[Q] Dual Users possible? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just picked up a nook HD + yesterday from the father's day sale (can't pass up that price). The stock rom is sluggish and sucky.
EXCEPT, the one thing i really like about it is that every time you turn on the device it gives you the option on which account you want to use. With that I can make an account for my 5 year old, with no password, and determine what he can get to within his account. Just his books, and games.
I want to root and checking out cyanogen, but i don't want to be without that capability so he can use it easily. Do you guys know if that's possible with cyanogenmod? I'm running Paranoid Android on my Nexus, which runs off of cyanogen, and i saw that you can make another user but didn't see a quick and easy way to switch between the two.
Does Cyanogenmod out perform the stock on this device?
Thanks
J

It's very easy to setup another user for the tablet with CM 10.1. I picked up a Nook HD+ a couple days ago, my first Android device. Got CM 10.1 running yesterday and setup an account for my wife to use.
Cm 10.1 is sooooo much better than the stock ROM. Very happy with it so far!

PenduncleSwazzle said:
It's very easy to setup another user for the tablet with CM 10.1. I picked up a Nook HD+ a couple days ago, my first Android device. Got CM 10.1 running yesterday and setup an account for my wife to use.
Cm 10.1 is sooooo much better than the stock ROM. Very happy with it so far!
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once you set up different users though, how easy is it to switch back and forth? do you choose who you are at each lock screen like the stock rom? Have you seen anything so you can lock down a user's account to only let them do certain things?
thanks for the reply

Each user maintains their own applications, so anything installed on your account will not show up on another. This will create some redundancy if you have 5 accounts all with every version of angry birds and whatnot, but pretty much unavoidable. Just put a lock on your own account.
From the lockscreen you can choose which account you want to go into. In the upper right corner where you have access to quick settings there's an icon for your user account that you can touch that will bring you to the lockscreen to choose another account if you wish. It's super easy to switch between accounts. The only thing I haven't tested is performance when one user's used a bunch of apps, then you switch over to another account and start opening a bunch of applications. I'm new to Android and not sure how it handles memory for multiple users.
Multiple users is super easy to manage and one of the big reasons why i wanted an android tablet over an iPad. Just load up Cynogenmod already!

AWESOME, thanks for the response! I'll get on that... once i pry that damn thing away from my wife and kid.
This will be the best father's day present every, it keeps others occupied so i can get my own stuff done without interruptions!

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[Q] 2 Brand New NC and one won't autonooter

