hi guys,
i need big help with my xperia Z. but 1st let me start my xperia story, 1st i wake up from bed i feels my phone temp really high something like 40deg or something then i turn off the phone hoping it's turn cool abit. but when i try to start the phone again i can see nothing come out. so i left it cool for 2 3 days then i can see it back to normal. when i put back the simcard it's turn off again. i have try many thing like update using sony pc companion but still the same and also i try using emma it's keep saying my phone is lock then i try flash using FlashTool64 also the process done but still won't turn on. but the wired thing is when i plug to charge it i can see logo symbol comeout but it's stop only when charging icon display. i attach my video here. hope u guys can help me up with this problem. so sad im using it only 2 month and this thing happen...
p/s :- i have send to sony centre at my place and the staff says he cant accept it cos its and AP(phone is not from my countries). they only can fix the phone buy from inside countries. it's make me feels sick with sony support in terengganu (malaysia).
please help me with this problem.. i miss my baby so bad.. .
thanks for read my Thread.
sorry i can't post url to my youtube video. only can tell how to see the video. on the search please type "Sony xperia z wont start booting" from Edy Ahmed.
thanks
Remove the charging cable and try to turn it on again.
Use the stock charger that came with the phone.
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gm007 said:
Remove the charging cable and try to turn it on again.
Use the stock charger that came with the phone.
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i have try the thing, but same thing happen. if i on my xperia z without plugin the charger cable it's totally can't start..
Without the sim card the phone boot?
Did you tried the hard shutdown(volume up + power for 15 seconds till you feel 3 vibrations)?
Did you tried to flash another firmware with flashtool?
Did you tried sony update service?
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gm007 said:
Without the sim card the phone boot?
Did you tried the hard shutdown(volume up + power for 15 seconds till you feel 3 vibrations)?
Did you tried to flash another firmware with flashtool?
Did you tried sony update service?
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1. done
2. done
3. i have try use this 1, C6603_10.1.A.1.434_Generic NL. but now if i try to flash i keep getting error
03/049/2013 22:49:46 - ERROR -
03/049/2013 22:49:46 - ERROR - Error flashing. Aborted
4. done
but still same :silly:
Use the latest flashtool from here http://androxyde.github.io/
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Use the latest flashtool from here
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i try to download it now, thanks dear! :good:
looks like still the same
I've had exactly the same problem, i've fully flashed first with Sony Update Service and i've re-downloaded the latest flashtool version and that's worked,
Also be sure that you have your smartphone correctly installed.
Have you tried?
QualQuek said:
I've had exactly the same problem, i've fully flashed first with Sony Update Service and i've re-downloaded the latest flashtool version and that's worked,
Also be sure that you have your smartphone correctly installed.
Have you tried?
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i have try using the latest flashtool version like gm007 give last nite. but i was shock abit cos see the phone back alife but just for 2 3 min. can u share me any 6603 ftf file? i try download buy the file take to long time to download from flashtools website (using torrent). btw the phone is from taiwan and now im in malaysia do i need to download the taiwan ftf or my countries?. can help me up?:highfive:
now my xperia z just show LED blue light only... sony symbol won't comeout... :crying:
triumx34 said:
now my xperia z just show LED blue light only... sony symbol won't comeout... :crying:
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I think something broke cause you use not the original charger.
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triumx34 said:
i have try using the latest flashtool version like gm007 give last nite. but i was shock abit cos see the phone back alife but just for 2 3 min. can u share me any 6603 ftf file? i try download buy the file take to long time to download from flashtools website (using torrent). btw the phone is from taiwan and now im in malaysia do i need to download the taiwan ftf or my countries?. can help me up?:highfive:
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No need a tft file from your country, just try to use Sony Update Service and see if that works
QualQuek said:
No need a tft file from your country, just try to use Sony Update Service and see if that works
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the phone alife but now problem with "sleep of death"..
can anyone help me?
it's dead again
triumx34 said:
it's dead again
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It's look-like you Hard-Bricked your phone our you damaged it by using a different cable...RIP
QualQuek said:
It's look-like you Hard-Bricked your phone our you damaged it by using a different cable...RIP
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it's alife again now. but i can see now problem with volume up button and i can't sleep the phone. if i sleep it i need to start the phone again. any idea? :highfive:
triumx34 said:
it's alife again now. but i can see now problem with volume up button and i can't sleep the phone. if i sleep it i need to start the phone again. any idea? :highfive:
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You should try to fully restore your phone and don't try to flash rom anymore or you'll brick it
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You should try to fully restore your phone and don't try to flash rom anymore or you'll brick it
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noob here, u saying fully restore means? using sony PC companions or sony Update Service? hmm... can show me some picture maybe?
