Is Cyanogen 10.1 ~ Is It Worth It? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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The short answer is: Yes, it's worth it. The difference between stock 2.1 and either Cyanogenmod 10.1 or Carbon is like night and day. Just being able to configure the homescreens the way you want is worth the small effort to install a new recovery and ROM on the HD+. You get a whole range of options of how you interact with your tablet (PIE, HALO, ribbons, etc.).
I've installed both CM10.1 and Carbon and prefer Carbon, but that's more of a personal thing. One nice thing is that my Galaxy Nexus is on Carbon, so I have just one interface for both of my mobile devices.

If you are not sure if you want to change the Nook, download the SDCard only version of CM10.1 it works great and will not touch your installed system.

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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Oh GOD yes!!! I just did it to my Plus and L♥VE it. I used this [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install updated 07/06 but [NOOK HD/HD+] Installing CyanogenMod 10.1 for Dummies is also easy to follow.
It makes the device so much easier to use. Its like my Galaxy Note 2 but bigger and I can now install the tablet app versions of the apps I have like SketchBook Pro. Win,win. :victory: The only two apps I lost were the Nook and Starbucks. Since my main reading app is Moon+ Reader Pro I didn't care and only sideloaded the Nook app to see if I could. I pay for my coffee with the Starbucks app on my phone so I don't need it on the Plus.
Just read through everything a few times until you're comfortable. It takes about 30 minutes or less.
I actually installed it twice because I wasn't feeling well the first time and was frustrated with the stock, it took wayyyyy to long. So the next day I reverted back to stock and did it again. Just to be sure (you know friends are going to ask me to root theirs). Honestly, easy peasy.
Once you do it you will wonder why you waited so long.
Now if I can get them to add the screen navigation buttons like I have on my Note 2, to get from screen to screen without swiping, I would be really happy. (hint, hint)

It took me two days before I setup the hybrid version. After a week or so I installed Carbon. It's great. My daughter left her's stock. I have no desire to return. Do the SD boot and check it out.
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jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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If you ask me CM 10.1 makes the Nook HD worth having, It runs as well, there are a few minor bugs in the scheme of things with none a show stopper, battery life is good, performance is good, movies music all play well, the Nook App still works plus you get the full tablet experience and customization. I have no plans to ever return to stock, unless a warranty situation arrives. I am running CM 10.1 in emmc, I never even bothered with running it on an SD card first. I had my nook less than a day before I put CM 10.1 on it.

jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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For myself, the answer is definitely a yes. It has much more functionalities after flashing to cm10.1. However, if you are only interested in reading book, web-browsing and sending emails. It may not be a bad idea to keep the stock rom as it's more stable and power efficient.

i was quite hesitant to do the cyangen mod because i had no experience with android devices. i started with sd card and then took the leap to native install.
benefits:
all google play apps
automatic backup of all to google
quick updating to new verions without losing any data
you can still download the nook app if you want
in short - it's great. don't bother with the dual boot solution.
especially now since the hd+ is being phased out by b&n - a versatile android os on top of good hardware is the way to go.

It is definitely worth it. I had stock os with "app from outside source enabled" mod on it for a while to test drive it. I had alot of my apps from Amazon store so I wanted to make sure everything was ok. Since this solution was great, it still felt a little bit limited so I said to myself, why not just go all the way since I was keeping it.
I did it and never looked back.

For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.

MonaLisaOverdrive said:
For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.
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If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
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leapinlar said:
If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yeah...I found v8 of the ROM after the two+ hour search/parse forums yesterday. Basically had enough time to install it and do some basic configuration before I collapsed, so I forgot to come back and delete this post .
On the plus side, sleep battery life is excellent! Unplugged the Nook immediately after installing the ROM and syncing my main Google account. It dropped 6% while I was configuring some apps and settings, but did not drop at all while in sleep mode overnight.
Now time to start researching, then testing and building . Would anyone be interested in a working Scheme interpreter or nano editor?

