[Q] kindle fire Hd 7 - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently purchased a kindle fire hd 7 version 7.3.1 which i am looking to install cm10.1 on. i have read through many threads and have download all the needed files to undertake this project. the only problem that i have encountered which proves to be very troublesome is loading my kindle into fastboot mode. can any one help me with this problem? thank you.

Why are u trying to get into fast boot mode? You should only need adb to back it up then use fire flash to put 2nd bootloader and twrp on it, then transfer over the cm 10.1 images for flashing from twrp. That's it in a nutshell. Fast boot it only for if you brick it in the process, which in most cases you will need a factory cable to get it into fast boot mode.
To be more specific about this read seokhuns awesome guide, but follow it to the tee or u may get a red screen on your bootloader to which you will need a factory cable to fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
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stunts513 said:
Why are u trying to get into fast boot mode? You should only need adb to back it up then use fire flash to put 2nd bootloader and twrp on it, then transfer over the cm 10.1 images for flashing from twrp. That's it in a nutshell. Fast boot it only for if you brick it in the process, which in most cases you will need a factory cable to get it into fast boot mode.
To be more specific about this read seokhuns awesome guide, but follow it to the tee or u may get a red screen on your bootloader to which you will need a factory cable to fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
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thank you. i have done some reading and it says that fire flash supports 7.3.0 but i am running 7.3.1 ... will this work properly or will it brick my device?

kodie. said:
thank you. i have done some reading and it says that fire flash supports 7.3.0 but i am running 7.3.1 ... will this work properly or will it brick my device?
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i did take the risk and try it and it did work twrp in successfully installed now im trying to install cm10.1 after i wipe the system, factory reset cache, Dalvik cache and proceed to installing cm10.1 it says failed.. can you help me? thanks

After u have the zip file on your sdcard I suggest using es file explorer to check the files properties and calculate its md5sum and compare it to the md5sum on the download link. If they match up then it should be working, if not it just didn't probably transfer or DL right.
U will probably need to flash a modded stock image of kindle os if you didn't back up your os first, so your kindle has an os to boot into. By modded stock image I mean that on the kindle android development forums there are a few modded stocks that come rooted without reflashing the stock boot loader and recovery plus have ota disabled. Makes things easier so you don't need to reflash the boot loader and twrp and reroot.
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stunts513 said:
After u have the zip file on your sdcard I suggest using es file explorer to check the files properties and calculate its md5sum and compare it to the md5sum on the download link. If they match up then it should be working, if not it just didn't probably transfer or DL right.
U will probably need to flash a modded stock image of kindle os if you didn't back up your os first, so your kindle has an os to boot into. By modded stock image I mean that on the kindle android development forums there are a few modded stocks that come rooted without reflashing the stock boot loader and recovery plus have ota disabled. Makes things easier so you don't need to reflash the boot loader and twrp and reroot.
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thanks kindle fire up and running cm10.1 and google appps .. i change my usb cable and re downloaded the files and then it worked

Many work with cm10.1 kfhd7 of Hashcode .

I installed 2nd bootloader on 7.3.1 but I forgot to disable auto-updates and I woke up to 7.4.3 and lost root and 2nd boot. I managed to root It again but i'm kinda scared to install the bootloader. I think I'm gonna wait until someone verifies and it's ok.

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Bootloop After Flashing Freedom Bootloader

I'm on version 7.4.6 and I flashed the 7.2.3 bootloader, followed by the Freedom Boot 7.4.3 and TWRP 2.6.0.0 - Followed instructions to the T in HashCode's how-to thread. I ended up in a constant reboot to TWRP. I restored back to the images I made in fastboot without a hitch, and now I'm left wondering what could have happened. Any ideas? I did apply the override stack and all of those other things mentioned beforehand.
Well I think I read something about the latest os detecting twrp and not wanting to let you boot I to it but I am not positive if that's what happened.
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For some reason, it appears that the device disagrees to boot onto the stock ROM after you flash a custom recovery (As you said above). My solution was simply to flash a ROM
I'm left feeling kind of dumb for posting this thread haha
I'm starting to wonder if they are must wanting us to brick our kindles at this point, I mean having twrp doesn't mean that we are definitely going to flash a custom ROM, it could mean we want to have insurance against a brick by making a backup, don't know why they see the need to not boot up if we have twrp.
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stunts513 said:
Well I think I read something about the latest os detecting twrp and not wanting to let you boot I to it but I am not positive if that's what happened.
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I believe the existence of Kinology should pretty much disprove this theory.

