Hello!
I have a question,i have a 40-50 aplication that work in background,when i open task killer and start ,always is open 40 or 50 system or user application ,i use a task killer every 20minutes and always is the same. How can i permenetly shut down that open aplications,becouse it drain my battery very fast and i can use my phone only 5 hours.
What aplication is the best for task killer and how can i solve this problem?
Is nessesery to be open so many working aplication? Is this have effect on battery?
Sorry for my bad english_
Thx in advance!
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40-50 apps? I guess it's showing you the running processes and not apps. Some of them maybe system processes. And you can disable the apps through settings-applications-running-click on a app and disable. And 5 hours battery life isn't very bad if the usage is continuous with WiFi on!
Yes, i think that is a process running. I dont use wi-fi only gprs and still 5 hours of battery is a very litlle time to use_
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Look 5 hrs when youre using your phone constantly isn't very bad! How old is your battery? Do hit thanks if i helpes
Battery is 2 months old.. but i wont to solve problem with that process that open in background,is that also normal? To be so much open,some of that is process but some of that is program..i will put a screenshot..
RUNNING PROGRAM:50!! I DONT USE HALF OF THAT BUT STILL IS OPEN,how can i close em down?
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It isn't normal for so many processes to be running. You are using the Touchwiz firmware. When you restart your phone and start an app, say messaging, it takes a certain time to open. Now when you close it(Not force close), and open messaging again, the time required for it to open will be significantly lesser than the last time as the process is running in the background. What I'd suggest yoy to improve your battery life is you make it a habit to periodically close the recent apps(long press home and slide the apps sidewards). And for apps like viber, uninstall them if you don't use them because apps relating to IM like gtalk, viber, skype, whatsapp will always run in the background. And do go to settings-battery to check out the battery consumption and you'll know the culprit there
Try this app Greenify if your phone is rooted, works wonders
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...eenify&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Ya. Greenify is able to hibernate downloaded apps.
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or you can try go to settings > developers options > limit background processes > and set limit to 4 process only, it doesnt affect stability and it boost performance a bit for me
I think it can help a little,..
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As a general rule, free RAM is wasted RAM (except when it gets too low): http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care.
As you will read, task killers are additionally counter-productive, because most of the killed apps will restart, using more battery and cpu. The most sensible way to preserve battery and resources it to use app like Autorun Manager or Autostarts, with which you can disable specific triggers causing selected apps to autorun.
If you care about battery saving, you can find more info in those two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
P.S. 5 hours of active usage on Note I is not that bad
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The for these answers.
It helps me a lot. I don't have rooted phone
But can I root the phone and get access to system and root files but I want to keep this official ROM but still have rooted phone, is that possible?
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Very much possible bro. Just root the phone, don't install any new ROM. There are very safe threads on how to root here in the android development forum. The PhilZ method is very easy and recommended.
What about upadete? If I root the phone,if there be an official update can I download and update the phone or 4.1.2 is the last that this phone will get? When I root the phone then I will can turn off this background programs and process?
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And one more thing:can you left me a link to philz root.. I don't have a computer and if you can make me search easier I will thank you a thausend time
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And one more thing:can you left me a link to philz root.. I don't have a computer and if you can make me search easier I will thank you a thausend time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Follow that link above. And after you root, you'll be able to use apps like greenify and the others suugested earlier in the thread. The app greenify is very useful, developed by a xda member, it allows you to hibernate apps so that a non-system process starts only when you use the app and not by itself. And yes you'll be able to update though im not sure if there will be a 4.2.2 update for note any soon. Anyway once you root, you can always install a supported custom ROM with the highest android version!
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The for these answers.
It helps me a lot. I don't have rooted phone
But can I root the phone and get access to system and root files but I want to keep this official ROM but still have rooted phone, is that possible?
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Yes. It is possible to have stock rom with root. Try searching for philz kernel. Get the one that matches your rom and flash it in recovery mode. But of cause your recovery will be changed to CWM recovery.
And it is also possible that you will not he able to.get OTA or Kies update anymore.
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Been having a battery drain problem lately when the phone is idle..so I was looking at the running processes. Anybody know what the following are, and if they are necessary?
-AABSyncService (process: com.smids)
-ICsService (process: com.android.samsung.IcsService)
No idea what they are but u can just terminate those processes and see what happens and have u cleared your battery stats via cwm cwm advanced features
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No idea what they are but u can just terminate those processes and see what happens and have u cleared your battery stats via cwm cwm advanced features
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I haven't cleared my battery stats. What is that "cwm advanced features"?
Did some online searching and found:
snsservice = security and system notifications
omaDRMconfig = protected media license checker.
Gtalk = google talk chat service
DMservice = device manager
AABSYNC = android address book sync
I read that you shouldn't stop these or your phone may act "flakey" And according to a March '10 Android Central article, any process that has "android" or the manufacturer's name in it, shouldn't be stopped.
Cwm clockwork mod o ..... if u don't have a custom rom or rom manager or root then u wont have this
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Thanks for the info guys..
A random question to add to this topic..
What is it with Android and wanting to keep process running and even starting them back up again almost as soon as you kill them with a task killer?
I recently got a free task killer but I am not sure if it worth it if tasks just start back up on their own..
I hear Android is suppose to end processes if it doesn't see active use for awhile, true?
Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.
Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.
And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!
Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?
Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.
How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.
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What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.
freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok
I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...
And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!
Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.
there is lots of taskkiller software they are killing programs running at background and must of have whitelist feature. but main problem is after autokilling 90percent of software auto launch again. I am using rocket rom. Is there any way to prevent auto launch on my rom or at any others rom?
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Thats the way android works
But they dont actually drain your battery
You could try freezing them apps using titanium backup I think.
Respect!
i know freezing but i will use them when necessary during day. There is lots of custom rom on android. I think this should not impossible
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if you are talking about the startup items.. use something like autostarts which can effectively manage them
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
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Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.
Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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Dear Friends, I'm Currently running in Stock I9305XXBME1 rooted deodexed, i had problem with stock browser, sometimes it closes when I try to return for previous pages, is this normal? well could someone here can help my question. Many thanks
Definately not normal, I've had the browser open with a good few and very rare for them to reload.
You might have some memory hungry apps running in the background, get a task manager to monitor apps ram usage
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omair.shabir said:
Definately not normal, I've had the browser open with a good few and very rare for them to reload.
You might have some memory hungry apps running in the background, get a task manager to monitor apps ram usage
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Thanks Mate, but I really not have any hungger memory app inside, I also remove all samsung app, its very clean I had 1.3 Gb Free Ram. but I had little modification in res image in stock like phone, browser, callculator, messaging, setting and more :laugh: maybe I'll try to restore them first and see the diffirence.. Thanks anyway