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[Q] Camera not that good?

So compared to my old galaxy skyrocket which has the same camera as the galaxy s2/galaxy s3
the htc one seems like a big step down
htc one: http://i.imgur.com/OgOrVYN.jpg?1
galaxy skyrocket: http://i.imgur.com/DEChRVh.jpg?1
why is it so much worse?
I have tried messing with the exposure levels and it still looks bad
any ideas?

jigglywiggly said:
So compared to my old galaxy skyrocket which has the same camera as the galaxy s2/galaxy s3
the htc one seems like a big step down
htc one: http://i.imgur.com/OgOrVYN.jpg?1
galaxy skyrocket: http://i.imgur.com/DEChRVh.jpg?1
why is it so much worse?
I have tried messing with the exposure levels and it still looks bad
any ideas?
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It has to do with the metering. One is affected because your screen is on in one of the photos and not in the other, so the exposure is affected.
You can Google metering in photography, it can help. Because when you tap to focus...
Ok try this. Go outside and find a tree on a sunny day. Focus on the darkest part of the tree and snap one. Then focus on the sky and snap one. Compare both.
I do believe that's the difference.
Sent from my HTC One

Often I find I have to set focus on a different area than I intended in order to achieve best results. I took a picture yesterday in the garden and it was blue skies and very sunny which meant I had to focus on the sky in order to darken the image, if I'd focused somewhere that was darker or actually where I'd wanted to focus, it would have being overexposed and just look washed out.
When you learn about the camera and how to take pictures with it you really can take some very good shots. Personally though I don't think the low light is all it's cracked up to be, looks as bad as it has on any phone tbh but then I rarely take pictures at night, only dirty ones of my wench and young girls through windows
This pic I think shows somewhat how good the camera can be, boring subject matter lol but I wanted to test the Macro mode ...

AllAboutTheCore said:
Often I find I have to set focus on a different area than I intended in order to achieve best results. I took a picture yesterday in the garden and it was blue skies and very sunny which meant I had to focus on the sky in order to darken the image, if I'd focused somewhere that was darker or actually where I'd wanted to focus, it would have being overexposed and just look washed out.
When you learn about the camera and how to take pictures with it you really can take some very good shots. Personally though I don't think the low light is all it's cracked up to be, looks as bad as it has on any phone tbh but then I rarely take pictures at night, only dirty ones of my wench and young girls through windows
This pic I think shows somewhat how good the camera can be, boring subject matter lol but I wanted to test the Macro mode ...
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Yea the camera is incredible, by far the best I've ever used on a phone. The thing is, if you havent noticed, this phones camera was kinda marketed to be a night life phone. The low light pics at a club or restaurant
But larger pixels means even better st capturing light in regular light, which u noticed makes a huge difference. Especially the added sharpness, exceptionnal. And the macro you took could even be better, you have to spend some time focussing it, I have a dslr, same thing.
Keep trying different types of shots, explore with the metering and white balance... You'll be surprised! You'll be a pro in no time!
Sent from my HTC One

[Q] Photos are 'dirty' with yellow/brown bars.

My Z is a few months old now, and has been functioning fine so far. Now and then though, the camera goes completely nuts- by taking photos with yellowish/brownish bars across it. The bars are visible on screen too. I can't figure out what's causing this (I've wiped the back panel), but it seems like it only happens for indoor shots, especially when the subject of the photo is close to the camera (about 20cm away).
Is this something to worry about? Are there many other users with the same problem, and should I send it in for servicing/ to get a replacement unit? It's still under warranty.
I'm on build 101.1.A.1.253, running stock 4.1.2, for what it's worth.

Get it replaced.
From me to you.

XperienceD said:
Get it replaced.
From me to you.
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Not sure if they provide replacements under warranty here, actually... did you have the same problem?

aprilius20 said:
did you have the same problem?
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No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.

XperienceD said:
No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.
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Yeah same here, it seems more the logical. The shop you bought it can't call that a good picture.

