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Sony Xperia Z 4.2

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?

"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android

Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)

gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.

gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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That's not good enough from Sony. Unless they aren't trying to compete in 2013 and just wanna make a quick buck.
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Nimche said:
gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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Let's give sony a chance this time buddy. Even I did since they have a change in leadership(CEO) just now so things may change. :fingers-crossed:

Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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AntonyStark said:
Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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S4 isn't launched yet, n AFAIK , m7 has 4.1.2 too.
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AayushDhuria said:
S4 isn't launched yet
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Really?
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.

Ambroos said:
I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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That would be good too.
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Eddiemc said:
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'

CnC-ROCK said:
what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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Yes, no worries, I understood that. I also tried to say: I too think they should release it with 4.2
Also looking at their pre production phone, their software looks pretty bad, so I don't think it would matter with "buggy" 4.2 or the base they've been developing it on. Atm their base looks bad, so either they fix it in two months, or they rebase it om 4.2
The thing is that: this is their flagship phone, 4.2 has been out for a while, 2 months is still a long time, they have a lot of Sony devs, so I still don't see how releasing a flagship in 2013 with dated android is a wise choice.
This seems to be their standard though: dated android. They did this with the x10 or whatever it was called, and i won't be surprised if they do it again now. But hopefully the new management is improved and we'll se updates in timely matter. Also if they keep the community support up, it won't matter since it will have dev support

Nimche said:
gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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XDA named Sony "2012 OEM of the year" for a reason, and that means a lot to me.
They are changing, listening, officialy unlocking bootloaders, sticking to their update pathway, helping the devs community a lot, etc.

I believe the release of 4.1.2 is a marketing strategy.
Releasing 4.1.2 as initial firmware core and updating it to 4.2 then the next generation of android would make it look like they'll be providing subsequent updates. While if they release 4.2 as an initial firmware and update it to next android soon that would only look like they provided a single update which would invoke another rant from users like
"Sony promised 18months of support yet they only released 1 OS update!!!"
"Sony only released 1 update on their flagship phone they just release a device and loses interest on it after sales."
So yeah... if they make the initial OS 4.1.2 then that would make it 2 major updates while if they release 4.2 as initial OS that would only make 1 major update.
Like the logic says... Any number greater than 1 = many. :angel:

barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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As it says by the time S4 launched Xperia Z will have 4.2.

CnC-ROCK said:
http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
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The phone would have been in testing prior to 4.2's release... so early internal builds would have been based on 4.1.x anyway - so I can see why it's launching with 4.1. They would want to be on the ball with the 4.2 launch,,,, if it gets pushed back then people looking at buying this phone 3-6 months after launch are going to be wary about future updates.
M.

Eddiemc said:
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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Why strange? Show me an example of another device other than a Nexus launching with 4.2 in the same timeframe?
Show me an example of a device other than a Nexus or the Transformer tablets getting ICS prior to March or so of 2012? Show me an example of one that got an update prior to April/May or so that wasn't an *utter epic steaming turd*? All of the Transformer tablets first ICS updates were poor, Galaxy S II ICS was a steaming pile of **** for months... Hell, if you've got a carrier branded device it STILL is...

Not to mention 4.2 is one of the more buggy releases from Google, are there any devices apart from Nexus devices officially running 4.2 yet?

Xperia TX New FW 9.1.A.0.492 certified yesterday.

