I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
There is no more need to use task killer to manage android systems any more. You will be doing more harm than good, in fact there is no good in killing tssks manually.
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Point noted.
But when I use Airdroid task manager, I see a process when the corresponding app is not running the background.
To mention a few; Cut the rope free, stocks & Hill climb racing.
Few system process like picasa uploader, chrome etc.
As you said andoird may optimize most of them, but I would like some control when running thin on battery.
mohan_168 said:
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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use greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en to hibernate any persisting apps/processes (except system). apps relaunch when you open them.
Killing apps and then having to reload them actually uses more battery than them being dormant in the background and already loaded when called upon. The problem is when you have misbehaving apps that stay in the foreground eating up cpu, instead of going dormant into the background. And this does happen. I use an app called Watchdog that alerts me when this happens. It allows you to kill the app when this happens. It also allows you to whitelist and blacklist apps and processes.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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mohan_168 said:
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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fast reboot(free), but the paid version i like better https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en
rayiskon, I will try greenify & let you know how that helps.
fernandezhjr, I agree restarting app is not an optimal way, but I require to squeeze battery to atleast make phone calls when I am away from charging options.
simms22, fast reboot looks promising. I'll try the free one for now and take it from there.
It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand killing process, shutting down cached process or apps & later restarting them is only going to fire up the CPU usage which completely defeats the purpose of conserving battery.
Though not a daily ask, at times I am stuck in situation where a phone call or SMS is all I need to keep me going.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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It would be nice to have, say, long press back key to kill the current app.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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You obviously didn't search for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
You DON'T need to intervene with N1 memory management, since you don't know how it works. You assume wrong. And most bad gossips are created by people wrongly assuming something, thinking they know something while they actually don't.
My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
Exactly, the nexus has no memory management issues. It is just your misunderstanding of how Android works. Leave your tasks alone.
If you have one or two particular apps that are bad citizens and should be shutting down in the background but don't... you can use "1Kill" from the market to create a home screen shortcut that kills that specific app when you press it.
Fring used to be a bad citizen - it would lock my wifi on even when I didn't want to be using it, and had no exit feature. So I'd always have to kill it after finishing up with it. Now it does have a proper exit, thankfully.
Jack_R1 said:
My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
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Ditto!
1 app running or 50 apps running they all still run the same.
I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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I think you have the memory management issues.
Before anyone gets tarred and feathered, that explains why many users on unrooted stock roms ha e frequent touchscreen lockups, hesitation and freezes. Guess theres a reason why the market has so many task killers. Maybe the devs should read this thread also lol. Instead of flaming, positive feedback is appreciated. I did search, but its a bit time consuming sifting through 5000 posts. Maybe you guys o rooted phones have no lockups, but google shows an azzload of people with similar issues.
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1) You've been given some answers in the thread, if you cared to look.
2) App that loses focus goes to background. That's the way OS is built. If you want apps to be killed on losing focus, get iOS 3 to run on your device. Seriously, what kind of answer would you expect, if you want to turn multitasking OS into non-multitasking?
3) The market has task killers because they can be written for multitasking OS, and because they help dealing with bad apps. Not for any other reason.
4) The OS loads some of your most used tasks when it runs, even if you don't know about it. Just loads in the memory, and allocates no CPU time. If you leave your phone unattended, your free memory goes down by itself. Why? Because free memory is wasted memory. You can check the "EMPTY" processes in Astro, for example.
5) The best task killer is careful selection of your apps. You see hangups? Find out the app that's doing it and remove it, or kill it specifically after running if it's necessary.
6) Task killers are a good source of lockups and freezes too, did you know? I guess you didn't read that thread...
All this meant to say: instead of looking for a way to cripple your OS, learn to select your apps, and don't solve issues that you don't have.
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I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Yeah, I think Apple needs to tweak their multi-tasking still. I've played with my gf's iPhone a bit this week, and it's a little annoying how now you have to explicitly quit every app. For example, with the Settings app if I go to change a preference quickly then return to home Settings app is still in the running apps list. I think little utilities like that should be able to quit themselves automatically.
I know the app isn't wasting memory or CPU down there, but I just don't see why you would want it cluttering up your app switcher forever.
Oh well, it's progress though. At least now you don't have to quit everything else you're doing to listen to Pandora
well android does the same thing. if you go into the settings menu, then hit home button, the settings is still running in the background. of course andoird will kill it later when it needs to.
I was looking at an article about memory management on android. They say that android runs better without any manger. Correction it runs better without a memory manager. Question for you people, what programs do you use and what are your thoughts?
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Most people use these app think it would enhance their performance.
I would certainly not object to such hypothesis.
However, I find that using these app would kill apps either too quickly or too late.
I do realize that there are advance options that would optimize such hassles. But after configuring these options, I found that it's easier to use my device without it.
So my final advise is not use it.
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I think this is true in most cases. However who wants a 3D game running in the background eating up resources?
