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I recently got my new Renault Scenic car and discovered a rather strange situation.
The phone pairs with the carkit and connects the first time without issues and works like a charm.
But however when I start the car and thus also the carkit the phone connects also but no audio is heared trough the carkit when calling or getting called. The phone says it transfers the connection to the carkit but nothing is heared.
It only works when I have bluetooth off, starts the car and then turning bluetooth on the phone on. Wait till it connects and make a call. With this procedure the connection is good till I step out the car.
Its a work around but hmmm not the one i would love to.
I have a nexus one rooted with the latest MCR (21) and an intersect kernel. Though I tried different kernels also but no go.
Hopefully one of you guys have an idea
Ok I searched a bit and found out the Bluetooth is done with the opensource code Bluez. So I wonder which version of Bluez is in the froyo roms and how it can be updated if possible to a new version.
Anyone knows ?
I feel your pain, I have a Renault Grand Scenic III (purchased last December) and the hands-free is unreliable, but music streaming (A2DP) is even worse as most often than not it will fail to connect.
I have to say that the hands-free works fine most of the times (for the phone part, not for music), but some days it will refuse to work no matter what. Since it isn't working much better with my wife's Nokia (BTW, which I had to do a firmware update or else it went into a permanent reboot loop when connected to the car-kit), I assume the problem lies on the car, not on the phone. I have yet to see if my Hero, which has been recently updated to Android 2.1, behaves any better. A firmware update on the Bluetooth car-kit seems a better approach, but I'm unaware if one exists since after some digging it seems my car doesn't use the OEM Parrot kit that other earlier models carried.
igalan said:
I feel your pain, I have a Renault Grand Scenic III (purchased last December) and the hands-free is unreliable, but music streaming (A2DP) is even worse as most often than not it will fail to connect.
I have to say that the hands-free works fine most of the times (for the phone part, not for music), but some days it will refuse to work no matter what. Since it isn't working much better with my wife's Nokia (BTW, which I had to do a firmware update or else it went into a permanent reboot loop when connected to the car-kit), I assume the problem lies on the car, not on the phone. I have yet to see if my Hero, which has been recently updated to Android 2.1, behaves any better. A firmware update on the Bluetooth car-kit seems a better approach, but I'm unaware if one exists since after some digging it seems my car doesn't use the OEM Parrot kit that other earlier models carried.
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Hi,
I've just come across your post. Did the situation improve ?
I'd just point out that for me it comes from the Android system : I own a Renault Mégane 3 and was able to fully use the bluetooth system with my HTC HD2 (Windows Mobile 6.5). Now, I've just installed Android 2.2 on it and I encounter a similar behavior... and the car can't connect to the phone directory either...
Looks like I'll boot back on Windows Mobile when driving...
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Stéphane
My Hero with the official 2.1 ROM is now 100% reliable. The Nexus One with Froyo isn't, A2DP is still hit & miss.
Well... I'm getting the same but not with Renault ones.
I have LiquidAUX on my car and to have both phone and a2dp synced, I have to restart phone BT and LiquidAUX every time I go into car. And most of the times I can only have 1 connection each time, or phone is on and a2dp is off or a2dp is on and phone is off. It's really annoying since I had an HTC Hero with Android 2.2 and it used to work with no problems...
Hello, I've the same issue with my new Renault and Nexus LG. The phone pairs with the carkit and connects the first time without issues and works like fine. Once someone calls, the connection is terrible or lost! I checked the phone compatibility list at Reanoult and the NEXUS LG is on that list. So it should work. Updated R-link2, same issue. I went to the Renault garage and they told me that this is a bug in the Renault software, they can't do anything about it. Can't believe this, there should be a solution or fix.
Okay, so lots of people have problems with their bluetooth. I am too. I have a JVC KW-XR810 car stereo and the bluetooth keeps shutting down on one or the other. My questions are:
Does anyone else have this stereo and problem? If so, whats the situation?
Is there a ROM that works flawlessly (or close to) with the bluetooth?
Its odd though, that my headset works perfectly and I didn't have many problems with another stereo I've used. Makes me wonder if its the stereo or the phone. Still, many others have bluetooth problems with this phone...
Thanks for any responses.
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My last 3 phones (including this one) have all worked flawlessly with my Sony MEX-BT3700 head unit. Phone calls, BT dialing, streaming music, all work perfectly.
Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
Must be a problem with Stock Froyo. Glad I'm not using it.
I've had this issue with certain roms I was running. I have a Kenwood KDC-X993. So far on CM7 it stayed connected.
