I have a question about S-Off, I guess the Moonshine S-Off specifically. I want to know whether if I install it successfully, can it possibly hinder FUTURE flashes? Like will it possibly be incompatible with newer ROMs or something, or is it more like, once installed, that's it, you're good forever, compatibility isn't an issue? I've never done S-Off so it's a little confusing for me.
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Roy
See if this post gives you an answer. I looked around the s-off threads & I this one helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26732440
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ghostryder12 said:
See if this post gives you an answer. I looked around the s-off threads & I this one helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26732440
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It does actually clear up a few things for me... Looks like it doesn't have much to do with the ROMs because like he said, you can have S-Off on any ROM rooted or not, makes no difference... I think I have that right anyway? I'm just wondering if the S-Off method is something that is going to get updated or if that's it, it's a final hack? Any ideas?
Thanks for answering, btw. Also, stop watching me. I see your van. Stop it.
royoshukrun said:
It does actually clear up a few things for me... Looks like it doesn't have much to do with the ROMs because like he said, you can have S-Off on any ROM rooted or not, makes no difference... I think I have that right anyway? I'm just wondering if the S-Off method is something that is going to get updated or if that's it, it's a final hack? Any ideas?
Thanks for answering, btw. Also, stop watching me. I see your van. Stop it.
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I think you're right about s-off on any rom & I don't see s-off hack being updated at all. Take a look at this guy's Web site about doing s-off and rooting. He makes it so easy. http://qbking77.com/
Edit: FYI, I'm not planning on rooting or even going s-off for now. My One is almost a month old and I'm still being impressed by this phone.
And I'm a ROM flashing junkie. I had 5 different ROM nandroid backed up on my sd card of my HTC Inspire.
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I think you're right about s-off on any rom & I don't see s-off hack being updated at all. Take a look at this guy's Web site about doing s-off and rooting. He makes it so easy. http://qbking77.com/
Edit: FYI, I'm not planning on rooting or even going s-off for now. My One is almost a month old and I'm still being impressed by this phone.
And I'm a ROM flashing junkie. I had 5 different ROM nandroid backed up on my sd card of my HTC Inspire.
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Yep, that looks easy... I'm only wondering about my firmware now because I'm on the Canadian variant on an international ROM... shouldn't make a difference but who knows?
royoshukrun said:
Yep, that looks easy... I'm only wondering about my firmware now because I'm on the Canadian variant on an international ROM... shouldn't make a difference but who knows?
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Yea, not sure about that. It should matter. They all should root the same. I believe the main variant would be relating to being 4G or 4G LTE. http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ie/2013/03/htc-one-gsm-or-lte.html?m=1
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ghostryder12 said:
Yea, not sure about that. It should matter. They all should root the same. I believe the main variant would be relating to being 4G or 4G LTE. http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ie/2013/03/htc-one-gsm-or-lte.html?m=1
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mmmm well I'm definitely LTE enabled... Okay I found a rogers backup for the right firmware anyway, so I'll be able to restore the right firmware before using the moonshine process. The guy in the video uses revone but the thread sort of points towards more problems so it's a bit worrisome. I wonder why there are two S-Offs anyway.
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mmmm well I'm definitely LTE enabled... Okay I found a rogers backup for the right firmware anyway, so I'll be able to restore the right firmware before using the moonshine process. The guy in the video uses revone but the thread sort of points towards more problems so it's a bit worrisome. I wonder why there are two S-Offs anyway.
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That's a good question that I have been unable to find an answer for yet.
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That's a good question that I have been unable to find an answer for yet.
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Yeah... The real thing that worries me though is the message that it can't be compatible with all custom ROMs.
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Yeah... The real thing that worries me though is the message that it can't be compatible with all custom ROMs.
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Say again? The S-Off method works for all devices as it is not HBOOT dependant. Moonshine is as it replaces the HBOOT, while revone just cracks open your current HBOOT and messes with it to get S-Off. Neither will restrict you to any custom ROMs.
