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Getting a better look at this multitouch issue, with some good ol' community feedback

Hey guys,
Thought I'd post this here and keep you guys updated on further developments.
I live in the Netherlands and bought a 32GB version at Dixons at the 13th of November 2012
I had found the touchscreen a bit unresponsive sometimes in the past.
But couldn't really find out why it was acting up. I finally isolated the issue.
It is exactly the same as this guys vid:
(Thanks for the vid injahnet)
Together with a little backlight bleeding, I decided to send for repair.
(The problem persisted after a factory reset, no other apps were open when testing.)
I went back to Dixons and showed the problem to the Dixons dude.
He acknowledged there was an issue and sent it for repairs or replacement.
Due to the holidays this can take some time. Maybe even next year
I was about to open my tablet for a look inside one of these days, boy am I glad I didn't do that yet
Anyway to get a good view on this issue globally, are there more people that have the same issue?
You could go to: Settings > Developer options > and then under "Input" you can enable Show touches. and try to to the same procedure as in the vid. (Thanks Peterk-1)
Or you could test with MultiTouchTester like Injahnet.
The weird thing is, my dad's N7 16GB does the same.
Update 17-12-2012: Please do not test while plugged in as the device will be grounded and the issue will not occur. (Thanks dad)
Feedback is really appreciated!
Please vote in the poll above!
Cheers,
Daan

I have zero problems with multitouch while using my Nexus 7. Working just fine, but you must disable any apps which interfere with gestures or it'll steal events.
Can't say I've ever used multitouch with the N7 laying on a random object however.
But sure, send it in for repair......... I'll keep using mine.

If anyone thinks they have multi touch problems then loading an app isn't required. Just go into Developer Options and under Input you have two options to display touch and track detail.

peterk-1 said:
If anyone thinks they have multi touch problems then loading an app isn't required. Just go into Developer Options and under Input you have two options to display touch and track detail.
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Nice one. I'll add that.
khaytsus said:
I have zero problems with multitouch while using my Nexus 7. Working just fine, but you must disable any apps which interfere with gestures or it'll steal events.
Can't say I've ever used multitouch with the N7 laying on a random object however.
But sure, send it in for repair......... I'll keep using mine.
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I've done a factory reset before I tested No apps are open except MultiTouchTester
It's in for repairs

Well... Over 200 views. And only 4 votes, which includes mine
Community feedback is failing hard.
Anyway, I'll keep you guys posted on the repaired Nexus.
At the moment of writing we know that three people are having this issue.
I know someone else with a nexus I'll check if he has the issue too.
Cheers,
Daan

Yes, i have this problem. And only while device is laying on the table.

Wow, this is bizarre, thanks for pointing it out. I can confirm it happens when it's laying on my pillow, and doesn't when I'm holding it.

Thanks for the vote guys.
By the way, it seems obvious that the Nexus should not be plugged in while testing.
However I cannot test this 'cause mine is at the shop
Would anyone be willing to test?
I'll add that in the original post (+ a mention of your name and a thank you of course))
Cheers,
Daan

Mine was unplugged while testing.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

if the two touch-points got the same X or Y coordinate my nex7 does only detect one of them. i don't think this is an issue.

herrrevo said:
if the two touch-points got the same X or Y coordinate my nex7 does only detect one of them. i don't think this is an issue.
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However, zooming in Google maps for example will become quite difficult

Anyone try and see if taping the ground pin on the wifi antenna fixes the issue? This seams like a grounding problem.

ionstorm66 said:
Anyone try and see if taping the ground pin on the wifi antenna fixes the issue? This seams like a grounding problem.
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Exactly! I was also thinking of this.
Do people who have this issue also have the flickering issue!?

ecoviws buttress
Just an FYI, I installed CM 10.1 with Trinty Seven. Now I get 10 touches on pretty much any surface.

I don't have a multitouch issue, but I do have an entire band on my screen which has stopped responding to touch at times. It all started when I let my tab shut down due to low battery. Initially, the Nexus 7 neither charged (when put on charging, obviously), nor did it boot up. After trying for several hours, somehow it started charging. And since then, sometimes certain areas of my touchscreen become unresponsive to touch. Since the band which is unresponsive is towards the upper part of the screen, using notifications becomes completely impossible. It keeps 'snapping back up' when I try to pull it down, cos while I am pulling it down, the notification tray encounters an unresponsive area, so it just goes back up. Called up Google and they will be sending a replacement device. All I am afraid about is that I have an 8gb version, and they would be sending an 8gb as well, so I hope it isn't refurbished or something, as Asus has stopped making the 8gig model.