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i have the same (or similar) problem with my OEM headunit on a VW Golf. BT randomly disconnects but my music (pandora) still plays through the BT stereo, unless I stop it. Then its completely disconnected and I'll have to reconnect the phone to the car.
annoying but I just deal with it.
I'm running Paragon 6 and have a Dual head unit. I haven't had any disconnect issues, my problem is the crappy Pandora app.
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Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
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Same here, I have a Parrot mki system in my car, but I found a workaround that I hope works for you too:
Unpair with the device, and when you re-pair it, when it asks you to synchronize contacts, do not let it. It will bug you every time it connects, but just ignore the requests.
I haven't had a single disconnect since doing this weeks ago.
I've read about the contacts request from other users but it doesn't happen with mine. Another thing, when I lose the connection and I turn off bt one the phone out shuts off. Completely. Pushing the power button does nothing. Holding the volume up and power buttons together for a few seconds seems to restart it but theres no animation. Just the lock screen, media scanner, etc. Maybe its restarting on its own and the button pushing has nothing to do with it. Also, I listened to my bt headset for hours last night with no probs at alI. Idk. Is bt different for head units? I thought it all used the same protocals.
So it seems that its not my head unit, but the phone. Are there any good solutions for us?
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My head unit never asks to download contacts. Could it be that some do because they store that info in order to identify and announce incoming calls? That would mean there's more going on than just a simple BT connection.
Yeah. One post I read said something about it using a data connection the hu for contacts. I have no idea what he was talking about though.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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The only purpose I can see for this is if the head unit has an integrated nav system. That would allow you to bring up a contact as a nav target independent of the phone.
Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly. There have been two replies saying that cm7 and paragon 6 have stable bt connections with head units. I read in another post that axura works as well. This is so frustrating that I'm just about willng to learn how to flash this thing.
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Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly.
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We have? My first post says I have zero issues with this on my head unit with my phone on Eclair, Froyo and now Andromeda. If it is a phone issue mine is not suffering from it. Sounds more like it has something to do with head units that store contact data. Mine apparently doesn't.
Hmmm.
Yet in your second post you posited that it must be a Froyo issue.
Regardless of whether it is the phone or OS, a lot of Captivate owners seem to have bt issues of one kind or another with various devices. Maybe this is just a bt issue in general that everyone deals with (not just Captivate owners) and I'm just being sensitive because I haven't had much bt exposure.
Any help is appreciated here. I'm just looking for suggestions on what to do short of buying a new phone or head unit. It would be great if other users experiencing this problem would benefit from the discussion as well.
So far it appears that flashing a different ROM may be a solution but which one? Is there any way to change only the bt stack?
Sorry if that sounded short, but I'm REALLY frustrated with this.
My hu will store contacts as most do these days, but it doesn't ask for them. I don't think the problem is related to the contacts. I guess its just a random incompatibility thing.
I said it "might" be a problem with stock Froyo. I didn't see it the 3 days I was running it and my current ROM is Froyo-based and working without issue. The only other variable I can see is that others posting problems have reported having to deny access to contacts, something my head unit never asks for, in order to get it to work. That would appear to indicate the difference is in the head units and not the phones, but unless I could connect to one of these other head units to verify, I'm only guessing. Sorry.
i notice that if I toggle the bluetooth on my phone right before connecting it to my car, it works flawlessly
Installed a Kenwood X994 and had all kinds of issues with BT. Worked for awhile but would never auto connect. Only vehicle and area where I had BT issues. I realized it was due to the downloading of contacts at every connect. sometimes it would download than immediately disconnect. frustrating. Was on serendipity, Tried a native Cappy ROM, Cognition and now Phoenix..
The unit has the Parrot system in it so it should be ok. Finally decided to update the Firmware on the HU. So far so good. I like the contact download so I don't need to use the phone at all to make a call. Receiving calls is no problem.
Will test further tomorrow.
BTW I have a BT Garmin mounted in the truck and used it before getting the head unit. no problems connecting. The only issue with that was a delay between pressing the call button and the call being made. Hanging up was an issue as well.
Any of you guys, who experience problems with your bluetooth headsets? I've got a Plantronics Discovery 925, which i've have paired, but the sound want passthrough it. When i pair it, it normally doesn't ask for the passcode, but have gotten it to, but either if it get the passcode or not, it's only working if i make a call directly after pairing it. After that, all other calls aren't pass through. I'm running on MaDaCo custom rom, but the problem was the same on stuck rom.