I would love to see nano
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testlab said:
Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
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I was a stock user with Nova for a week and found it too limited. I guess it depends what you want to do with it.

I sometimes run Stock from an SD card on my HD+. When running stock, you can access all your apps without another launcher. From the Apps screen simultaneously touch "Apps" and hold down Vol down.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc

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What's the better way to have the tablet/ereader combo?

So I want to use my Nook as an ereader but I also want to use it as a tablet. I quite like the ebook reader on the stock firmware but if there's a standalone app that's just as good I wouldn't see a reason to not use CM7. I guess my real question is should I use the stock firmware to have the best ereading experience I've had and have it rooted to run different apps or use CM7 with some other ereading app that will give me good experience reading while being a "full" Android tablet?
The Nook App with CM7 is really a nice experience. I, for one, really dig the page turn animations on the Nook App.
dsf3g said:
The Nook App with CM7 is really a nice experience. I, for one, really dig the page turn animations on the Nook App.
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It's a nice experience but it still has it's bugs and serious ones at that. You have to be prepared for occasional freezes.
use CM7 off a SD card...That is what I do and it works really well. I like the stock nook for reading, looking at color mags and for going into BN store to read the freebies...
jacjar1 said:
use CM7 off a SD card...That is what I do and it works really well. I like the stock nook for reading, looking at color mags and for going into BN store to read the freebies...
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I finally surrendered with the CM7 on SD, a few bothersome bugs; I went with the rooted Ver 1.2.0 which gives me the advantages of stock and lots of enhancements, and the battery lasts longer too.
jim
Running Phirrmod 6.2 with Nook app and have no issues.Page turn animations actually work unlike the stock reader.In my opinion this is by far the most stable rom for the Nook.Reading,games,Netflix & movies.No force closes or freezes.
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Who uses NC as Tablet?

Im kinda curious... how do you guys use your Nook?
Did you ditch retail os for cm? Do you use both?
I did, running on nothing but cm.
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CM only, waiting for CM9
I emmc dual boot stock and CM7. Only reason I still have stock at all is for the kids interactive books.
CM only. Been running ICS since the source were first pushed/I learned to compile.
Dual booting BN 1.4.1 on eMMC for subscriptions and Conde Nast pubs, with CM (Mirage) on SD. Probably going back to CM on eMMC soon.
After many variations on my emmc and sd card, I finally settled for MN 1.3 which allows full BN software access (especially "read in store" which I use to offset no ebook discounts or coupons) and relatively unimpeded Market access on the "Zeam" side.
I recently updated it with 5.12.20 which (though designed for 1.4.1) installed with no problems and has not caused any issues.
One major plus with it is that I can now use HBO Go! The image is not quite as good as Netflix but is certainly acceptable.
Use very few apps on the BN side with almost all app usage on the "Zeam" side.
Very pleased with the current setup.
