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They told me that my code can be used five times before it is permanently locked to att service.
Is this true?
Ive never ever heard of that! Usually when the code is entered the phone is unlocked for life.
Why would you need to use the Unlock code more than once?
Once the phone is SIM unlocked, it unlocked, you can put any SIM in it...forever.
Sounds like the CS rep is demonstrating his/her usual amazing command of the technical world (caution: irony!)
You will be unlocking your SIM card only...Not your phone.
If you have a 'Tilt' the best recommendation is to re-flash to a good ROM,(Tilt is a very basic OLD bug ridden ROM) IMO the latest HTC ROM as they built the device is best!!!
Um, no. You will be SIM unlocking your phone. That means you can then use any company network SIM card (i.e. Tmo) with your Tilt. Of course as long as its GSM.
SIM Unlocking != CID Unlocking. SIM unlocking, as I said, lets you use other carrier SIM cards. CID unlocking lets you put any Kaiser ROM on the phone. Without CID unlocking, you can only use the AT&T Tilt ROMs.
You only have to enter the SIM unlock code they gave you once.
The "5 times" comment is if you screw up and mistype it 5 times, your phone will not accept the Unlock code.
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Um, no. You will be SIM unlocking your phone. That means you can then use any company network SIM card (i.e. Tmo) with your Tilt. Of course as long as its GSM.
SIM Unlocking != CID Unlocking. SIM unlocking, as I said, lets you use other carrier SIM cards. CID unlocking lets you put any Kaiser ROM on the phone. Without CID unlocking, you can only use the AT&T Tilt ROMs.
You only have to enter the SIM unlock code they gave you once.
The "5 times" comment is if you screw up and mistype it 5 times, your phone will not accept the Unlock code.
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Not my experience in the US with a 'non carrier' phone but what the hey!
What works for you best...
If it's a non-carrier phone then, by definition it's SIM unlocked - IE you can put anyone's SIM in it and, so long as the SIM hasn't been disabled (by being reported stolen for example) or it's a Pay As You Go with no money left then it will work.
As said before, SIM unlocking means SIM unlocking the phone.
CID unlocking means CID unlocking the phone.
Both are one-way trips.
SIM unlocking means you can use anyone's SIM.
CID unlocking means you can use anyone's Operating system that supports the hardware.
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You will be unlocking your SIM card only...Not your phone.
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No, that's not correct. You unlock your phone not the SIM card.
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No, that's not correct. You unlock your phone not the SIM card.
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Just humour me... Try another SIM card please.
I worked there for 2 yrs and could not completly unlock my phone but it may have changed.
Farsquidge said:
Just humour me... Try another SIM card please.
I worked there for 2 yrs and could not completly unlock my phone but it may have changed.
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I'm doing it right now. I have a AT&T plan in the US and I now I'm in Spain, using Movistar.
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I'm doing it right now. I have a AT&T plan in the US and I now I'm in Spain, using Movistar.
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Wonderful... you have just confirmed to me that there are people still on here ready to try something new. I will freely admit I do not know all and will listen to any new ideas/developements. But I will not commit to a blind view without all the facts!!!
Power to your profile!!! (cant say elbow as that only works in the UK!)
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Wonderful... you have just confirmed to me that there are people still on here ready to try something new. I will freely admit I do not know all and will listen to any new ideas/developements. But I will not commit to a blind view without all the facts!!!
Power to your profile!!! (cant say elbow as that only works in the UK!)
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maybe you should read staryon's 1st post again, he disagrees with you also. As everyone else has said here, unlocking the phone is what happens when you call AT&T and request a code. The code that AT&T gives you only works with the IMEI of the phone, it has nothing to do with the sim card. AT&T isn't going to ask for the sim id, they ask for IMEI of the phone (located under the battery).
Most likely staryon has a SIM-unlocked Tilt.
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Wonderful... you have just confirmed to me that there are people still on here ready to try something new. I will freely admit I do not know all and will listen to any new ideas/developements. But I will not commit to a blind view without all the facts!!!
Power to your profile!!! (cant say elbow as that only works in the UK!)
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ATT will give you the UNLOCK code for the phone.. Not the SIM card.. I have had a blackjack and an 8525 that was unlocked using the code after calling ATT/Cingular department. I took my friends t-mobile sim card, put it into my phone and via, it worked as if it was a tmobile phone to make calls. Same with the 8525 but I put a german pre paid sim card and used it for 3 weeks over there, came back to the states put my att sim card back into it and it worked on att again...
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Um, no. You will be SIM unlocking your phone. That means you can then use any company network SIM card (i.e. Tmo) with your Tilt. Of course as long as its GSM.
SIM Unlocking != CID Unlocking. SIM unlocking, as I said, lets you use other carrier SIM cards. CID unlocking lets you put any Kaiser ROM on the phone. Without CID unlocking, you can only use the AT&T Tilt ROMs.
