Hi,
May be this is a glitch in the software. But the pictures in album are too saturated with the BE2 turned on. I understand that the purpose of BE is to bring better saturation, contrast and sharpness for the images. But here, I feel that the saturation level is too high to be realistic.
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Then turn it off. Simple.
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I'm coming from an LG G2, which had a great camera in low-light situations. I noticed a knock on some reviews for this camera in same situations, and I tried it out a bit and my pics look a little grainy. What are suggested settings for the camera? Thanks.
RCizzle65 said:
I'm coming from an LG G2, which had a great camera in low-light situations. I noticed a knock on some reviews for this camera in same situations, and I tried it out a bit and my pics look a little grainy. What are suggested settings for the camera? Thanks.
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First, to remove the noise from your photos i suggest you to use the app 'A Better Camera' which has a good noise reduction process, once you downloaded it go in night mode, then go to 'other settings', then go to "shot mode settings", "night", "overnight processing", set noise reduction to maximum and shadow elimination to none, and tick the saturation check.
If you prefer Sony's camera use these settings in manual mode:
Exposure: one or two bars below value of 0
WB: auto
Resolution: 15,5 mpx
Focus mode: multiple autofocus (i think that's what it's called in english)
ISO: This is the most important setting. You can set it to 100 or even 50 to avoid noise and artifacts caused by heavy postprocessing by software. But, the lower the iso, darker the image will be. So on a sunny day it can be 50 od 100, On a cloudy day, a bit higher and in night photos 800.
Metering: multiple
Focusing: When you want to take photo, put object you want to take photo of in the middle and half press shutter button. When squares turn blue on places you want focused, keep shutter half pressed and you can then move your phone to left, right, up or down and not losing focus. That way you make your composition. When you think you have your scene set up, finally press the button all the way.
(i copied these text from the user Istic).
I don't get hdr is a separate mode and just not on by default for taking regular pictures? Wouldn't you want hdr on most of the time?
worldsoutro said:
I don't get hdr is a separate mode and just not on by default for taking regular pictures? Wouldn't you want hdr on most of the time?
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Because they wanted to appeal to photographers and HDR is a dirty word.
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Hi worldsoutro,
Photography is all about capturing light. And HDR is just another way of doing it. But it's not main way of taking photos. So, it totally makes sense to have HDR as an option. HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, which in return allows you to combine whites (bright spots) and blacks (shadows) in one image. In order to create such image, the camera has to capture at least three images.
1st - under-exposed (this image will give you very nice and dark shadows).
2nd - correct exposure (normal photo).
3rd - over-exposed (capturing those whites, sunlight, anything bright).
Then software will take all three shots and compose one image. The three images is a bare minimum, and there are methods that use 7 or more images to combine into one.
The biggest downside of HDR is color representation. All colors are going to be in extreme ranges. Also taking HDR photos is probably heavy on the battery, since you are probably capturing more than one image very quickly and processing it (HDR in Huawei might all be simulated via software as well, so it might be just taking one image and processes it to make it look like HDR).
If someone has info about how Huawei has implemented HDR photography, please post! I'm actually curious now.
zed'sded_bb said:
Hi worldsoutro,
Photography is all about capturing light. And HDR is just another way of doing it. But it's not main way of taking photos. So, it totally makes sense to have HDR as an option. HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, which in return allows you to combine whites (bright spots) and blacks (shadows) in one image. In order to create such image, the camera has to capture at least three images.
1st - under-exposed (this image will give you very nice and dark shadows).
2nd - correct exposure (normal photo).
3rd - over-exposed (capturing those whites, sunlight, anything bright).
Then software will take all three shots and compose one image. The three images is a bare minimum, and there are methods that use 7 or more images to combine into one.
The biggest downside of HDR is color representation. All colors are going to be in extreme ranges. Also taking HDR photos is probably heavy on the battery, since you are probably capturing more than one image very quickly and processing it (HDR in Huawei might all be simulated via software as well, so it might be just taking one image and processes it to make it look like HDR).
If someone has info about how Huawei has implemented HDR photography, please post! I'm actually curious now.
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Your description of combining exposures is correct, but you got the reasons for the different exposures wrong, underexposed is to retain detail in highlights, and overexposed is to retain detail in the shadows.
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zed'sded_bb said:
Hi worldsoutro,
Photography is all about capturing light. And HDR is just another way of doing it. But it's not main way of taking photos. So, it totally makes sense to have HDR as an option. HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, which in return allows you to combine whites (bright spots) and blacks (shadows) in one image. In order to create such image, the camera has to capture at least three images.
1st - under-exposed (this image will give you very nice and dark shadows).
2nd - correct exposure (normal photo).
3rd - over-exposed (capturing those whites, sunlight, anything bright).
Then software will take all three shots and compose one image. The three images is a bare minimum, and there are methods that use 7 or more images to combine into one.