I had 2 Nook Colors I bought Friday. Today I have successfully set up one with 1.1.0 and autonooter'd using 3.0. Followed instructions and everything works as assumed.
On the second nook (wife's), I can load Autonooter, but when I get to the YouTube part, it has a network issue. I then try and go to GMail and it says the account is not set up to sync, but where it wants me to set this up is not a settings option in Nook Color Tools or anywhere I know.
I've had to reset this device twice back to factory settings. Can someone give me an idea on what I can try to do this differently?
I tried a third time by setting up the Google Account at the account setup screen during setup, but still have the problem. Seems that there is some GSM settings popping up on this device.
Wife is not happy that my NC can be rooted and her's cannot. I'm to the point of returning hers and getting a new one.
So, her device works fine as-is before trying to root it? Wireless is fine, connections are okay, browser works, etc?
I'd say double-check that you're actually on 1.1.0 if you're using the noot for 1.1.0, or maybe wait for the real Auto Nooter to see if that works better.. Should be out in a day or two hopefully.
Yeah, her device works fine stock. I have flashed it back to stock 1.0, stock 1.0.1, etc. each time doing a sideload update to 1.1.0. I then used the Autonooter for 1.1.0 and I keep getting some issue with setting up her gmail account on the phone.
If I try and set it up during the Android Setup, it loops and simply makes me set it up again. Otherwise, if I skip...I get asked to set up gmail account when trying the YouTube My Channel portion of the setup. I get the network error there.
What I have noticed is that when setting up the account on the Android Start-up section, it gives me a notification of sync/connections, but the account does not setup to sync. This is the problem - I can't find where to make the account sync or complete setup with the Autonooter I guess.
Like I said, my Nook works fine and was the first one I did. I followed the same procedures on her's and it is the same issue each time.
Disclaimer: She doesn't use the Gmail account much, but I logged into on PC. Not sure if that is a factor.
Thanks for your feedback!
lxadoz104 said:
Wife is not happy that my NC can be rooted and her's cannot. I'm to the point of returning hers and getting a new one.
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Best advice I can give (though it seems one device may have something goin on for sure) is that you earn some brownie points and give her yours and get yourself a new one! Amazing the future favors returned by an action like this, hehe.
Great idea. Where can I adjust the account settings for her account in place of mine? (Google account)...Thanks.
lxadoz104 said:
Great idea. Where can I adjust the account settings for her account in place of mine? (Google account)...Thanks.
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Both my wife and I use same account for the Market (really don't like paying twice for apps...we do the same for purchased books from kindle / B&N)...you can add / remove google mail accounts from inside google mail settings. Just click ADD ACCOUNT, and disable yours (or at least disable sync).
**Disclaimer** Sharing apps across multiple devices in the same household is smart, and not a slight to developers at all. We purchase apps and books, and both use them...that's called economical
Oh also.be sure to check out these cases for your new toys! We both have them, and they're perfect!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934081
Have you tried just doing it from 1.0.1? Is there a specific reason you want to be on 1.1.0?
lxadoz104 said:
.I get asked to set up gmail account when trying the YouTube My Channel portion of the setup. I get the network error there.
Disclaimer: She doesn't use the Gmail account much, but I logged into on PC. Not sure if that is a factor.
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Is her G-Mail account linked to YouTube? This is a pre-requisite. Good Luck!
The easy (but time consuming) fix for this is to downgrade to 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 (make sure the downgrade was successful via settings-device info-about or whatever it is.) Then use one of the older auto-nooters to noot that version. From here, if you still would like to have a rooted 1.1 ROM, install rom manager from the Market and use it to flash the 1.1 pre-rooted ROM from the dev section. This would be the best way in my opinion.

A few questions about NOOKcolor with Froyo and/or Honeycomb

Okay, I picked up a NOOKcolor last week as my entry into both tablets and Android. I was thinking about waiting for the iPad2 but decided that a 1024x600, 7" Android tablet for 1/2-1/3 the price of an iPad was WAY too hard to pass up, especially given that I don't know yet how much I'll actually use a tablet (I think I'll end up using it a ton after a week of ownership, though!).
The first thing I did was upgrade to B&N 1.1 and then root that, and that went very smoothly. I played with that a bit and then decided to try our Nookie Froyo, and that also went relatively well. On the positive side Froyo gave me access to my corporate calendar, cut/copy/paste, and newer versions of the major apps, but on the negative side wifi seemed pretty flaky (mostly related to sleep/resume) and I couldn't figure out how to use the NOOKcolor's richer reader app with magazine, newspaper, and childrens' book support. As a result I ended up going back to the rooted stock version. However, I hate that I've lost corporate calendar access, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to set up a proxy server for when I'm on my corporate wifi.
After a week of playing with this thing, I have three major questions. If these are already clearly answered elsewhere please just say so (ideally with a pointer to the existing answer).
1) I'd like to have both the NOOKcolor reader (vs. the NOOK app on the market) and things that are offered by Froyo (and higher), e.g., corporate calendar. Is that possible? Can I add the Froyo versions of the mail/calendar/contacts apps to 2.1, or conversely can I add the B&N reader to Froyo/Honeycomb?
2) It's just amazing to me that Android doesn't support proxy configuration as a first-class option! Is this something that's been added in Honeycomb? If not, does the custom kernel in Nookie Froyo/Honeycomb support iptables so that I could use one of the proxy configuration tools out there? If so, can someone recommend a tool that's worked for them?
3) How much of a difference does overclocking make in day-to-day use. I'm not talking about benchmark test numbers or a slightly smoother framerate in Angry Birds. I'm talking about using the normal apps like the browser, email clients, and just navigating around in launchers and such. Is it a big enough difference (and a safe enough change) that it's worth doing, or is it more about bragging rights?
Thanks much for all the amazing work folks have done for this device!