You only have to enter the SIM unlock code they gave you once.
The "5 times" comment is if you screw up and mistype it 5 times, your phone will not accept the Unlock code.
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Yeah she said that if I screw it up five times it will lock to att. I thought that was weird.
Also she said she had to change something in my international portion of my plan. she did not fully explain. does anyone know what could have been changed?
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ATT will give you the UNLOCK code for the phone.. Not the SIM card..
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Sorry guys, I think I must be working from old info and things have changed since then.
A few years ago.... I got Verizon to unlock my US phone for a UK SIM card and all I ended up with was the capability of the phone to use just the Verizon card and my UK one. If I tried to put any other SIM in it, it would not work.
Soz again, forget my input and excuse an old 'Fart'
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Yeah she said that if I screw it up five times it will lock to att. I thought that was weird.
Also she said she had to change something in my international portion of my plan. she did not fully explain. does anyone know what could have been changed?
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Yes, AT&T will give out free unlock codes. But to justify it, they are assuming you will need your phone unlocked because you are using it internationally. Of course, they expect that if you are in the US, you are using AT&T's network and thus have no reason to use it with any other US carrier SIM like TMobile.
So, since they make this assumption, they most likely added 1 or 2 items to your monthly bill:
1. AT&T World Connect
2. AT&T International Roaming
THe first lets you call anywhere in the world from the US for reduced (though still quite expensive) per minute rate. The rates are reduced (e.g. 2.29 to 1.99 per minute), but they charge you a monthly set fee (like $5 or so).
The second gives you special rates when roaming in other countries, while still using your AT&T SIM. Again, it just gives reduced per minute rates, that are still quite expensive. I think this one costs a monthly fee of about $9per month.
Also, they need to "provision" your phone to be able to access thenetwork outside of the US. THis does NOT cost anything, but it must be done or your AT&T SIM card phone will never get a signal outside of the US. This is a spearate step that they only give to people who ask for int'l access. Cuz if they just let everyone access int'l networks, some people might not realize the ridiculous per minute rates they charge and end up getting an extremely high monthly bill.
So, anyways, the point is: in AT&T's mind you will only use AT&T SIM for your phone in the US. And the only reaosn they let you unlock it is to use in internationally with a non-US carrier's SIM. So, since they assume that, they may have added some charges to your monthly bill. Its not 100% that they did add the charges and only added the provisioning, but you might want to check.
Go check your online account via att.com/wireless. Check your monthly services. If you see these items, and you do not need them because you arent' going to make calls on AT&T's SIM to or from outside the US, remove those items from our services and you will be credited pro-rated.
Oh, and as for theunlock code they gave you. Assuming you typed it in correctly and got your phone unlocked successfully, you can keep the code, BUT YOU WILL NEVER NEED IT AGAIN. It only needs to get typed in once. Even if you hard reset and flash your phone with a new ROM, you will not need to unlock it again. And it will NOT work for anyone else, so don't think that you can give it to 4 other people and it will work. The unlock codes are unique to the phone via IMEI number.
anybody needs to Unlock ther Kaiser,
PM me for info.
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What is the unlock code?
every phone has a different unlock code, one code for one phone only, it cannot be transfered of anything like it. and of course those kinds of things aint free.
jomo25 said:
Yes, AT&T will give out free unlock codes. But to justify it, they are assuming you will need your phone unlocked because you are using it internationally. Of course, they expect that if you are in the US, you are using AT&T's network and thus have no reason to use it with any other US carrier SIM like TMobile.
So, since they make this assumption, they most likely added 1 or 2 items to your monthly bill:
1. AT&T World Connect
2. AT&T International Roaming
THe first lets you call anywhere in the world from the US for reduced (though still quite expensive) per minute rate. The rates are reduced (e.g. 2.29 to 1.99 per minute), but they charge you a monthly set fee (like $5 or so).
The second gives you special rates when roaming in other countries, while still using your AT&T SIM. Again, it just gives reduced per minute rates, that are still quite expensive. I think this one costs a monthly fee of about $9per month.
Also, they need to "provision" your phone to be able to access thenetwork outside of the US. THis does NOT cost anything, but it must be done or your AT&T SIM card phone will never get a signal outside of the US. This is a spearate step that they only give to people who ask for int'l access. Cuz if they just let everyone access int'l networks, some people might not realize the ridiculous per minute rates they charge and end up getting an extremely high monthly bill.
So, anyways, the point is: in AT&T's mind you will only use AT&T SIM for your phone in the US. And the only reaosn they let you unlock it is to use in internationally with a non-US carrier's SIM. So, since they assume that, they may have added some charges to your monthly bill. Its not 100% that they did add the charges and only added the provisioning, but you might want to check.
Go check your online account via att.com/wireless. Check your monthly services. If you see these items, and you do not need them because you arent' going to make calls on AT&T's SIM to or from outside the US, remove those items from our services and you will be credited pro-rated.
