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Audio and Browser Questions

Please be patient, I am new to HTC and WM6 and I'm hoping to get some recommendations
I have about 4GB of music on my micro SD that I copied off my iPod, so it's in acc format which the audio manager doesn't recognize. I downloaded TCPMP and the acc plugin and it plays the music but its doesn't show the song info (title, artist etc) till you open the song.
Also you can't search by artist, or genre like you can in audio manager
Can anyone recommend a good audio player or someway to get audio manager to recognize acc files
I really prefer opera mini over IE but I have to go into the java app first to select it, is there anyway to get an opera shortcut onto the start screen
I really appreciate any advice or tips for the newbie questions

Opera Mobile is designed for smartphones and should give you a regular icon to load it with, mini is made primarily for regular phones with only their crappy build in browsers which is why it works only in java.
iTunes music is the most annoying on planet earth. You can convert it to mp3 or delete the DMA off of it to allow it to play properly but its time consuming and annoying. I dont know of any plugin for Audio Manager that will allow you to play the iTunes music, only what other people have created for other players.
Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.

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Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.
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Yeah most of it is CD rips, I was hoping to avoid having to rip them again

When you initially ripped them did you tell iTunes to connect to the net and pull the information and creat an id3 tag for it? If not then thats why none of the track info is pulling over. iTunes will read the title / cd / artist name off the disct but when you use them as mp3's or in other players I have heard of some issues with the information not being read properly...
All my music is in mp3, ogg, FLAC and other formats on my computer, if my wife wants anything she pulls it over. She has bought some things off iTunes but they are such a pain to use elsewhere that eh.

You should have set ITunes to only rip to MP3 for compatibility reasons such as this. I'm not too sure what/if anything can read aac files on Windows Mobile. I know their is a way to get Opera Mini's icon as well as a way to have it function as your default browser (that is clicking on hyperlinks in e-mails, sms, ect) bring you to Opera Mini. There's quite a lot of info on that if you search.
As far as Opera Mobile, yea it may be designed for Smartphone, and yea it may be better than IE, but it does not in anyway compete with Opera Mini in terms of speed and website rendering.

Audio Player??

Is there any Developer working in a new audio player, with a lot of new features including just play songs from the folder you select.
I use my g1 on my car alot and the stock audio players sucks!
for example I can't play songs from a specific folder, the player takes all the songs from the g1 sdcard. the shuffle option don't work right I have about 1500 songs and it playes the sames songs when on shuffle etc.
I'm desperate for a new audio players with good features, specific to use the g1 as a real mp3 player, and for car mp3 play use.

TuneWiki perhaps?

^^^ I hate tune wiki. It never displays the right album artwork.

Hey there! Not trying to hijack your thread, but I got a quick question...I noticed that you said you use your G1 in the car. I have Ford Sync and I have heard the music/navigation broadcast over the speakers, but only when I was actually on a call. How are you connecting? Bluetooth doesn't work and I've also tried using the usb cable.
I also second your "request" for a new music player. The G1 is lacking in the music/video department. My boyfried has an iPhone and I just can't argue when it comes to the media part of the phone...my only argument is having to use iTunes.

Perrosky, have you tried aPlayer?

I'll agree with you on those points. I have a lot of poorly-tagged music and just being able to browse by folder/file would be helpful. Shuffling a folder would be nice as well.
I ended up creating a ton of playlists to accomplish this with the current players. Tunewiki is a step up from the bundled player, but it is still quite lacking.
Some other features I'd like to see:
1. Audio controls like EQ, Balance, etc.
2. Bookmarking. If I'm 15 minutes into a 30 minute audiobook track I'd really prefer to not have to remember where I left off when I start listening again.
I'm sure it is only a matter of time before somebody ports an open source audio player to Android. If they can do it for Rockbox, they can do it for android...

JonFolse said:
^^^ I hate tune wiki. It never displays the right album artwork.
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Funny it does for me. Best player out there right now. Coreplayer should be coming out with one soon for android.

