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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

[Q] MIUI App Killer settings?

Hey, hope your're fine, people.
Say me please: is it possible to make an exception for one of the user's apps from MIUI App Killer?
I'll explain:
For example, imagine that i installed an application (in my case it's "wave launcher") that should work on the background, but App Killer is closing all non-system processes, when i'm pressing the button "App Killer". So can i make an exception for the MIUI App Killer by myself or find its settings anywhere? Does it have any settings or something as well?
I'm on MIUI. Not regular Android.
Thank you!
- Leo

Yeah ^^
I wana do the same...
Might play around with moving apps to system with root explorer [after nandroid BU o/c]
Maybe that'll keep my monitoring/scaling apps from being restarted & having to re-do settings ain:

[Q] Does the Battery Doctor works for you ?

Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Liooh said:
Whenever I use this app **** it doesn't work properly, here is some bugs:
The widget is ****ed up! You click on the bottom and it says it closes 6 apps, the turn out: it doesnt close any ****. My apps keep running, and on settings I configure it to close way more apps than 6. but doesnt work..
Properly configured I go to optimize to close 42 apps. Ok, I know some of them are from android and android properly blocks that even though Im rooted and I grant the permission.
But some apps don't even close.. like facebook, cleaner...
Do that on your own. Close the apps with the Battery doctor app then go check apps that's running, and they will be there!
What is happening ?
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Test DU Battery Saver is best

keeps running...
Also, DU doesnt have the lowering CPU usage function --'

I personally use Greenify (non-root) with Automated hibernation enabled. Works fine for me and keeps those apps that sick the battery hibernated. I've not used Battery Doctor, and possibly won't since it sounds like some of the malware I remove off client unit's at work.

Battery "saver" apps usually end up doing the opposite... Wasting.
Except Greenify, when used properly. ?
Just my 2 cents.
Also, no need for the language... This is an all ages site remember. ?

[Q] Is there a way to stop facebook from automatically running in my background

I would like to stop facebook and facebook messanger from running in my background. I know about greenify but it wont let me put those two apps into hibernation because they are system apps, i am using a rooted galaxy s6 from at&t. Is there a way to turn them into a user app and if there is will that do any harm to my device?

Don't know if this will work or not - try freezing the included version with tibu, then installing from play store. Then greenify.

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Don't know if this will work or not - try freezing the included version with tibu, then installing from play store. Then greenify.
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lol Very clever but it it only gives me a enable option when i go to the play store to try and install it again

Just use Greenify if you're rooted you can hibernate it. Or use tibu to uninstall it and install it from the play store.

eboc87 said:
lol Very clever but it it only gives me a enable option when i go to the play store to try and install it again
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Oh well, sorry it didn't work.

Clienterror said:
Just use Greenify if you're rooted you can hibernate it. Or use tibu to uninstall it and install it from the play store.
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Wasnt able to greenify it before even when i was rooted but your other suggestion worked perfectly, Thank a bunch !!

In order to Greenify Facebook, you will have to donate $3 since on our phones, it's considered a system app.

Third Party App Notifications not working unless App is Open

I've noticed that if you use a third party app for SMS like Signal, you dont get a notification unless the application is open, same with gmail.
Has anyone else noticed this?

go to advance setting >battery manager >protected app and check if application is not checked on , that's mean when screen is off the application will not work unless you open it... so if you need notification from certain apps just mark it on

aymnga said:
go to advance setting >battery manager >protected app and check if application is not checked on , that's mean when screen is off the application will not work unless you open it... so if you need notification from certain apps just mark it on
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I had the same issue, even checked on, my notifications are late or not working at all. Starting to regret I got this phone :-/

hello i have problem with notifications with boom beach and clash of clans.only raided notifications coming CoC and BB only task force operation. i try check in battery both games buth nothing change. still not coming.tried reinstall both and google play games too but same. any idea. stock MM without root
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This is a the 'doze' function in Huawei EMUI. A lot of firmwares have this issue. It's because Huawei has blacklisted many apps to not to send notification when screen is off. The apps that are white-listed include WhatsApp and some Chinese Tencent crap.
There is a method to enable notifications for all apps but obviously that requires root.
And yeah, Welcome to EMUI, a UI that plays with your emotions.

hackslash said:
This is a the 'doze' function in Huawei EMUI. A lot of firmwares have this issue. It's because Huawei has blacklisted many apps to not to send notification when screen is off. The apps that are white-listed include WhatsApp and some Chinese Tencent crap.
There is a method to enable notifications for all apps but obviously that requires root.
And yeah, Welcome to EMUI, a UI that plays with your emotions.
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I find this quite worrying as a potential P9 owner. Is there a list somewhere of these black/white listed apps?

scook94 said:
I find this quite worrying as a potential P9 owner. Is there a list somewhere of these black/white listed apps?
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All I can say is I have turned on every apps to run when the screen is off. I do t get any notifications, only if I go on the app or if I turned the phone off then back on I get a batch of notifications. I receive certain apps notification but its not consistent. Can't wait for a good root, to get rid of this crappy EMUI and hopefully the camera app will be ported, I'm happy with the pbone, the camera, but this UI is from hell.