I'm having an issue where the screen, ( mostly in a webpage or document,) starts moving up and down and zooming in and out without my input.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Just tested this out and yes, my device is doing it too. Interesting. No other issues like screen flicker (except the auto brightness bug in 4.2). My n7 is c9O

DaanJordaan said:
Well... Over 200 views. And only 4 votes, which includes mine
Community feedback is failing hard.
Anyway, I'll keep you guys posted on the repaired Nexus.
At the moment of writing we know that three people are having this issue.
I know someone else with a nexus I'll check if he has the issue too.
Cheers,
Daan
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community feedback is not failing hard, more like you're just starting a new thread without bothering to search if issue/topic already exist.
this isn't new and there is no fix, that is just how the touchscreen function. the N7 isn't the only device to have this.

dilldoe said:
community feedback is not failing hard, more like you're just starting a new thread without bothering to search if issue/topic already exist.
this isn't new and there is no fix, that is just how the touchscreen function. the N7 isn't the only device to have this.
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Don't feed the trolls!
Must... not... feed... aaargh....
You are kinda missing the point of this thread.
It is to see how many people have this issue.
There is no thread capturing that in an easy way unless you want to count every post.
Now please tell your brain to start functioning again and leave this thread alone if you have nothing to add.

Asus Google Nexus 7 32GB touch death zone
Hi DaanJordaan,
Found out that my brand new N7 seems to have a similar "no touch zone" issue; an area the size of my little finger on the left lower part of my screen does not seem to react to touch! It interferes with typing the keyboard in portrait mode (no keyboard problems in up-side-down portrait mode).
When I use the Easylabs Multi Touch test I can see the dot changing color when I move over this area, doesn't happen anywhere else on the screen..
Using the developer tools (turning on the two options that allows to show touch/leave a trail of touch) it becomes even more clear that this area does not react to touch! I can "paint" lines around the "no touch zone" (it actually splits into 2 touch areas using one finger around the "death spot"), and the "no touch zone" reveals itself by not showing any trail/history line of touch..
Oh yes, and it does not matter if I lay the N7 on the table, or hold it in my hand, the issue is always there.
Therefore I returned the N7 back to the MediaMarkt, and they will send it in for repairs...
I've got a bad feeling about this | - )
I am curious to hear about experiences with your N7, once you have it back!
I'll report mine here, in three weeks or so (that's the outlook...).
Cheers!
NeverMind

The method of reproduce the touch screen problem is established. Confirm it!

1.Turn on your display and wake app like the paintsoft.
2.Put your Z1 onto a insulated one, like rubber sheet and your Z1 has to be naked.(without any cases)
3.Wait 30sec or more.
4.Draw a line, and during drawing, touch the side panel. Left side and right side should be touched by two fingers. and cover of microUSB port and sim port should not be touched.
5.About 70-80%, You can reproduce the problem.
The movie is here
http://youtu.be/CeAw17LrdKE
This problem may be caused by bad insulating.
But I don't know this problem is occurred in all Z1s.
This problem of touch panel can be occurred variable timings.
People who playing games or using pattern lock will recognize this problem easily. but difficult for who Not playing games or Not using pattern lock.
This method can detect the potential error of your Z1 it looks no problem.
Please test your Z1. and if the problem is reproduced, you should go to store and make a claim!
and replaced one if you get, please re-test and report here.

router0520 said:
1. Turn on your display and wake app like the paintsoft.
2.Put your Z1 onto a insurated one, like rubber sheet and your Z1 must be naked.(without any cases)
3.Wait 30sec or more.
4.Drow a line, and during drowing, touch the side panel. Side panel should be touched left side and right side by two fingers. and cover of microUSB port and sim port should not be touched.
5.For 70-80%, You can reproduce the problem.
The movie is here
http://youtu.be/CeAw17LrdKE
This plobrem caused by bad insurating.
But I don't know this ploblem is occurred in all Z1s.
Please confirm it.
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confirmed in my case.. really bad...

router0520 said:
1. Turn on your display and wake app like the paintsoft.
2.Put your Z1 onto a insurated one, like rubber sheet and your Z1 must be naked.(without any cases)
3.Wait 30sec or more.
4.Drow a line, and during drowing, touch the side panel. Side panel should be touched left side and right side by two fingers. and cover of microUSB port and sim port should not be touched.
5.For 70-80%, You can reproduce the problem.
The movie is here
http://youtu.be/CeAw17LrdKE
This plobrem caused by bad insurating.
But I don't know this ploblem is occurred in all Z1s.
Please confirm it.
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My Z1 also have this problem. After 40seconds i even didn't have to touch this two sides of phone.

