hi everybody. i've tried both kernel named in the title but, being a noob, i can't decide which one is better. can you expalin me which is more convenient to use and why it is? thanks alot
it depend on ur need, for me abyssnote.
i prefer also abbys kernel but the best solution would be to test kernels by yourself ;D
After trying both, Franco kernel, for me, is the best, no lag, smooth, good performance and great battery life.
the new franco kernel 6 in my opinion runs very smoothly. I slept through the night (7hrs) and my phone's battery didn't lose even 1% (I use Juice Defender to put my phone in flight+silent mode during the night).
I found both of the kernels very well, however I am testing out Abyss 4.0 as it has the ability for overclocking and undervolting which the Franco-kernel not yet supports. Prior I ran Franco v. 2, 4 and 6 which all were good with a better battery life than my previous Abyss-kernels (probably due to lower frequency used).
Franco is the way to go for me. It's stable, fast, and very easy on your battery. No overclocking or undervolting, though. If you are into these, chose Abyss.
Both of them are good kernel.
Been changing those kernels back and forth between new releases.
So far, I'm on Abyss.
Depends on your needs. OC go for Abyss, No OC go for Franco. Both of them have great battery life.
just tried abyssnote v4.0 final with TW recovery by koush, awesome recovery, thanks Angelom.
How do I enter recovery mode on the SGH-I717 Note? I dont have a home button I can press but instead the touch. I cant get it to reboot in recovery mode.
Try volume up and down buttons (same time) and the power..
Franco #2 is a clear winner for me in CF and Franco #2 in terms of battery life...
+1 franco v6 kernel coming from speedmod.
+1 Franco v6 with RocketRom v22. Loving it so far
BayuDroidz said:
Both of them are good kernel.
Been changing those kernels back and forth between new releases.
So far, I'm on Abyss.
Depends on your needs. OC go for Abyss, No OC go for Franco. Both of them have great battery life.
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I also prefer Abyss if you need/want OC
I tried all note.kernels and none of the.kernel up par with Franco. Not evem close
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Franco 7 with Darkyrom 3.3. Amazing on battery life for me.
Franco's kernel no question. He is known for is fast, great battery life kernels check the nexus s and galaxy nexus. His kernels are awesome.
So what is your average battery life with the Franco kernel? I have the Abyss 4.1 right now, and it loses around 2-3% overnight and definitely can last around 1 and a half day with minimal usage.
Neither... I'm using FM kernel right now and I can surely vouch the longetivity of my Note's battery life...
2 days already with 40% battery level... 1 hr of internet, 30 mins of calls everyday.. 100 texts, emails and news feeds...
Tried Franco's kernel.. I was not satisfied with the expectant rate of my battery level dropping 3% in just a span of an hour.. I also tried AbyssNote, made a comparison with Franco's kernel, and though there is slight difference in terms of battery life, but the many issues I read on AbyssNote forum of BLN and stuffs made me wary of keeping it on my Note...
So I tried back FM kernel and made a decision not to charge it everyday (I used to charged my Note whenever and wherever I can).
Now, I am never going back to flashing another kernel again (with Franco's or with Angelom's Abyss), unless some of the issues mentioned on some users (on their respective threads) can fully be smoothen out..
Just my take.....
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
samdroid24 said:
Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Slim + ElemantalX
samdroid24 said:
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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Each phone is different but that really has nothing to do with battery life, except that maybe some CPU's can undervolt more. I'm not sure anyone has given this "bullcrap" answer you eluded to.
samdroid24 said:
That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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I've tried most of the roms and kernels and have always gone back to BlissPop and either Lean or Francos. BlissPop for the features and Lean/Franco for the battery life. I would consider myself a moderate to heavy user and get between 4 - 5 hours of sot, but more important to me, I start my day at 5am and shutdown around 10:30 - 11:00 pm and I generally have 35% - 40% or so left. Of course your milage may vary, I also greenify what I can, but I refuse to lose any features i use, why have a fantastic phone and cripple it. I generally don't change any of the kernels, except maybe set it to conservative, I've had issues in the past undervolting, but thats just me. For the slight battery savings I don't find it does that much. Again, my opinion.
Just take a nandroid of where you are and try some combinations. Give it a few days to settle in. Repeat until your happy with the combination.
zephiK said:
Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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Will most definitely flash Chroma... Looks like one of the best designed ROMs.. Will flash it either tonight or tomorrow morning... And your name seems familiar from the numerous pages I've went through on Franco's Kernel lol. Thx :laugh:
how many hour is stay on the stock ROM ?