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I know this sound like newbie and I start thinking I'm newbie right now.
Yesterday I have my Xperia Z (C6602) Region TH. flashed to DoCoMo and it was working perfectly except a little thing. It has a lot of bloatware so I managed to get root and uninstall a lot of them. Hour later OTA arrive so I install it and my phone stop the networking. 3G and Wi-Fi working really strange (I supposed to know this is Baseband problem not because I uninstall DoCoMo bloatware carelessly)
So I use Flashtool to flash DoCoMo (101.D.0.333) again and realized later that it was not my careless uninstall. It was OTA that kill my phone feature so I tried flash my region Firmware (10.1.A.1.434) to get the baseband back and flash DoCoMo fw without baseband again later.
And my problem starting from here. The phone not recognized on Flashtool (it say "Cannot identify your device") and it ask me to input what my model is (So I choose C660x) and it make my phone ready to flash once I put it to flashmode. But no, once I put it to flashmode flashtool itself couldn't recognize my phone is in the state ready to flashing so it keep saying my phone need to put in to flashmode by press Vol.down while plug the USB.
I have no idea how to fix this. I already tried uninstall-reinstall the USB driver. Try SO-02E driver (which is the same as Xperia Z) but it still not working.
And each time my phone reboot it keep asking me to choose the language and tell me to put the DoCoMo sim. Does this mean I need to put the sim first to make the phone pass the state on Unboxing?
All I need right now is to flash my region FW back first. (Or maybe find some way to make radio.zip from FTF). Should I root and put a recovery into my LOCKED bootloader and find some way to install radio?
First ask the Mod to move the thread to Q&A.
Are you using the latest flashtool beta6?
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First ask the Mod to move the thread to Q&A.
Are you using the latest flashtool beta6?
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Oh just saw that I really put it in a wrong section. And yes, I'm using Beta6. It was working fine until I flash it again today (was working after OTA, but no, not working for now)
bankkung said:
Oh just saw that I really put it in a wrong section. And yes, I'm using Beta6. It was working fine until I flash it again today (was working after OTA, but no, not working for now)
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Try with an older flashtool.
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Try with an older flashtool.
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have no idea why but it really work! Wanna give you a hug for help
Can you provide me old version of flashtool?
chesterr said:
Can you provide me old version of flashtool?
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http://goo.im/devs/jerdog/sony
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http://goo.im/devs/jerdog/sony
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Man You're fast, Thanks bro
i have flashed a wrong kernel and now my xperia z isn't booting up, after a long search i finally decided to try flashin ftf file, while flashing the tft - it comes and stops at the stage where it says 'no loader found for this device ' , device is detected - please help
Boot loader is locked is this the issue and my phone status isn't turning on - when holding start button it vibrate and nothing is happening, i tried volume + and start didn't help
please help can this be fixed
Dl sus and try with that!
Is it getting into flash mode?
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Doing it now , but how ?
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Dl sus and try with that!
Is it getting into flash mode?
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Is says device is ready to flash and comes up with error that i have attached i am realy sorry ;( i am not sure what DI SUS is , how do i do that ..
i will google it now anyway, small handy tips would be help full i can get you a beer if you wish
Buddingdev said:
Is says device is ready to flash and comes up with error that i have attached i am realy sorry ;( i am not sure what DI SUS is , how do i do that ..
i will google it now anyway, small handy tips would be help full i can get you a beer if you wish
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Does your FTF contain loader.sin? If not, use a complete FTF. This one for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
You could also try with Sony Update Service (SUS), but this program will wipe all your data.
Awhh noo loader.sin, U de bst
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Does your FTF contain loader.sin? If not, use a complete FTF. This one for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
You could also try with Sony Update Service (SUS), but this program will wipe all your data.