UPDATE:
New TX firmware
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=22200
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/02...bean-android-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
Hello everyone,
As planned, this week we’re starting the software rollout for our first batch of Xperia smartphones Xperia T and Xperia V*, with Xperia TX following next month.
The new software brings Android 4.1 “Jelly Bean”, along with a number of different and improved Sony features – the rollout will continue to ramp up over this month and next.
We’ve been working to blend our Sony Xperia software with Google’s Jelly Bean release to create optimum user experiences – some of the cool functionality you can look forward to includes:
Updated, more intuitive versions of Sony Media apps: WALKMAN, Album and Movies
A slick, easy-on-the-eye library that lets you view and access all your snaps, videos and tunes in one place – not to mention the signature Sony audio and imaging tech that makes your content stand (and shout) out!
Increased options for personalization
A revamped homescreen experience for handling widgets, apps and shortcuts… With up to 7 desktop panes, widgets that auto-resize and actionable notifications, you have complete flexibility to create the interface you want / need with a few simple touches!
Improved app organization and search
Application tray sorting is that bit breezier – just press and hold on any app – move, add it to your desktop or create a folder within the tray by dropping it on top of another!
We’ve also added a new search function within the application tray that makes it easy to locate your local apps.
Improved camera functionality
One for both the budding photographers and all-action snappers amongst us – we’ve added a more intuitive viewfinder with the addition of auto scene setting, and the option to switch between front and back camera with a single touch.
Google Now
Combining the power of Google search and user profiling, Google Now helps you accomplish daily tasks more efficiently.
It brings you just the right info at just the right time – cards appear throughout the day as prompts or reminders, and appear as a notifications when they’re flagged as important! Now there’s no excuse to miss that all important meeting…
As soon as the Jelly Bean software is available for your device, you’ll receive a notification in your phone. In most cases you’ll have the option to download and update over-the-air, but in some instances the software package may only be accessible via PC Companion or Bridge for Mac.
Please visit www.sonymobile.com/update for more information.
As usual we will continue to keep you up-to-date with our progress, responding to as much of your feedback along the way as possible.
*Availability and rollout timing will vary by market and customer variants
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Re: Xperia TX's Jelly Bean will come next month.
why late
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Re: Xperia TX's Jelly Bean will come next month.
Tapatalked from my TX

thebodom said:
why late
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Next month = march
Official release date of JB is Q1 for 2013
that means march is not late, but is actually on time.

Burst mode please, and all the features of Xperia Z on TX! Lol

That's enough.
I will sold it after Lunar New Year and buy V instead. No more ****, Sony, no more ****.

At least, we know it.
I'll stop watching it every hours.
But I don't understand why. It's certified.

Will still keep my TX but this is one of the main reasons I just went out and bought a Nexus 4!

By the time I get the JB update on my TX I will have my Xperia Z...booo

jonleyo said:
At least, we know it.
I'll stop watching it every hours.
But I don't understand why. It's certified.
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Certification does not gurentee release. Some FWs get certification and are never released

Damn, Xperia TX... is now probably my last Sony phone. way to stab your supporters in the back sony.

Re: Xperia TX's Jelly Bean will come next month.
Why not just ftf...I don't see the big deal?
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any custom roms?because the xperia T's update has been released so, it's more likely the same right?

iceman99393 said:
Why not just ftf...I don't see the big deal?
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Can't FTF an official firmware that doesn't exist.

There's like barely any difference between the T and the TX in the software, how does it take an extra MONTH to do something 99% similar?????
I swear...if this update does not fix the web browsing and walkman bug, I guess I will be forever using my walkman Z to listen music.

Yep. This is my last phone with sony. I was having high hope for JB update since Feb

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conkec said:
Yep. This is my last phone with sony. I was having high hope for JB update since Feb
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Where will u switch? It's just nexus or Xperia. I came from s3 and ics here is TX is much much better than buggy jelly bean and not really buttery smooth.
I rather wait instead of getting that half baked software from Samsung
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wednesday13 said:
Where will u switch? It's just nexus or Xperia. I came from s3 and ics here is TX is much much better than buggy jelly bean and not really buttery smooth.
I rather wait instead of getting that half baked software from Samsung
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I will switch to XPERIA V, no matter what.

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thienbrand said:
I will switch to XPERIA V, no matter what.
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Why not wait for Xperia Z?
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im waiting for the z at the end of the month too actually ill trade the tx in for it. wife will want it also she'll trade her tab 2 for it. I'd take the advice and wait for the Z I like the t tx v etc.. just for the camera.

it will be android4.3?