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Say again? The S-Off method works for all devices as it is not HBOOT dependant. Moonshine is as it replaces the HBOOT, while revone just cracks open your current HBOOT and messes with it to get S-Off. Neither will restrict you to any custom ROMs.
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Damn well that's good news to me. I meant the message you get with the moonshine distiller, it says "moonshine can't be compatible with all custom ROMs". But that's awesome. Is one of the two methods somehow better? I appreciate your answer by the way, thanks a lot.
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When I look online, I only see guides for Hero's with earlier firmwares.
Nope... the official "ruu" changed it to where root wont work. There are a few people pretty perturbed by this on the forums.
reedsw said:
Nope... the official "ruu" changed it to where root wont work. There are a few people pretty perturbed by this on the forums.
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[JOKE]perturbed is a pretty big word what does it mean[/JOKE]
yeah if you got a phone with the 1.5 don;t use the ruu update or your screwed. If you got a phone with the 2.1 update your screwed till someone figures it out. I wish the three guys that rooted the evo had sprint heroes (not to be confused with the tv show)
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[JOKE]perturbed is a pretty big word what does it mean[/JOKE]
yeah if you got a phone with the 1.5 don;t use the ruu update or your screwed. If you got a phone with the 2.1 update your screwed till someone figures it out. I wish the three guys that rooted the evo had sprint heroes (not to be confused with the tv show)
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PTFO........
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It gets better every time
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Can we post here all the updates about S-OFF ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291087
S-Off sounds rather dangerous. Doesn't that mean that it's possible to (accidentally) flash unsigned radios permanently bricking one's device?
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S-Off sounds rather dangerous. Doesn't that mean that it's possible to (accidentally) flash unsigned radios permanently bricking one's device?
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It can be dangerous if people don't read or do research before flashing anything.
Hah, yeah. It's not like you go and flash a radio some random guy put together
Theshawty said:
Hah, yeah. It's not like you go and flash a radio some random guy put together
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Yes but it becomes extremely important to match md5 hashes before you attempt to flash radios and hboots. One wrong move and it's Perma brick no fixing it.
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Did the moonshine team post the method somewhere else?
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Hah, yeah. It's not like you go and flash a radio some random guy put together
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Technically only noobs prone to cause damage to their device want S-OFF because they don't know there is no need for S-OFF with the HTC One,
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
Sebianoti said:
Technically only noobs prone to cause damage to their device want S-OFF because they don't know there is no need for S-OFF with the HTC One,
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
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Just because there's no need it can be useful to flash an older RUU to go back to stock and then use OTAs to get up to date
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Making the hboot flag read "eat sh!+" instead of "unlocked" is enough reason for me.
My ONLY need for S-off is to flash my AT&T One to the Google edition ONE TIME and let Google take care of my OS updates directly.
gunnyman said:
My ONLY need for S-off is to flash my AT&T One to the Google edition ONE TIME and let Google take care of my OS updates directly.
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Gunny, have you tried out any of the AOSP ROMs? I'm sure you have, but if that's what you're looking for you can already have it. This community is almost always faster at getting updates out than Google, even on Nexus devices. I have a feeling that this phone will be something of a red-headed step child to the Nexus family because of the special hardware/software considerations(i.e. the Camera[reported to take abysmal pictures on AOSP ROMs, so must be something soft/hardware combination HTC is pulling out], Beats audio chip, etc.).
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Gunny, have you tried out any of the AOSP ROMs? I'm sure you have, but if that's what you're looking for you can already have it. This community is almost always faster at getting updates out than Google, even on Nexus devices. I have a feeling that this phone will be something of a red-headed step child to the Nexus family because of the special hardware/software considerations(i.e. the Camera[reported to take abysmal pictures on AOSP ROMs, so must be something soft/hardware combination HTC is pulling out], Beats audio chip, etc.).
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I have, but I'm staying away until OTG works, (unless it already does)
I am looking for s-off to be able to exchange my phone which has a faulty camera...
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brainymd said:
I am looking for s-off to be able to exchange my phone which has a faulty camera...
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A bootloader reading relocked is keeping you from exchanging? Nonsense.
