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Is there a way to clear market download of paid apps?

I have looked through the whole phone and so did some one else however what I'm wanting to do is the my downloads in market of apps I've paid for that i know I'll never use again. I know i can't refund them thats not what I want just to clear them from my downloads. Also did a search on this forum and came up with nothing.
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imbonez9 said:
I have looked through the whole phone and so did some one else however what I'm wanting to do is the my downloads in market of apps I've paid for that i know I'll never use again. I know i can't refund them thats not what I want just to clear them from my downloads. Also did a search on this forum and came up with nothing.
-Please if it doesn't help the topic don't put your input in about flaming for one reason or another. Thank You.
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I second this, too many 1$ apps i'll never use again. itd be nice to clean things up a bit in the my downloads section

i got alot of the ahome themes before i found this site and will never use them again...

When you have a list of applications, press menu, and choose "change view" and check the "Free items only"

Add that to the running list of improvements to the Market... Ability to organize downloads into categories (including archive).

Ad sponsered free apps increasing, Any type of firewall?

Well been doing alot of study lately and it seems ALOT of apps on the market that are full versions and are "free" seem to have ad sponsored elements in them. Sending your GPS data to whoever or other various things. Now while if the dev mentions on the description that their "Paid" version is ad free. Least its up front and honest about it. However alot of Apps I found out hide this info it seems. Is this going to be the new "Kazaa" on the G1? Back when Kazaa came out, is when the influx of "Spyware" was increasing. Im worried is this happening to the G1 now? While I can understand devs choosing this to make their app free and gain from it a lil. Whats to say other devs wont use this for other intentions that may have some negative impact?
Just wondering tho.. for modded G1s. Is there some sorta firewall app or so yet that might be useful? Anyways just thought I would post for discussion case I am worried over nothing.

Install AdFree from the Market.

Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?

Mysticales said:
Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?
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A little paranoia is a healthy thing, too much is bad, but these ads collect all sorts of location information to profile you and provide relevent advertising, but who knows what else happens with the data etc etc etc
PS you need root access on your phone to use AdFree

Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account? Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS.. not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.

Mysticales said:
Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
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You can use your own hosts file on your own phone, AdFree just automates the process, if you look at this thread it started off describing how to do things manually.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account?
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Possibly, I haven't looked into accessing the google credentials from the android APIs so I don't know for certain, might be a private API google only shares with it's own apps, that doesn't mean someone won't figure out how to access them however.
Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS..
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When you install an app there is a screen displayed of the permissions the apps ask for, read/write contacts, calendars etc will all be displayed, you should be able to see the permissions an app will have access to after it's installed as well from memory.
not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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You should be more worried what google will do with all the info it collects to be honest, but that's another issue altogether.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
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You are prompted during install as to what the app will be able to access, google leaves it up to you to accept it or not.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.
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Depends how the tethered setup gets DNS info, if it uses the information from the hosts file then yes, but this is dependent on what the tether setup does.

Mysticales said:
Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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Only if you never bothered reading the permissions requests when installing an app. They clearly describe what permissions an app wants to use and you can cancel the installation if you feel you don't want to give an app the right to access your personal info. So if you install a game that says it wants access to your Google Account info (which would include your email and thus all your associated google services) then you have only yourself to blame if the dev sends you a ton of spam or sells your email address.
Bottom line is read the permissions requested carefully and decide whether you trust the company/entity that created the app before installing it. Also, i'd be very wary installing any root apps, since root apps by their very nature can operate outside of dalvik sandbox and do practically anything they want to your system. I'm only running two root apps right now: Market Enabler and Wifi Tether. They are both open source.

Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.

Mysticales said:
Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.
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Google actually closed up some of the loop holes that apps were using on Android 1.0/1.1 to enable wifi etc.

jashsu said:
They are both open source.
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Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.

Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
Its not anything malicious and you can easily see the permissions when installing.
People all like free apps instead of paying a few dollars, but when an ad is added people try to get rid of it... Havent you all ever wondered why the ads are there? Just like on a forum as the one you are on right now? Right they generate at least a little bit of money for a dev that doesnt want to charge the users directly by letting them pay, but spends almost all his free time to keep apps updated, write new once and answering questions.
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.

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Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.
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It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.

rogro82 said:
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.
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Many people don't like to view ads on their computers, let alone their mobile phone. Thus if people can block the ads easily, they will. Content producers and software developers will simply have to find a new business model to pursue. Maybe that's a free/premium differentiation model or maybe its microtransactions. That or they will have to deal with a percentage of their userbase blocking ads.

Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
Now again, I said I understand why they are there for free apps. Its just that as a user myself.. I like to know Im protected from potential hazards. Also alot of devs like to make something hot to use on later resumes and projects. Ive worked with alot of devs in my time start with nothing and grow to get bigger jobs in RL cause of the project. =)

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It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.
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I didn't say it was hard to get or compile it, but auditing the code to make sure nothing malicious is going on can be very difficult at times. There is a code obfustication competition each year and it's extrodinary what some can do and you'd never know unless it was pointed out to you.

Mysticales said:
Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
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It's not just "issues" too many ads tick a certain segment of the population off to the point that they go to these lengths to get rid of them.
This is of course before you factor in this segment of the population are usually the least to click on ads, usually for ethical/moral reasons, so them getting rid of ads is usually no big loss.
Last time I checked AdFree was downloaded less than 5,000 times, now compare this to a speedometer app I made which anyone can run and it's been downloaded over 10,000 times I highly doubt any dev relying on ads will actually loose out by the people that can and are blocking them.

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Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
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The meta data that can be gleened from this sort of advertising can have all sorts of flow on effects and unintended consequences.
I see the world and potential pitfalls in things differently than others, I don't know why, but the more data collected the worst things can be.
If you are interested in what country they are from/in just pull the country code from the SIM card, why narrow it down to within a few metres?

Well since I have been using Adfree. Let me say this. My G1 seems to be running faster! I dont get as many force close/wait errors. Certain apps like atrackdog for one RUN faster. I mean without the ads running, it seems my apps speed through their task and do what they are supposed to. Kinda interesting note oddly.
Also lets say a app you know would be using GPS to locate you on a map. Thus triggering "Give app permission to use your GPS" which you know why it needs it. But does the app also tell you that it uses the GPS for Ads? So I dont always trust what it says when it comes to permissions as it doesnt mean in the underline that its not using the same permission to do other things. Would be nice if the G1 had a notice that the app uses Ad support.

Linux is a wonderful and powerful operating system that can do just about anything you can possibly dream of.
First, the hosts file hack is a piece of crap since all it does is it points potentially malicious domain names back to self. It doesn't take into account connections that are ip address based... those will still go through and there is nothing that can be put in the hosts file to stop that.
iptables on the other hand.... included in 1.0 and 1.1, and several custom 1.5's, can do many strong things; block by ip address (including if it tries to lookup by dns), block by port, *BLOCK BY USER ID*.
The latter is particularly interesting since each program installed on android is assigned its own userid. That means that with the correct iptables rule, you can block all network traffic for THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. Or you can blacklist/whitelist servers for that program, etc.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block...ingle-user-from-my-server-using-iptables.html
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux...ng-access-to-selectedspecific-ip-address.html
For example, when I issue this command:
iptables -A OUTPUT -o tiwlan0 -m owner --uid-owner 10017 -j DROP
My browser is no longer able to connect (since it is uid=10017) using wifi (tiwlan0 is wifi). Note: leave out the entire "-o tiwlan0" argument and it should block all outgoing on all devices for that userid.
To find the userid for a particular program, do "ls -l /data/data/program'sdatadirectory"

So on JF 1.51 is this ability already there? Yea I know Linux is great for iptables. Always is, even in routers hehe.
If its not in there already, Debian, how well does that work on the G1?

I wouldn't be in such a hurry for "Q"

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/
... Looks like porting old pie roms to new phones is going to become a thing

According to what I've read, it would be very easy to build a workaround for it, especially considering Google already has a workaround in place until Q apps are enforced in Google Play.

Also looks like it might be a pain in the ass

I cannot believe what I just read. I wasn't aware this was coming and I couldn't despise the decision more.
Proper access to the file system was for me one of the main advantages Android offered over iOS.
Way to go, Google...

I think this is the best move Google made for security thus far. Too many apps ask for full unfettered access to my storage. I will be happy when apps get a little bit more locked down in this aspect.

Scott said:
I think this is the best move Google made for security thus far. Too many apps ask for full unfettered access to my storage. I will be happy when apps get a little bit more locked down in this aspect.
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It's not even just storage, it's to everything these days. Why does the app for my Apex Fusion interface on my reef tank need access to contacts and text messages?
On topic, I agree 100% with you.

Those tears in my eyes... yeah not because of the blue light in the middle of the night here... because of what I read... agree +1

I personally think it's a good move. I don't use a lot of apps because of their required permissions.