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Spot on !! i just checked in flashtool and i don't see loader.sin, guess that the issue is there any chance that i can import loader.sin and merge to TFT ? ignore if this sounds a dumb question ?? and can you confirm , my bootloader is locked any thing to do with that ??
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Spot on !! i just checked in flashtool and i don't see loader.sin, guess that the issue is there any chance that i can import loader.sin and merge to TFT ? ignore if this sounds a dumb question ?? and can you confirm , my bootloader is locked any thing to do with that ??
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dude...just grab a ftf.
from the general sec.
it will fix it.
and be sure to use the latest flashtool!
keep rocking..
Buddingdev said:
Spot on !! i just checked in flashtool and i don't see loader.sin, guess that the issue is there any chance that i can import loader.sin and merge to TFT ? ignore if this sounds a dumb question ?? and can you confirm , my bootloader is locked any thing to do with that ??
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I don't think there is anything to do with your locked bootloader. for ftf thing, there's some threads on subject of making your own ftf and you need to search the forum. but I recommend re-downloading a proper ftf again, it's easy if you have resonable fast internet access.
good luck.
Doing it doing SUS
niuniuaba said:
I don't think there is anything to do with your locked bootloader. for ftf thing, there's some threads on subject of making your own ftf and you need to search the forum. but I recommend re-downloading a proper ftf again, it's easy if you have resonable fast internet access.
good luck.
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Great Help !! thanks a lot .. ahh :/ internet speed, yo know how it is like in india crap speed between 6 to 11 ;( anyways i have complete back up so i am trying to do it through SUS and then re-root and update back up BTW !!! learning new things which builds more confidence , that's means trying new things and getting more trouble
Il update you the status once done
Stuck @ 740 MB ;(
niuniuaba said:
I don't think there is anything to do with your locked bootloader. for ftf thing, there's some threads on subject of making your own ftf and you need to search the forum. but I recommend re-downloading a proper ftf again, it's easy if you have resonable fast internet access.
good luck.
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Here i am after 2 hours of download it stuck at 740 MB and didn't go any further ;( i will try flashing ftf later , luck isn't favouring me yet..
Have patience
It will get ur way..i have brickd my z quite a few times!
But it is one hell of a player!
...
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Aka91 said:
Have patience
It will get ur way..i have brickd my z quite a few times!
But it is one hell of a player!
...
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Please suggest on what to 2 bhai
i have tried SUS for 3 hours and it stuck @ 740 MB , unpluged and retried it started downloading again.. 2 sleepless nights already
Gonnna try flashtool now with ftf don't know if that works
Do you advice me to try SUS once again ?? :/
Buddingdev said:
Please suggest on what to 2 bhai
i have tried SUS for 3 hours and it stuck @ 740 MB , unpluged and retried it started downloading again.. 2 sleepless nights already
Gonnna try flashtool now with ftf don't know if that works
Do you advice me to try SUS once again ?? :/
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I suggest that you should flash it with flashtool quickly cause later the battery will dry and the phone will be useless.
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;( really ?
gm007 said:
I suggest that you should flash it with flashtool quickly cause later the battery will dry and the phone will be useless.
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Useless really ?? please confirm .. I will try it again nothing is working to be frank i tried the flashtool and coming up as ' No loader found on device ' again , i tried two device ftf and still the same ;(
How long does the charge last , i think it got switched off when it was around 75% on Sunday evening, since then it didn't boot..
Shel i SUS once again ??
Buddingdev said:
Useless really ?? please confirm .. I will try it again nothing is working to be frank i tried the flashtool and coming up as ' No loader found on device ' again , i tried two device ftf and still the same ;(
How long does the charge last , i think it got switched off when it was around 75% on Sunday evening, since then it didn't boot..
Shel i SUS once again ??
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Are you using the latest flashtool version?
Exclude TA from flashing.
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;( didn;t work either
gm007 said:
Are you using the latest flashtool version?
Exclude TA from flashing.
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Please tell me this , can service center not help me as i am in warrenty ?
And how long can the battery last as it is already 30 hours
Exclude TA didn't help
Buddingdev said:
Please tell me this , can service center not help me as i am in warrenty ?