Multiple users - woohoo! :)

Just so other Xoom users know, I tested (and then bought) "SwitchMe" yesterday - for £1.25 UKP.
It works.
Install, and your current "image" is your base profile - you can add a new (blank) one or clone the existing one. I've now got profiles for my wife & myself, and they work.
FYI, my tablet is encrypted, it still works. The only downside is once you setup a new profile and switch to it, you have to fully reboot (enter decrypt pin), then wait a bit. Once that's done, fast switching works - and the tablet 'reboots' to the boot anim, and about 30 secs (or so) you are running as your chosen user.
This is what I wanted - my wife and I able to use our own FB accounts & GMail with the native apps, not web browser. We have the same screen lock pin so we can unlock the tablet if it's asleep, then hit "SwitchMe" from the notification area and change user. Each profile can be password protected too.
Go have a look, well worth it (if you're rooted).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465661
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This is what I wanted - my wife and I able to use our own FB accounts & GMail with the native apps, not web browser. We have the same screen lock pin so we can unlock the tablet if it's asleep, then hit "SwitchMe" from the notification area and change user. Each profile can be password protected too.
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Hello Ptruman,
Thanks for the info and the intro on this software, been considering it myself but haven't had the time to play around with it.
One thing I would like to ask is about the highlighted part of my quote:
Bookmarks on the browser are not individual?
Was this tested with Stock or 3rd party browser?
Any further info you can give me would be much appreciated.
Thank you!
Stock (although I've also installed Chrome on one profile)
Gallery (and anything else that uses common storage) is shared - not tested bookmarks though - but Google Accounts ARE separate, and if you store your bookmarks on Google (not locally) they should be separate, no?
Actually I'm talking crap. I installed a new profile and it didn't have my bookmarks - so you should be ok.
Thanks for the heads up!
megabiteg said:
Thanks for the heads up!
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I was just about to post the same info this is a great app.. I have a school profile and a personal one... Love this, works great I'm on Cm9 rom.
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I have a school profile and a personal one.
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I love that idea I'm totally going to do the same. I wonder if someone has figured a way to use fast switch with tasker for automatic switching. I've tried a few setups but no luck yet. Awesome app though even without tasker.

Very 1st Things to do After Activation?