Well if you can disable Q's "scooped storage" on per app basis with adb shell then it's easy to write a script that enables general storage for every app.
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hank81 said:
Well if you can disable Q's "scooped storage" on per app basis with adb shell then it's easy to write a script that enables general storage for every app.
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True, but I'm sure eventually, just like with most every other special permission these days, you will wind up having to enable it on every boot.
Yes, the entire bug report is atrocious, but let's not get our pitchforks just yet. Google effectively punted on this for Android Q, by making it possible to contribute business as usual. It's quite possible that these issues will be resolved by Android P, or even that the whole idea will be scrapped in favor of something else.
The fact of the matter is that storage permissions in Android are terrible, Trying to address that is not in and of itself a bad thing, in fact I would argue that part alone is a good thing.
Attempting to read the tea leaves a little, this whole project reeks of "new hotshot product manager with poor (at best) understanding of the technical complexities at play forces bad decision into product because he needs to make 'highly visible' changes to the product to demonstrate his worth or get himself promoted". Especially given that the general idea at play isn't the part people are complaining about, just the fact that it's currently technically unusable as a posix api replacement, but the fact that the current one they have is terrible/slow/etc I find the above scenario to be highly likely

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Attempting to read the tea leaves a little, this whole project reeks of "new hotshot product manager with poor (at best) understanding of the technical complexities at play forces bad decision into product because he needs to make 'highly visible' changes to the product to demonstrate his worth or get himself promoted". Especially given that the general idea at play isn't the part people are complaining about, just the fact that it's currently technically unusable as a posix api replacement, but the fact that the current one they have is terrible/slow/etc I find the above scenario to be highly likely
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Thats deep!

Scott said:
Thats deep!
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Lots of adult beverages to come up with this ?

Ayahuasca ?

Scott said:
I think this is the best move Google made for security thus far. Too many apps ask for full unfettered access to my storage. I will be happy when apps get a little bit more locked down in this aspect.
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I don't get this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you already disable specific permission for every app through system settings? Unless something like a wallpaper app refuses to work without access to your phone's contacts or something. Do you get what I'm saying?

roaduardo said:
I don't get this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you already disable specific permission for every app through system settings? Unless something like a wallpaper app refuses to work without access to your phone's contacts or something. Do you get what I'm saying?
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Not exactly. Storage access in the current world is a binary yes/no decision (well, 2 binary yes/no decisions if your device has a SD card slot), either "yes here is access to all of /sdcard" or "no you can't read or write to anything outside your specific app data folder". Using something like the API gives you the ability to do much more fine grained access like "give Poweramp access to my normal music collection in /sdcard/Music, but not my keepassxc password file.", Or "let photos index all the pics it finds on my machine, except for the ones in a 'certain' telegram folder".
The cause for pitchforks in the bug report isn't that people are in love with the posix apis for file access, just that the current Android API implementation is something like 50x slower in Android Q, making it essentially useless for file manager apps that need to do things like directory listings and maintain indexes of all shared storage, etc.

Youtube Music module (not YouTube)

With Google play music going away soon, the community would definitely benefit from a module for YouTube Music (not YouTube).
Requested features, at least from my point of view would be background and ad free playback in the YouTube music section (this already exists in the uploaded music section), improved search in the uploaded section and that the search defaults to the tab it originated in (search in uploaded music, search results show in uploaded tab, not YT music tab). And maybe other small improvements.
Please post here if you would like a module like this. Considering how broken YTM is compared to Google Play Music, it would be welcomed.

I doubt how could someone benefit out of this idea.
My guess is that you're making a basic mistake here, you can't just achieve functions nor improve an app (that requires a paid subscription) by simply adding it to another partiton through a module or giving root permission to it... It won't make any real difference.
If you're taking the Vanced mod into account, don't, because Vanced is a completely different situation, it's a modified version of the original app and the only benefit of it being a module or installed using root was that the app could replace the original YouTube app systemlessly, they could use the repository to distribute the module easier, and you could login without the microg thing (in fact, the module is now deprecated in favor of their own manager apk). And you can also install the non-root version, which works exactly the same as the root one ?
So, in short, no it's not as simple as that. Unless someone is interested in modifying that app directly (similar to Vanced). You should be asking for an apk mod, not a module...