Screenshot_2013-09-28-21-16-45.jpg

KiritoAsuna said:
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No. In that picture you can see sources for Xperia SP chinese version, the 2.254 equivalent. 4.3 will be out in November (starting with flagships). Regards

If Sony is following its naming trend as it used to, then it probably is higher version of android for Xperia SP.
Our current version of Jelly Bean is 4.1.2 and it goes with 12.0.A....
12.0.B... means 4.2.2 or even 4.3, finger crossed
Edit : Yup, I just noticed a small "c" letter at the end. It is chinese version of our phone.
Anyway, I just hope sony would not take too long to give us 4.3 as they "may" skip 4.2.2 for Xperia SP.
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There is nothing very exciting with 4.3 except the user profiles be happy with sony's UI updates and perfomance updates

umangleekha said:
There is nothing very exciting with 4.3 except the user profiles be happy with sony's UI updates and perfomance updates
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I think those user profiles will be available only for tablets
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umangleekha said:
There is nothing very exciting with 4.3 except the user profiles be happy with sony's UI updates and perfomance updates
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Android 4.3 comes with Android API level 18, which includes Bluetooth Low Energy API, which is something exciting for a lot of people

also 4.3 app ops permission manager it awesome too

Bylos said:
Android 4.3 comes with Android API level 18, which includes Bluetooth Low Energy API, which is something exciting for a lot of people
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I'm more excited about lock screen widgets, opengles 3 and TRIM
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4.3
umangleekha said:
There is nothing very exciting with 4.3 except the user profiles be happy with sony's UI updates and perfomance updates
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Lets hope they Update the UI/Widgets and give us a performance improvement ...
regards

Especially the camera... It needs an improvement urgently.
Sorry for my bad English
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/Dunno if it has been posted here before

Can wait
I hope they will fix display color :x

Update 4.3 finally announced for December!!
A french telecommunication company (called Free) as announced the 4.3 for Xperia SP on December!
http://mobile.free.fr/assistance/313.html

Slainou said:
A french telecommunication company (called Free) as announced the 4.3 for Xperia SP on December!
http://mobile.free.fr/assistance/313.html
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Oh Cant wait for it. Curious what the changes will be

Slainou said:
A french telecommunication company (called Free) as announced the 4.3 for Xperia SP on December!
http://mobile.free.fr/assistance/313.html
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I thought I would come in November, now we have to wait. I'm hoping for CM 10.x, hopefully come this month also.

lvints said:
I thought I would come in November, now we have to wait. I'm hoping for CM 10.x, hopefully come this month also.
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Usually France never have the updates first.
So I think it can be possible that the 4.3 come, for example in India or Russia, before ... Hope it will be in November

[Q] Samsung Multiwindow?

With all due respect to the developers and sorry for my bad english... I love my Xperia Z and am very happy with it.Mi next purchase will be the Xperia Z1 but both are missing something very important in my opinion when compared to Samsung.Is there a way to port the Samsung Multiwindow? Is possible to develope an application that works as well as this? I know there are some applications in the Play Store but they are far from the functionality offered by Samsung.

Small apps?
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marcovirus said:
With all due respect to the developers and sorry for my bad english... I love my Xperia Z and am very happy with it.Mi next purchase will be the Xperia Z1 but both are missing something very important in my opinion when compared to Samsung.Is there a way to port the Samsung Multiwindow? Is possible to develope an application that works as well as this? I know there are some applications in the Play Store but they are far from the functionality offered by Samsung.
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its not possible as it requires touchwiz framework.
there is one called onskreen cornerstone, but the development seems to be dead. and no one ported it to AOSP.
edit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46423532#post46423532
anyway check this out.. AOSP rom with multi window feature (on the screenshot)

Thanks a lot.

Hey yeah im intrested in that im pretty sure you can take the files from firmware on my Samsung and push then to the firmwear folder in anyrom ( but maybe im thinking too too simple ( screw Samsung as its all being given out for free they can't stop us, )maybe its illegal to cheery pick for samsung offical stuff, right well im going to try this whrn my new laptop arrives, but ill need brave souls too test it, ( probably gonna be cm with samsung firmware cheery picked, tell me now if its futile,

Xposed Framework mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048668
This mod looks like the sony small apps, but than just regular apps. Not ideal, but comes close
You do need to install xposed framework first though.