Now, if I could just figure out how to stretch the screen to 8.9 inches all would be right with the world!
Having never set up MN, how do you switch from Zeam to stock when in use?
Comes up as option (which side do you want to use type of thing) when you finish booting or whenever you press the "N" button.
From 12/2010 until around 8/2011 I used my NC as my tablet, but also read quite a bit on it, using CM7 most of that time. I got a Dell Streak 7 in August, and mostly the NC got dusty in the meanwhile.
But now I've been playing with it again quite a bit with ICS on it.
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From 12/2010 until around 8/2011 I used my NC as my tablet, but also read quite a bit on it, using CM7 most of that time. I got a Dell Streak 7 in August, and mostly the NC got dusty in the meanwhile.
But now I've been playing with it again quite a bit with ICS on it.
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Been using the ICS Kang from fattire and dalingrin?
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I got my nook yesterday and it's already rid of stock.
I couldn't find any use for it, JUST books. And I can download an Android e-reader so why bother? I love mine on CM, I'm waiting on a second memory stick to convert my mom's as well. She's made because mine is hacked and has so many more functions and hers isn't
CM only on mine. I'm pretty sure most of the other people here are using CM as well.
Sent from space
I purchased a refurbished NC a month ago for $119 (?) and on first boot installed CM7 on emmc.
Use it primarily as a reader with Kindle, Zinio, news via browser and a weekly publication i get in PDF format.
Sent from my massive beautiful Samsung Infuse using Tapatalk.
Boy, I use my nook for everything. I have run every rom out there. Currently running MIUI. Read news, Facebook, books, play games, listen/watch podcasts, watch Netflix and TV.com, use it as a personal planner - email, calendar and task list, use educational apps for my kids and grandkids, surf pinterest, and on and on. I have so many apps that i had to expand my data image to 2 GB. My whole life is on my nook! I'm a 53 year old grandma and feel pretty proud that at my age I've hacked nooks for myself and 4 others. They are as hooked on their nooks as I am.
Sent from my NookColor using xda premium
I use mines as an oversized remote controlled controlling my xbmc setup =D
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Miui rom with Zeam launcher from SD, but I will install CM or Miui to emmc since we can't use the B&N store in Europe.
My family members are using the Nook as an ereader, checking mail and for Facebook. I use it also as my portfolio for clients showing still photographs and 360° panorama images.
redhawk79 said:
Been using the ICS Kang from fattire and dalingrin?
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I've been using the ICS Cyanogen repository and building it per their instructions, yes.
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I've been using the ICS Cyanogen repository and building it per their instructions, yes.
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So I have been away from the forums for a few months (maybe more, heh). Where can I find more info on this build?
I've had my Nook for a year, and although it's been rooted, I only used it as an ereader. I just installed CM7 on it today, and I still plan to use only reader apps on the device. I like the freedom of being able to customize the device any way I want. CM7 is great, but my NC will still be used mainly as a reader.
I am dual-booting Nook 1.4.1 and CM7, but I spend most of my time on CM7

