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Phone trading question

I bought my cappy from Amazon for a Penny with the stipulation that I keep it on my account for 180 days. My question is, if I were to trade it, how whould they find out? My brother wants to try out my phone for a couple of weeks and I'd be using his iPhone 3Gs

i do not see any problems here.

mengbo said:
i do not see any problems here.
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Neither do I but Amazon stated they can slap me with a $250 fee if I don't keep the phone for 180 days so I didn't want to do it.

They won't know if your just swap your SIM out into a new phone. But.. I dunno if it would work due to Apple just being different

The iphone data plan is a different data plan. When I switched from my iphone to the captivate, my data plan didn't work until I called att to get my data plan fixed.
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Thanks for your insights. So if I get the iphone data plan added to my acct I'm screwed? Guess I'll tell him no.
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drwx said:
The iphone data plan is a different data plan. When I switched from my iphone to the captivate, my data plan didn't work until I called att to get my data plan fixed.
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Wow, iCrap is really wrapping things tight. I switched from my blackberry to the captivate and nothing had to change. In fact I still have the BB Personal Unlimited w/texting on my plan today and have even made changes (like killing visual voice mail) and have not had issues or questions. (and yes my account now shows the captivate, they picked it up after the first day of use and changed the phone listed on my account) I'm not saying the iPhone isn't diff, it just kills me that they have to be such pricks about their crap.

Verizon extended the free hotspot

http://gulfstreamcleaning.com/verizon-extends-free-hotspot-to-htc-thunderbolt/4724/
Thought id share. Hope its not old news.
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Thanks for sharing.. this is good news!
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Today is a good day, gingerbread and another 30 days of the stock wifi tether. Can't ask for more..
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Love it! I just wish we had LTE in my area :-(

I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.

mandog202 said:
I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.
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It's a free promotion and it says it when you use the hotspot. They can't charge you or sign you up for something during a free promotion. When I spoke to Verizon they said it will be some kind of notification (they don't know what yet) sent out that the promotion is over. I tried to opt out before the end of the promotion and both reps couldn't find a way because they didn't have anything to opt me out except a note on my account.

mandog202 said:
I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.
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Ummm instead of falling for their plan and adding tethering and getting tiered data.... Root the phone and wait for someone to crack the app so it doesn't "talk" to Verizon
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superchilpil said:
Ummm instead of falling for their plan and adding tethering and getting tiered data.... Root the phone and wait for someone to crack the app so it doesn't "talk" to Verizon
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it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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It's a free promotion and it says it when you use the hotspot. They can't charge you or sign you up for something during a free promotion. When I spoke to Verizon they said it will be some kind of notification (they don't know what yet) sent out that the promotion is over. I tried to opt out before the end of the promotion and both reps couldn't find a way because they didn't have anything to opt me out except a note on my account.
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So if I was already signed up for tethering on my account before switching to the tb, it should automatically go back on it once the promotion is over without having to change my plan?

Whatever you had on your plan should carry over, Tethering and all.

mandog202 said:
it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
So if I was already signed up for tethering on my account before switching to the tb, it should automatically go back on it once the promotion is over without having to change my plan?
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If we were to add the tethering on to your account you will c the charge....it will not show the soc for tethering until after the promotion is over next month. So you are correct by saying the tethering did not roll over because as far as your billing is concerned it did not roll over because it's a different soc than ur 3g hotspots....if u choose to keep or "add" tethering it will not effect your unlimited data so no worries

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If we were to add the tethering on to your account you will c the charge....it will not show the soc for tethering until after the promotion is over next month. So you are correct by saying the tethering did not roll over because as far as your billing is concerned it did not roll over because it's a different soc than ur 3g hotspots....if u choose to keep or "add" tethering it will not effect your unlimited data so no worries
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ah ok. Couldn't help but be paranoid about it, after what AT&T did when they went tiered last year, although they didn't offer tethering before then for the iPhone, but if you wanted tethering when they added it you had to give up unlimited data.

mandog202 said:
it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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I always felt it was more people like you as too why people like us have to find a way to get our phones tethering the way we want it and deserve it: FREE.
The majority allow Big Red and AT&T to tell us this is how it will be pay it or don't have it. And people complain about it but still shell out the money to these companies. If more people stood together we'd get things change. Lest that's how it used to be. Now most are too busy bending over to the companies to stand up to them.
Mah BAMF Thunderbolt

mandog202 said:
it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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WRONG do you remember when Verizon rolled out 3g data service back in the day and it was tiered at first as well? It was long before there were apps for tethering and before a majority of people even knew what tethering was. It's their way of making more money.

iwanaleya said:
WRONG do you remember when Verizon rolled out 3g data service back in the day and it was tiered at first as well? It was long before there were apps for tethering and before a majority of people even knew what tethering was. It's their way of making more money.
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Eh you are stretching it there...yeah they had "tiers" but there was always an unlimited data option and lower options, like there are now. With the new tiered plans there won't be an unlimited data anymore...it will be how ATT is currently charging for their data.