Hi everyone, just got my N3 last night and I am pretty excited about it.
I am a long time Mac Rumors member and my past phones have been ...... JB 3g, JB 3gs, JB 4, JB 4s
I am very upset with the tiny screens on my iphones and I refuse to wait another year for the 6 to come out.
So now I am a 1st time Android user and what to really check out the Android scene.
What are the first things I should do with the phone, what should I install right away? (different keyboards, apps, etc)
Is there a thread around here with tutes instructing how to transfer my contacts etc?
I surely will appreciate all replies, so thanks in advance. I really wanna get the very MOST out of this device.
edit: does Google Play offer any rebates/coupons/freebies for newly purchased devices?
Hey I would use smart switch to get your things from iPhone to your new phone but that is after you have it activated
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Hi everyone, just got my N3 last night and I am pretty excited about it.
I am a long time Mac Rumors member and my past phones have been ...... JB 3g, JB 3gs, JB 4, JB 4s
I am very upset with the tiny screens on my iphones and I refuse to wait another year for the 6 to come out.
So now I am a 1st time Android user and what to really check out the Android scene.
My N3 arrived Wednesday evening, and it's STILL not activated, (and its killing me).
The reason being, I wanna know if there is anything I should do BEFORE I call ATT and activate it.
(I do NOT want to close any windows, so is there is anything you folks recommend I do before I activate it)?
Once activated, what are the first things I should do with the phone, what should I install right away?
Is there a thread around here with tutes instructing how to transfer my contacts etc?
I surely will appreciate all replies, so thanks in advance. I really wanna get the very MOST out of this device.
edit: does Google Play offer any rebates/coupons/freebies for newly purchased devices?
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What do you mean by call ATT and activate it? All you have to do is put your SIM card in and it is ready to go with a few account setups. After that it is up to you except for rooting and modding. Cant be done right now without voiding your warranty.
First thing you do is scratch off the att emblem since they locked the bootloader
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XiphoneUzer said:
Once activated, what are the first things I should do with the phone, what should I install right away?
Is there a thread around here with tutes instructing how to transfer my contacts etc?
I surely will appreciate all replies, so thanks in advance. I really wanna get the very MOST out of this device.
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Hello?
Looking for some help here. This keyboard is way different than iphone, is it something you get used to, or should I install something else?
Please tell me what are some of the things I should change/install right away, (there's got to be some "must haves" no?)
XiphoneUzer said:
Hello?
Looking for some help here. This keyboard is way different than iphone, is it something you get used to, or should I install something else?
Please tell me what are some of the things I should change/install right away, (there's got to be some "must haves" no?)
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For the keyboard, i prefer the google keyboard over the samsung one. It provides functionality similar to the iphone and is easy to switch between the iphone and android if you use them both in daily life.
As for apps, here is a small list of apps i like to have on all of my devices.
GOOGLE CHROME. Its much better than the built in browser and is able to synchronize with my desktop browsers favorites, etc.
Skype: Perfect for if you are travelling over seas at all with your device.
Google Hangouts: A good replacement for the built in SMS app.
Facebook & Twitter: If you need an explanation, you shouldn't be useing these apps.
Battery Doctor by KS Mobile: Simple app, but is helpful to save battery life and know exactly how much you have left.
Google Music: I have most of my library stored on google so it makes my life easy to have this.
Google Books: The book equivalent of my music library. Syncronizes what i have read across devices and browsers.
Kindle for Android: For the ebooks you buy on amazon.
Google Keep: Great for taking quick notes and having them on all your devices.
Dropbox: Great cloud file storage. Comes with free storage and you can pay to get more.
Google Drive: Google version of dropbox.
MX Player: This video player will play any video format you throw at it.
Google Maps: A must have for all smartphone users.
Zedge: While its quality has gone down a fair bit from what it once was, its still a great place to find ringtones and notification sounds for your android device.
GPS Status: Great for calibrating your devices sensors and ensuring that it works properly.
Now for the ROOT ONLY apps.
Titanium backup
SuperSU
Triangle Away
Hopefully this is a useful list to get you started. I have all these plus many more installed on my devices, and I find I use them all fairly regularly.
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Skype: Perfect for if you are travelling over seas at all with your device.
Google Hangouts: A good replacement for the built in SMS app.
