m8-release-could-deliver-improved-camera/
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I'll pass, nothing wrong with my camera, higher Megapixels means larger file size. Pain in the ass trying to send pics through MMS. I'll wait for the M9, full glass screen looks sexy.

Once i cleaned that film off the lense the camera has been perfect.

My focus seems to lock on faster too after cleaning the lenses.
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I could have used the 13 megapixel camera the other day verses the 4 MP. Took a picture that I wanted to blow up poster sized that turned out grainy...
That is the one thing that I dislike about HTC, they keep releasing phone after phone after phone with additional features and functions. So when you paid for the latest and greatest you have outdated technology...

weidnerj said:
I could have used the 13 megapixel camera the other day verses the 4 MP. Took a picture that I wanted to blow up poster sized that turned out grainy...
That is the one thing that I dislike about HTC, they keep releasing phone after phone after phone with additional features and functions. So when you paid for the latest and greatest you have outdated technology...
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There is this other technology called a real camera if you wanted a poster size picture. Even with a 13 megapixel cellphone camera it is going to look grainy compared to a SLR camera.

benny3 said:
Once i cleaned that film off the lense the camera has been perfect.
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I did the same thing, one day the pics looked horrible then I read up on it and did the toothpaste and cotton swab trick and my pics have been great. Very strange how it went bad like that, but, as it was said the pictures for me do what I need.

Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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http://www.androidauthority.com/one-m8-eye-specs-price-535776/

robbo10 said:
Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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I personally had better luck with the corner of a credit card method. I tried the toothpaste and swab but I guess it wasn't gritty enough (not enough baking soda in the paste) or something. For me it just made the film on the lens worse, then I tried the credit card method and worked like a charm.
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I agree that the camera on this phone sucks. Looking forward to Nexus6.

schmeggy929 said:
There is this other technology called a real camera if you wanted a poster size picture. Even with a 13 megapixel cellphone camera it is going to look grainy compared to a SLR camera.
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Exactly. I don't know why people think higher megapixels = better pictures. This camera is fine to me.

ajones7279 said:
Exactly. I don't know why people think higher megapixels = better pictures. This camera is fine to me.
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+1 on this. Folks gotta keep in mind that the camers isnt an Olympus or a Nikon. Its a phone camera. There are alot of editing apps out there to make the pics you take with a phone much much better. I use SnapSeed for editing with some pretty impressive results.

The camera on this thing sucks. Period. The front camera is ridden with distortion as is the back camera. I have a pro camera as I am a photographer, howvwer I expect my phone that was advertised as having amazing camera. to at least take decent pics. It just doesn't. I do like take the occasional selfie, but never end up using it because there is just too much distortion. People say we expect too much from cell phone cameras. BS. I had a G2, it took excellent pics. As did all of my iPhones. This phones camera is a POS
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Success100 said:
The camera on this thing sucks. Period. The front camera is ridden with distortion as is the back camera. I have a pro camera as I am a photographer, howvwer I expect my phone that was advertised as having amazing camera. to at least take decent pics. It just doesn't. I do like take the occasional selfie, but never end up using it because there is just too much distortion. People say we expect too much from cell phone cameras. BS. I had a G2, it took excellent pics. As did all of my iPhones. This phones camera is a POS
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I honestly have no issue with the camera on this device. Ask the selfies I've taken turned it great. Maybe your camera lenses need to be cleaned?

