The purpose of this post is to inform those seeking to use the HTC One on AT&T should NOT use the T-Mobile version of the HTC one on the AT&T network due to poor reception issues. Issues may arise from the enabled 42mb hspa+ and/or the inclusion of the 1700 band. Or maybe its just the T-Mobile radio.
I was originally on T-Mobile with a T-Mobile HTC One in Atlanta, Georgia. T-Mobile's coverage wasn't working out for me in buildings so I SIM unlocked the phone and took it over to AT&T. Everything works but AT&Ts coverage was always changing from 1 bar of LTE to barely any bars of hpsa+. I got a AT&T branded HTC One and inserted my SIM and got 2-3 bars of LTE when I was getting either none or one bar of LTE service. I am also getting about 90% more LTE coverage than I previously had with the T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T's network.
I took back the AT&T HTC One as I could not afford to pay full price for the phone at this time. I am still using the T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T and will buy one when they get cheaper.
On a side not my wife has a T-Mobile IPhone 5 and got it unlocked and switch over to AT&T with me and is getting comparable LTE coverage as the AT&T HTC One version. It sucks cause she will have 3 bars of LTE service and I will have 1 bar of hspa+. I wish there was a fix for this rather than having to go through selling the old one and getting a new one. I love my HTC One .
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[I'm cross-posting this in the TMO HTC One forum as well]
My situation:
1. I've been with Sprint since the OG Evo, but after getting the One, I was really frustrated with the slow LTE speeds especially after years of Network Vision promises and paying an extra $10 a month (per phone) for "high speed data" that was anything but. I was also irked at all the crap I had to go through to get the SIM unlocked.
2. The area I live in has refarmed HSPA+ to the 1900Mhz band.
3. The area I live in has AWS LTE.
4. I currently have a Sprint, T-Mobile, and Developer Edition One.
My original plan was to use the DE to test the TMO network to see if it was faster than Sprint and available in all the places I frequent. If so, then I'd sell my (now SIM unlocked) Sprint model and keep the DE, otherwise, I'd return the DE for a refund.
But over the last week and a half I've noticed that, while LTE speeds were frequently pretty high (15-20Mbps) there were still plenty of times when I was only seeing an H or an E. I couldn't even tell if the H was HSPA or HSPA+. So then I began to wonder if I was missing out because of the lack of the 1700Mhz band, thus I bought the TMO version to see if I was missing anything.
Turns out, I wasn't. The H I've been seeing is indeed HSPA+ but nowhere near the advertised 42Mbps. Granted, I wasn't naive enough to think I would pull 42Mbps even with the TMO version, but I expected to get at least in the 20-30Mbps range, instead I've been seeing 5-9Mbps. (Thanks to the Sensorly app, I can now tell which H I'm seeing).
After running around with TMO version, I'm seeing the exact same speeds in the same places. So, I'm not missing anything by not having 1700Mhz. In the meantime, TMO is still refarming more areas so the 1700Mhz is becoming less and less important.
So what about Sprint? At their lowest, the TMO speeds are equal to or a little above the Sprint speeds I've been seeing (my wife inherited the Sprint version during this trial run), and at their highest, Sprint can't touch them (in this area--I've gotten up to 20Mbps in PA).
So T-Mobile it is. When the wife's contract is up at the end of the month, the Sprint model is going up on Swappa. Meanwhile, the TMO version is going back to the store tomorrow.
What about AT&T you ask? Way faster, but way more expensive. Truth is, I spend most of my time on wifi anyway, so I'm not willing to pay AT&T prices for cable internet speeds for the times in between.
Hope this helps anyone else facing the same dilemma.
Really interesting
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With your unlocked Sprint One, what happens if you put your T-Mobile SIM in it? Do you get service? If so, is it HSPA or just EDGE?
Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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cfendrick said:
Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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T-Mobile sucks in my area... My sprint speeds are in my sig.
Title says it all, is it possible now that we have S-off?
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
I personally think it would be better to make it into an international version for timely updates.... I've been wanting to do this as well...
a box of kittens said:
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
Airo18 said:
I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
rican408 said:
I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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Nope, when T-Mobile rolled it out they skipped Jacksonville Florida
All one versions have the same hadware! It's just a matter of enabling/disabling a certain radio in the device
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
lbell said:
AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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That's what I thought I read elsewhere
what he said above. TMO versions can pick up 3G AWS since most of their network is on that band. ATT doesnt use that band only 1900 for 3G, but since TMO has only started refarming old 2G 1900mhz signal to 3G signal only certain places will recieve 3G signal for TMO on the ATT HTC one.
So far i havent heard of anyone breaking into the radio portions and adjusting the bands. i think people are still a bit sketchy on whether that will work or not. its a pretty big gamble.
your best option is maybe find someone who has the TMO version and wants an international version. and trade?
I have the AT&T One. T-Mobile was sold out and I wanted it the day it was released so I just bought the AT&T One at Best Buy. I have AT&T LTE but I was wanting to use T-Mobile because I have unlimited on that line. I never get 3G though, only HSPA which is weird, or maybe not idk
I have a att One
its unlocked on tmobile.