Works perfect A2DP using my Bury Hands free car kit 9020
seems like i got i working, have updated my baseband, but don't know if that could have had an effect on it. But quite happy to get it working
I didn't want to bog down any of the various ROM threads with this, but I've noticed some odd behavior when pairing my D4 to my JVC head unit.
With stock Moto ICS and Eclipse 1.3.2 (still ICS), when paired to the HU, I can voice dial and control Pandora. I can sort-of control Google Music, but it won't display the ID3 tag info for any of the music, and although I can skip tracks it never recognizes anything but the player being stopped.
Now, if I go to Hashcode's WIP unofficial CM10 port, the HU control of GMusic works completely (as does all the Pandora control). I get ID3 tags, it recognizes when the player is stopped, playing, paused, etc. Of course, the current state of the CM10 port has the same BT issues with the phone side of things that the D3 had early in its development.
So now I'm wondering why there's the difference with the GMusic control/ID3 info. Does anyone know if it's something in the ICS/JB framework, or is it something related to the BT stack? Or perhaps something else entirely?
edit: So it turns out stock ROMs from pretty much every manufacturer (maybe all of them) do not support AVRCP 1.3+, but CyanogenMod does. I'm currently loading Hashcode's stock CM9 to see how it fares.
edit 2: Apparently CM9 has the same BT phone issues as CM10, I hadn't realized that. I guess I'm stuck with stock/Eclipse with no tag info until CM10 matures a bit more.
It is amazing just how many problems that this Droid 4 has when it comes to Bluetooth, and everything else. I don't understand how they could release these phones with so many issues. I see it more of a false advertising deal that just goes unchecked. I have major issues with bluetooth, if I get call waiting it resets my bluetooth connection (to where I hear my BT headset replay its boot up music). Half the time I have to pair the headset, then turn off the BT section and then turn it on again just for it to work. I am also constantly repairing the headsets as well. My two motorcycle headsets also also not happy and do not play well with the Droid 4. These headsets all seem to work fine with my older phones, T-Mobile G1, G2, G2x, and my Acer Iconia A500 tablet as well.
Here are my Headsets:
Jawbone Icon(Current Edition sold at Costco)
Parrot SK4000
Cardo Scala Rider FM
Not sure if my list helps any with research going forward, but it is something.
Tom
Yeah, BT performance is all over the place between Moto-stock, stock-ish Eclipse/mybearfish, and CM9/10.
I noticed while driving around today that in addition to everything I mentioned already, Moto-stock will tell the head unit when I get a text message, but stock-ish Eclipse/mybearfish doesn't. IIRC CM10 wouldn't do it either, but that's not all that surprising given its alpha state now.
I'm at a point now where I might finally be willing to give up the HW keyboard and just get a GNex in a month or two after Google announces whatever the hell is going on with the next Nexus phone(s).
Eh, BT works flawlessly for me. If you aren't stock, you shouldn't complain about BT because it probably isn't Motorola's fault.
If you are stock, that try a factory reset (sorry ), and if it still doesn't work, get a replacement 'cause your stuff is broken (just make sure it isn't your headset first!)
Except it doesn't work "flawlessly" because Motorola didn't put in support for anything newer than AVRCP 1.0. No amount of resets and replacements will change that.
I've only rooted, so it is not that big of a deal. Still is it that hard to upgrade that bluetooth section to something newer? This was supposed to be their latest hardware keyboard phone.
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I've had my Nexus 6 since Jan. 1, upgrading from an HTC One M7 GPE running 5.0 Lollipop. I experienced Bluetooth connectivity issues with the HTC One after upgrading to 5.0L from 4.4KK, and I knew they were 5.0 related, so I expected somewhat of the same when getting the N6. My problem is, even after upgrading my N6 to 5.01 and then 5.1, most of my Bluetooth issues still exist. I'm trying to figure out if they are indeed software related, or if maybe I have a defective BT radio. I'm rooted, running stock 5.1 LMY47M, with ElementalX Kernel and Nova Launcher. Here is a list of the issues I'm having with my N6 and Bluetooth:
1. Constant dropped connection to my car's bluetooth. Will connect when car is first powered on, then drops connection after about 20 seconds only to reconnect 30 seconds after that, then drop again within 30 seconds. Sometimes it will connect and stay connected for hours. This issue didn't exist with my HTC One running 4.4KK, but did happen intermittently after upgrading it to 5.0L. This issue also doesn't seem to exist when connecting my wife's N5 running 5.1 LMY47D.