I've had two m8's. Both have suffered from terrible distortion. Start your front camera and take a pic of yourself. Notice how if the camera Is on anything but the same plane as your face your head gets distorted. The top of your head looks stretched out, etc. There have been a lot of other people complainging about the distortion and that isn't caused by a dirty lens
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Success100 said:
I've had two m8's. Both have suffered from terrible distortion. Start your front camera and take a pic of yourself. Notice how if the camera Is on anything but the same plane as your face your head gets distorted. The top of your head looks stretched out, etc. There have been a lot of other people complainging about the distortion and that isn't caused by a dirty lens
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As a photographer you should know that even with a dslr you get distortion depending on focal length and lens.. You expect better from a front facing cell cam??I Don't personally use the front cam as I don't take selfies but rear cam has produced some great shots, but it's a cell phone so instagram is all that I use it for. Wouldn't dare pull it out to take pics of clients.
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ronniemayo said:
As a photographer you should know that even with a dslr you get distortion depending on focal length and lens.. You expect better from a front facing cell cam??I Don't personally use the front cam as I don't take selfies but rear cam has produced some great shots, but it's a cell phone so instagram is all that I use it for. Wouldn't dare pull it out to take pics of clients.
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You are absolutely right, but they also have in camera software that automatically corrects it under certain conditions. Or you fix it in post. Heck it also depends on the lens manufacturer. One lens can be 50mm with almost no distortion, the next 50mm lens could be riddled with distortion so it also depends on the lens you choose. Also with SLR cameras there a thousand lenses so it's a different ball game. This is one lens, one phone, one focal length, with absolutely repeatable results. That could not have been possibly been missed during the testing of this phone. If they wanted to keep costs low, understandable because it IS just a phone canera, but they could have easily compensated by fixing it in the cameras software It's bad enough to a point where I'm ready to switch devices... as much as I love this phone. If you don't take selfies that's fine, but for us that do, having your head elongated and your facial features distorted if the phone is not absolutely 100% perfectly parallel to your face is to me, absurd..considering there are a ton of other phones, similarly equipped camera wise, that do not suffer from this issue.
It boggles me. I can deal with a little distortion. However the distortion in the "selfie" camera is extreme. Ruins every shot. This should have been a situation in which during testing and software development, which IM SURE THEY EXPERIENCED, that they have put a script in there to fix the distortion. They knew they put a wide angle lens in the front camera assembly, and should have put the software fixes there to correct it, because every m8 experiences it (I've tried SEVERAL. and there are tons of complaints about it) Do I expect too much? NO! There are a thousand other camera phones that have wide front elements, that do NOT suffer from the same level of distortion, and if they do have it, they were smart enough to have the software fix it before it spits out the final picture to you. Flagship android device, ruined by a terrible front facing camera. My opinion
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Success100 said:
You are absolutely right, but they also have in camera software that automatically corrects it under certain conditions. Or you fix it in post. Heck it also depends on the lens manufacturer. One lens can be 50mm with almost no distortion, the next 50mm lens could be riddled with distortion so it also depends on the lens you choose. Also with SLR cameras there a thousand lenses so it's a different ball game. This is one lens, one phone, one focal length, with absolutely repeatable results. That could not have been possibly been missed during the testing of this phone. If they wanted to keep costs low, understandable because it IS just a phone canera, but they could have easily compensated by fixing it in the cameras software It's bad enough to a point where I'm ready to switch devices... as much as I love this phone. If you don't take selfies that's fine, but for us that do, having your head elongated and your facial features distorted if the phone is not absolutely 100% perfectly parallel to your face is to me, absurd..considering there are a ton of other phones, similarly equipped camera wise, that do not suffer from this issue.
It boggles me. I can deal with a little distortion. However the distortion in the "selfie" camera is extreme. Ruins every shot. This should have been a situation in which during testing and software development, which IM SURE THEY EXPERIENCED, that they have put a script in there to fix the distortion. They knew they put a wide angle lens in the front camera assembly, and should have put the software fixes there to correct it, because every m8 experiences it (I've tried SEVERAL. and there are tons of complaints about it) Do I expect too much? NO! There are a thousand other camera phones that have wide front elements, that do NOT suffer from the same level of distortion, and if they do have it, they were smart enough to have the software fix it before it spits out the final picture to you. Flagship android device, ruined by a terrible front facing camera. My opinion
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Completely understand, and maybe that's why in the new phone models they went in a different direction with the front cam.
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