Oh, and as for theunlock code they gave you. Assuming you typed it in correctly and got your phone unlocked successfully, you can keep the code, BUT YOU WILL NEVER NEED IT AGAIN. It only needs to get typed in once. Even if you hard reset and flash your phone with a new ROM, you will not need to unlock it again. And it will NOT work for anyone else, so don't think that you can give it to 4 other people and it will work. The unlock codes are unique to the phone via IMEI number.
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ok I just checked my account and I don't see anything new/weird.
Thanks.
Hello guys, I just goot this device used from someone in the US. It is locked on GSM, but rooted.
At this I am most interested in getting it unlocked and explore further which is, learning bootstrapping, changing recovery and loading custom roms.
I spoke to Verizon extensively today and was told, they wouldn't be able to give me the unlock code unless it was activated on the network. After a long conversation, the global support team suggested that if I know someone in the US on the Verizon network, what could possibly be done is activating this phone on their current contract, right away share the unlock code and move the Verizon user to their previous phone. All on one call, with a feww minutes? Do Verizon users or with similar experience share their insight, if this would work out with getting an unlock code from them?
I don't really want to go through the idea of finding someone, going through the call and finding out, the person I spoke to was mistaken about all this possible on a single call..
Any other ways to unlock the phone? I don't like the idea of paying money to a website for the unlock code and possibly the code not working, with no refunds.
I've already spent on the phone with the risk of not ever being able to unlock it.
I know, there are threads with unlocking info, but a lot of users I realized were still unable to unlock their phones.
Looking forward to expert insights, and thanks a load everyone!
Cheers.
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To add, I am not physically in the US, neither is the phone. Phones GSM bands are apparently compatible with the GSM networks in my country.
Thanks!
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Unfortuanlty that is the only way to unlock an xt862. Unless it has never been activated on verizons network. As I understand it verizon changes the sim unlock code upon first activation. Even if that is the case you will still need a code from an unlock site(or possibly your nearest cell repair store)
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Endoroid said:
Unfortuanlty that is the only way to unlock an xt862. Unless it has never been activated on verizons network. As I understand it verizon changes the sim unlock code upon first activation. Even if that is the case you will still need a code from an unlock site(or possibly your nearest cell repair store)
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Ok. Unlock4Moto.com is where I am currently planning to purchase it from - they don't have specific verizon codes, but motorola xt862 in general.
Really really hoping, that verizon didn't change the lock code during its few months of activation.
Scared now of not having to use the device as only a PDA..
Thanks for the response.
Can others also pls share their experiences, thanks!
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rezapatel said:
Ok. Unlock4Moto.com is where I am currently planning to purchase it from - they don't have specific verizon codes, but motorola xt862 in general.
Really really hoping, that verizon didn't change the lock code during its few months of activation.
Scared now of not having to use the device as only a PDA..
Thanks for the response.
Can others also pls share their experiences, thanks!
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Ya if its been activated previously the code from unlock4moto will probably fail. In addition if you have too many fails the phone will go into susbsidy lock(or something similar) and will need a PUK(personal unlock code) from verizon to even be functional. You could try just calling verizon repeatedly and explain your perdicament to a new agent each time until you find one that will just give you the sim unlock code. I do believe that it needs to be connected to verizons network at the time though there are several threads of ppl who have had this same problem. Its pretty ****ty. I might recommend selling it and getting the xt860 model. Its easier to unlock and is also global GSM.
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Endoroid said:
Ya if its been activated previously the code from unlock4moto will probably fail. In addition if you have too many fails the phone will go into susbsidy lock(or something similar) and will need a PUK(personal unlock code) from verizon to even be functional. You could try just calling verizon repeatedly and explain your perdicament to a new agent each time until you find one that will just give you the sim unlock code. I do believe that it needs to be connected to verizons network at the time though there are several threads of ppl who have had this same problem. Its pretty ****ty. I might recommend selling it and getting the xt860 model. Its easier to unlock and is also global GSM.
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That really sounds crappy :-( I do although plan to buy one and see what happens. Just hoping, I am lucky. Else, I will trt and resort to finding someone from verizon to help me with the situation.
In regards to selling it, I purchased the phone in the us with a friends address almost a month back, and received it in hand just today. Really wouldn't want to sell it yet or thar I might not even find a buyer for a locked phone in my country.
Tough situation I am in, thanks though and wish me luck!
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You can bypass the Verizon setup by tapping the four corners of the setup window. At least this will make the phone useable.
That would make the phone usable as a PDA (wifi only), but I think he mentioned that wasn't his goal. Still good info to have while waiting for unlock though.
OP, the phone definitely needs to be activated on a Verizon account temporarily so it can communicate with their system for unlock code to work. Maybe you can place an ad on craigslist offering some money or something similar. People have nothing to lose by helping you if they don't have a global phone or if they never travel outside the US. If they've already done it before, I believe they have to wait ten months before they can unlock another phone on their line. Just fyi.