I recommend using a Task Killer but only killing heavy tasks like games, etc. I used to kill all tasks (which doesn't hurt anything really) but doesn't seem to be 100% necessary.
I also recommend that if you use a task killer (and want to kill all tasks) and a home clock widget (like beautiful widgets) that you add it to the ignore list or the time will eventually become off.
my captivate slows down within 5 mins of heavy use without me killing all tasks periodically with taskiller. thats why apple uses fake multitasking...u cant slow the iphone 4 down with applications in the background even if you try, because essentially there not running.......just paused and resumed.
It seems that one that is a good one to consider is one that tweaks the settings that the native task killer to android uses.
Here is an interesting thread on it. Out of that thread 3 of them have developed. I originally was using Advanced Task Killer, but after reading this thread, I am now using AutoKiller, and think it is doing a good job. And the end result of what to kill is decided by the OS, not the task killer.
The name of it is misleading, ad it does not kill tasks. It just changes the settings that the OS uses to make that decision.
I use ATK. I have security set to high (doesn't show processes), I don't use auto kill, and I have established an ignore list. I find that my device is faster with the way I use the TK.
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Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks
try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.
auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz
tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
manosv said:
try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense
rocky23 said:
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
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webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
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What's your opinions on these? I use Android Assistant (18 Features) to clear out some apps that don't need to be running and "boost" my system.... But I was told all that does is cause instability, and battery life to depleted faster.
I also use it to monitor my battery life and what is using the battery and how much of it.
Android already does that itself (kills extraneous apps when you need more RAM and tells you what's using what amount of battery). If you're rooted you can delete anything that you don't want on your phone and task killers do indeed just use up even more battery than would be used otherwise since the apps that it's killing are just continually being restarted.
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Android already does that itself (kills extraneous apps when you need more RAM and tells you what's using what amount of battery). If you're rooted you can delete anything that you don't want on your phone and task killers do indeed just use up even more battery than would be used otherwise since the apps that it's killing are just continually being restarted.
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Fair enough. Yes, I am rooted.. Running Wajee's de-sensed ICS CRT-OFF (Whatever that means) and have deleted pretty much anything I don't... Or won't use. What app would you recommend to monitor battery, battery usage, ram usage, etc?
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Fair enough. Yes, I am rooted.. Running Wajee's de-sensed ICS CRT-OFF (Whatever that means) and have deleted pretty much anything I don't... Or won't use. What app would you recommend to monitor battery, battery usage, ram usage, etc?
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Do you really need something to monitor it more then stock does? Settings/Battery (or power) let's you know your current percen as well as some main apps eating your battery...and settings/apps-running displays the amount of ram being used out of the total on the bottom
What more then that do you need for monitoring? Anything extra is just eating more battery by running on the background and doing something the system already does...and if you want to kill am app you can go under settings/apps locate the app in any of the tabs tap it for more info and click force stop...built in task killer
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Do you really need something to monitor it more then stock does? Settings/Battery (or power) let's you know your current percen as well as some main apps eating your battery...and settings/apps-running displays the amount of ram being used out of the total on the bottom
What more then that do you need for monitoring? Anything extra is just eating more battery by running on the background and doing something the system already does...and if you want to kill am app you can go under settings/apps locate the app in any of the tabs tap it for more info and click force stop...built in task killer
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Sorry, I forgot that Android has that built-in. What about apps to clean Cache / etc? I use SD Maid Pro currently. Seems to be the best.
And another thing.. How can I kill certain apps from opening on start up? Like... For instance, Dolphin browser, PowerAMP, etc.
Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.
soilentgreen said:
Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.
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Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.
A 'Sleeping App' is useful for conserving battery. Apps like Email or Facebook are always awake and connected to the internet checking for new messages, notifications, comments, etc. and this consumes more battery. The downside to putting an app to sleep however, is that it won't show notifications and alert you of new messages, comments, likes, etc. until you manually open the app itself and all notifications will come flooding in at once.
An App kept in RAM simply allows it to be opened and resumed from the last point it was used. This saves a little CPU and Battery but not much difference in our modern and high powered devices.
If you have maximum amount of Apps in RAM, than the phone automatically closes the oldest opened app to make room for the new one. So this option is simply a personal preference without much impact on CPU and Battery.
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Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.
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Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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Yes, but sleep also involves restricting background processes which could otherwise be running and draining battery. That's a different consideration compared to whether an app is stored in ram or not, which is why I said they are not quite the same thing.
Well I close apps cause some apps draw a lot more power then others. I installed a audio recorder on my pixel o wanted to record audio at a concert. It drained the battery on my phone which had a full charge before I had a chance to use it so less apps the better. I guess it's all the matter what app are runnonf
Thank you all for the answers
What about greenify? What the difference between hibernation mode and sleep mode?
If app greenify it should add to "Unmonitored apps" in Device maintenance?
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