Sprint did good - Non-HTC Related

I just called Sprint because my mom uses an LG Optimus S™
She consumes about 5-6 mb of data per month, but since it's a "smartphone" she has to get charged the $10 fee.
Well, I called in after having been with the phone for a couple of months and asked (Not told) if I had to pay for the fee since she only consumes about 5-6mb of data and doesn't really utilize the phone to its capabilities.
After putting me on hold of a min or two, she came back and told me that they evaluated her account and data consumption and will issue a $10 credit monthly to cover that.
I was reminded a couple of times that I should be paying for it because of the type of phone. Also, once I switch to a new phone the discount will be voided.
Still, their customer service really helped out. That's a $120+(taxes) yearly savings.

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I just called Sprint because my mom uses an LG Optimus S™
She consumes about 5-6 mb of data per month, but since it's a "smartphone" she has to get charged the $10 fee.
Well, I called in after having been with the phone for a couple of months and asked (Not told) if I had to pay for the fee since she only consumes about 5-6mb of data and doesn't really utilize the phone to its capabilities.
After putting me on hold of a min or two, she came back and told me that they evaluated her account and data consumption and will issue a $10 credit monthly to cover that.
I was reminded a couple of times that I should be paying for it because of the type of phone. Also, once I switch to a new phone the discount will be voided.
Still, their customer service really helped out. That's a $120+(taxes) yearly savings.
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That $10 fee is mandatory for smart phones its the data package for it in lames term everyone should pay for it and you shouldn't be excluded from that I mean I know you use a lot of data so do I. They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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jazz995756 said:
They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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I pay for my data, but the statement wasn't about my data.
If you read what I wrote, my mother uses 5-6 mb.
That's not a lot. If anything that is just GMail syncing.

robfactory said:
I pay for my data, but the statement wasn't about my data.
If you read what I wrote, my mother uses 5-6 mb.
That's not a lot. If anything that is just GMail syncing.
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Thought that said GBs lol sorry my phone is being weird but that's pretty decent I tried doing that with one of my lines since the internet is almost always off but the excuse they gave me is even when the internet is off the phone still consumes data
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jazz995756 said:
That $10 fee is mandatory for smart phones its the data package for it in lames term everyone should pay for it and you shouldn't be excluded from that I mean I know you use a lot of data so do I. They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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Try talking to them now and mention the fact that they can trace the line the previous months to see the data pattern.
Since my mom doesn't even text, she can see this feature is lost on her.
I guess that's why they did it. I also have a business account with 6 lines, so that could have factored in to their decision.

I just called customer service today and they moved my upgrade up two weeks. So both my fiance and I got to upgrade our phones today. I was really impressed for how willing they were to satisfy us.
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I'm on WiFi all the time cause the service sucks, I should get a credit too. 3G is not usable around me

FrozenRiff said:
I'm on WiFi all the time cause the service sucks, I should get a credit too. 3G is not usable around me
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You're in LA and you're not getting great service? Didn't they just drop a boat load of LTE all over you out there?

eXplicit815 said:
You're in LA and you're not getting great service? Didn't they just drop a boat load of LTE all over you out there?
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I'm on the outskirts of LA County but still within its borders. Not in the actual city
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There are a couple models where they comp the premium data fee, like the Replenish. Might want to have your mom get one of these units instead, if they are available when she upgrades.

gobaers said:
There are a couple models where they comp the premium data fee, like the Replenish. Might want to have your mom get one of these units instead, if they are available when she upgrades.
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Yeah, they told me that. I'm bidding on one as a back up.

Originally the 10 dollars a month was a WiMAX surcharge, only charged to people with WiMAX phones... A couple months to a year later they renamed it to "premium data" and started charging all smart phones, which is a joke because they barely have any phones that aren't considered a "smart phone" anymore.

I have been with Sprint for 14 years and believe me I have had my share of ups and downs with their Customer Service Department. I have a fairly large account with them (8 phones) and have always managed to resolve issues. Sometimes I didn't get everything I was asking for, but was satisfied in the end.
Basically it's their plan pricing that keeps me a customer. As many have stated, their service in my area is not the greatest but having compared plans with other carriers I simply couldn't afford them.

Note 3 AT&T $35 Data Plan... Add Minutes?