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It is the "tampered" part...
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brainymd said:
It is the "tampered" part...
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Are you exchanging with HTC or with your carrier? If with your carrier, it's highly unlikely they will check that as most reps don't know anything about bootloaders or what they even mean. Unless you're very, very unlucky...
If exchanging through HTC, you're gonna roll the dice. If they determine that it's a hardware failure in no way related to anything you've done to the phone, then they will replace free of charge. If they don't make that determination, they'll still replace but they will charge you for the new parts(camera + new locked motherboard). At least, that's been their M.O in my experience going back to at least the Nexus One.
Thanks for an insightful reply. I bought it from tmobile over the phone..and plan to take it for a store exchange on June 5
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brainymd said:
Thanks for an insightful reply. I bought it from tmobile over the phone..and plan to take it for a store exchange on June 5
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As another tip, make sure to turn on Fast Boot under Settings > Power. This will make it more "difficult" for the rep to check since you can't boot into the bootloader or into recovery while it's checkboxed. Also, it's the default option. Just make sure the obvious things are gone: stock ROM, no SU, etc.
Sebianoti said:
Technically only noobs prone to cause damage to their device want S-OFF because they don't know there is no need for S-OFF with the HTC One,
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
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Uh huh.. I'm no noob and I want S-Off for LOCKED so that I can claim hardware failures like the power button, NFC not working etc etc. Where I'm from, an unlocked bootloader is an instant reject no matter what the damage is.
İ have htc vivid phone.But i never turned s-off.Jupunetbear doesn'nt work..
A second problem is i have borked rom.But call volume is very low.How can solve these problem???
KOSOVALI said:
İ have htc vivid phone.But i never turned s-off.Jupunetbear doesn'nt work..
A second problem is i have borked rom.But call volume is very low.How can solve these problem???
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Actually... Yes it does... That is how EVERYONE with a Holiday achieved s-off
And... Low call volume is a known and accepted bug on borked....
Try sun_dreams ROM...
And please... Please... Read the threads...
I know you didn't... Because this has been discussed many many MANY times
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rignfool said:
Actually... Yes it does... That is how EVERYONE with a Holiday achieved s-off
And... Low call volume is a known and accepted bug on borked....
Try sun_dreams ROM...
And please... Please... Read the threads...
I know you didn't... Because this has been discussed many many MANY times
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yes i tried jupunetbear but i cuoldn't do s-off Also.İ liked borked rom.But tehere is a problem call volume is very low.İf i can solve this volume problem i will be relax.
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yes i tried jupunetbear but i cuoldn't do s-off Also.İ liked borked rom.But tehere is a problem call volume is very low.İf i can solve this volume problem i will be relax.
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Actually, the S-Off procedure for the Vivid is tricky to do and requires a bit of patience. One thing I got wrong was thinking that one end of the wire was supposed to go through the hole. The hole just marks the position of the ground wire. Once I figured that out, it still took several tries before I got the timing just right.
It really does work, though. I have hardly ever seen anyone having a problem unless they didn't follow some of the directions, like having your system stock to begin with.
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Actually, the S-Off procedure for the Vivid is tricky to do and requires a bit of patience. One thing I got wrong was thinking that one end of the wire was supposed to go through the hole. The hole just marks the position of the ground wire. Once I figured that out, it still took several tries before I got the timing just right.
It really does work, though. I have hardly ever seen anyone having a problem unless they didn't follow some of the directions, like having your system stock to begin with.
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thanks.How can find jupunetbear files for windows?İ want to do s-off my phone agog...
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thanks.How can find jupunetbear files for windows?İ want to do s-off my phone agog...
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Windows is no longer supported. I have heard you can use a boot disk from Ubuntu and set up the files on that. I have a spare hard drive that I keep loaded with Ubuntu for those times that WinDoze doesn't do what I want.
Correct, Windows is no longer supported and it took me 3 or 4 times doing the wire trick before I finally got S-off, but it does work. BTW - I actually still have the ControlBear files for windows that I used to S-off my Vivid. I could email you the zip file if you want.