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I prefer Hangouts to Skype because Hangouts features free video multi-chat.
But I use Google Voice for SMS because it provides free unlimited texting. Hangouts insists on using the phone's native number rather than your Google Voice number, so you have to pay extra for a text plan or for individual messages.
Doesn't anyone else have any advice for a first time Android user?
XiphoneUzer said:
Doesn't anyone else have any advice for a first time Android user?
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If your new to android I'd stay away from root for a while.
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XiphoneUzer said:
Hello?
Looking for some help here. This keyboard is way different than iphone, is it something you get used to, or should I install something else?
Please tell me what are some of the things I should change/install right away, (there's got to be some "must haves" no?)
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I feel like for every-day typical phone use cases, there aren't that many gaps that stand out as needing to be filled by a third party app. You'll probably need a new music player, the defaults are crapola - but I can't be much help here; I keep my music as folders full of MP3 files (like God intended!) and play with Music Folder Player, and shun the dirty S&M ("sync and manage") apps.
There's a big list of stuff that I did when I first got the phone to get it to where I'm happy with it, but all of this was root required stuff. There are apps that come pre-loaded on android devices and can't be removed or disabled without root. Also, customizing stuff that can't be customized without root. I couldn't abide by some of the not-changable-without-root defaults. Getting rid of the "screen turns on so you can unlock it when you hit the home key" behavior is probably the most glaring example for me; my ass* was unlocking it constantly - but coming from iPhone, you probably view that as the Right Thing for home button to do.
I think most people use a custom keyboard. Swiftkey and Swype are the most popular. The phone comes with Swype, but it's an ancient version with limited support for changing the dictionary, you want the newest one.
I use Hangouts for gchat, but not for SMS. I actually prefer default app for SMS..
Settings:
Pull down status bar, long press on wifi, WiFi -> menu -> advanced settings, uncheck auto connect to AT&T hotspots (unless they don't suck where you are. Around here, they often don't have internet behind them, and just break your connectivity for the 30 seconds or so it takes for the phone to connect to them, determine that the wifi is no good, and fall back to 4G. At least this phone does that; Original note would just sit there like a fool trying to use non-functional wifi... I've also yet to find a hotspot that performs better than the 4G does. But I live in a city, so the situation may be different elsewhere).
Pull down status bar, long press on GPS. Uncheck "Use wireless networks" - on newer versions of android, this drains battery while idle; the damned thing wakes the phone periodically to check the networks around it - if the phone is nearly idle, this can halve battery life (!!!)
Pull down status bar, swipe to the left along the options at the top (woah, did you know you could do that?), tap multiwindow to enable multiwindow (this was a headline feature for the note 3, but comes disabled by default). If I long-press back button, that makes the multiwindow tab hide or unhide (once it's enabled), but I don't remember if I had to do something to get this behavior.
General must-have things:
AppOps Starter (to kill permissions from apps that request permissions you don't want to give them)
Battery Monitor Widget (gives you a realtime readout of battery usage)
ES File Explorer
If you want to pretty-ize clock + weather widgets:
DigiClock
Eye in Sky
If you work in IT or have need of these (if you aren't sure what these mean, you don't need them ):
ConnectBot (telnet/ssh client)
AndFTP (ftp/sftp client, supports scp if you pay)
RDP Client (remote desktop and VNC client)
FEAT VPN (OpenVPN client)
Hacker's Keyboard (you'll tear your hair out trying to use swype/swiftkey for terminal sessions or RDP)
If you want to root the phone:
Root it, then immediately install titanium backup and "freeze" AT&T software update, so it won't update your phone (breaking root) while you're not looking
Titanium Backup - freeze all the useless bloatware that AT&T and Samsung included (there's a list of what apps you can freeze here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmzC8GFarItSdGpOZzBfWlR4MC03aDMyZ1BDUFNqU0E - not my work)
Root Explorer
Pen Window Manager for adding apps to the pen window feature
Xposed Framework
Wanam - general huge amount of customization, including selecting apps for multiwindow.
Keyboard Manager (almost a necessity if you use ConnectBot/RDP frequently - keyboards designed for messaging and such are garbage for doing administration of non-phone systems, while hacker's keyboard is garbage for messaging and everyday phone stuff)
Terminal Emulator (gives you a command prompt on phone. Doesn't require root, but there are very few use cases for terminal on android that don't also need root)
*Well, I keep it in my front pocket, so technically it wasn't my /ass/ unlocking the phone....