Perrosky said:
Is there any Developer working in a new audio player, with a lot of new features including just play songs from the folder you select.
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AMEN! I Have been searching for a media player that could do that.
That is the ONLY thing I miss about my windows mobile phone is the windows media player!
I hope coreplayer can do this. Almost 80% of my songs are poorly tagged (ID3) and being able to play an entire folder would be perfect!

itunes songs onto diamond

Does anyone know the easiest way to put songs purchased through itunes, which means they are copyright protected, onto the diamond.

hhmmm apple don't copy protect songs anymore all stuff is unDRM utunes plus these days
I use coreplayer as player because some other players have problems with some m4a files not sure why
I use itune agent to sync itune libs to my sdcard adds album art and that stuff too
and they also offer free converts for older DRM procted stuff one already have

Rudegar said:
hhmmm apple don't copy protect songs anymore all stuff is unDRM utunes plus these days
I use coreplayer as player because some other players have problems with some m4a files not sure why
I use itune agent to sync itune libs to my sdcard adds album art and that stuff too
and they also offer free converts for older DRM procted stuff one already have
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where do i find these free converts, as many of my songs are DRM portected

brivent said:
where do i find these free converts, as many of my songs are DRM portected
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try this http://www.doubletwist.com/

[Q] itunes

does anyone know how to put music thats on itunes one the music player of a hero i tried but when i go to play the sng it says that it doesnt play this file type

I use a program called double twist on my mac. It's not great but it gets the job done. I think it supports Windows now too.
Could also bee cause your music is all aac files and Idk if the hero will play those. Google it. If not you'll have to convert your library to mp3 or a compatible type.
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doingitdaily said:
does anyone know how to put music thats on itunes one the music player of a hero i tried but when i go to play the sng it says that it doesnt play this file type
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The only way I know of would be to burn an audio CD and then rip it with your computer as an MP3 or similar format the Hero music player can support. The audio format of iTunes is a protected format and without some unique software tricks you cannot directly import these files into another player.

I use itunes agent....double twist does not seem to sync all songs at times, it is quite haphazard for me

You could drag and drop the music from the folder on your computer to the Music folder on your sd card, that's usually what I do, and it works a little better for me than a sync program.
I've used doubletwist and it always syncs really rally slow for me. I love the doubletwist app on android, but the desktop app is terrible for me. When you put the music on your sd card whatever music app you use should read it and load out into your library automatically.
That Being said, do you know what file format up have?
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foolforfood said:
You could drag and drop the music from the folder on your computer to the Music folder on your sd card, that's usually what I do, and it works a little better for me than a sync program.
I've used doubletwist and it always syncs really rally slow for me. I love the doubletwist app on android, but the desktop app is terrible for me. When you put the music on your sd card whatever music app you use should read it and load out into your library automatically.
That Being said, do you know what file format up have?
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thats how i was doing it and it wouldnt play when i went to my music player on the phone and i found a program called salling and it syncs it but doesnt sync the album that wont play in the first place so i think its the file type that keeping it from playing

If your music is protected then you wont be able to drag and drop it on your sd card. As far as i know, iTunes no longer sells their music that way. Ctrl+i (Cmd +i for mac) will tell you what format your music is in. Under summary it will say either "Protected AAC Audio File" or "Purchased AAC Audio File". I have no problem with the Purchased files but I do with the protected. Hope this helps!

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If your music is protected then you wont be able to drag and drop it on your sd card. As far as i know, iTunes no longer sells their music that way. Ctrl+i (Cmd +i for mac) will tell you what format your music is in. Under summary it will say either "Protected AAC Audio File" or "Purchased AAC Audio File". I have no problem with the Purchased files but I do with the protected. Hope this helps!
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Any idea if its possible to convert the protected aac to a purchased aac format? I ask because aac is usually much smaller than mp3 and before I knew that aac would not play on most players I let iTunes convert all my mp3's to aac in order to save space.

[Q] Why are m4a files ripped from CD not playing?

Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!

m4a AAC vs m4a ALAC
The HTC One specs do indicate that it supports m4a, but Apple's m4a lossless (aka. ALAC) is not the same as a 'normal' m4a format. As per Wikipedia:
Apple Lossless is not a variant of AAC (which is a lossy format), but rather a distinct lossless format...
This seems to say the two formats (m4a AAC and m4a ALAC) are as different as MP3 vs FLAC media, but Apple decided to use the m4a extension for both distinct proprietary formats.
You will need a music player that has a codec that supports m4a ALAC: PowerAmp supports m4a ALAC and it is much better than the built-in HTC player or Google Music. There are others in GooglePlay store; search for 'alac'

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The HTC One specs do indicate that it supports m4a, but Apple's m4a lossless (aka. ALAC) is not the same as a 'normal' m4a format. As per Wikipedia:
Apple Lossless is not a variant of AAC (which is a lossy format), but rather a distinct lossless format...
This seems to say the two formats (m4a AAC and m4a ALAC) are as different as MP3 vs FLAC media, but Apple decided to use the m4a extension for both distinct proprietary formats.
You will need a music player that has a codec that supports m4a ALAC: PowerAmp supports m4a ALAC and it is much better than the built-in HTC player or Google Music. There are others in GooglePlay store; search for 'alac'
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Aaaaah, thanks Broo! After reading this I went back and checked the info in iTunes for the songs that were and weren't working... for some reason I thought the purchased/downloaded were all apple lossless, but they're "Purchased AAC". I don't know how I got confused with that (it WAS 2am when I was trying to figure this out last night, lol)
I've used poweramp a bit, but wasn't crazy about it.. mayhaps I'll have to try it again.
Thanks again!

M4A file format
humangobo said:
Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!
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I just went through this today. HTC tech support insists that even though the specifications say that the HTC One will play various formats it really requires MP3 to play correctly. My HTC One would play M4A but it would skip through the songs only playing a second or so on each one. I used iTunes to convert all of the m4a files to mp3 files and then moved them to the HTC One. They all play fine but I have not had a chance to see if it corrected the music player skipping problem. I really think the skipping problem is associated with Electromagnetic Interference since it does not happen when the phone is on my desks but it happens every time when I am outside walking around in a varying electronic environment.
Would have been nice for HTC to post some sort of notice about the MP3 issue but that would have caused problems with sales I suspect.
The conversion to MP3 is not too difficult but it is time consuming. The iTunes help will walk you through it. You can just convert them to your existing directory structure and then cut and paste into the HTC One /internal storage/Music directory but I created a different directory on my computer and then imported to there so I would not have to sort through all of the myriad iTunes/iTunesMedia/Music directories.

bennywhite said:
I just went through this today. HTC tech support insists that even though the specifications say that the HTC One will play various formats it really requires MP3 to play correctly. My HTC One would play M4A but it would skip through the songs only playing a second or so on each one. I used iTunes to convert all of the m4a files to mp3 files and then moved them to the HTC One. They all play fine but I have not had a chance to see if it corrected the music player skipping problem. I really think the skipping problem is associated with Electromagnetic Interference since it does not happen when the phone is on my desks but it happens every time when I am outside walking around in a varying electronic environment.
Would have been nice for HTC to post some sort of notice about the MP3 issue but that would have caused problems with sales I suspect.
The conversion to MP3 is not too difficult but it is time consuming. The iTunes help will walk you through it. You can just convert them to your existing directory structure and then cut and paste into the HTC One /internal storage/Music directory but I created a different directory on my computer and then imported to there so I would not have to sort through all of the myriad iTunes/iTunesMedia/Music directories.
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Actually, I've managed to quickly and easily convert all those files I was having issues with to AAC versions, and they work like a charm! It's true, HTC should be a bit more specific with the file formats supported, but technically they do play m4a (all mine now work fine, since converting from ALAC codec to AAC), they just need to be a bit more specific about what codecs of m4a it'll play. Poweramp did work fine, which is awesome, but then I want to use some of the songs as ringtones or alarm sounds, and they weren't supported, thus the decision to just convert them all.. It'll save me a bit more space on the phone this way too
That's quite an odd problem you're having though, with the songs skipping... I wouldn't even know where to begin troubleshooting that! Maybe a short in your headphones? Could be sending a bad signal to the phone telling it to skip...?