The biggest downside of HDR is color representation. All colors are going to be in extreme ranges. Also taking HDR photos is probably heavy on the battery, since you are probably capturing more than one image very quickly and processing it (HDR in Huawei might all be simulated via software as well, so it might be just taking one image and processes it to make it look like HDR).
If someone has info about how Huawei has implemented HDR photography, please post! I'm actually curious now.
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Over-exposure gives usable shadows and under-exposure usable highlights [emoji16]
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So in a bright sunny day should I always shoot with HDR?
Good catch guys. Yeah, overexposure allows you to get all details in the shaded areas and preserve them. While underexposed photo would exaggerate light sources.
I suppose we are turning this into HDR topic altogether.
worldsoutro - I think you can use HDR whenever you think you will like the result. Photography is art in the end. I would say that during midday hours (when the sun light is the harshest) and at night (with appropriate light) HDR can give you some cool results.
Play around with different modes. Check out Pro mode too. You basically have a full control over the scene. It's pretty cool.
Hope it all was helpful. Cheers!
Auto (photo) mode uses HDR whenever it deems it appropriate - it's those situations where it says "sharpening - hold the device still" (also the same situations where most of the criticisms of excessive sharpening apply).
It's a less elegant implementation of the auto HDR you see in some other phones, and one you can't turn off without switching to pro mode (but then pro mode is very good on the P20 Pro and also allows all its settings to remain on auto, so usually not a big problem making that switch when you need it).
worldsoutro said:
So in a bright sunny day should I always shoot with HDR?
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It depends on what outcome you have in mind the time you take the photo. I like playing with light and although I like wide dynamic range look, I also like to take photos with high contrast, so auto mode gets played some times and I have to lock the exposure the way I want
I am using dslrs for many many years (always travelling with a backpack full of lenses) but I think this phone's camera is really amazing. In really low light situations you can take way sharper photos than what you would with a dslr when handheld, and that's something.
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There are a lot of posts and review mentioning this problem about the camera, photos, and videos, but it's not just the output coming from the lens: it's the entire display.
It's not just that it's pinker than other devices: when you look at photos of humans or things you know were supposed to be yellower, it's noticeable and looks wrong, even without another screen to reference. Humans look especially piggy-pink. Sand looks pink. Wood looks pink.
Yes, it's possible to adjust color balance from the Settings menu, but if I adjust for reds, the whites become off-balanced: too yellow-green.
The color temperature wheel also does nothing for a separate issue: contrast and saturation. In Normal mode, it's too muted. Meanwhile, "Vivid" mode comically oversaturates. Compared to a Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 4 XL (and other screens, mobile and desktop), colors (in Normal) are more muted than expected. Parts of images that should be charteuse or neon are instead just nearly-pastel yellow-green. Darks and blacks are nearly greyish.
Can anything be done to calibrate the screen, via root, apps, or otherwise?
How do I take B+W photos but not with the filters ?
Just use a photo editor and reduce saturation to zero.
Also there are many camera apps on the store that take B&W photos so you can preview before taking the shot
turdboman said:
How do I take B+W photos but not with the filters ?
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Not possible as it is limited by hardware. The sensors on the s21 ultra has a physical color filter array on them which helps them to capture RGB spectrum.
So unless you are talented enough to remove this RGB filter and replace it with a monochrome filter, you will have to use software simulation to enjoy b&w photos.
When it records the image it records the gray scale for each channel, the b&w image is already there. Simply edit/save with saturation at zero.
That's how I set up the proper contrast and black level, then bring up the saturation when editing sometimes.
Or shoot in RAW mode and post edit that image as you have all the raw sensor data. I doubt you'll see much if any difference...
This isn't rocket science.
Hi,
Does anyone know what the different 'picture quality' settings in the camera app mean? There are 3 settings, low, standard and high. What do these actually do, and is there one that you prefer? A separate setting exists that says Enhance Image Quality. Isn't that kind of redundant, and should this be kept on?
In a lot of youtube video reviews for this phone, they compare the photo quality of the phone, and then they say something like, after 4-1 binning, the photo looks much better. If this is the case, what settings do I need to set on the phone to get the '4-1 binned' quality?
Cheers!
Picture quality is so obvious, I do not have numbers but it is about resolution and number of pixels. Try to take the same photo with different quality then try to zoom in photo to understand.
enhanced image quality is a nice feature that I have turned off, I like raw images than enhanced and I hate that sometimes it goes to night mode while I want to take low light photos , but it definitely is a great feature.
Not sure what is 4-1 binning and never heard of it.
My settings are the following:
HDR AUTO
AI OFF
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Under camera settings:
Mode section: motion capture on, the rest are off. High quality picture.
Under preserve settings, beautify off**** was passing me off before update.
That is more than enough for me for images.
Hope it helps