[Q] New to the Forum, Touchpad in mail!

Hey guys,
I just ordered my Touchpad today, should be here by the end of the week. It is used and the previous owner had ICS running on it I believe. My question is, what would you guys suggest I do once I receive it? Upgrade to JB? Any certain mods or kernels that everyone uses now? Just trying to familiarize myself with the Touchpad forums so I can get right on what I need to do once it comes in.
Thanks
Roms for touchpad
aujbman said:
Hey guys,
I just ordered my Touchpad today, should be here by the end of the week. It is used and the previous owner had ICS running on it I believe. My question is, what would you guys suggest I do once I receive it? Upgrade to JB? Any certain mods or kernels that everyone uses now? Just trying to familiarize myself with the Touchpad forums so I can get right on what I need to do once it comes in.
Thanks
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There are multiple roms for hp touchpad users and each have there own weaknesses and strengths
The best way to familiarize yourself with rom types is to download the free app goomanager in the play store.
It will help you get the roms
In my perspective i beleive that the rom in the attachments is the best
It has no visible bugs and works smoothly on Hp touchpad
Mic works
Camera works- 1.3M
Cm 10 is new and beta so i would not recommend it
Try the one that is recommended in text file
Happy Flashing
[email protected] said:
There are multiple roms for hp touchpad users and each have there own weaknesses and strengths
The best way to familiarize yourself with rom types is to download the free app goomanager in the play store.
It will help you get the roms
In my perspective i beleive that the rom in the attachments is the best
It has no visible bugs and works smoothly on Hp touchpad
Mic works
Camera works- 1.3M
Cm 10 is new and beta so i would not recommend it
Try the one that is recommended in text file
Happy Flashing
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Thanks a lot for the rom suggestion. Any other suggestions (from you or anyone else) regarding kernels, overclocking, any particular apps that run really well on these tablets or any apps that are great for tablets that aren't so much for phones...? If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
aujbman said:
... If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
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Westlaw (Next, not classic) has a meh app (basically a glorified mobile web app), but text is much easier to read on a bigger screen. LexisNexis doesn't have one as far as I know. Google Drive is good for documents.
I don't agree that CM10 is not ready as a daily driver. I use it as one and have since the latest preview came out. That's something you will probably need to try for yourself.
bananagranola said:
Westlaw (Next, not classic) has a meh app (basically a glorified mobile web app), but text is much easier to read on a bigger screen. LexisNexis doesn't have one as far as I know. Google Drive is good for documents.
I don't agree that CM10 is not ready as a daily driver. I use it as one and have since the latest preview came out. That's something you will probably need to try for yourself.
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Thanks. I have both (Westlaw and Google Drive) on my phone and will definitely be carrying them over. How about running Ubuntu? Any pros/cons when using for my purposes??
aujbman said:
Thanks. I have both (Westlaw and Google Drive) on my phone and will definitely be carrying them over. How about running Ubuntu? Any pros/cons when using for my purposes??
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I've never run Ubuntu on any hardware (Arch) and I use only CM10 on my TP, so I can't really speak to that. Maybe someone else here who is running Ubuntu on the TP can help you out. I would imagine that the software repositories in Ubuntu could be helpful, like LibreOffice or a LaTeX editor, but I'm not sure how that would work out on a touchscreen.
Apps
aujbman said:
Thanks a lot for the rom suggestion. Any other suggestions (from you or anyone else) regarding kernels, overclocking, any particular apps that run really well on these tablets or any apps that are great for tablets that aren't so much for phones...? If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
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over clock with rom manager
95% of the apps in play will be compatibe with hp touchpad on this rom
the only app that i couldn't install is vice city
Office suite is a great app that can edit documents, powerpoints, excell sheets ext.
"There's an app for that!"
Ubuntu is too slow to use as a daily driver unfortunately.
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[Q] HDMI & CM 10.2 9/14 nightly