Xmultiwindow is also an option these days. Still beta so don't expect it to work perfectly. For example you can only open two pages at once when you're not on your launcher bit already in an app.
C6603
4.3 .569
CWM
Doomkernel
Xposed

abelmaster said:
Xmultiwindow is also an option these days. Still beta so don't expect it to work perfectly. For example you can only open two pages at once when you're not on your launcher bit already in an app.
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I have been testing Xmultiwindow and it worked well, no major bugs.

Sony announces 4.4 KitKat update schedule. No XT, XV, XTX... for now :)

I think we still might get it
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
My phone is T. Xperia T.

romcio47 said:
I think we still might get it
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
My phone is T. Xperia T.
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We might???.... actually in my opinion there's no chance this time.
Let's hope in some new updates for 4.3 instead, because it's very very buggy... :crying:

istux said:
We might???.... actually in my opinion there's no chance this time.
Let's hope in some new updates for 4.3 instead, because it's very very buggy... :crying:
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How do you know? Sony has always updated their phones to the latest android version that their respective platform supports. If the MSM8960 is still supported in CAF we will surely see Kitkat sooner or later.

Remember that SP and ZR were not included in that list too. Sony should at least write another "news" with more accurate description what with us. What's our future...
On their site we still have "Testing" phase under KitKat 4.4 and ZU, Z1, Z1c has 4.4 as current version. So they did some changes on their site leaving ours intact, forcing us to wait.

Nevermind, I'll get the Z2 as soon as it appears here Btw 4.4 is still under investigation on the Xperia Support site and the above blog post is mostly about the roll out for newer phones.

We need to wait until at least 4.5 is announced from Google. XperiaT has always been a version behind.
Released with 4.0 despite 4.1 being out.
Updated to 4.1 whilst 4.2 was already out.
Currently rolling out 4.3 as 4.4 has been available from Google for months.
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How.xperia E1 got the damn.4.4!
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romcio47 said:
Remember that SP and ZR were not included in that list too. Sony should at least write another "news" with more accurate description what with us. What's our future...
On their site we still have "Testing" phase under KitKat 4.4 and ZU, Z1, Z1c has 4.4 as current version. So they did some changes on their site leaving ours intact, forcing us to wait.
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They are just waiting to announce EOL after the 18 months period
Think... Xperia Z in May, if Sony says so it'll be there in June then M2, T2 and so on most probably in July haha and T V SP in August?? No way sorry they will abandon it like the unloved brother Xperia S (╯3╰)

August? Hahaha maybe... And maybe sell my XV
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Not today, dear - I am haven a headache
May be it's a good idea having a seperate section: Wishes + Suspicions, Rumours + Humors

Good idea...
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i hope they will fix the bugs on 4.3 first then roll out to 4.4..

not again !!

I'd rather stay on 4.3.
4.4 without root is pretty much useless for me due to external memory usage restrictions (I really doubt the developers of Sygic and other navigation apps will bother to implement the new API in their apps).

I think that too
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Gasai Yuno said:
I'd rather stay on 4.3.
4.4 without root is pretty much useless for me due to external memory usage restrictions (I really doubt the developers of Sygic and other navigation apps will bother to implement the new API in their apps).
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Agreed, I have 4.4 on my ASUS TF101 but that is a custom ROM so this isn't an issue. 4.4 on a stock ROM makes my phone just as useful as a an iPhone. I hold all my media on a NAS drive and just FTP Music and TV shows over my wifi so no need for a PC to hook up and transfer over. This disappoints me as I now have two choices stay with 4.3 which I am extremely happy with or go down the custom ROM route for my XperiaT which I don't want to as I like and use the Sony customisation this is why I stick with Sony devices. For once I wouldn't be fussed that my device isn't on the latest firmware. Hopefully all the Sony 4.4 apps will be back ported to work on 4.3 ( I haven't looked yet as only just enjoying the 4.3 ones).