Nokia 1520 or Note 3?

Please help me to decide. I have used android for long time. I want to try something different but I'm not sure . Any one here switched from the Note or an android phone?
argo1a said:
Please help me to decide. I have used android for long time. I want to try something different but I'm not sure . Any one here switched from the Note or an android phone?
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First of all, you're asking in the Windows Phone 8 General section, so you probably won't get an unbiased opinion, so be sure to check out other sources too, which should help you decide.
Honestly, I think I would go for the Note 3. I currently use both Windows Phone 8 and Android 4.4.2 (ATIV S and Nexus 4) and I think both of them are great devices. But I prefere using the ATIV S because of its camera, the keyboard and its performance.
But in case of a phablet, I think the Note 3 (with a good custom ROM) is a much better choice.
The Nokia Lumia 1520 has a great camera, a wonderful screen and Windows Phone 8 performs seemlessly on it. The Note 3 has a bit smaller screen than the Lumia 1520, does support input via stylus and can be used much more productively. If you need or want a stylus, you have no other choice.
The Lumia 1520 is a great phone though, but imho it is not a good phablet, because I simply expect stylus support from a smartphone with such a big screen. If you just want a phone that has a great battery, great camera, great screen, great performance, great built-quality all the advantages and disadvanteges of Windows Phone 8 and you want to try something different/new, you should totally get the Lumia.
Maybe take a look at some reviews, but I don't think that you are making a wrong decision when buying either of these devices.
If you want to change from ecosystem.......from Droid to WP8x
Then you should do a lot more than compare devices.
There is a upcomming update for wp8 ( wp8.1 ) so some of the stuf you read wil soon be obsolete.
Phablets is not only about stylus.
I got a 1320, the big little brother of the 1520.
And i like it better than the note I of my wife and the note II of my daugter.
The letterfonts are bigger, i dont need my glasses to work with it.
Its simply strait forward and does everything what it supose to do.
Battery life is a lot longer and also i find the gps a lot better.
Aspecialy with the Here maps and Here drive.
Also the Nokia camera-app is way better than the one on the Samsung.
But there is no possibility to change custom roms and root ( yet ),
but thats oke because it works great strait out of the box, no need for tinkering.
yeah, he should definitely take a look at Windows Phone 8.1.
The Lumia 1520 is great, but imho it is just another Nokia phone with a bigger screen. This is not bad at all, Nokia makes great phones, but it is not really a phablet like the Note 3.
If you want something that will work out-of the box for years, have a great performance as always and will just become better the more you use it, you should take the Lumia 1520. For everything else, like Custom-ROMs, stylus support, etc. you will have to get the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
1520
HI
i own a nokia 1520 and i like it very very much. everything goes smooth and the phablet is very handy , long battery life ...in my case 3 days... beautiful design...much quicker browsing !!
there are so many android devices on the market and allmost everybody has such a phone.
with the 1520 you have something special in your hand. all my friends want to have a nokia 1x20 or x20 ...
go for the NOKIA LUMIA 1520 !!!!
I like the 1520. I can live with windows phone limitations. Android is indeed a better OS without a doubt cz you can drop your PC for an android phone but with WP you can't do a lot of things.. But I love the windows phone, its faster, more secure, stylish and has a better look. Its a matter of taste and a subjective approach... I chose the Lumia 1520 and didn't buy the Note 3.
argo1a said:
Please help me to decide. I have used android for long time. I want to try something different but I'm not sure . Any one here switched from the Note or an android phone?
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i switched android phone...
note 3 is more productive than nokia :good:
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note 3 is more productive than nokia :good:
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wel nee, Nokia is more productive ..........
serious
How come that N3 is more productive than a 1520, care to explane?
I heard that a lot, but they never could explane.
I, too, wanted to leave android and get a windows phone.
Until I realized what I used primarily, and how windows phones didn't have it (officially, or yet)
I didn't want a clone of VLC - I wanted VLC. Or a subsitute of Chrome/Firefox - I wanted the real thing.
My bank didn't have an app - I could just use the mobile version, but then again, that's true for almost everything! Right???
Tethering wasn't available, or at least how I would tether. So those long trips w/me using my Verizon unlimited plan instead of those crappy hotel wifis....gone!
Shoot, even the price of the windows store seemed pitiful! Apps that were 99 cents on android were 2.99 on windows!
These are things you gotta take into account!!!!
I had the note 3 when it first came out for T-Mobile. I actually had every major galaxy phone S1, s2, s3, sIV,(I will be skipping S V, 1 because it didn't impress me, and 2 I'm so bored with Samsung phones), Note 2 and Note3, along with some HTC android phones and some Sony android phones. I recently switched to the unicorn model of the Lumia 1520. I say unicorn model because it's a very hard and rare phone to find. It actually supports the AWS band for T-Mobile along with the At&t bands and rest of the world bands.