I am thinking about buying the hdmi cable for my Nook HD and before I do I was wondering if anyone is using it with CM 10.2?
Or do I need to go back to 10.1?
Thank you
Mark
I guess no one has tried hdmi with CM10.2 yet
CM 10.2 is working flawless right now so will wait until I hear if hdmi will be supported at all.
Sent from my BN Nook HD using Tapatalk 4
I have used the HDMI cable with an n2a card. The moment that I made the connection the screen turned black and the nookhd+ did a reset to native nook mode. So it seems only to work in that mode.
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RuudSnikkenburg said:
I have used the HDMI cable with an n2a card. The moment that I made the connection the screen turned black and the nookhd+ did a reset to native nook mode. So it seems only to work in that mode.
Sent from my NookColor using xda app-developers app
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what's an n2a card? I presume that is not the B&N adaptor right?
An n2a card is a commercialy available sd card with android version 4.2 on it.
I don't use it anymore because stock NookHD+ works fine for me.
Since the Google appstore is on it I don't see the need to fiddle with it.
In other threads I saw posts that the HDMI works with rooted HD+ but with some flaws..
I got two responses to this question when I posted in the 10.2 thread. Two "it works" comments using the B&N HDMI product.
m509272 said:
I got two responses to this question when I posted in the 10.2 thread. Two "it works" comments using the B&N HDMI product.
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Thank you very much. I must have missed that posting.
:thumbup:
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Picked up the hdmi adapter at local Wal-Mart on clearance for $15.99, great price, if they had more then the one I bought, I would have grabbed more at that price.
It works fine with CM 10.2
Sent from my BN Nook HD using Tapatalk 4
snoozer854 said:
Picked up the hdmi adapter at local Wal-Mart on clearance for $15.99, great price, if they had more then the one I bought, I would have grabbed more at that price.
It works fine with CM 10.2
Sent from my BN Nook HD using Tapatalk 4
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thanks for your report! both video and audio are fine? no lags or dropped frames on the screen? I read that cm 10.2 does not disable the nook screen while playing and that can cause slow response
thanks!
PD off topic: how's battery life on cm?
Guiyoforward said:
thanks for your report! both video and audio are fine? no lags or dropped frames on the screen? I read that cm 10.2 does not disable the nook screen while playing and that can cause slow response
thanks!
PD off topic: how's battery life on cm?
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It would be nice if the screen would turn off when hooked up, but that isn't that big of a deal to me.
As far as lag, when I use the ABC or CBS app I get no lag, but when using Crackle I do see some lag every so often, but it isn't enough to get worried about.
I do have I guess what is considered a slow internet speed compared to most, 3 megs download, if it was higher I don't see lag as being a problem, "of course your mileage may vary" would like to update my speed, but live on a fixed income & it works for me.
I think the battery time is much better then stock was, but of course when hooked up to the tv I have it plugged in. I have never actually kept track time wise on how long the battery time is.
Hope this was some help to you
Mark
snoozer854 said:
It would be nice if the screen would turn off when hooked up, but that isn't that big of a deal to me.
As far as lag, when I use the ABC or CBS app I get no lag, but when using Crackle I do see some lag every so often, but it isn't enough to get worried about.
I do have I guess what is considered a slow internet speed compared to most, 3 megs download, if it was higher I don't see lag as being a problem, "of course your mileage may vary" would like to update my speed, but live on a fixed income & it works for me.
I think the battery time is much better then stock was, but of course when hooked up to the tv I have it plugged in. I have never actually kept track time wise on how long the battery time is.
Hope this was some help to you
Mark
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I only stream using netflix and the HDMI adapter and from my experience, Stock 2.1.1 streams netflix flawlessly while using cm 10.1.3, there are stutters, temporary video lockups and etc. That is why I now have cm10.1.3 on emmc and Stock 2.1.1 on an SD card. I use CM for most of my tablet experience, then boot to stock 2.1.1 to read my magazines and newspapers and watch netflix. BTW, same issues with cm10.2 when I had that on emmc.
I do not know if the same issue exists with Crackle, HuluPlus, etc as I have not tried those. But for me, Stock is the only way to stream Netflix to my Sammy PDP without any issues. YMMV

Google Now Problem

T.L.D.R. VERSION: Google Now not speaking out loud. 4 year old :sadface:
Hello. Today I bought a new Nook HD for $79. My daughter has always wanted a tablet and the deal was too good to pass up, so since her birthday is coming up soon, I bought one. Problem I am having is that whenever I use voice search google now answers me, but not out loud. If I ask how tall Kobe Bryant is, it will tell me. It will show his card. It will not, however, speak out loud. This presents a problem because Isabella is 4 years old this week, she can't read! It would be awesome beyond measure if she could ask her tablet questions and get answers, but if it is only going to show cards, she won't be able to do this
I do have the option enabled in Chrome and every setting I can find pertaining to it. But it just doesn't seem to work. I am not rooted or anything, just installed Nova Prime and and using that as my launcher. Aside from that, everything is stock.
I wish I could help. I have an HD+ with a custom ROM and it seems to work as intended. Thanks for showing me a feature I didn't know it had!
Landara said:
I do have the option enabled in Chrome and every setting I can find pertaining to it. But it just doesn't seem to work. I am not rooted or anything, just installed Nova Prime and and using that as my launcher. Aside from that, everything is stock.
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In Chrome? What about in Google Now?
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Sherip said:
In Chrome? What about in Google Now?
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GNow isn't working either. It opens chrome to display the answers. In a new tab.
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GNow isn't working either. It opens chrome to display the answers. In a new tab.
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Check settings in the Google Search app. There you can enable Google Now and Voice Output. I'm not sure the B&N version of android is compatible, supposedly you need android 4.1 or higher.
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