I get signal 4g most areas and lte sometimes... Being a quad band phone isn't it supposed to be equally as strong as a actual tmobile variant as far as getting constant lte if u compare the two devices both using a tmobile sim... My att unlocked drops 4g and a Tmobile One variant side by side at the same time holds 4g lte all bars.
So my idea was any benefit or fix if I was to
Soff supercid and flash a shipped tmobile ruu over the att One.
Would I in return gain the equal signal strength Vs just flashing a tmobile Rom?
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No.
HTC ATT One is differnet then HTC T-Mobile HTC One.
T-Mobile has Penta band chip and ATT has quad band.
T-Mobile has 1700mhz added to it.. So comparing signal between the two is not equal.
But i could be wrong. Its been brought up in other discussions that the T-Mobile variant is the better one due to additional frequency coverage.
The ATT and Google Play edition share the same hardware and that hardware is different from the T-Mobile variant.
lojak29 said:
I have a att One
its unlocked on tmobile.
I get signal 4g most areas and lte sometimes... Being a quad band phone isn't it supposed to be equally as strong as a actual tmobile variant as far as getting constant lte if u compare the two devices both using a tmobile sim... My att unlocked drops 4g and a Tmobile One variant side by side at the same time holds 4g lte all bars.
So my idea was any benefit or fix if I was to
Soff supercid and flash a shipped tmobile ruu over the att One.
Would I in return gain the equal signal strength Vs just flashing a tmobile Rom?
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I get all that...
I do know the htc one doesnt require soff to flash a diff carrier based rom.. but as far as a stock ruu from another carrier bot sure.. I just thought I'd gain maybe a better radio or something that would make it equal signal...
But as u said about the 1700 band maybe that's the issue..but I thought the att one like the att note supported it... Cause I do get lte.
Just the amount of time it holds it Vs the amount if time a tmobile one holds lte is way different.
I've also seen this same scenario on every single att unlocked phone I've used on tmobile. The lte or 4g stays and sticks longer on a tmobile branded device with a tmo sim.
Maybe there's no way around it.
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Hi all,
I have a Verizon HTC One (M7) that I've brought with me to Canada. According to Verizon, because the phone is an international 4G LTE phone, it is already unlocked. I plan to cancel my Verizon number and get a new service from one of the wireless providers here (Telus (Koodo), Rogers (Fido), or Bell). I would like to know which one of these operators will be able to provide me with 4G LTE data service (if any)?
I am currently using my phone with my Verizon service on Rogers' network, and I have access to data with only 3G speeds (I'm not sure it's HSPA+ or not; it says only 3G on the screen). The phone obviously is capable of higher data speeds, but I was not able to find which carrier provides 4G LTE service on the same frequency band(s) that my Verizon M7 phone is using. I found this page on the frequency bands my phone uses, but it's rather confusing.
Could anybody give me some tips? Any help is really appreciated.
Thanks a lot...
nobody knows a Verizon One M7 is campatible with which Canadian carrier?
Living in NYC area. Using an (AT&T) HTC One M7 unlocked on T-Mobile network. After almost 2 years of 4G capability wherever there is generally T-Mobile service capability (i.e. NYC area and some other metro areas, etc.), as of Sun/Mon July 9th/10th, I stopped getting 4G anywhere and everywhere. Since July 9th/10th, I've been in Queens, Manhattan, Brooklyn and maybe Nassau County. I've also been in the Fort Lee, NJ, Newark, NJ and Jersey Shore (i.e. Bradley Beach, Red Bank, etc.) areas as well as in between those areas as I've driven to all the areas listed above. I will add that call audio quality has been very poor with plenty of dropped calls, also since approximately July 10th.
T-Mobile has given me a back and forth and contradicted itself multiple times, but I gather the gist is that there are network updates that supposedly make this phone not be able to get 4G on T-Mobile anymore, at least for the time being if not forever. Any workarounds possible? For reference, I do not believe that the phone is rooted.
Same phone, similar issues....
I can't say for sure where you are, but for past 3-4 months in the San Antonio area, T-mob has been making a lot of changes to modify their towers to accommodate their new LTE Band 12 (900 MHz?). Unfortunately, our ATT m7s won't pick up this frequency, or the AWS 1700 freq. either. As I understand it, these 2 frequencies will be vital to T-mob's future network expansions.
Back in May, I finally took the plunge, and rooted my m7. Doing so allowed me to install the latest compatible T-mob radio, along with getting my Hotspot out of ATT jail. The AWS 1700 band IS available in our phones, but its deactivated in the ATT version. There was no LTE Band 12 when our phones were made, so that option is out. The One m9 is the first HTC One that is Band 12 capable.
Basically, if you're planning to stay with T-mob, your best option is the m9, or some "lesser" phone (LOL), which supports ALL of T-mob's frequencies.
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