[Q] Stuck in TWRP

Kindle Fire HD 7". Rooted. Was running 7.4.7 Installed TWRP and 2nd bootloader and now am stuck in TWRP. Made back up first but says file is not recognized now (of course) Tried reboot, everything. Can't get out of TWRP. When booting, goes to orange kindle sreen, then blue, then orange, then loads TWRP. And this is where I'm stuck. Help appreciated - thanks. And please be nice - I'm a newb!
Follow this tutorial and it should have it working soon, the latest os won't boot with 2nd boot loader installed, unless you rip off kinology's freedom boot IMG.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459498
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stunts513 said:
Follow this tutorial and it should have it working soon, the latest os won't boot with 2nd boot loader installed, unless you rip off kinology's freedom boot IMG.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459498
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Tried that - everytime I try to load the drivers it says the files are bad and it won't recognize my device
Are you on windows 8? Because if its saying something about the signature, you have to disable signature enforcement. If you give me an exact error I can be more helpful.
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stunts513 said:
Are you on windows 8? Because if its saying something about the signature, you have to disable signature enforcement. If you give me an exact error I can be more helpful.
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Yes, I am on windows 8. Error message:
Windows encountered a problem installing the driver software for your device
Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it
Android ADB Interface
The hash for the file is not present in the specified catalog file. The file is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering.
thanks
You need to disable windows 8 driver signature enforcement, look it up on Google, once you have done that it should install just fine.
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stunts513 said:
You need to disable windows 8 driver signature enforcement, look it up on Google, once you have done that it should install just fine.
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Got it! Woohoo! Thank so much!
stunts513 said:
You need to disable windows 8 driver signature enforcement, look it up on Google, once you have done that it should install just fine.
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one more question - I'm running CM10.1 now - but what if want to get back to stock?
There's a stock ROM in the development section, just wipe the same things you wiped before flashing cm( factory reset, cache, dalvik cache, and system), then flash the stock ROM.
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Sorry , did I read ok? You was running 7.4.7? 7.4.7 Works with TWRP now a day? What versión?
bbmaniac32 said:
Sorry , did I read ok? You was running 7.4.7? 7.4.7 Works with TWRP now a day? What versión?
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You really should downgrade to 7.2.3 before attempting to flash TWRP and 2nd bootloader. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347170

[Q] How to install TWRP Recovery on KFHD7 with stock rom?