I actually got bored with Android and wanted something different. Pretty much it comes down to the how much do you really care about apps/games. I don't game a lot on a phone that's why I have consoles, 3ds, vita, and a pc. I do a lot of productivity on my phone though. A lot of banking and emails. Not really into the social media stuff. As people always say, windows phone does not have a lot of apps. Some of my banks do not have apps on windows phone. But when you look at what an app does it is just a pretty UI that connects to your bank. In windows I can just pin the website to the home page and poof instant app for that bank or that website, etc. On the Lumia 1520, the screen is large enough where it's not hassle.
I can say that battery life between the two, are very good. Both will last all day with heavy usage. I normally am streaming music, checking emails, playing a game or two, viewing websites, and watch a little Netflix and I don't have to charge untill I go to bed. Normally the phone is off the charger about 6:00 am each day and I got bed around 11pm or 12am. Performance wise, I have to say the windows phone runs a little smoother.
When it comes to customization, Android wins hands down. I actually do miss the customization that Android allows. On windows phone you have the tiles you can put and you can resize them between small, medium, and large. Medium and large will show additional information, where as small tile just shows the app without any info.
Tethering works fine on both, although on the Lumia 1520 I did have to do a few extra steps to get it to work. Apparently the US carriers has some type of block on the built in tethering app. One last thing, if you heavily in with google services, pretty much none of those services are available on windows phone. So no google play, no google voice, no push service for gmail, no chrome, etc.
The things I don't like about windows phone:
1.) Unable to download large files - I tried to download a 2 GB map file for the nokia here and it said I had to switch to wifi. Android has no such restrictions.
2.) Lack of Customization
3.) Lack of Google services (Not sure if it's Google or MS)
The things I like:
1.) Very clean and simple interface,
2.) The Lumia 1520 has a great design
3.) Runs smooth and works
4.) Office intergration
5.) Native Email and Calendar apps are the best (much better than android or ios)
Things I like about android:
1.) Customization
2.) Tethering worked out the box
3.) No restrictions on file types to download or file size
4.) Multitasking with 2 apps on the screen at once.
Things I don't like about android:
1.) You have to root to really use the phone as you want
2.) A lot of bloatware
3.) You have to watch out for rogue apps (haven't heard of any in windows phone)
4.) You may or may not get the next version of the OS regardless of how new your phone may be.
This is just my thoughts. So far though I'm like the 1520. I have high hopes for the next update to windows phone and look forward to it improving. Windows phone is still young so still is playing catch-up, but I think it has a bright future.
Erm... there are plenty of third-party apps for Google Voice on WP8, and push for Gmail works fine for me and has been for years (since WP7). With that said, yeah, the integration with Google services other than Gmail and Calendar isn't great, and mostly relies on third-party apps.
GoodDayToDie said:
Erm... there are plenty of third-party apps for Google Voice on WP8, and push for Gmail works fine for me and has been for years (since WP7). With that said, yeah, the integration with Google services other than Gmail and Calendar isn't great, and mostly relies on third-party apps.
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It's actually fetch if you use the default email client on non Microsoft accounts. It only allows push on Microsoft accounts (.msn,.live,.hotmail,.outlook). For those accounts you have the option to receive mail as they arrive. But when you set up Gmail you have to select intervals and the shortest interval is every 15 minutes. At least when I set it up it did not give me the option of as mail arrives on the Gmail accounts.
Ah... I still have ActiveSync on my Gmail account, and therefore get push email plus calendar and contact sync. I've heard that new accounts may not get ActiveSync anymore, but it still works for me. Try setting up an Exchange/Outlook account with the following details and see if it works? May only work for accounts created before 2013 or something (mine's from way back when Gmail was invite-only beta...)
Username = <your Gmail address, including the @gmail.com or similar>
Password = <your Google password>
Server = m.google.com
Require SSL = Yes
Note 3 for sure... and I'm a Windows Phone user, really good OS. Note 3 is the best Android device ever, at least for me.
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I, too, wanted to leave android and get a windows phone.
Until I realized what I used primarily, and how windows phones didn't have it (officially, or yet)
I didn't want a clone of VLC - I wanted VLC. Or a subsitute of Chrome/Firefox - I wanted the real thing.
My bank didn't have an app - I could just use the mobile version, but then again, that's true for almost everything! Right???
Tethering wasn't available, or at least how I would tether. So those long trips w/me using my Verizon unlimited plan instead of those crappy hotel wifis....gone!
Shoot, even the price of the windows store seemed pitiful! Apps that were 99 cents on android were 2.99 on windows!
These are things you gotta take into account!!!!