2. Problem #1 also seems to exist when connecting my N6 to my Nvidia Shield Tablet running 5.0L, but not as persistent as with Car BT.
3. When my N6 does connect to my Nvidia Shield Tablet, I can send messages using joaoapps' AutoRemote over Bluetooth from my N6 to my Tablet, but not from my Tablet to my N6. Both phone and tablet are configured correctly. This one has me completely stumped and I've spent hours troubleshooting it before just giving up.
3. Audio stuttering when connected to my BT headphones. Again no issue when using said headphones with HTC One 4.4KK or wife's N5 5.1 LMY47D.
3. Bluetooth seems to turn off randomly. At first I thought it was one of my Tasker profiles, but problem still exists even after uninstalling Tasker.
4. My N6 will not connect to my BT OBDII adapter. N6 pairs with adapter, but adapter does not work with Torque or any other ODBII app. HTC One 4.4KK, wife's N5 5.1 LMY47D, and my Nvidia Shield tablet running 5.0L all connect with no issue.
I have tried every suggestion on threads (Reboot, clear Bluetooth Share cache, clear Bluetooth Share Data, forget all connections and re-pair, Bluetooth Auto Connect app) with no luck. I love my N6, but I've hated these BT issues since day one and I've crossed my fingers with every Lollipop update that they would be resolved, to no avail. I'm wondering if anyone (or everyone) is experiencing similar issues with BT, or is it just my N6, and I should return it for a new one before warranty expires. Thanks.
I only use my N6 Bluetooth with my car (ford sync) and occasionally my home phone. I haven't had any issues. Use it everyday on my commute to and from work.
Since you're experiencing this with multiple devices id assume its you phone too. Maybe contact google for warranty replacement?
Are you by any chance wearing a smartwatch? I had similar problem with my OnePlus One and narrowed the problem down to my Moto 360 smartwatch connection. If I didn't have my smartwatch on while in the car, my auto connection worked fine.
Recently, I switched to a Nexus 6 and find bluetooth to be even worse with this phone. Seems as if the signal being broadcast is too weak. Headset audio will start to breakup, with a clear LOS, after just 10-12 ft. Also, just putting my phone in my pocket will case choppiness. With this phone, however, I have yet to determine whether it is my smartwatch that is causing the problems as well or not.
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Are you by any chance wearing a smartwatch? I had similar problem with my OnePlus One and narrowed the problem down to my Moto 360 smartwatch connection. If I didn't have my smartwatch on while in the car, my auto connection worked fine.
Recently, I switched to a Nexus 6 and find bluetooth to be even worse with this phone. Seems as if the signal being broadcast is too weak. Headset audio will start to breakup, with a clear LOS, after just 10-12 ft. Also, just putting my phone in my pocket will case choppiness. With this phone, however, I have yet to determine whether it is my smartwatch that is causing the problems as well or not.
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No, not using a smartwatch yet. Holding off on purchasing one until I can get this bluetooth mess figured out. I did another factory wipe and rolled back to 5.01, this time staying encrypted (used no force before). Seems to be a little more stable this time, although I have no way of telling if it's because of encryption or just luck. I think it's just coincidental, I don't see how encryption would have any effect either way. I applied the 5.1 update to LMY47M and so far much more stable than before. Again, I don't know why. I can say I am rather disappointed with Google and the Nexus 6. My wife's Nexus 5 is far more stable and I can't believe Google would allow a 'flagship' device to remain this buggy. I never had any of these issues with my HTC One. I traded up to the Nexus 6 for the Google experience, no bloatware, fast updates, etc., thinking that meant more stability. It seems that trading bloatware for the Nexus experience has an unexpected consequence of being a beta-tester for Google.
Bluetooth is different on the Nexus 6 for sure.
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No, not using a smartwatch yet. Holding off on purchasing one until I can get this bluetooth mess figured out. I did another factory wipe and rolled back to 5.01, this time staying encrypted (used no force before). Seems to be a little more stable this time, although I have no way of telling if it's because of encryption or just luck. I think it's just coincidental, I don't see how encryption would have any effect either way. I applied the 5.1 update to LMY47M and so far much more stable than before. Again, I don't know why. I can say I am rather disappointed with Google and the Nexus 6. My wife's Nexus 5 is far more stable and I can't believe Google would allow a 'flagship' device to remain this buggy. I never had any of these issues with my HTC One. I traded up to the Nexus 6 for the Google experience, no bloatware, fast updates, etc., thinking that meant more stability. It seems that trading bloatware for the Nexus experience has an unexpected consequence of being a beta-tester for Google.
