It says on the Sprint website that LA was a "4g city", but I live about 15 mins outside of LA and I only get LTE in one very exact spot, which is near/around the methadone clinic that I go to every morning. Outside of that one spot, I've only gotten LTE to show up maybe once or twice.
I also checked their website, and there is no orange in or around LA (Orange denotes LTE coverage)
I'm really confused here, are they starting to put LTE in or have they already done it and something is wrong with me?
Sprint's website also says that Downey, CA is an LTE city, but live right next door to Downey, and I frequent it a lot, and I've never seen LTE there.
Spotty in the SGV the where I live. Check out the Sensorly app it will tell you
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There's an LTE thread already for that talk...
Also check out s4gru.com for better updates than sprint...
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I'm in NYC... which T-Mobile says has the 1900mhz (for the push to get ppl to move their iphones to T-Mobile.)
Sadly, i'm still putt'n around on edge. No luck in dumbo/Brooklyn heights or mid-town.
Anyone having any luck? Maybe I have to change the APN or something (it is already set to epc)
" The carrier notes that 1900MHz HSPA+ is now also available in Seattle, Las Vegas, and the New York metro area"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307571/tmobile-apple-iphone-unlocked-support
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Zurvv said:
I'm in NYC... which T-Mobile says has the 1900mhz (for the push to get ppl to move their iphones to T-Mobile.)
Sadly, i'm still putt'n around on edge. No luck in dumbo/Brooklyn heights or mid-town.
Anyone having any luck? Maybe I have to change the APN or something (it is already set to epc)
" The carrier notes that 1900MHz HSPA+ is now also available in Seattle, Las Vegas, and the New York metro area"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307571/tmobile-apple-iphone-unlocked-support
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I'm heading to Seattle in 10 days so I'll report back
I live in el Paso and waiting to get the 1900mhz my focus s is still on edge but I hope we get the 1900mhz by the time the lumia 920 goes on sale so I could hopefully use it with t-mobile. For coverage check here: http://www.airportal.de/
YEAH saw that little 3g+ icon in mill creek today (WA)
I got it in Manhattan last weekend (for a short time) around 57th and 10ave.. got the 4g.. and fired up a speed test. got 7 down and 1 up. I could live with that (or anything better than the yarn and tin cans that is edge speed). So far that is the only place I've seen in Manhattan or downtown Brooklyn.
I live in phoenix Arizona and I occasionally get '4G' sign on my focus S. Never seen 3G sign though. Either 4G or Edge.
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I live in phoenix Arizona and I occasionally get '4G' sign on my focus S. Never seen 3G sign though. Either 4G or Edge.
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the 4G sign is just a different name for what others have as 3G+ or H
we don't have 4G at all, its just a marketing **** up, so you shouldn't see 3G unless you cant get an HSPA signal
I live in LA, where LTE service was introduced a little less than a month ago. Just switched over to Sprint from Verizon, and right now, Sprint's 4G coverage is spotty enough to make me reconsider my decision.
A question, for folks in areas that have had LTE for a while longer, is this the kind of situation where there's likely to be real improvement early on as some initial kinks get worked out, or is it pretty much already as good as it's going to get when sprint rolls it out?
Even though sprint officially announces Lte coverage doesn't mean it's 100% compete! They are constently adding towers.
I live in LA and get lte in my city but next door cities don't have it yet! I believe L.A is only 50% covered right now.
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Same here. I am greatly disappointed with the Sprint service. I always have 3g, but EVDO is pathetically slow... I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Verizon... I wish I would have gone with AT&T. :/
You might want to check out this thread: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1413-network-visionlte-la-metro-market/
There's also a separate thread for OC.
Sprints wimax coverage was actually decent in LA. I live and work in La Verne at the eastern edge of LA County. There is like two LTE towers out here. I'm pretty sure it will get as good if not better than their wimax coverage, if you can wait another year you should
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Sprints wimax coverage was actually decent in LA. I live and work in La Verne at the eastern edge of LA County. There is like two LTE towers out here. I'm pretty sure it will get as good if not better than their wimax coverage, if you can wait another year you should
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Another thing to consider too is that at some point Sprint is also going to deploy LTE on the 800MHz band, which has a longer reach and penetrates buildings better than 1900 (current LTE deployment) or 2600MHz (WiMax and future LTE). That could also have a significant positive impact on reception. They are supposed to begin do that sometime towards the end of the year. However, none of Sprint's current phones support that LTE band unfortunately.