I done some research on this
this is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO 1600
This is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO100 (still a little brownish)
This is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO 400? With HDR ON
This is under sunlight @ ISO 1600 With HDR ON
I have tested also on ther condition, did not upload it/ deleted
but i can sort of deduce this
1. The brown bars are caused by the fluorescent lighting that have a frequency clash with the camera refresh rate.
2. The problem seems minimize at ISO100, appears slightly @ ISO200 but worsen once over ISO400
3. The pictures above is taken at close range ~ 8cm away with the phone place on an elevated box.
4. with fluorescent lighting, the HDR ON affect on as low as ISO100, and causes the ghost/double image and really tits up on higher ISO. This issue lessen with natural sunlight where the image maintain crisp until ISO 1600.
5. I cannot use the self timer as the flash light for the timer sometimes f-up the focus (this is a real f-up)
6. There are still other modes i have yet to test out such as burst etc

XperienceD said:
No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.
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Logical enough for me
mcchin said:
I done some research on this
1. The brown bars are caused by the fluorescent lighting that have a frequency clash with the camera refresh rate.
6. There are still other modes i have yet to test out such as burst etc
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I didn't bother testing as much as you did, but all that does seem to make sense! Did some searching and it seems like some Sony cameras have this problem (point and shoot, or DSLR, I can't remember). It is an indoor only thing like you said, under fluorescent lighting.
Wonder if this qualifies as a bug or a hardware limitation...

Camera Focus Problem

EDIT: So, I did some more testing and the fault seems to be with the focus of the camera. Initially when you open the camera app it auto focuses and this then leaves me with an out of focus picture and touch to focus never actually changes anything. I tested Camera FV-5 and this app has an option to disable auto focus, allowing me to take a picture without the camera ever focusing, this takes a perfect picture but if I touch to focus it goes out of focus just like the stock camera.
Obviously it is faulty as it no longer makes that click when you open the camera app, well it does, but only like once every dozen times the camera is opened (still out of focus btw) ... Macro shots work perfectly, focus is spot on but anything at a distance of about more than a foot or two away just seems to blur.
Below are a few more shots that highlight the error:
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It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike

sp5it said:
It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike
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Thanks for the reply .. So it's not faulty then? Just a big negative of having so few pixels, no matter how much light they let in?

IMO it is hardware problem.
Mike

AllAboutTheCore said:
Has anybody else had problems with blurry shots when not taking a picture of something close? I recently went to the coast for the day and decided to take some pictures from the cliffs and on the beach, all of which were just scenic pictures at distance (nothing close up or in particular that could/wanted to focus on) but they all came out blurry. I don't seem to have any issues when taking pictures of close up objects or when there's something in particular to focus on but anything else is just pathetic.
I compared them to my Sony digital camera from about 4 years ago the pictures were spot on compared to the One ... See a couple of examples below. I tried focusing on various parts aswell but still the pictures are terrible ... Does this sound like a fault with the camea or focusing part in particular, or is it just that the One takes terrible pictures when not close up?
Thanks for any input. (The ones in focus are from my digital camera and everything blurry is from the One)
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I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!

gustav30 said:
I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
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Lol, I don't have the caffeine issue but with regards to tests, I have done lotssssssssssss lol. Pictures I've taken close up, especially ones where I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.

AllAboutTheCore said:
I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike

sp5it said:
Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike
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I'm 99% sure it's software related and that's based purely on a test I just did with a 3rd party camera app and the stock one. I took the same shot with both camera apps and did nothing but let it auto focus and take the shot, one looks fine, the other looks blurry ... Doesn't take much guess work to figure out by these results, that it must be software based because both pictures use the same hardware
Check these 3 pictures. One is a nice close up with the stock camera on Sense, which looks very good. The other two pics are the two mentioned earlier, as you can see, stock Sense camera is blurry and out of focus but the 3rd party one is much, much better ...

Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
Mike

sp5it said:
Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
Mike
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They're not going to be full of detail, it's dull, I didn't adjust any settings, I didn't manually focus or adjust exposure and I took them from my room ... Through the window.
I didn't take them to capture detail, purely to show how two different camera apps using the same hardware, give completely different results when it comes to backgrounds not being blurred or out of focus. If it had been a nice day and scenic then the pictures would obviously have looked better but then my issue is with focus and blur on the Sense camera, not how little detail the HTC is capable of capturing when the conditions are anything but perfect.

My camera just seems to have issues staying focused, pictures aren't bad by any means though.

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I am on my 3rd HTC One M7 since April when I initially ordered. First two had gaps and poor build quality. I finally get a good build but have the same camera issue. Its all out of focus and bit blurred. I have reset to factory etc but no fix so its hardware problem.It's now on its way back for repair with P4U in the UK. Hopefully 4th time I will get a workable well built phone.