Good luck!
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That would make the phone usable as a PDA (wifi only), but I think he mentioned that wasn't his goal. Still good info to have while waiting for unlock though.
OP, the phone definitely needs to be activated on a Verizon account temporarily so it can communicate with their system for unlock code to work. Maybe you can place an ad on craigslist offering some money or something similar. People have nothing to lose by helping you if they don't have a global phone or if they never travel outside the US. If they've already done it before, I believe they have to wait ten months before they can unlock another phone on their line. Just fyi.
Good luck!
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Ahh here's another catch then. But I guess, someone who doesn't travel out might be willing.
Btw, just a quick question, so like the support person told me that I can get the phone activated on Verizon without the phone having to be physically in the US, can someone confirm that's possible?
Also, while at it, if someone on XDA is willing to help me with the situation, it would be awesome! I don't mind looking at the option of a monetary incentive for the assistance.
Thanks!
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True-ish
Having been through the SIM unlock route myself, here is what I found out. The Droid3 Sim unlock code modification is presented in the first Over The Air (OTA) update. And it doesn't effectively change the code. It adds a modified algorithm to the existing code which has to match up to the one they provide you with. Just like an md5 sum would be incorrect if anything is missing or altered. If the phone is or is returned to the original software that came on the phone (i.e. SBF / Fastboot / Flash) then this algorithm is not present in the firmware and thus the code you recieve from a third party vendor should work. I would surf around and find a trusted source with a strong reputation. When you find a company that states they can do it for you then ask them what their success rate is with the Droid 3 in particular.
As far as the subsidy lock......mine was just like the droid 2 global, when I tried too many attempts it subsidy locked on me ( I was trying different variations that I found in different areas of RadioComm to see if I could circumvent the system, finally gave up). I didn't touch it and let it sit on the subsidy lock request screen for about an hour and it asked me again for the sim unlock code. I finally got the right code through my inderect agent rep and voila. Hope this helps. I've been unlocking a rack of Droid2 and 3 for myself and friends lately, so if any of the information provided is cross-device (I sometimes get confused) then hopefully a guru will correct me. But this is to the best of my recollection.
If you haven't succeeded in about a week I'll be having my acct transferred from an employee line to a consumer acct and I can help you with swapping it to my service briefly and getting in touch with global support. Just pm me or send a message to my gmail - same username queberican351
take care and best of luck
~SU1C1D3~
Hey thanks for the info. All of it made lots of sense. So at this point i am hoping that the OTA update didnt happen on device in its lifetime with the first owner although I am almost sure its highly unlikely.
I am currently most inclined towards unlock4moto.com for the code, hoping it works out.
Regarding flashing the OS version to the factory default version, I will try learning how to flash the roms on this device since I think the way to flash roms on motorolas are pretty different to other phones.
And thanks, really really appreciate the offer of helping me out if I don't succeed in a week.
Thanks!
P.s. first message on xda using the droid 3 (in airplane mode), wonderful phone!
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Good news guys. The code from unlock4moto.com worked perfectly.
This makes me think that Verizon doesn't change the code on their network, because the phone was used for a couple months on their network prior to being detached from their network.
But there's another sad news too, which is, right after being unlocked I had to give it to my sister.. So I guess I will stick around to my Desire Z for another while.
Thanks everyone who helped me get my direction right and opted to help me, cheers!
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rezapatel said:
Good news guys. The code from unlock4moto.com worked perfectly.
This makes me think that Verizon doesn't change the code on their network, because the phone was used for a couple months on their network prior to being detached from their network.
But there's another sad news too, which is, right after being unlocked I had to give it to my sister.. So I guess I will stick around to my Desire Z for another while.
Thanks everyone who helped me get my direction right and opted to help me, cheers!
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I'm glad to hear that, so many others have had issues with this.
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Endoroid said:
I'm glad to hear that, so many others have had issues with this.
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Feel for them. I guess, was lucky :-D
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Hoping for some help here. I'm a true NOVICE who bought a locked AT&T Moto X online. There were problems unlocking it and all attempts to unlock it using a code were used (not exactly my fault but it's a long story lol)
I've done some reading and I'm wondering if using JCase's ROCKMYMOTO method to root the phone using Cydia Impactor will also unlock it from the AT&T carrier?
(fyi I tried to install 'MotoRoot' and 'PwnMyMoto' but both were rejected — I'm assuming because the person I bought it from updated the Camera patch that nullifies the two earlier roots).
Any help would be great.
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Hoping for some help here. I'm a true NOVICE who bought a locked AT&T Moto X online. There were problems unlocking it and all attempts to unlock it using a code were used (not exactly my fault but it's a long story lol)
I've done some reading and I'm wondering if using JCase's ROCKMYMOTO method to root the phone using Cydia Impactor will also unlock it from the AT&T carrier?