I was able to order the Note 3 for AT&T $289 + 24 months @ $35 a Month 3G Data Plan .. No other costs just $35 a Month !! BUT I need to figure away to add "some Talk minutes.. 100 Minutes a Month or so.
I thought was going to be able to use Wifi calling but now realize ATT doesn't offer WiFi Calling.. will any Wifi calling on Google Play work?
Haven't received the Phone yet ..should arriveTuesday

You should have gotten it on the next program bro.
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Jammol said:
You should have gotten it on the next program bro.
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What Next Program? Details please

not sure what plan your on. thats not an option i have ever heard of since the old blackberry data only days.
but you could use google voice and an alternitive.

Google Voice + GrooVe IP
Your plan sounds iffy though.
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What Next Program? Details please
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http://consumerist.com/2013/07/18/w...s-new-early-upgrade-programs-are-a-fools-bet/

My next Pegram is cheaper than most. Cheaper than a regular 2 year contract. I get a monthly discount on my bill.
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not sure what plan your on. thats not an option i have ever heard of since the old blackberry data only days.
but you could use google voice and an alternitive.
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$35 Data Plan.. Here's the catch you cant order like that from AT&T ..I'll post in a few days where I got it after I gte the Phone and get it activated the Phone(If it's a error I don't want them closing it before I activate)
But basically it looks like it was considered a tablet and therefore qualified for just data plan
Right Now I use T Mobiles $30 a Month Data Plan on a LG 9 ..that Plan comes with $100 minutes.. with is perfect but I wasn't able to order the Note 3 for it.
So the idea is after 180 days I can terminate the att plan pay $300 early termination fee and take the Phone to the T Mo $30 plan so I get the talk minutes..(simply order the pre paid sim card)
In the End I am paying $689 for the Phone but never more than $35 a Month for service(and that's the point... not paying $80 a month)
Yeah I am hoping Google Voice will work in the meantime.If Not I may have to live with Aim

It would probably work if you had the tmobile note 3. Att will be able to detect the att note 3 imei and put you on the correct plan probably. But good luck
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Google Voice Phone, a newer program from Google, is already up and running on my AT&T note 3. It works just fine to make and receive calls on a Wifi network.
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Use this for calls works amazing on my wifi tablets
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snrblabs.grooveip
I did buy the paid version shortly after using the free version that was a long time ago so I'm not sure what the difference is. Hope that works out for u
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dumbquestion said:
Google Voice Phone, a newer program from Google, is already up and running on my AT&T note 3. It works just fine to make and receive calls on a Wifi network.
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That's good to know ..thanks !

Jammol said:
My next Pegram is cheaper than most. Cheaper than a regular 2 year contract. I get a monthly discount on my bill.
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I dont understand how next is cheaper... Its better if you want to swap and get a new phone every year but that is expensive too.
Lets compare...
Regular contract - x$ for plan + 299 for phone + 35 activation = 334+x $ For a 2 year plan but most often they let you upgarde at 20 months
Next program - Still pay x$ for plan + Full price of phone ( eg note 3) = 700 + x$ For a 20month period..
Unless i am missing something big

aalupatti said:
I dont understand how next is cheaper... Its better if you want to swap and get a new phone every year but that is expensive too.
Lets compare...
Regular contract - x$ for plan + 299 for phone + 35 activation = 334+x $ For a 2 year plan but most often they let you upgarde at 20 months
Next program - Still pay x$ for plan + Full price of phone ( eg note 3) = 700 + x$ For a 20month period..
Unless i am missing something big
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I get a percentage discount on my monthly bill each month for a full year. A supervisor cussed at me when I was trying to get my note 3 on the phone. They kept telling me they would call me to order the phone but no one ever called. Happened 4 days in a row so when I got to talk to a supervisor we got in an argument and she let the F word slip.
That's why my post said "my next program is cheaper than most."
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Poop.. Ok Guys ..yep they seen what I was doing and canceled my Order.. If you Go to Walmart .. Check Att ..The Note 3 ..Click the "Shop Now" button..when you see the " 900Talk
$59.99per month
Change This Plan Click the Change This Plan link and you'll see it ALLOWS you to select the $35 Data Plan and proceed to checkout..
Today I went to check the Order and I get a" Call Customer Service " .. damn so close

dauction said:
Poop.. Ok Guys ..yep they seen what I was doing and canceled my Order.. If you Go to Walmart .. Check Att ..The Note 3 ..Click the "Shop Now" button..when you see the " 900Talk
$59.99per month
Change This Plan Click the Change This Plan link and you'll see it ALLOWS you to select the $35 Data Plan and proceed to checkout..
Today I went to check the Order and I get a" Call Customer Service " .. damn so close
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Seriously dude..your trying to scam them didn't work and now you're gonna tell us how to do it?:banghead::thumbdown:
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Unhived__Mind said:
Seriously dude..your trying to scam them didn't work and now you're gonna tell us how to do it?:banghead::thumbdown:
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LOL.. NO I am not telling "you" how to do it.. I am simply showing everyone what I was talking about.. Did you even try it?
They took my Money .. they Verified and APPROVED the Plan VIA Chat then then 2 days later they stop the order
Again..go to Walmart (com) and see for yourself..