For few weeks I never saw that problem on mine so I was not worry about it but today I tested few nice games and I realized that after a minute playing the game (Minimotor or HAWX) the virtual joystick stopping working. I have to retouch the joystick with my hand or take off my hand from the phone. All the time.
My question: this is a Hardware problem?

brapicoco said:
confirmed in my case.. really bad...
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This ploblem can solve by updating the driver software. like Xperia tabletZ.
Hang in there!

In the next week i will buy this phone when i have enough money.
How often come the problem?
Sent from my Optimus 4X HD using xda premium

eclyptos said:
For few weeks I never saw that problem on mine so I was not worry about it but today I tested few nice games and I realized that after a minute playing the game (Minimotor or HAWX) the virtual joystick stopping working. I have to retouch the joystick with my hand or take off my hand from the phone. All the time.
My question: this is a Hardware problem?
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I think hardware. but can be solved by software.
The touch panel is too sensitive?

orzech.miron said:
My Z1 also have this problem. After 40seconds i even didn't have to touch this two sides of phone.
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Yes. Sometime it is occurred without touching side panel.
Already reported a lot in japan.

router0520 said:
I think hardware.
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This is bad, so the Flagship Device is comming to be a Crap Device.
router0520 said:
..but can be solved by software.
The touch panel is too sensitive?
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How it's possible the problem of the touch screen is because is too sensitive? I hope there is a solution via software but for there is some lack of insulated between the touch screen and the rest of the phone. That why when you touch the frame the touch respond very badly.

eclyptos said:
This is bad, so the Flagship Device is comming to be a Crap Device.
How it's possible the problem of the touch screen is because is too sensitive? I hope there is a solution via software but for there is some lack of insulated between the touch screen and the rest of the phone. That why when you touch the frame the touch respond very badly.
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I think the screen react to very few electrostatic.like touching side panel.
so to make less sharp ,It will be ok. perhaps.

Confirm the problem in my device, hopefully a fix can be found, mine ain't so bad I guess cos it happens only when I press the sides
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Tried this several times on my Z1 (C6903 bought at launch) and i wasnot be able to reproduce this issue. Seems like this issue is only a problem on some devices.

veghov said:
Tried this several times on my Z1 (C6903 bought at launch) and i wasnot be able to reproduce this issue. Seems like this issue is only a problem on some devices.
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Actually, It is reported that replaced one has this issue too in Japan.
Sony don't recognize this issue yet!

I did a video by myself and I don't get it! Where is the problem? I mean where is the problem causing the touch screen failing to work. The only 1 thing what I am sure is if I leave the phone for 20, 30 seconds the issue show up with my touch screen with or without touch the aluminum frame.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNV_jat9Z5Y

eclyptos said:
I did a video by myself and I don't get it! Where is the problem? I mean where is the problem causing the touch screen failing to work. The only 1 thing what I am sure is if I leave the phone for 20, 30 seconds the issue show up with my touch screen with or without touch the aluminum frame.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNV_jat9Z5Y
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How bad it is ....nnn

router0520 said:
How bad it is ....nnn
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I really hope that this can be fixed. I think this is a hardware defect. much like with the N7 2013 fiasco

router0520 said:
Yes. Sometime it is occurred without touching side panel.
Already reported a lot in japan.
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Yes I would like to confirm this as well. I didn't even have to touch the side panel.

nizarnoor said:
Yes I would like to confirm this as well. I didn't even have to touch the side panel.
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I can attest to this one as well. Issue occurs especially when gaming and prolonged touch on the screen and without even touch the side panel.

brapicoco said:
I can attest to this one as well. Issue occurs especially when gaming and prolonged touch on the screen and without even touch the side panel.
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Exactly, I think we are close. The problem appear after long or prolonged use with the touch screen.

No issues here, i tested for like 20 minutes and its perfect here
No issues with games, paint or the service test
So maybe the C6906 doesn't have it?
Sent from my C6906 using Tapatalk

[Q] Display bad pixels?

Hello i have bought a used xperia Z. I noticed it has about 5 white stains on the display. You can only see the stains on light color (white,yellow,green etc.) Black color look normal. Are the white stains (dots ) on the display a big problem? It look a little bit like moisturized.Did anyone have similar problem? i will try to throw on photos later.Anyone similiar with this problem? Tried using dead pixel fix form play stor, it doesnt help anything.