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
using the rom that i use, and kernel, and the way i set up my cpu, i see between 5.5 and 7 hours sot. which rom and kernel? try them all out, find your best rom/kernel.
dan04103 said:
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
zephiK said:
Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I am on Terminus currently with Franco Kernel undervolted all frequencies @-50 which is 100% stable in my case. -75 crashes on games and/or benchmarks. My Snapdragon has a PVS 5 binning.
samdroid24 said:
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
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Nope, I personally don't find the feature useful.
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Right now I'm on validus ROM with Franco kernel. I only changed the max clock in Franco kernel down to 2.2ghz. Right now I'm at almost 36 hours on time and 4 hours and 40 minutes sot
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Yup, flashed the 1/24 build last night
Hello,
So im willing to try some kernels for my Nexus to see whats the best for my needs.
I want to compare the stock kernel to the leankernel, franco kernel and the ElementalX kernel.
Comperasion criterias:
1. Faster booting
2. Fastest performence as possible without hurting battery life in comparison to the stock kernel.
3. Better battery life as possible without hurting performence in comparison to the stock kernel.
So how can i compare those kernels? should i just flash each kernel and use AnTuTu Benchmark and Better Battery Stats on each one of them?
Choosing the best kernel for me is to give a try for each one and see for myslef - i know that. But i want to see the stats in front of me to reasure im picking the best one and also beacuse iv'e used the chroma and euphoria roms which use leankernel and franco kernel but im not sure the difference is noticeable by eye.
Also, feel free to share your current kernel and opinion about it
torecdude said:
Hello,
So im willing to try some kernels for my Nexus to see whats the best for my needs.
I want to compare the stock kernel to the leankernel, franco kernel and the ElementalX kernel.
Comperasion criterias:
1. Faster booting
2. Fastest performence as possible without hurting battery life in comparison to the stock kernel.
3. Better battery life as possible without hurting performence in comparison to the stock kernel.
So how can i compare those kernels? should i just flash each kernel and use AnTuTu Benchmark and Better Battery Stats on each one of them?
Choosing the best kernel for me is to give a try for each one and see for myslef - i know that. But i want to see the stats in front of me to reasure im picking the best one and also beacuse iv'e used the chroma and euphoria roms which use leankernel and franco kernel but im not sure the difference is noticeable by eye.
Also, feel free to share your current kernel and opinion about it
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1. Stop watch
2 & 3: Not really possible. To give to performance, takes from battery and vice versa. You give 1 to performance, you take 1 from battery. There are no magic settings that allow you to give 1 to performance and only take 0.5 from battery.
I hope the attached image helps to explain that
There are also other things to factor like the governor, scheduling, hot plug support , etc.
For example elementalX has its own Governor and I'm not sure it will even default itself to be used. You will need some type of kernel configuration tool to enable it .
There is also how YOU are using your phone. Just too many variables to consider
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DebianDog said:
There are also other things to factor like the governor, scheduling, hot plug support , etc.
For example elementalX has its own Governor and I'm not sure it will even default itself to be used. You will need some type of kernel configuration tool to enable it .
There is also how YOU are using your phone. Just too many variables to consider
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Yeah for sure.
I always say that because kernel x performs more than kernel y out-of-the-box, it doesn't mean you can't set kernel y up to perform like x... It's just a trade off whichever way you go.
My personal advice is find a kernel that has the features you want, then configure the governor with the bias you want to see. I always go for Elementalx. @flar2 sets the best balance of battery and performance in my opinion, though I always alter my settings to suit my needs anyway
( this post is not only for me, it's for all the people who are looking for a good custom kernel but are indecided on it).
I know there are a lot of custom kernel for Op3T... I want to know which are the best kernel for battery and stability. So please can everyone that are using a custom kernel leave a feedback on what custom kernel are using and what is the time on screen with it? (Maybe also the rom in use)
Thanks everyone
Blu_spark all the way and his TWRP.
Ivanprince99 said:
I want to know which are the best kernel for battery and stability
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There is no such thing. Battery life and stability vary drastically from one user to another depending on settings, apps, how you use your phone, local cell reception, etc.. Lots of variables determine battery and stability, and kernel is just one small part of that. You're expecting folks to just give you a "silver bullet" response, one kernel that will solve all your problems. It simply doesn't work that way.
Stock kernel of Freedom OS and made own profiles with Kernel Adiutor. Tried many custom kernels, but this looks best combination for ME.
For battery profile just drop about 50% CPUs and GPU max clocks.