I have a Kindle Fire HD 7 (7.4.6) rooted and I want to know if there's a way that I can install the TWRP Recovery without flashing any rom at the moment and most important without bricking it. I want to have it installed in case that in a future I want to flash a rom. I think it's a must have tool on this device but I'm not quite sure if it's possible and I don't want to try how-to's that I've read in these forums because it's not what I'm looking for and I don't want to mess up the KF . Any help or advice on this will be very appreciated. :angel:
There is a way but you have to do 1 of 2 things outside of what the standard tutorial says. The newer is checks the boot loader for its version to see if it matches with the is version, if it mismatches it will cause a boot loop. So if you tried the default instructions, you would boot loop since you are on a 7.4.6 os, so you have 2 choices, downgrade the is first to the same as the freedom boot image in the tutorial, or download the latest kinology ROM which has a 7.4.6 freedom boot image inside it that for some reason isn't posted by itself last I check. If you download the kinology ROM you don't have to flash it to install that freedom boot image you can just extract it from the ROM and use it in place of the freedom boot the tutorial tells you to use. Take note of one last thing, make sure to check the box in fire flash at the top with red warning text under it about downgrading the boot loader or you will get stuck with a red screen and that requires a fastboot cable to fix. Anyways here's the tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
I suggest reading through it in its entirety to familiarize yourself. You also have a option for the lazier person, you can simply download the kinology ROM onto the device before flashing 2nd boot loader + twrp (because it will bootloop as I previously mentioned) and first make a backup of data and system, then flash the kinology ROM, then restore your backup you just made. In theory I think that will work.
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stunts513 said:
There is a way but you have to do 1 of 2 things outside of what the standard tutorial says. The newer is checks the boot loader for its version to see if it matches with the is version, if it mismatches it will cause a boot loop. So if you tried the default instructions, you would boot loop since you are on a 7.4.6 os, so you have 2 choices, downgrade the is first to the same as the freedom boot image in the tutorial, or download the latest kinology ROM which has a 7.4.6 freedom boot image inside it that for some reason isn't posted by itself last I check. If you download the kinology ROM you don't have to flash it to install that freedom boot image you can just extract it from the ROM and use it in place of the freedom boot the tutorial tells you to use. Take note of one last thing, make sure to check the box in fire flash at the top with red warning text under it about downgrading the boot loader or you will get stuck with a red screen and that requires a fastboot cable to fix. Anyways here's the tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
I suggest reading through it in its entirety to familiarize yourself. You also have a option for the lazier person, you can simply download the kinology ROM onto the device before flashing 2nd boot loader + twrp (because it will bootloop as I previously mentioned) and first make a backup of data and system, then flash the kinology ROM, then restore your backup you just made. In theory I think that will work.
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Thanks for the response, I'm trying that... but before I do this... I want to make sure I'm on the right track. I copied three files on the main kindle directory (fireflash11.apk, kfhd7-freedom-boot-7.4.6.img and kfhd7-twrp-2.6.3.1-recovery.img). I've installed the Fire Flash and now... I'm seeing the interface to flash the boot partition and recovery partition, and the bootloader says the warning thing that the bootloader is not kfhd7-u-boot-prod-7.2.3.bin. That last part is where I'm stuck in... I don't know if checking the box will mess up my kindle... so far, I know that I had to check the "apply stack override", "disable recovery auto update", then unplug cable and hit flash. I'm not sure if I'm still needing the kinology rom since I've downloaded the freedom boot from hashcode.
stunts513 said:
There is a way but you have to do 1 of 2 things outside of what the standard tutorial says. The newer is checks the boot loader for its version to see if it matches with the is version, if it mismatches it will cause a boot loop. So if you tried the default instructions, you would boot loop since you are on a 7.4.6 os, so you have 2 choices, downgrade the is first to the same as the freedom boot image in the tutorial, or download the latest kinology ROM which has a 7.4.6 freedom boot image inside it that for some reason isn't posted by itself last I check. If you download the kinology ROM you don't have to flash it to install that freedom boot image you can just extract it from the ROM and use it in place of the freedom boot the tutorial tells you to use. Take note of one last thing, make sure to check the box in fire flash at the top with red warning text under it about downgrading the boot loader or you will get stuck with a red screen and that requires a fastboot cable to fix. Anyways here's the tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
I suggest reading through it in its entirety to familiarize yourself. You also have a option for the lazier person, you can simply download the kinology ROM onto the device before flashing 2nd boot loader + twrp (because it will bootloop as I previously mentioned) and first make a backup of data and system, then flash the kinology ROM, then restore your backup you just made. In theory I think that will work.