I seem to be experiencing the same issue. It didn't start happening until Sep. 14th. Did your issues start suddenly, or did your One always have this problem?
Here are some example shots:
Proper auto focus at a short distance
Improper auto focus from maybe 10 feet away
Improper auto focus from far away

And my phone issues, you can interview about the android4.2.2, perfect results, the focus is normal, close-range vision is normal, personal guess is driver problem, but no ability to solve, hope can help transplant drive.

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[Q] 4.4 and HDR

Okay, I did search to see if there were comments on this.
4.4 screwed up my HDR. HDR video is only slightly affected but HDR photos are normally worthless. It is no good for shots with truly bright areas. A sunny sky goes from blue to near white. Clouds disappear totally in a haze of white. Doing a factory reset helped somewhat but only a bit. Now if I only took pics at dusk and at night and never had light sources in the picture it might be fine but it´s not the case.
Has anyone else noticed this since their upgrades?
Attached you'll find a sample comparison (plus the original but renamed files).

It been that way since the 1st day i had it. We all know One is not really great in daylight.. easiest way to fix it is by select a low ISO (100 - 200) and choose a focus subject , then lock ae/af (long press subject/area when focus) and choose the hdr. Profit.
But it still not great as HOX hdr in daylight. But acceptable for me.
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Well, it used to be much better for me, quite nice in fact. I can't modify any settings with HDR. HDR ignores ISO and exposure settings, it will only focus.
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yellow photos

Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?

tainka said:
Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?
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i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.

Vihru said:
i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.
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The camera is great except this condition when the lighting is yellow. I tried on pro with 2800 white balance - it is the lowest, but it is still yellow.

Confirm. Also, in the room when illuminated by fluorescent lights, the colors also go crazy.

Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
/ Magnus

Magnus3D said:
Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
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ו tried it. The lowest is 2800. It is still very yellow.

on p30 the same problem with street lighting

For me white is white

White even if the corridor light on the right is a little yellowish with human eyes

I am making war to this phone for this ****ty yellowish tint on every photos made after sunset with street light, or even inside home with some light. I regret to not buy OnePlus again...
Taking same shot with OnePlus 3t (3yo phone) give the right color output. I can't believe that Huawei are not able to adjust and calibrate this sensor in a better way. Camera phone? Absolutely not... Not to mention the photo quality of wide angle when light isn't perfect, noise everywhere.
I hope will get better with Emui 10/Android 10

Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.

Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.

P30 series using RYYB sensor in main camera for collect 40% more light while other phone+camera using RGGB (basic primary colours).
so yeah, It's best for low light but you got yellow tint +warm color(red orange yellow) shift instead. I saw Huawei try to fixed it since 9.1.0.12x by software process but they can't
btw, They try again on Mate30 by put +UWA(RGGB) same pixel size at main cam(RYYB) (for color comparable on something? i'm not sure) while P30 main cam had different pixel size to UWA. but Mate30 can't take macro picture cause that bigger pixel.
look at this video for color shift problem
like China flag, flower, whatever that have red-orange-yellow color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZUCTRDuMEA
or this at 1.21 . Red color's chair turn into orange
+creepy penguin artifact at 8.13
https://youtu.be/Plst3HLrs4Y?t=81

chrisftlse said:
Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.
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Not always, but I notice that raising iso get worse. Honestly I think that software can help, expecially with AI.
I don't know the condition of the photos you posted but it's good

Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...

Leoxur said:
Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...
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AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?

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Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.
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i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
Regards

lemonade747 said:
AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?
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I know but a 1000€ cameraphone can't do this. Yes the problem Is still here.
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i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
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Yes, that Is what I thinks so, that Is why I'm mad ti Huawei. I can't belive that with lightroom in postproduction on JPEG file you can almost fix the Yellow tint, and the software Is not able ti do It himself, expecially with all the hype on AI. Is this AI so stupid?
Terminator Will kill me first ahahahaha

OldDroid said:
i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
Regards
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I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.

Leoxur said:
I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.
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Dear oneplus fanboy,
i don't actually carey since i have my own opinion, all op phones are struggeling to achieve any kind of similar zoom, picture quality and night pictures. If you are not happy about the yellow tint, fine, i can live with that little postprocessing "problem". Go rage about that elsewhere, i'm more than happy what the phone offers, and that matters - i had multiple phones, from oneplus to samsung, no way i go back. I'm glad to say i spend 700€ for my P30 Pro, and i do not regret a single thing - if you however feel it was a mistake, then be happy with your Oneplus 3T and stop whining about your "loss"
Regards