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salata1500 said:
Hello i have bought a used xperia Z. I noticed it has about 5 white stains on the display. You can only see the stains on light color (white,yellow,green etc.) Black color look normal. Are the white stains (dots ) on the display a big problem? It look a little bit like moisturized.Did anyone have similar problem? i will try to throw on photos later.Anyone similiar with this problem? Tried using dead pixel fix form play stor, it doesnt help anything.
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they are stuck pixel sometimes working and sometimes ... and won't destroy other pixels (it s usual issue on lcd displays)
But if they are not annoying for ur eyes leave them cause fast flashing the screen and such solutions don't solve anything.
but sony will replace if it has warranty
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Geeks Empire said:
they are stuck pixel sometimes working and sometimes ... and won't destroy other pixels (it s usual issue on lcd displays)
But if they are not annoying for ur eyes leave them cause fast flashing the screen and such solutions don't solve anything.
but sony will replace if it has warranty
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Hi. very new big problem. My power button started working badly ( its taking clicks wrong) sometimes it counts as a click and the restart menu comed up and sometime it just doesnt react what do ? It is on warranty

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salata1500 said:
Hi. very new big problem. My power button started working badly ( its taking clicks wrong) sometimes it counts as a click and the restart menu comed up and sometime it just doesnt react what do ? It is on warranty
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it s used phone and i don't know what did happened for it
maybe last user modified it or was working not properly
so best choice is to take it to official service
however u can first use PC Companion app to repair firmware if these problems be in software this can solve all of them
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if it was helpful hit thanks

Geeks Empire said:
it s used phone and i don't know what did happened for it
maybe last user modified it or was working not properly
so best choice is to take it to official service
however u can first use PC Companion app to repair firmware if these problems be in software this can solve all of them
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if it was helpful hit thanks
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LOL the buttons work now correctly biggest problem is that iuf i put the display on full brightness it stars flashing and when it turns on the screen flashes really bad too

ghost touch possible solution?

hi everyone i post this to ask or confirm a situation, a lot of users know or have experiment the ghost touches and after a lot of research is not confirmed if is a issue of software or hardware, besides that i found a tip about the ghost touches if i conect a otg mouse during the fail and work a little with it the issue dont hapen and more, its solved after the next reboot when happens again.
have somebody trying that? or can confirm if it works for someone?
if this post its in wrong place please change it or copy to another location.
thanks
phone: xperia z1 C6906
rom: stock 5.1.1
kernel: stock no mods
screen/touch changed by chinese one

Apply tampered glass screen protector, it will reduce/eliminate ghost touche

I'm using tempered glass screen protector but the issue is still there. Well, it may reduce that a bit though.
There are many hassles. These Z1 family support pencil touch that causes unwanted touch.
And, the touchscreen panel and display is poor.

Try this
Try this, worked for me for a few days or weeks :
Apply pressure on the digitizer, specifically in the inferior part, just like a massage ( side by side) . . after a few seconds you can verify how it works . . The only point is, this solution is not permanent. This is a hardware problem .. the real solution is replacing the digitizer. Regards

bloodofJesus said:
You can try this, it worked for me on cm 12 with ghost touches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934500
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DL link in that thread is not working. Can you upload an APK?
Sent from my Z1

Display Touch Delay.

So I got the Sony Xperia SP today (Isn't really a new phone for this day but it's better then the old S3 mini) and I rooted it.
So everything went well (isn't the first device I root) but there is something that I really hate on it.
The touchscreen by it self has some kind of delay.
I turned on show touches, and I started up a game were you cannot afford any delay, the game is called VOEZ.
So after I touch a "note" in the game, I fail every single one because when I tap on the screen, it takes like a half second to register my touch.
Is there any way to get the delay lower or get rid of it? (For example, the s3 mini didn't had any delay and it's older so I guess there is some way to do it?)
Thanks.

Well, the delay might be caused by the ROM you're running.
Does the delay present on the ROM before you rooted it?

TechnoSparks said:
Well, the delay might be caused by the ROM you're running.
Does the delay present on the ROM before you rooted it?
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I found the problem by my self after searching for a bit longer.
For some reason the delay was there because in the display setting was Glove mode chacked.
I fixed it now. Thanks.

Fehleno said:
I found the problem by my self after searching for a bit longer.
For some reason the delay was there because in the display setting was Glove mode chacked.
I fixed it now. Thanks.
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And just for your knowledge.
The Xperia SP has a known bug, that it doesn't recponce on touch when it's on the horizon (like when its on the table)
For me flashing CM13 from stock fixes that problem