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Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5zZW5zb3JseS52aWV3ZXIiXQ..
It will help with your decision about service in your area. Where I live EVDO isn't bad so when I'm in an area without LTE there isn't much of an issue. As far as LTE just starting in your area, yes it continues to get better. Verizon's LTE was the most spotty junk you've ever seen when they first started. It takes a while to fill in all the gaps in coverage and I have noticed my phone's 4G icon coming on in more places. The plans for Sprint Network Vision exceed all the other major carriers' LTE networks and will be easily upgraded to LTE Advanced. The problem is it's still in it's early stages. Verizon got a huge jump on LTE while Sprint was messing with WiMAX so it's likely that Verizon will have the LTE advantage for now in most areas.
Yeah, towards the beginning of roll out, signal is.horrible. But don't lose hope. It can, and does, only get better from here :thumbup:
[I'm cross-posting this in the TMO HTC One forum as well]
My situation:
1. I've been with Sprint since the OG Evo, but after getting the One, I was really frustrated with the slow LTE speeds especially after years of Network Vision promises and paying an extra $10 a month (per phone) for "high speed data" that was anything but. I was also irked at all the crap I had to go through to get the SIM unlocked.
2. The area I live in has refarmed HSPA+ to the 1900Mhz band.
3. The area I live in has AWS LTE.
4. I currently have a Sprint, T-Mobile, and Developer Edition One.
My original plan was to use the DE to test the TMO network to see if it was faster than Sprint and available in all the places I frequent. If so, then I'd sell my (now SIM unlocked) Sprint model and keep the DE, otherwise, I'd return the DE for a refund.
But over the last week and a half I've noticed that, while LTE speeds were frequently pretty high (15-20Mbps) there were still plenty of times when I was only seeing an H or an E. I couldn't even tell if the H was HSPA or HSPA+. So then I began to wonder if I was missing out because of the lack of the 1700Mhz band, thus I bought the TMO version to see if I was missing anything.
Turns out, I wasn't. The H I've been seeing is indeed HSPA+ but nowhere near the advertised 42Mbps. Granted, I wasn't naive enough to think I would pull 42Mbps even with the TMO version, but I expected to get at least in the 20-30Mbps range, instead I've been seeing 5-9Mbps. (Thanks to the Sensorly app, I can now tell which H I'm seeing).
After running around with TMO version, I'm seeing the exact same speeds in the same places. So, I'm not missing anything by not having 1700Mhz. In the meantime, TMO is still refarming more areas so the 1700Mhz is becoming less and less important.
So what about Sprint? At their lowest, the TMO speeds are equal to or a little above the Sprint speeds I've been seeing (my wife inherited the Sprint version during this trial run), and at their highest, Sprint can't touch them (in this area--I've gotten up to 20Mbps in PA).
So T-Mobile it is. When the wife's contract is up at the end of the month, the Sprint model is going up on Swappa. Meanwhile, the TMO version is going back to the store tomorrow.
What about AT&T you ask? Way faster, but way more expensive. Truth is, I spend most of my time on wifi anyway, so I'm not willing to pay AT&T prices for cable internet speeds for the times in between.
Hope this helps anyone else facing the same dilemma.
Really interesting
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With your unlocked Sprint One, what happens if you put your T-Mobile SIM in it? Do you get service? If so, is it HSPA or just EDGE?
Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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T-Mobile sucks in my area... My sprint speeds are in my sig.
Just wanted to bring this to your awareness, Verizon's started to broadcast their AWS or Band 4 LTE network for testing purposes. If your Nexus 4 has old radio, put it in LTE Only mode, and manually search for networks.
If it shows up as 311480, please report here.
So far San Diego is live, although the user used another T-Mobile Band 4 capable LTE device to scan.
Cool but useless. There's no CDMA fall back for calling and text. So you'd have internet access and that's it. Stupid Verizon and their CDMA crap.