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Wait, so if you were to install 7.4.6 freedomboot, it would bootloop? Why?
x10knight said:
Wait, so if you were to install 7.4.6 freedomboot, it would bootloop? Why?
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Because they were running 7.4.6 so the 7.4.6 bootloader is a match. The problem is that the exploit was patched at 7.3.0 so one really should downgrade to 7.2.3 first because sometimes clicking flash 7.2.3 bootloader while using FireFlash app does not work and you get a bootloop anyway. It's best to drag and drop a ROM onto the internal sd card before flashing. If you do bootloop, just go into TWRP and flash the ROM.
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Wait, so if you were to install 7.4.6 freedomboot, it would bootloop? Why?
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I'm new and a complete noob to this, I'm running 7.4.6, can someone please explain freedom boot and if it would be possible for me to get a custom Rom loaded on my tablet without downgrading to 7.2.3?
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Freedom boot if I understand correctly is a patch to the kernel used for second bootloader, I believe it also has version data stored in it that the kindle is checks on boot, if the kernel doesn't match the kindle os version it boot loops into recovery. So yes you can do all without downgrading the os, its just suggested you do because amazon patched the boot loader a while back and downgrading ensures you don't boot loop in case you have an older freedom boot image or you are on 7.4.7. Its probably also flashes the old boot loader too which helps. Never used kffa so not positive about that though.
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So how do you suggest I go about flashing my custom Rom, I don't want to downgrade and I want to use fireflash preferable?
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I prefer the fire flash method but if you or the program mess up and don't flash the boot loader with the older version first, you will need a fastboot cable to fix it. I haven't ever had a problem with fire flash myself, as long as you check the first box with a bunch of red warning text under it you should be OK.
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I prefer the fire flash method but if you or the program mess up and don't flash the boot loader with the older version first, you will need a fastboot cable to fix it. I haven't ever had a problem with fire flash myself, as long as you check the first box with a bunch of red warning text under it you should be OK.
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Thanks figured it out on my own before your post but it's the thought that counts lol your post will help others tho, I was a complete noob it was actually easier than what I thought, I'm running CM11 right now
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So... what I should do... run the fire flash app checking that box about the warning of boot loader... and put the files in place and check the "apply stack override" and that's it? I'm getting confused because the post went out of topic...
gracielatf said:
So... what I should do... run the fire flash app checking that box about the warning of boot loader... and put the files in place and check the "apply stack override" and that's it? I'm getting confused because the post went out of topic...
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First, drag and drop what ever ROM you are going to use onto the root of the internal SD card (CM, Paranoid Android, which ever one). This is important. If you do loop, access TWRP and flash the ROM.
Make sure to put the images in the right place, tick "apply stack override" and also tick "disable recovery auto update" and also chaeck "7.2.3 bootloader."
Here is the original tutorial as well for your reference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
Edit: when you do go to flash the ROM from TWRP you first "swipe" then flash the ROM and then wipe only Dalvic and CACHE.
LinearEquation said:
First, drag and drop what ever ROM you are going to use onto the root of the internal SD card (CM, Paranoid Android, which ever one). This is important. If you do loop, access TWRP and flash the ROM.
Make sure to put the images in the right place, tick "apply stack override" and also tick "disable recovery auto update" and also chaeck "7.2.3 bootloader."
Here is the original tutorial as well for your reference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
Edit: when you do go to flash the ROM from TWRP you first "swipe" then flash the ROM and then wipe only Dalvic and CACHE.
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Got it, wish me luck! :cyclops:
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Got it, wish me luck! :cyclops:
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Good luck!
Well... that was fast. I didn't need the Kinology ROM, but I downloaded and dragged it to the Kindle, just in case it boot loop and so have the rom as backup. Just needed the three fiiles. I'll place the instructions clearly just in case anyone wants to do this and worked perfectly for me.
Download:
fireflash11.apk,
kfhd7-freedom-boot-7.4.6.img and
kfhd7-twrp-2.6.3.1-recovery.img.
Copy or Drag & Drop the three files to Kindle Fire HD 7". Make sure to have ON the "allow installations of applications" options found in drop down window (More+ -> Device). Then install the fireflash11.apk, after installation, open the app, if you got the warning message, check the box on the right, then place the kfhd7-freedom-boot-7.4.6.img in the "boot partition" section and tick "apply stack override", then the kfhd7-twrp-2.6.3.1-recovery.img in the "recovery partition" section and tick "disable recovery auto update". Unplug your KFHD7 from the USB, then hit Flash, and that's it! :victory:
No ROM needed, but in case you want like to go in "safe mode" like I did, download the Kinology ROM found here.