And how long can the battery last as it is already 30 hours
Exclude TA didn't help
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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Already tried
gm007 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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I have been trying the same since last night, almost sleepless
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I have been trying the same since last night, almost sleepless
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Remove and reinstall flashtool or try another pc.
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Help!!
gm007 said:
Remove and reinstall flashtool or try another pc.
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Sir, I have finally got some thing. when i try fast boot device lits blue LED. Can i flash using that ?
I jsut got up now i have this ftf's downloaded ' but can you let me know how to join this ftf files ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
Buddingdev said:
Sir, I have finally got some thing. when i try fast boot device lits blue LED. Can i flash using that ?
I jsut got up now i have this ftf's downloaded ' but can you let me know how to join this ftf files ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
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Use winrar or 7-zip.
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My sony xperia z is facing a wired problem.
After every shutdown i need a charger to start my phone again.
It keeps on restarting it self after it reaches to boot screen.
I have try to use custom kernels and roms and currently on 4.3 by taylor swift but still problem remains the same.
Hepl me plzzzzz as my Xp Z i brought from Dubai so cant go to service centers.
Why would you let the phone shutdown?
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Why would you let the phone shutdown?
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I want to get rid of the problem so i keep on checking it.
Is this problem related to Kernel or some chip problem?
If this is kernel related Plz suggest me kernel(not stock) and custom ROM (4.2.2) for my device.
I will revert back if or not i get my solution.
Your problem is the kernel.
Stock rom is the most stable.
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Your problem is the kernel.
Stock rom is the most stable.
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I thought so...
In this case would you plz suggest any kernel that best suit my Stock ROM.
Please provide link if possible:good::good::good:
phrkiranvirani said:
I thought so...
In this case would you plz suggest any kernel that best suit my Stock ROM.
Please provide link if possible:good::good::good:
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Stock kernel are included in stock firmwares,use flashtool to flash your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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Stock kernel are included in stock firmwares,use flashtool to flash your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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Thanks bro
But still facing same problem.
I am asking for Custom Kernel suggestions that can deal with this problem.
phrkiranvirani said:
My sony xperia z is facing a wired problem.
After every shutdown i need a charger to start my phone again.
It keeps on restarting it self after it reaches to boot screen.
I have try to use custom kernels and roms and currently on 4.3 by taylor swift but still problem remains the same.
Hepl me plzzzzz as my Xp Z i brought from Dubai so cant go to service centers.
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Have the same problem: "C6603 boot only with charger plugged in"
Dingoman10 said:
Have the same problem: "C6603 boot only with charger plugged in"
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Glad That I am not alone....
I have tried everything possible on the software part i.e installing roms and kernels....but no result
I think this might be problem from hardware side(Battery, its connectors etc)
When does your problem started?
and have you tried to replace battery?
phrkiranvirani said:
Glad That I am not alone....
I have tried everything possible on the software part i.e installing roms and kernels....but no result
I think this might be problem from hardware side(Battery, its connectors etc)
When does your problem started?
and have you tried to replace battery?
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As i wrote i sent it to a support company thats is certified by SONY.
My problem is there for three or four days.
I did not try to open the backcover becaus of warranty.
I hope that the company repairs my phone quickly and i can report what was the problem at the hardware.
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As i wrote i sent it to a support company thats is certified by SONY.
My problem is there for three or four days.
I did not try to open the backcover becaus of warranty.
I hope that the company repairs my phone quickly and i can report what was the problem at the hardware.
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When you get your phone repaired back...plss tell me what was the cause of the problem.
Thanks in advance...
phrkiranvirani said:
When you get your phone repaired back...plss tell me what was the cause of the problem.
Thanks in advance...
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If you will hit the "Thanks-Button" i will do
Dingoman10 said:
If you will hit the "Thanks-Button" i will do
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yes i will......:angel::angel::angel::angel:
phrkiranvirani said:
yes i will......:angel::angel::angel::angel:
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look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44651005#post44651005
when i charge the phone ..its led keeps on glowing red and it does not start ...what is the problem with it ? :/ PLEASE HELP!!!
i think ur battry is discharge completely charge it
ak.akshay said:
i think ur battry is discharge completely charge it
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I charged it for more than 15 hours!! Still its showing the red light and is not opening!
It might be soft bricked. Reflash the firmware in PCC.