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Cool but useless. There's no CDMA fall back for calling and text. So you'd have internet access and that's it. Stupid Verizon and their CDMA crap.
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If Verizon's 2x20Mhz internet access capable of 100+Mbps is useless to you then be it...
But what's the point. I suppose you could use all the workarounds to do VoIP but normal calling and texting is a no go since there's no CDMA fall back. My point is Verizon is only half in. Not to mention that Verizon has very little band 4 holdings at all. but hey like I said it's cool that it works.
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This actually came up when I was searching through LTE in Chicago. I didn't know what that number was or meant
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If Verizon's 2x20Mhz internet access capable of 100+Mbps is useless to you then be it...
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Cool story and sounds great but a single line with a gig of data is hundred bucks sign me up
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But what's the point. I suppose you could use all the workarounds to do VoIP but normal calling and texting is a no go since there's no CDMA fall back. My point is Verizon is only half in. Not to mention that Verizon has very little band 4 holdings at all. but hey like I said it's cool that it works.
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Verizon has nearly nationwide Band 4 spectrum holdings. Completely unused, just sitting there.
Way more than AT&T for example who's divested most of their licenses to T-Mobile as a breakup fee.
And also way more free, unused AWS (Band 4) than T-Mobile which has to keep and maintain 20Mhz chunks for their existing HSPA+42 network for at least 1-2years.
That said, east of Mississippi Verizon is deploying 2x20Mhz LTE that can push 150Mbps on Cat 4 equipment. Just saying...
West of Mississippi they're mostly 2x15Mbps capable of over 100Mbps, with some markets with 2x10Mhz.
To put that in the perspective for you, their current nationwide Band 13 LTE is 2x10Mhz which is currently twice the capacity of T-Mobile's live LTE in most of their markets (2x5Mhz).
The point is, you can have your existing device besides being a smartphone also acting as a Verizon MiFi, if you ever wish to get access to Verizon's new stupid fast network with no one on it...
Has anyone popped a LTE Verizon Sim in and tired to connect?
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Has anyone popped a LTE Verizon Sim in and tired to connect?
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I have a verizon gs4 as my dd. my nexus 4 is shipping, should be here friday. will test it when it gets here :laugh: :good:
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I have a verizon gs4 as my dd. my nexus 4 is shipping, should be here friday. will test it when it gets here :laugh: :good:
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What's the point? You'll only get data
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What's the point? You'll only get data
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Why not?
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What's the point? You'll only get data
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hey, it's better than nothing. And testing things like that are fun, don't you think?
It's been widely reported that once they were done with their nationwide rollout of LTE later this year that they would then start using their band 4 aws holdings to fill in the holes and to augment their existing LTE service during peak loads.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ice-to-operate-on-the-carriers-aws-lte-bands/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
This is really awesome for people like me that only have Verizon's LTE in my area. If this could actually work, I'd switch to it, at least for a month; just to mess around with, and to blow people's minds when I tell them I have a GSM phone on Verizon's network (I know, not that impressive to the average XDA user, but to the ignorant masses, doing something like that is crazy).
The voice is no issue for me as I've used a tablet plan the past 2 months with a VoIP alternative.
The only problem is that Verizon only has pay-as-you-go 3G plans, you'd have to sign up for a regular LTE plan with a 2 year agreement and they are expensive. This might be an option for someone who's already a Verizon customer to try but not practical for most people.
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The only problem is that Verizon only has pay-as-you-go 3G plans, you'd have to sign up for a regular LTE plan with a 2 year agreement and they are expensive. This might be an option for someone who's already a Verizon customer to try but not practical for most people.
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Oh, well that's unfortunate. I guess I didn't even think about that. I suppose AT&T just enabled 4G on their prepaid network like last month. Dang it!
Oh well, I'm still gunna search for 4G in my area (flashing an old radio right now). If I find it, I'll see if my friend will let me try to pop his SIM into my phone and see if it could work in theory.
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Oh, well that's unfortunate. I guess I didn't even think about that. I suppose AT&T just enabled 4G on their prepaid network like last month. Dang it!
Oh well, I'm still gunna search for 4G in my area (flashing an old radio right now). If I find it, I'll see if my friend will let me try to pop his SIM into my phone and see if it could work in theory.