(fyi I tried to install 'MotoRoot' and 'PwnMyMoto' but both were rejected — I'm assuming because the person I bought it from updated the Camera patch that nullifies the two earlier roots).
Any help would be great.
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Bootloader unlock or sim unlock? Also, cydia? Isn't that an ios thing?
Pretty sure you are talking about the sim unlock which I know only gives a certain number to tries to get the proper code.
The only thing I can suggest is to plug the phone in so it has power and then let it sit at the code entry screen, with any luck after a number of hours it will again prompt for the code.
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Pretty sure you are talking about the sim unlock which I know only gives a certain number to tries to get the proper code.
The only thing I can suggest is to plug the phone in so it has power and then let it sit at the code entry screen, with any luck after a number of hours it will again prompt for the code.
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It doesn't bring up the SIM unlock screen anymore even when I insert new SIM cards. It reads my SIM as I can use theSIM toolkit and see my phone# but there is always the 'No Sim Error' icon at the top line of the phone.
okay well I guess there is no solution to it then... too bad I was hoping somebody would've had a suggestion or perhaps even an easy fix.
A heads up, if anyone here is with AT&T and wishes to stay with AT&T for the life of a Moto X I'll be putting a sharp Blue/White with Red accents MOTO X up on EBay pretty soon. It works great except it is apparently now impossible to unlock it to another carrier.
Cheers.
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okay well I guess there is no solution to it then... too bad I was hoping somebody would've had a suggestion or perhaps even an easy fix.
A heads up, if anyone here is with AT&T and wishes to stay with AT&T for the life of a Moto X I'll be putting a sharp Blue/White with Red accents MOTO X up on EBay pretty soon. It works great except it is apparently now impossible to unlock it to another carrier.
Cheers.
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Did you try speaking with AT&T customer care? Surely there has to be a solution to this
Have you tried any of the codes from other Motorola phones that may bring up the unlock screen? I thought most of them still allowed you to unlock but forced you to wait a long time if too many incorrect codes were entered.
One of the codes I found was #073887*
Or leaving the phone phone powered up and turning airplane mode on and off after waiting a long time to see if the unlock screen will come back.
Even if you do root the phone it won't unlock it, the only way is the proper 8 digit code. I have unlocked two of them without a problem but they were Rogers Canada phones which seem easy(and cheap) to get unlock codes for.
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Did you try speaking with AT&T customer care? Surely there has to be a solution to this
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I havent talked to AT&T as I bought the phone second-hand off of EBay. Plus I believe unlocking voids the warranty so I don't believe they assist me with it.
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Have you tried any of the codes from other Motorola phones that may bring up the unlock screen? I thought most of them still allowed you to unlock but forced you to wait a long time if too many incorrect codes were entered.
One of the codes I found was #073887*
Or leaving the phone phone powered up and turning airplane mode on and off after waiting a long time to see if the unlock screen will come back.
Even if you do root the phone it won't unlock it, the only way is the proper 8 digit code. I have unlocked two of them without a problem but they were Rogers Canada phones which seem easy(and cheap) to get unlock codes for.
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Thanks for some good suggestions I hadn't heard or thought of. So far no luck but I'm gonna keep trying.
I found a neat app on Google Play. It's for the Samsung Galaxy series call 'Galaxsim Unlock' and apparently once you download the app it'll do all the unlocking for you — ie. No entering the code yourself. That would seem to bypass my problem. I emailed the developer, 'Spocky', asking if there are plans to have an app like that for the Moto X and/or if he might know a solution to my problem. Fingers crossed!
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I havent talked to AT&T as I bought the phone second-hand off of EBay. Plus I believe unlocking voids the warranty so I don't believe they assist me with it.
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Sim unlocking doesn't void the warranty. They should help if you still have service with them. If not, then don't bother. They don't care if you already switched to another carrier.
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I havent talked to AT&T as I bought the phone second-hand off of EBay. Plus I believe unlocking voids the warranty so I don't believe they assist me with it.
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Lol... Sim unlocking doesn't void warranty. Who told you that? Its worth a shot giving AT&T a call since you don't have many options.
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aooga said:
Sim unlocking doesn't void the warranty. They should help if you still have service with them. If not, then don't bother. They don't care if you already switched to another carrier.
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It's not that I switched service from them, it's that I bought the phone second-hand from someone who had AT&T service. It's IMEI is clean though. I reside in Canada so I couldn't get AT&T service as they don't offer service here. I don't think they'll help although I'll probably try to contact them since I have nothing to lose.
I'm starting to suspect that if I was able to put an active AT&T nano SIM in it then I might be able to get the network unlock prompt back by using some of the #codes like ##debug# or #073887*. When I try those with my Bell Mobility SIM it says unable to access network. I think I'll try purchasing a $10 or $20 pay-as-you-go AT&T SIM online and see if it nets me any progress. I don't want to sink too much money into something that might not work but another $10 won't really hurt. Otherwise, I was considering a trip to NYC the weekend after Christmas so I might have another reason to go.