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eagleeyetom said:
It might be soft bricked. Reflash the firmware in PCC.
Details please!!!
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No spoon feeding from my side. Think.
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Remove the back panel and there is a off button use a pen and press it firmly but not too hard for about 5-6 seconds see if that works
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If it is soft bricked 1st charge the phone well and flash a stock firmware using flashtool...
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ykdr-scott said:
Remove the back panel and there is a off button use a pen and press it firmly but not too hard for about 5-6 seconds see if that works
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Its not working :'(
tornado92 said:
If it is soft bricked 1st charge the phone well and flash a stock firmware using flashtool...
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Tried with flashtool but it cant find my phone connected via USB
repair it from sus
It also cant find my phone connected via USB
ak.akshay said:
repair it from sus
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zubein007 said:
It also cant find my phone connected via USB
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then also SUS may work
ashis.kyal said:
then also SUS may work
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Nothing working It just cant find my mobile connected via USB... When I connected via USB only red light showing up and nothing happen.
if ur using windows 7 then reinstall ur phone drivers
torkenu empiricus
Nothing working!! I have found on net that many users had faced this same problem with other xperia devices!! Just want to know the correct procedure to make it ON :'(
zubein007 said:
Nothing working!! I have found on net that many users had faced this same problem with other xperia devices!! Just want to know the correct procedure to make it ON :'(
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Are you on windows 7 or 8? If you are on windows 8 you have to disable something... Driver certificate enforcement or something I forgot ...
In order to turn it on, you press the power button. If that doesn't work, then that means something is wrong.
You have to install the drivers for ADB to flash stuff. Install Sony PC Companion and plug your phone in, see if it detects it
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Are you on windows 7 or 8? If you are on windows 8 you have to disable something... Driver certificate enforcement or something I forgot ...
In order to turn it on, you press the power button. If that doesn't work, then that means something is wrong.
You have to install the drivers for ADB to flash stuff. Install Sony PC Companion and plug your phone in, see if it detects it
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I am using Win 7 and how can I get ADB driver for Sony SP?
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I am using Win 7 and how can I get ADB driver for Sony SP?
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By using the Sony PC Companion and connecting your phone to the computer. It has to be switched on though usually, but just give it a shot.
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I am using Win 7 and how can I get ADB driver for Sony SP?
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http://adbdriver.com/ try downloading from here and then try again
Hi all, today I faced one problem and I don't know what to do.
I have rooted C6603 phone, and when I'm on Root Browser and changing anything - phone restarts and before bootup and screen turning on, RED LED shows up for couple seconds and then It normally starts. Can it be, that phone is going to brick itself ? I have installed SoftKey's (CWM).
Version : 4.1.2 - waiting for K.K.
Thanks for all suggestions or answers .
LaurynasVP said:
Hi all, today I faced one problem and I don't know what to do.
I have rooted C6603 phone, and when I'm on Root Browser and changing anything - phone restarts and before bootup and screen turning on, RED LED shows up for couple seconds and then It normally starts. Can it be, that phone is going to brick itself ? I have installed SoftKey's (CWM).
Version : 4.1.2 - waiting for K.K.
Thanks for all suggestions or answers .
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maybe it is bricked then...
just flash the stock 4.1.2 ftf using flashtool to recover
This sounds like the "remount reboot" issue.
Fix here.
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kingvortex said:
This sounds like the "remount reboot" issue.
Fix here.
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I'll try. So, if it bricked can I just flash it via Sony's update service ? Will it work then?
Yes. A repair via Sony Update Service or flashing an FTF with Flashtool will fix most problems that occur.
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kingvortex said:
Yes. A repair via Sony Update Service or flashing an FTF with Flashtool will fix most problems that occur.
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And what can happen If will not do anything? Will it brick itself after some time or what?
On the right way, I have camed off rubber from headphone claps, so, Can I pull that clap out without phone disassembly? I can clearly see in that little hole, that It have some fatter back, so, If i'll try to push it and get out, will it work without making seriously damage?
Thanks in advice.
It shouldn't just brick for no reason.
As for how to remove a flap, see post #2 in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600022
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kingvortex said:
It shouldn't just brick for no reason.
As for how to remove a flap, see post #2 in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600022
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Okay, thanks then. Moderators can lock thread now.