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I also use Ford Sync system. For years it has been reliable and worked flawlessly. But starting with the Nexus 6, some of the common applications I use when mobile started crashing the bluetooth stack and giving the error, "Bluetooth Sharing as stopped working."
Before the Nexus 6 which is the first device I've owned with Lollipop, this never happened. The developer of the SMS texting app that is the main one affected by this, has tried everything to resolve the issue but he and I are now beginning to believe it is something baked either into the phone or lollipop, but before this device I never had any problems with bluetooth. I even went as far as to replace my HU in the car with the new pioneer that supports Android Auto, but to my chagrin, it still crashes on that head unit whenever the SMS reader trys to log off and switch back the stream to media. And unfortunately Android Auto currently does not support Pandora which is a must have for me. Pandora runs perfect on the new HU as it did on the Ford Sync as well, but the SMS reader causes BT sharing to error on both devices since the Nexus 6 and Lollipop, so there is something going on with the bluetooth stack and unfortunately no one I can find has any information about what has changed. Hoping Android Auto will soon add Pandora, but Pandora has not given any time estimation about when that will happen.
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Are you by any chance wearing a smartwatch? I had similar problem with my OnePlus One and narrowed the problem down to my Moto 360 smartwatch connection. If I didn't have my smartwatch on while in the car, my auto connection worked fine.
Recently, I switched to a Nexus 6 and find bluetooth to be even worse with this phone. Seems as if the signal being broadcast is too weak. Headset audio will start to breakup, with a clear LOS, after just 10-12 ft. Also, just putting my phone in my pocket will case choppiness. With this phone, however, I have yet to determine whether it is my smartwatch that is causing the problems as well or not.
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Funny that you mention that. Previously used my Nexus 6 in the car with no issues. Only thing that changed is that I started pairing with a smartwatch in addition, and now my Nexus 6 crashes a few minutes into using Spotify over bluetooth. Complete automatic reboot.
EDIT: Yep, can definitely confirm the combination of the smartwatch and bluetooth audio device kills my phone. Had no trouble without the smartwatch.
EDIT 2: Turns out Google just sucks at bluetooth. Phone can crash regardless, it's just more likely with the smartwatch.
EDIT 3: RMA'd the phone and the new one works perfectly. Turns out it wasn't the software after all, or maybe the watch update helped.
I don't know if this is the same issue or not, but....
Ever since I got my Nexus 6 I have had bluetooth issues with both my cars. One has a Pioneer headunit (2014 model, not Android Auto), the other is a 2014 Subaru Forester with stock head unit.
In both cases there are days when it works perfectly. Then there are other times when it's a nightmare.
With the Pioneer headunit, bluetooth audio will be playing for a brief period (maybe 30 seconds?) and then something will happen and the headunit will play a repeated beep (bing bing bing bing bing bing) till I turn off bluetooth on the phone, wait a minute or two and reconnect.
With the Forester's headunit, similar situation - i'll be playing audio and it will just drop out. Maybe 60 seconds later it may come back (sometimes). Same applies to telephone calls via the headunit with bluetooth.
The same 'issue' appears with both headunits with one playing a beep when it happens the other dead silence, but both dropping in and out whether it's bluetooth audio or a call.
N6 running latest firmware. Problem has existed since I got it last year. Recently unlocked and rooted, but hasn't made a difference.
I don't know if this is the same as my problem, but it is the closest thread I could find, so I'll post here.
I've had my Nexus 6 about a week. Running 5.1.1, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I've been using a bluetooth headset for phone audio and media audio. It had been working, though I have experienced some audio dropout and stuttering with media audio. I had not been able to determine if that was a bluetooth problem or an app problem, but now I am leaning towards thinking it was a bluetooth problem because of what is now happening.
Today, media audio just stopped playing through my headset. Phone audio is working. I've tried rebooting, I've tried forgetting and re-pairing, I've tried a different headset and I cannot get media audio to play over bluetooth.
I am having the same problem with Nexus6 I have tried two different Plantronics voyager bt headsets and a Motorola Sliver. Motorola said it may be a bluetooth antenna problem
Did a resit on phone and Motorola Bluetooth
I really need bluetooth connectivity so I am stuck
Only other option is either find someone to open up the phone and check the antenna or do it myself maybe replace it myself or look for another phone and use this one as a backup
What would you all suggest?
Thanks