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AT&T always had the HSPA+ 4G on pre-paid and just added LTE. You still have to have an LTE plan and live in an area with AWS, Chicago will be mostly AWS as AT&T didn't have a lot of 700 MHz licenses in that area but that's one of the few places that you will find it.
You can still scan for Verizon's LTE on your Nexus even if you don't have their SIM. At least you'll know if your area has that option available. They're still in the very early stage of deployment, San Diego report is literally the very first report of Verizon's Band 4 network broadcasting.
They won't be deploying on Band 4 nationwide from the get go, it's gonna be metro areas with heavy traffic first, then building inside-out.
It will be data only since Nexus 4 doesn't have CDMA radios, but as I said earlier, it's beneficial to have this option if you ever need another carrier for data hotspot.
Oh, and if you have Verizon's LTE iPad for instance, that's a prepaid service, you can totally use that SIM on any other LTE capable device.
Welp, I don't have any Band IV in my area so that came a quick halt.
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AT&T always had the HSPA+ 4G on pre-paid and just added LTE. You still have to have an LTE plan and live in an area with AWS, Chicago will be mostly AWS as AT&T didn't have a lot of 700 MHz licenses in that area but that's one of the few places that you will find it.
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Yeah, I meant LTE when I said 4G, since HSPA+ isn't really 4G (actually, LTE doesn't even meet the 4G standard as set by the 3GPP, but that's a whole other discussion)
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Oh, and if you have Verizon's LTE iPad for instance, that's a prepaid service, you can totally use that SIM on any other LTE capable device.
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Do they offer LTE on any prepaid tablet plan? I keep trying to look around and can't find a definite yes or no; usually if they don't stick '4G LTE!!!!!!' at least 100 places on the page, they don't offer it. I can't find anything.
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Welp, I don't have any Band IV in my area so that came a quick halt.
Yeah, I meant LTE when I said 4G, since HSPA+ isn't really 4G (actually, LTE doesn't even meet the 4G standard as set by the 3GPP, but that's a whole other discussion)
Do they offer LTE on any prepaid tablet plan? I keep trying to look around and can't find a definite yes or no; usually if they don't stick '4G LTE!!!!!!' at least 100 places on the page, they don't offer it. I can't find anything.
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Yeah for the iPad 4 they offer month to month plans (I think, but it might only be hsdpa) and I believe they are LTE, but its like 30$ for 4gb shared
http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/consumer/explore/tablets.html
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I steered away from this for a while after someone told me that AT&T doesn't use band 4 LTE. But I'm hearing isolated reports of people with LTE on straight talk getting 8 to 10 Mbps. I'm all stock right now and just got a new ST sim that works with "tfdata". Anyone care to share how they got it working?
http://goo.gl/fXJHjU
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You said you're all stock now. For LTE to work, you need to flash an LTE-capable radio. There are lots of threads that can help you with that, but here's one to start with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358931 [NOTE: I'm not sure all parts of that guide work with KitKat, so ask someone to make sure.]
Also, are you sure you're in one of the areas where AT&T has band 4 LTE? The easiest way to check is to go here: http://reboot.fcc.gov/spectrumdashboard/searchMap.seam
Click on your state, then filter by name (AT&T) and by license category (AWS-1). If your area doesn't show up there, you're out of luck. If it does, there's a chance, but no guarantee, that you can get LTE service.
I'm on Net10, which is functionally identical to Straight Talk for this kind of thing, and mine instantly worked once I activated a SIM card after LTE service went live. I got speeds as high as 18mbps down, but ping times were around 150 ms, not any better than HSPA. Also, I had issues where the radio would fail to switch back to HSPA sometimes after I left an LTE area, and I would have to go into the phone settings menu to disable LTE data to get it working again. Because of those issues, I haven't had LTE enabled lately, but I'll probably go back because there are areas I go where the HSPA network is too congested to get a usable connection.
Okay Thanx. I just confirmed AT&T doesn't have AWS (frq 1730 - 2135) in my area. However, MetroPCS, Verizon and T-Mobile did. How would you go about going with MetroPCS or Verizon?? I thought they were CDMA carriers.
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