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Seriously dude..your trying to scam them didn't work and now you're gonna tell us how to do it?:banghead::thumbdown:
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When I was talking to the REP on the Phone I tried to get her to Match T Mobiles $30 Plan .. 5 Gig Data and 100 Minutes Talk .. Nope wont do that either. So I'll just wait a month or 2 and buy a T Mo version of the Phone for $450-$500 as they start flooding ebay..and put my $30 a month T Mo sim in
OR Black Friday is just a few weeks away.. probably buy brand new no contract $500 ..

doubt this is going to work, the phone is a phone and not a tablet. it will not work as a tablet, the system see's the imei and will correct it. i work for att and have seen it happen.
im not even sure what plan you are talking about either, the basic tab by itself plan is $30 for 3gb. not sure what you have.

bloodylipp said:
doubt this is going to work, the phone is a phone and not a tablet. it will not work as a tablet, the system see's the imei and will correct it. i work for att and have seen it happen.
im not even sure what plan you are talking about either, the basic tab by itself plan is $30 for 3gb. not sure what you have.
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Look halfway down page ..left side http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
$30 Per Month 100 minutes talk | Unlimited text | First 5 GB at up to 4G speeds
This plan is only available for devices purchased from
Wal-Mart or devices activated on T-Mobile.com
That's for Phone not a Tablet Plan AND they allow you to use ANY Smartphone...

$80 tmobile unlimited plan

I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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dmonger11b said:
I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.

iunlock said:
That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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dmonger11b said:
Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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No, you will be fine.
Like I've said, do a search and you will see that people here are using hundreds of gigs, some even 1tb+. Truly unlimited is truly unlimited.

I do 300+gb a month and never experienced a slow down or anything of that nature.. Blast for it..
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Some of these people who use it as a dedicated internet shouldn't advertise it.
this is not how T-mobile setup their plans.
$80 unlimited is phone only data. The plan included 5GB tethering over t-mobile hotspot app.

I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Agreed. We already went from $70 unlimited to now $80 unlimited.

??? Self-limited or Communty-limited, Unlimited Data ???
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...

bipoler said:
I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?

domhall said:
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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domhall said:
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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"Consciously using and abusing... Followed by... Why don't they get an ISP... Followed by... You must not work???"
Im REALLY sorry NOW... That I said ANYTHING lol... Why didnt I think of those points to make?!?!?

The point of he T-Mobile network isn't about coverage it's about data that's what they advertise is the "data strong " network they have set up their network to handle the amount of data that is being used unlike the other carriers that have capped data

bipoler said:
Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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First of all jack ass I was throwing an arbitrary number out there. I have no idea how much data a MMO pulls. Secondly what's the difference between using a cell phone for my Internet and using Comcast besides I can get similar speed for a much better price using T-Mobile. I am only home for maybe two hours after work and that's enough time to eat mess around on the computer for a bit and crash so **** off with your generalizations. It'd make zero sense for me to spend an extra $100/mo on Comcast just to use maybe 20hrs/wk. If you want to pay my bill then I'll call them tomorrow. If not piss off.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.

Bubbled said:
not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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Well said. The man in the business said it himself and I know a hand full of people in the business and they all have said the same.
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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You're absolutely right. It can go both ways, but at the end of the day truly unlimited is truly unlimited. No matter what the nay sayers may think, their opinion can't over rule the fact that truly unlimited is what it is. Lol...
TM, pushed the whole truly unlimited campaign like mad angry birds head on first. Now that customers are utilizing a service that they signed up for, doesn't give TM any right to try and take that away. Truly Unlimited Data is what customers are paying for.
So for them to even complain now is called: hypocrisy.
It also seems that the ones complaining are perhaps jealous or can't afford the $80 plan or maybe jealous of those who have a grandfathered unlimited plan? Who knows. ..
The fact remains, no matter how you tip the scale, documentation will beat conversation any day.
Truly Unlimited is Truly Unlimited. Pretty black and white to me.
And for goodness sake, what's the difference of streaming 1080p Netflix on your phone vs your 1080p TV? ROFL....

bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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If someone uses 10000gb in a month or 10gb a month the infrastructure cost doesn't change.

I use on average 15-20 GB a month. T-Mobile is flat out the best carrier with the best prices for what they offer. If I'm paying for unlimited data, regardless of whether I use 20 or I use 200 it shouldn't make any difference. T-Mobile makes it a point to advertise that truly unlimited means just that: truly unlimited. They expect people to switch to their network for that very reason. I don't see the person using 300gb a month as an abuser; he/she is taking advantage of a service that is being paid for. They aren't doing it in an unethical way or cheating the system.