HTC One Earphone Issue
humangobo said:
Actually, I've managed to quickly and easily convert all those files I was having issues with to AAC versions, and they work like a charm! It's true, HTC should be a bit more specific with the file formats supported, but technically they do play m4a (all mine now work fine, since converting from ALAC codec to AAC), they just need to be a bit more specific about what codecs of m4a it'll play. Poweramp did work fine, which is awesome, but then I want to use some of the songs as ringtones or alarm sounds, and they weren't supported, thus the decision to just convert them all.. It'll save me a bit more space on the phone this way too
That's quite an odd problem you're having though, with the songs skipping... I wouldn't even know where to begin troubleshooting that! Maybe a short in your headphones? Could be sending a bad signal to the phone telling it to skip...?
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It has taken me a week to resolve this issue. Tried resolving some issues with the file structure on the phone, where the music files are stored on both the phone and in iTunes, trying working with HTC Sync Manager, uninstalled and reinstalled it, could not get it to work correctly, converted all of the files to MP3 format and finally flushed the cache. Nothing resolved the problem. This morning I changed earphones from an iPod earphone I had been using to the HTC earphone that came in the box with the HTC phone. Works as advertised.
The iPod earphone jack and the HTC earphone jack appear almost identical. However, the HTC earphone jack is about 1 mm longer than the iPod jack. Thus, it appears to me that that minor difference in earphone jack may be the problem or there is a possibility that the iPod earphone wires are not shielded and the HTC earphone wires are but I strongly suspect that it is that 1 mm of jack length difference that made the iPod phone not quite making sufficient contact and that was causing a spurious input to the music player.

bennywhite said:
It has taken me a week to resolve this issue. Tried resolving some issues with the file structure on the phone, where the music files are stored on both the phone and in iTunes, trying working with HTC Sync Manager, uninstalled and reinstalled it, could not get it to work correctly, converted all of the files to MP3 format and finally flushed the cache. Nothing resolved the problem. This morning I changed earphones from an iPod earphone I had been using to the HTC earphone that came in the box with the HTC phone. Works as advertised.
The iPod earphone jack and the HTC earphone jack appear almost identical. However, the HTC earphone jack is about 1 mm longer than the iPod jack. Thus, it appears to me that that minor difference in earphone jack may be the problem or there is a possibility that the iPod earphone wires are not shielded and the HTC earphone wires are but I strongly suspect that it is that 1 mm of jack length difference that made the iPod phone not quite making sufficient contact and that was causing a spurious input to the music player.
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Aaaahh, yes had I known you were using iPod headphones, I would have said that's the culprit right away! When i first went android with the HTC One X+, I had a pair of skullcandy earbuds made for iPhone that didn't quite have the same problem as you, but were an issue nonetheless. I tried just a pair of regular headphones and worked fantastically. Since then I either get regular headphones without the mic/remote, or i just started using the HTC ones, which seem surprisingly good for a pair of packaged earbuds. Glad you got it sorted!
<edit> also, If I'm not mistaken, Apple wires theirs slightly differently, so even if the lengths were the same, the connections would be whacky and cause issues. "Think Different" they say...

humangobo said:
Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!
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If you just rename the file extension to mp3 it may work. I had and m4r file which is an iPhone ringtone format and just changed the extension and my HTC One used it no bother.
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I have develop an android APP "CD Ripper" to rip CD to WAV or MP3 , you can try it on GOOGLE PLAY :
What's the CD Ripper
CD Ripper is the first FREE CD ripping APP of the Android.
It can rip CD tracks to lossless or compressed music files.
Why to use CD Ripper
- We have many CD discs with favorite musics
- Before , We can play them with Discman or Microsystem
- Now , We want to play those musics in mobiles
- Use the CD Ripper to rip CD tracks to WAV or MP3 files
How to use CD Ripper
- Connect the USB CD reader (Optical Drive) and power with OTG cable
- Connect the mobile to OTG cable
- Click "Load CD" to load CD
- Show CD tracks (TOC) after finish loading
- Click "Rip WAV" to rip those tracks to WAV files
- Or Click "Rip MP3" to rip those tracks to MP3 files
- Click "Save As" to save your WAV/MP3 folder with the special name