RELEVANT TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE GET THE UPDATE, IT LOCKS THE BOOTLOADER.
IF THEY LOCK IT FOR THE S6 EDGE, THEY'LL LOCK IT FOR THE S6!
DO NOT TAKE THE OTA IF YOU DON'T WANT A LOCKED BOOTLOADER.
Unassuming Galaxy S6 edge users are in for a surprise, as T-Mobile appears to be rolling out a freshly cooked OTA based on Android version 5.1.1 Lollipop for the device. The catch, however, it is so far reported only on the T-Mobile network.
XDA forums user Sunderwear mentioned about the OTA a couple of hours back (at the time of writing this story). Urged by other users of the device, the poster also uploaded a video of his Galaxy S6 edge running the latest firmware. The video can be found at the end of this article.
As noted from the narration, the update also locks the bootloader on the device.
So, how many of you have already received the update? What do you think of it?
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/29/android-5-1-1-ota-being-rolled-out-on-t-mobile-for-the-s6-edge/
Looks like someone in the Edge forum was able to downgrade the bootloader and flash TWRP but still, tread carefully.
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ok I downgraded the Bootloader ONLY and I was able to flash TWRP...dumping a system.img copy..
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
jcase said:
Korean variants seem to be getting an app that unlocks the bootloader, I bet we start seeing that for other variants as well (except verizon/att).
This is a good thing, not a bad thing people!
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
nolimit78 said:
Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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I see you edited your signature!
If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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BOOM. Bootloader news is great news
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Is it possible to do the update if we are rooted? And I mean UPDATE not flash the entire new release.
ipaq_101 said:
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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This type of thing might happen with a lot of updates. You need to remember the rooting/moding community is very small compared to the people who just use their phone as is. So if anything I think its weird that someone in this community got the update.
Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
ipaq_101 said:
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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it's a leak...also camera is buggy...not a final version
ipaq_101 said:
Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Haha yeah, tech reporters are a bunch of iMorons as it is and love iCrap over everything else. I was shocked that they even knew what xda was.
Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
timeToy said:
Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Really? So it might work but register touches opposite of our phone?
nolimit78 said:
I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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This
Damn I wish this would leak for AT&T. 5.0.1 TW has a bigger memory leak than stock 5.0.1 on my Nexus. This needs to be rolled out ASAP, but I know it won't.
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-t-mobile-getting-android-511-update
Supposedly locks the boot loader....
Second thread. ..
Just in case this thread doesn't get locked here is a copy and past of my post from the other thread. Important not to freak out about bootloaders unless months go by without the app.
Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
jcase said:
Korean variants seem to be getting an app that unlocks the bootloader, I bet we start seeing that for other variants as well (except verizon/att).
This is a good thing, not a bad thing people!
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It seems like the person got a test release by accident. The kernel build date is yesterday. No one else over on the edge forums has received it either. Dont seem to be false as the person even posted a vid of it. Dude just seems lucky lol.
Nice to know work is being done.
Well the ota update was dated 4/27 and the phone was released on 4/28
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Well the ota update was dated 4/27 and the phone was released on 4/28
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What? The phone was released a few weeks ago.
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It seems like the person got a test release by accident. The kernel build date is yesterday. No one else over on the edge forums has received it either. Dont seem to be false as the person even posted a vid of it. Dude just seems lucky lol.
Nice to know work is being done.
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Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before
mrapp said:
Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before
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The person did post a dump of the OTA so it will be easy to tell if this is real or not.
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Just in case this thread doesn't get locked here is a copy and past of my post from the other thread. Important not to freak out about bootloaders unless months go by without the app.
Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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But im sure we can grab the apk
PunishedSnake said:
But im sure we can grab the apk
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Might work but the bootloaders are different for every variant and god knows what kind of black magic is in that apk.
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Might work but the bootloaders are different for every variant and god knows what kind of black magic is in that apk.
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True
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Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before
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Some other users got the dump he posted to boot on their devices so it appears to be legit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...android-5-1-1-ota-rolled-t-mobile-s6-t3096311