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I'm starting to suspect that if I was able to put an active AT&T nano SIM in it then I might be able to get the network unlock prompt back by using some of the #codes like ##debug# or #073887*. When I try those with my Bell Mobility SIM it says unable to access network. I think I'll try purchasing a $10 or $20 pay-as-you-go AT&T SIM online and see if it nets me any progress. I don't want to sink too much money into something that might not work but another $10 won't really hurt. Otherwise, I was considering a trip to NYC the weekend after Christmas so I might have another reason to go.
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With any luck it will work, who knows what rules Motorola has in place with respect to unlocking the phone.
You probably already know this but if you buy another just grab a Rogers or Fido phone, there is no problem getting the unlock code. The Rogers/Fido version also supports 2600 Mhz LTE which you should have access to. The AT&T phone has the hardware to support 2600 Mhz but the 4.2.2 version has it disabled. The 4.4 leak enabled it but I don't know if the official release left it enabled or disabled it. The Rogers/Fido also allows bootloader unlocking which is great if you want to flash leaks, root etc.
I've been able to pickup both of my Moto X's for great deals on craigslist locally.
Steve-x said:
With any luck it will work, who knows what rules Motorola has in place with respect to unlocking the phone.
You probably already know this but if you buy another just grab a Rogers or Fido phone, there is no problem getting the unlock code. The Rogers/Fido version also supports 2600 Mhz LTE which you should have access to. The AT&T phone has the hardware to support 2600 Mhz but the 4.2.2 version has it disabled. The 4.4 leak enabled it but I don't know if the official release left it enabled or disabled it. The Rogers/Fido also allows bootloader unlocking which is great if you want to flash leaks, root etc.
I've been able to pickup both of my Moto X's for great deals on craigslist locally.
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The only thing ROGERS doesn't have is Moto Maker ...and my 'business', I suppose. I dealt with Rogers for years and finally had enough of their lousy customer service. Honestly, Bell is now getting on my nerves too. I suspect I'll be a Telus client in the next couple years haha
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The only thing ROGERS doesn't have is Moto Maker ...and my 'business', I suppose. I dealt with Rogers for years and finally had enough of their lousy customer service. Honestly, Bell is now getting on my nerves too. I suspect I'll be a Telus client in the next couple years haha
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I hear you there, I've never been a Rogers customer in my life. I was with Telus for 21 years, same account/number. Just recently switched to Koodo because of a very special plan and Telus was not interested in offering anything remotely close to reasonable. Of course Koodo is Telus so I didn't really move much, the joke is on them, I get more service for less money.
FooloX said:
The only thing ROGERS doesn't have is Moto Maker ...and my 'business', I suppose. I dealt with Rogers for years and finally had enough of their lousy customer service. Honestly, Bell is now getting on my nerves too. I suspect I'll be a Telus client in the next couple years haha
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Did you sort your problem out?
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Did you sort your problem out?
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No I am still unable to get the 'Network Unlock Code' prompt when I insert the 'foreign' SIM into the Moto X. My last chance will be a trip to Buffalo next weekend where I can try inserting an active AT&T sim (who it's locked to) to confirm it'll still work on AT&T and whether that'll be enough to get the code prompt to come back when I put a Canadian SIM in afterward. Once I at least confirm that it still works on AT&T then I'll sell it to an AT&T customer if I can't get it to work in Canada.
I am having the same issue. Although I have an AT&T SIM and forgien SIMs all active and can't get the prompt to show up.
I purchased a unlock code, put in the foreign SIM, got the prompt. Then put in the code (1 time), it said "invalid code" and disappeared. I cannot get it to show up at all again. Would love it if the #07.... or any worked but so far none I have seen or tried do.
entropy1980 said:
I am having the same issue. Although I have an AT&T SIM and forgien SIMs all active and can't get the prompt to show up.
I purchased a unlock code, put in the foreign SIM, got the prompt. Then put in the code (1 time), it said "invalid code" and disappeared. I cannot get it to show up at all again. Would love it if the #07.... or any worked but so far none I have seen or tried do.
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Hi there, I received a brand new Moto X from Motorola this week. I contacted their customer service and after they verified the SMEI number to confirm the phone was not labelled as lost, stolen or from a delinquent account, they gave me an email that contained a promo code for me to use Moto Maker and customize to the version of my choosing. They also provided me a Fed Ex label to mail in my old Moto X that was not functioning properly : )
I recommend contacting Motorola directly. Thanks.
Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
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Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
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Yes the SPC is the MSL. They use it to input their carrier specific settings. Edit: Here is a link to getting the SPC/MSL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254578
There are methods to unlocking 4.3 in the forums here. I'll find a link in a min. Edit: Here is a link to unlocking a 4.3 based HTC ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48867255
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Yes the SPC is the MSL. They use it to input their carrier specific settings. Edit: Here is a link to getting the SPC/MSL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254578
There are methods to unlocking 4.3 in the forums here. I'll find a link in a min. Edit: Here is a link to unlocking a 4.3 based HTC ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48867255
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Thanks!!
But I'm still confused, are the links for sim unlock? It states it'll be using gsm/uxxx stuff.
My carrier will be using CDMA I believe so is sim sorta the same thing or?
I do not want to root now till I get the device activated though, but if root is required then so be it.
v1ral said:
Thanks!!
But I'm still confused, are the links for sim unlock? It states it'll be using gsm/uxxx stuff.
My carrier will be using CDMA I believe so is sim sorta the same thing or?
I do not want to root now till I get the device activated though, but if root is required then so be it.
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Well you dont need root to get the MSL. Yea that link was for SIM unlock. The person who is activating your phone shouldn't need that. I put it there just in case : P Cheers!
insuusvenerati said:
Well you dont need root to get the MSL. Yea that link was for SIM unlock. The person who is activating your phone shouldn't need that. I put it there just in case : P Cheers!
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In that case I wonder why hes saying about needing to downgrade cause the guide is for before 4.3 or something. I don't think hes doing it right IMO and I also think I can just do it myself.
The sim unlock link is a good read, it has steps to downgrading and all that which has got me wondering, if I do it, will I be able to use lte. I know this is an HTC one thread but this idea got me thinking, ATM there is only one phone on my carrier that does 4g lte which is the LG AS840 and I've checked the specs of it and the One and they match freqs for the lte side of things, what I'm saying is that will my carrier be able to make the lte function like with the LG AS840 device, if so then awesome if not oh well. What would make it NOT work with One, my carrier using phones from various stateside vendors, I wonder what they did to make the lte work on the LG AS840.
Anyways if the person has no luck then i will try and do it myself *save $50 in the process as well*.
Thanks again!!
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In that case I wonder why hes saying about needing to downgrade cause the guide is for before 4.3 or something. I don't think hes doing it right IMO and I also think I can just do it myself.
The sim unlock link is a good read, it has steps to downgrading and all that which has got me wondering, if I do it, will I be able to use lte. I know this is an HTC one thread but this idea got me thinking, ATM there is only one phone on my carrier that does 4g lte which is the LG AS840 and I've checked the specs of it and the One and they match freqs for the lte side of things, what I'm saying is that will my carrier be able to make the lte function like with the LG AS840 device, if so then awesome if not oh well. What would make it NOT work with One, my carrier using phones from various stateside vendors, I wonder what they did to make the lte work on the LG AS840.
Anyways if the person has no luck then i will try and do it myself *save $50 in the process as well*.
Thanks again!!
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If they are reprogramming your phone to work with another CDMA carrier then the SIM unlock will probably not help. Also you probably won't be able to do it yourself. I say probably because i've never seen it NOT done but I haven't seen anyone doing it either. It is a global phone so most people are sim unlocking to use it over seas. The thread I linked regarding SIM unlocking has an RUU that will bring you back down to 4.1 which is the initial software release when the phone first came out. That should be sufficient. Send him a direct link to that file and see if he can use it. It's just a simple program that does everything on it's own. Remember though the process will completely wipe your phone and internal sdcard.
v1ral said:
Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
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your SPC is the same as MSL, It is a security code used by carriers to enable some settings to be changed in the phone, your SPC/MSL is easily obtainable using software, I use CDMA workshop for stuff like that because it is very easy, there is other software that will read it for you but I think root is required, whoever the carrier of the phone is will also be able to provide it to you.
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If they are reprogramming your phone to work with another CDMA carrier then the SIM unlock will probably not help. Also you probably won't be able to do it yourself. I say probably because i've never seen it NOT done but I haven't seen anyone doing it either. It is a global phone so most people are sim unlocking to use it over seas. The thread I linked regarding SIM unlocking has an RUU that will bring you back down to 4.1 which is the initial software release when the phone first came out. That should be sufficient. Send him a direct link to that file and see if he can use it. It's just a simple program that does everything on it's own. Remember though the process will completely wipe your phone and internal sdcard.
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But does he HAVE to downgrade the device to obtain the no root, no calling sprint way to get the msl code? Cause what I'm seeing is that there is no need to downgrade or root to get the msl code*this is what i need to activate the device and possibly save $50* , money aside though if he does it great, but ive been waiting a bit since I received the phone.
Again thanks for your time.
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But does he HAVE to downgrade the device to obtain the no root, no calling sprint way to get the msl code? Cause what I'm seeing is that there is no need to downgrade or root to get the msl code*this is what i need to activate the device and possibly save $50* , money aside though if he does it great, but ive been waiting a bit since I received the phone.
Again thanks for your time.
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Yea you're right. He shouldn't need to downgrade to get the MSL. If all he needs is the MSL then no downgrade needed.