Weird, I have 0 issues with notifications, everything turns up very quickly. Gmail, whatsapp, youtube comments... Etc.
I also use Nils lockscreen notifications though, I have the huawei lockscreen notification system disabled. It works very well like this until I find the time to root.

clouds5 said:
Weird, I have 0 issues with notifications, everything turns up very quickly. Gmail, whatsapp, youtube comments... Etc.
I also use Nils lockscreen notifications though, I have the huawei lockscreen notification system disabled. It works very well like this until I find the time to root.
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How did you disable it? Mine is greyed out saying locked by administrator and I haven't. This UI is starting to P me off. Think touchwiz will see me again soon ?

Have you looked at apps > phone manager > notification centre?
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fredhd said:
How did you disable it? Mine is greyed out saying locked by administrator and I haven't. This UI is starting to P me off. Think touchwiz will see me again soon ��
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I only disabled the huawei lockscreen notification system (to disable the lockscreen all together you need root). Just use any lockscreen other than the stock magazine one in the theme selecter.
The UI certainly is different. But imho customizable enough that it doesn't get in the way. This is android after all.

clouds5 said:
I only disabled the huawei lockscreen notification system (to disable the lockscreen all together you need root). Just use any lockscreen other than the stock magazine one in the theme selecter.
The UI certainly is different. But imho customizable enough that it doesn't get in the way. This is android after all.
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Cheers mate, will have a pop at it. [emoji106]
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fredhd said:
Cheers mate, will have a pop at it. [emoji106]
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OK if you guys have root i have something to try for you. I had issues with the process of GMD gesture control. It was killed by the battery saving tools implemented in this phone.
So I tried freezing certain system apps through titanium to find the one responsible for closing the background process and I think I found it:
It's a process/app called "power genie". I disabled it and now the process sticks. Also I made gesture control a system app, so maybe it's a combination of the two things.
It's not the same issue as you had but maybe it works for you too.

clouds5 said:
OK if you guys have root i have something to try for you. I had issues with the process of GMD gesture control. It was killed by the battery saving tools implemented in this phone.
So I tried freezing certain system apps through titanium to find the one responsible for closing the background process and I think I found it:
It's a process/app called "power genie". I disabled it and now the process sticks. Also I made gesture control a system app, so maybe it's a combination of the two things.
It's not the same issue as you had but maybe it works for you too.
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So does this method allow for notifications to come through without having firstly opened the application then going to home-screen with it still open?

Milamber said:
So does this method allow for notifications to come through without having firstly opened the application then going to home-screen with it still open?
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You'd have to try that out for yourself because I never had any issues with notifications coming through and I use third party software (Nils) for lockscreen notification.
What I described is a method that prevents a Huawei "power save" service called power genie killing background processes. No guarantees though, I had issues with gmd gesture control not working after a few minutes and I had to constantly open the app to make it work again. Then I froze power genie and since then it worked 100%.
So it's just my theory that it might stop other apps/processes from being closed as well.

I still dont get notifications coming through via the official gmail app, i might trying that power genie freeze, since any app thats not Huawei wont come through as a notification and thats when I give the app full access.'

I'm not sure if this is worth a try, but there's an option to 'ignore optimisations' on a per-app basis.
In settings > Apps > Advanced > Ignore optimisations > All apps
I've instructed to ignore optimisations for Dash, an app with a background service that launches the app upon connection to my car's Bluetooth OBD. I'll feed back if this has any impact, as I've noticed it doesn't auto-start the app on the Huawei P9 as it used to on my Nexus 5, despite 'protecting' the app in the battery manager.

Milamber said:
I still dont get notifications coming through via the official gmail app, i might trying that power genie freeze, since any app thats not Huawei wont come through as a notification and thats when I give the app full access.'
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If it's just Gmail, try deleting cache and data for the Gmail app and reboot first. My wife had the same issue just with the Gmail app a few days ago (on a galaxy s3 though).

Same issue with Instagram so I guess it's not only gmail