Kindle Fire HD Corrupted need help

Hi guys, my kindle fire hd is rooted or i think its rooted, for some reason though i cant wipe it
the os is corrupted and needs a full wipe and reinstall to fix but here is the problem.
i cant wipe the os... for some reason the internal SDCARD is read only and wont erase.
i cant copy files to the sdcard via windows as it says read only i cant delete files from the sdcard.....
when i run a full wipe via recovery it shows that its wipeing but it does not really wipe...
everytime i install a rom it says complete i reboot and its still trying to load the corrupted os not a fresh install ....
im stuck here.
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Hi guys, my kindle fire hd is rooted or i think its rooted, for some reason though i cant wipe it
the os is corrupted and needs a full wipe and reinstall to fix but here is the problem.
i cant wipe the os... for some reason the internal SDCARD is read only and wont erase.
i cant copy files to the sdcard via windows as it says read only i cant delete files from the sdcard.....
when i run a full wipe via recovery it shows that its wipeing but it does not really wipe...
everytime i install a rom it says complete i reboot and its still trying to load the corrupted os not a fresh install ....
im stuck here.
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Did you give ES File Explorer r/w permissions? If you are flat out stuck then you will need to restore via fastboot and will need to pick up a fastboot cord.
Edit: Make sure you're using the most up to date TWRP from Hashcode's thread too.
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yeah im going to need the factory cable damn lol
i have TWRP 2.6.0.0 installed.
also i cant remember what generation fire hd i have and cant get into the os to see the system information going to need that cable
do you know of any cheap places in the uk that sell it ?
and es file explorer i cant access as i cant get in to os.... all i can do is adb commands via adb sideload
i can access TWRP 2.6.0.0 but nothing works in there or i cant get to work ect.
ViRuS3k said:
yeah im going to need the factory cable damn lol
i have TWRP 2.6.0.0 installed.
also i cant remember what generation fire hd i have and cant get into the os to see the system information going to need that cable
do you know of any cheap places in the uk that sell it ?
and es file explorer i cant access as i cant get in to os.... all i can do is adb commands via adb sideload
i can access TWRP 2.6.0.0 but nothing works in there or i cant get to work ect.
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The newest TWRP for the Kindle Series is 2.6.3.1 You're version is a little dated. Unfortunately you can't flash TWRP in TWRP.
These guys ship pretty fast http://shop.teamblackhat.info/Factory-Adapters-motadapt.htm it's an adapter for the end of your USB cord. Don't suppose you have a Motorola USB cord laying around? Because that's all a fastboot cord is.
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When in twrp can you hit reboot then hit fastboot? If you can and it goes into fastboot you can verify what kindle it is with "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and it will read the codename of the kindle.
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yeah that works and shows fastboot,
anything i plug in though shows the kindle in windows device manager as Tate-08 or something like that when i plug in a usb cable when in fastboot.. and when i run any adb commands like : ADB DEVICES nothing is listed.
That's because adb commands don't work with fastboot. Tate indeed means its a 2012 HD 7" model, so it is possible in its current state to fix without a fastboot cable, but if anything goes wrong you will need one. Go into the hd7 dev section and download the 2.7.0.0 twrp flash able zip and open it in windows, from there navigate into the cache folder and find the .IMG file, extract it to wherever fastboot is stored, from there I think you just can flash it via fastboot and have a working recovery. Something like "fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery *insert twrp image name here*"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51121142
stunts513 said:
That's because adb commands don't work with fastboot. Tate indeed means its a 2012 HD 7" model, so it is possible in its current state to fix without a fastboot cable, but if anything goes wrong you will need one. Go into the hd7 dev section and download the 2.7.0.0 twrp flash able zip and open it in windows, from there navigate into the cache folder and find the .IMG file, extract it to wherever fastboot is stored, from there I think you just can flash it via fastboot and have a working recovery. Something like "fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery *insert twrp image name here*"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51121142
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thanks for the help guys, i contacted amazon where it was purchased and explained the issues and they sent me out another one free of charge in advance, i recived the brand new kindle and sent the broken one back to them.
was very nice of them to replace it

[Q] Twrp

I have rooted my kindle fire hd 7 Version 7.4.9 I want to install Twrp and possibly a 2nd bootloader the issue I have is I`m not sure what to use I cant seem to find much info on version 7.4.9 and I want to do this the correct way. I do have a fastboot cable I just want to make sure I use the correct files, will I have to downgrade the kindle to 7.4.6?
lillygrl321 said:
I have rooted my kindle fire hd 7 Version 7.4.9 I want to install Twrp and possibly a 2nd bootloader the issue I have is I`m not sure what to use I cant seem to find much info on version 7.4.9 and I want to do this the correct way. I do have a fastboot cable I just want to make sure I use the correct files, will I have to downgrade the kindle to 7.4.6?
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The fail-safe way is to downgrade it all the way to 7.2.3. Then,just flash freedom boot and TWRP.
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SafinWasi said:
The fail-safe way is to downgrade it all the way to 7.2.3. Then,just flash freedom boot and TWRP.
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Ok I tried to downgrade it several times to 7.2.3 but after the kindle reboots under device it says 7.4.9 I don't understand why it doesn't downgrade.
makes no sense.... Thanks for replying back.
If you downgraded with kffa or SRT it shouldn't have done that, basically as long as you have root access you can install 2nd bootloader + twrp, just use the fire flash method that downgrades the bootloader first and it should work fine.

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