How about the use of 4g lte?
It baffles me that my carrier has it in the as840 device, will I be able to utilize it with the One or my mileage may vary?
So it turns out he was unable to downgrade, he says he tried every method he can. I don't think he has the right info on the table tbh, I will try tkmorrow when I have access to a PC. Makes me laugh a little inside, he's the GO TO guy for stuff, while I'm the GO TO guy at work for stuff like this*sorry for the ranting*.
Thanks again!!
Edit/update.
Through the msl thread someone posted a .apk file of msl utility.
Good news: the app installed and it DID show me the msl code.
Bad news*sorta*: I won't be able to check if the code works, if its even the right code. In other words I don't know the credibility of the app itself.
*crosses fingers* when I go to activate the phone.
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
finch69 said:
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
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First find out what your carriers settings are, like the APN settings. See if it's gsm cdma.. You can try going in the phones settings and checking them out open the dialing pad and *#*#4636#*#* and look around.
hi, thank you for your response, that menu was the first thing i tried lol, i put an o2 sim in and i got it to show the H symbol next to the signal bars which still had a cross on them, it also auto installed the apn settings other than that, no change
finch69 said:
hi, thank you for your response, that menu was the first thing i tried lol, i put an o2 sim in and i got it to show the H symbol next to the signal bars which still had a cross on them, it also auto installed the apn settings other than that, no change
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How did you sim unlock?
dip_spit said:
How did you sim unlock?
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I was wondering that same thing to.
dip_spit said:
How did you sim unlock?
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I guess he doesn't need us now lol.. You asked him to hard of a question haha.
MrMike2182 said:
I guess he doesn't need us now lol.. You asked him to hard of a question haha.
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Typical sh!t.
dip_spit said:
Typical sh!t.
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Yeah probably because he didn't have an answer to that question since he most likely lied lol.
oh did i mention this problem affects my net too, hence latr reply, i still do need your help, i sim unlocked for £6.99 from unlockingonline.com via code emailed to me, i foundf this site thru giff gaff site recommendation
finch69 said:
oh did i mention this problem affects my net too, hence latr reply, i still do need your help, i sim unlocked for £6.99 from unlockingonline.com via code emailed to me, i foundf this site thru giff gaff site recommendation
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You cannot unlock the SIM card with a code from anywhere online it doesn't work that way because number one the SIM card in these phones is only to allow the phone to get LTE internet speeds number two the MEID is how the phone gets service not just the SIM card cause you can remove the SIM card and the entire phone will still work just without LTE number three you can't insert another carriers SIM card and then have the phone ask you to enter the unlock code because the phone will never ask for that code when you put another SIM in there it will just say invalid SIM card and nothing else and number four, the phone is unlocked via uicc and has to be done on the carriers side not some unlocking websites code....
Wow I had no idea, what do I do from here then? Is Contacting o2 my only option?
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Wow I had no idea, what do I do from here then? Is Contacting o2 my only option?
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I thought you said you did it already?
I've not contacted o2 yet , I thought my unlock was legit
finch69 said:
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
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Well you said you sim unlocked it with success in this first post of yours right here and that's why both me and @dip_spit asked how you did that, you didn't say it wasn't legit then.
dip_spit said:
Typical sh!t.
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Do you think he successfully sim unlocked his phone bro?!
MrMike2182 said:
Do you think he successfully sim unlocked his phone bro?!
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No. Because many people have gotten the unlock codes and not a single person can find a way for the phone to ask for it. Of course he IS in Europe and their rules are different there so he may have, who knows.
Sorry it takes so long to reply I still have this problem I'm goin to email the site
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Sorry it takes so long to reply I still have this problem I'm goin to email the site
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And you are expecting the "site" to do what exactly?
Why don't you just take your phone to your carrier and have them program it to use their services?!?!
MrMike2182 said:
And you are expecting the "site" to do what exactly?
Why don't you just take your phone to your carrier and have them program it to use their services?!?!
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It could be a legitimate unlocking site that he used and expected it to work with his 510 (which they probably don't say that they don't support it), in which case he can probably convince them to refund his money.
Or it could be a scam site, in which case he'll have to do a charge-back or something to get his money back.
Also, he could take it to his current carrier but given the evidence of previous users, they won't unlock and program it for their network because the likelihood of them being able to is slim to none.
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It could be a legitimate unlocking site that he used and expected it to work with his 510 (which they probably don't say that they don't support it), in which case he can probably convince them to refund his money.
Or it could be a scam site, in which case he'll have to do a charge-back or something to get his money back.
Also, he could take it to his current carrier but given the evidence of previous users, they won't unlock and program it for their network because the likelihood of them being able to is slim to none.
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It seems like he's screwed then. I unfortunately don't know how or what settings to use to help him with the issue. He did say "should I contact o2?" So I asummed he could contact them I guess.