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yeah you're 100% right, but after all, and I'm talking about myself - android guy- I threw away all "reason" and I did buy the Lumia cz its simply better than the note. Better in hand, better in screen, better in sound, camera, looks, touch sensitivity (or at least how I feel), build quality.....etc... its a Nokia !!!! Lol
I went from OG Droid -> Droid X -> Galaxy Nexus = 6 years of Android to a brand spanking new Nokia Lumia Icon (the slightly smaller version of the 1520 on Verizon).
I can say, in the end, I just got tired of tinkering with my Android phones. Root-wipe-backup-install rom-install kernel-backup, rinse and repeat - over and over again, every time a updated ROM was submitted to the site. I just got tired of it all. Windows phone has limitations, but you have to take it for what it is, after all, these are smart PHONES we are talking about here. They all do the same things, some differently, some the same. The Galaxy nexus was awesome when I first got it, but after about a year, it lagged like crazy, no matter what rom/kernel combo I had on it. The battery life was abysmal. The Note 3 is better on all accords, but from seeing my friends GS4 lag it up after a year, it seems that even new hardware cant keep up on Android. But I think this is also dependent on the user, if you have a lot of apps, and you tinker its bound to run like $hit after a year +.
If your debating between the Note and a Lumia phone, my recommendation is to go with the Lumia (unless you have a specific need for the stylus). I tried the Note 3 out for 2 weeks, and returned it. It was faster, and almost lag free, but touchwiz is just aweful, and trying to put 2 apps on screen lagged the thing to death. Its a good feature, that is really not ready for prime time. Maybe in a year or 2 Android and the chips will be ready for this feature, but its just not there yet, for me.
My reasons for choosing the Lumia are very simple. I looked at my Android device, and decided that there were really no apps that I couldn't live without. I looked through the windows phone store to see if I could do what I needed to, and haven't really missed a beat. The phone is highly customizable with apps like Custom Tile Maker, and Lockmix, and I find the live tiles refreshing and new. The things I miss, are reported coming to Windows phone 8.1 - VPN, Notification Center, and Cortana (Google Now replacement), and background images on the start screen. The Camera is better than my point and shoot camera, it gives me RAW .dng files, that I can open in Photoshop / Lightroom and edit. Add to it all, the fact that I use a Windows 8 PC, and the syncing between the devices is really pretty awesome. I forward all my GMAIL to my Outlook.com account, and I can say, outlook.com is soooooooo much better than gmail. The App gap is more media perceived than reality. The only apps I couldn't find a suitable replacement for were kids apps, and an HSBC banking app (which is supposedly coming soon).
To replace your Google services:
Here Maps/Drive is better than Google Maps Navigation. Only think I miss is street view.
MetroTube for Youtube (you can download audio or video for anything
Outlook > GMAIL (forward gmail to outlook.com, or just use built in mail app with fetch)
Onedrive > Google Drive
Office > Google Docs
No stupid requirement to use Google +. Windows Phone ME tile, allows you to connect to multiple social media apps, and integrates them into the experience. Its pretty great once you get into it.
Music: Cloudmuzik Beta - works for Google Music you have previously uploaded, but I find that XBOX music subscription blows everything out of the water. I like it better than Spotify. Nokia Mix Radio is better than Pandora too, and its free on Nokia devices.
Hangouts - I use IM+, works fine. I have a feeling Skype will be integrating google chat at some point, but until then, IM+ is suitable chat replacement.
Bing and Google.....difference is really subjective. if im not getting the results I want on Bing, just go to google.com, and do the same search
for File management, and multiple cloud storage integration, use Pocket File Manager app - I paid for it, its pretty awesome. Theres no Dropbox app, you can access your files via Pocket File Manager, or use Cloudsix for Dropbox app.
I don't know, I guess my opinion of Android just soured over time. The only thing that I "miss" is being able to steal wifi tethering through a rooted device. Take my opinion like a grain of salt, because that's what it is, my opinion, and just like everyone else, im entitled to my opinion.
Thanks
I had the note 2 since it came out,and before that the Captivate and all the others up to #3...Motorola,and a few Iphones..
Last Sunday..I traded it in on the 1520 along with my wife's original Captivate for her a 1020
I had both rooted and custom roms loaded..
As much as I used to enjoy flashing roms,radios,themes...it just became tiresome to me as well..
I did my comparison of all the new Sammy phones..and went with these because they did exactly what we wanted,and because for me there was no comparison of build quality or screen displays...no for my wife a better camera.
Also,as far as connectativity these connect better than any here at work and home..
Do I miss my Androids...no..not in the least and have run win 7/8 themes off and on for a couple of years anyway...and there isn't any apps I can't find I use in the wins app store
FWIW..I'm extremely pleased with my choices..
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I've had a Note1, Note2 and S4. An iphone 3g and 4. A lumia 920 and 1520. I like my 1520 much better than my note 2. The note3 isn't a significant upgrade as far as I'm concerned. Aside from missing a lot of games and not being able to tether for free, I love wp8 and the 1530. Wp8 is smoother than even ios. Btw, I also have an ipad3 and galaxy tab pro 8.4.

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