abacate123 said:
I doubt how could someone benefit out of this idea.
My guess is that you're making a basic mistake here, you can't just achieve functions nor improve an app (that requires a paid subscription) by simply adding it to another partiton through a module or giving root permission to it... It won't make any real difference.
If you're taking the Vanced mod into account, don't, because Vanced is a completely different situation, it's a modified version of the original app and the only benefit of it being a module or installed using root was that the app could replace the original YouTube app systemlessly, they could use the repository to distribute the module easier, and you could login without the microg thing (in fact, the module is now deprecated in favor of their own manager apk). And you can also install the non-root version, which works exactly the same as the root one ?
So, in short, no it's not as simple as that. Unless someone is interested in modifying that app directly (similar to Vanced). You should be asking for an apk mod, not a module...
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Considering it's going to replace Google Play Music, yes I think it deserves a module, and as much attention as the Vanced team gives its app. I find it strange you think I'm making a "mistake" in asking for a module (call it an app, call it a module, it's a modded version of the original, however we get there) that thousands of people would appreciate. If a module is not the right term, that's fine. This forums is a good place to start though since I have seen a lot of threads asking for something like this even though GPM is still alive. When it dies, it would be very welcome by the community I'm sure.

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Considering it's going to replace Google Play Music, yes I think it deserves a module, and as much attention as the Vanced team gives its app. I find it strange you think I'm making a "mistake" in asking for a module (call it an app, call it a module, it's a modded version of the original, however we get there) that thousands of people would appreciate. If a module is not the right term, that's fine. This forums is a good place to start though since I have seen a lot of threads asking for something like this even though GPM is still alive. When it dies, it would be very welcome by the community I'm sure.
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Did you ignore the part where I said that it makes no difference at all to use it as a module or simply install as a normal apk and the differences btw them, also the comparison? The mistake I mentioned is that you're asking for an apk mod, not a module. That's it.
About the idea, yes I agree with you, it'd be useful (as long as it's not considered against the rules or there are some law problems implied, Idk).

I'm dreading this forced migration from Play Music to YT Music. For years now I've had the last remaining copy of my entire digital music library collected over the years, with a ton of remixes, singles, alternate versions, radio talk, random sound bites, extremely old and obscure audio files which are very likely impossible to ever find anywhere online these days. All just saved on GPM cloud. I'm absolutely dreading the change to YTMusic will be an opportunity for Google to delete entire swaths of audio files that don't fit into their sanitized Billboard commercial record label-approved cookie cutter whitelist, reducing the tens of thousands of tracks down to whatever YouTube recognizes only.
This may not be the right place to ask, but regarding a method to preserve our GPM music libraries, is there such a mod or modded apk that may help with this? I know back in the day there were mass downloader programs for desktop systems but that's no longer an option. And i very much doubt there will be an easy way to transfer such a huge library to another cloud service, even if just as basic file storage and not music oriented.

Possible way of bypassing MSM tool verification?

Hello everyone!
So today something that could potentially let users flash/unbrick their phones using the current MSM Download tool came to my mind.
I'm also very sorry if this is the wrong place for this, i'm new to xda.
So as you might know for Realme phones there are people who have authorized account out there and once you pay them they will connect to yoprur computer and then start flashing ocess, online with no verification. I even tried getting my phone flashed but due to them not flashing twice if one package doesn't work my device was bricked (I have A.xx variant and i tried getting B.xx flashed) and i had to send to service center to wait for unbricking process which took over a month, yes you heard it right! They couldn't even repair it with software flashing so they had to replace the whole motherboard.... At least i'm grateful i didn't have to pay for motherboard replacement and it was considered in-warranty.
So yes, again let's go back to our topic and my idea.
What came to my mind is, what happens if i create a virtual machine using VMWare, get an authorized account to login to the application then cut connection of that TeamViewer connection and immediately "Save current state of VM" after someone logs in. Would that account be still logged in? This VM can also be shared with it's own folder as far as I know too! Is there a verification after you login to the app? As far as i know there's only a verification while you login to the app and there isn't anything afterwards which i think is also illogical to do so.
I know and i'm aware Realme can patch this possible "vulnerability" overnight because on the server side, literally everything depends on them (I really hope they don't) but thanks to their habit of not caring about development, releasing broken kernel sources and not even providing official bootloader unlock (even after nearly a year in my case) has come to a point where it's irresistably annoying for me so i decided to think of possible ways to maybe bypass the verification part of the application so that they can flash a firmware as their liking.
It's Android! It had to be free! It had to be allowed to do these type of stuffs to your Android phone! Why? Why? Why Realme?!

Edit: This is the exact same post of my post on Android General. After posting i saw there were nearly no replies and activity so i decided to post the same text as well.

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Edit: This is the exact same post of my post on Android General. After posting i saw there were nearly no replies and activity so i decided to post the same text as well.
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