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[Q] Where are my Clockwork backup files?

Hi,
Ive always used CWM to make my recoveries. But now, with Nexus 7 (CWM touch 6.0.1.9), Im unable to locate the backup files. There is no BACKUP folder in the clockwork folder and while I did a search using google and found many answers for my question, none of them was right. And I didnt make update from 4.1.2 - I cleaned the whole device and flashed stock 4.2.1 via fastboot, so I dont believe there is some directory tree change mess. And there is no BLOBS folder either.
I just flashed the ROM, rooted it using Toolkit, flashed CWM, made a backup - and boom, nothing there, while it is visible in both CWM recovery and ROM manager. I tried renaming the backup in ROM manager and searching for its new name using File Manager (with root privileges), but I was unsuccessful ...
So, please help me or provide me with a relevant link as I dont like TWRP ...
EDIT: I deleted the /SDCARD/CLOCKWORK folder and flashed TWRP. Now, I returned to CWM, made a backup using CWM and not only I dont see the backup itself, it didnt even recreate the CLOCKWORK folder. I just made a full search in the whole filesystem and there is nothing with "clock" in name (nothing relevant). Where is the backup hidden?????

Tried using it today. Its in some God forsaken rabbit hole. First enable root in es file explorer settings. Then look in system for data, media and eventually clockworkmod. That's the help I can give u.
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r3a1ist said:
Tried using it today. Its in some God forsaken rabbit hole. First enable root in es file explorer settings. Then look in system for data, media and eventually clockworkmod. That's the help I can give u.
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Thanks, but that not the place for me. /data is empty and the only folder found containing "clock" in the file structure is /sstorage/emulated/0/clockwork ... the same as /sdcard/clockwork I was talking about. only three small files and thats it, no BACKUP or BLOBS.
GOT IT!!! I dont know why it wasnt visible with rooted File Manager, but I tried ES and its there ... bam ... THANKS A LOT!
Now, whats the best way to save this stuff to a computer?

its because Jellybean 4.2 uses diff storage paths...
Android 4.2 significantly changes the way how sdcards are handled internally, your data is moved from /sdcard/ into /sdcard/0 on first boot (0 is the 'home directory' of the default user). If you go back to 4.1.2: Don't forget to move the data in 0/ back to the root of your sdcard.
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Ather said:
its because Jellybean 4.2 uses diff storage paths...
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Well, Im aware of that. But that doesnt explain why the files are under /data/media/clockwork. Neither it does explain why it wasnt shown/found by File manager with root privileges - although I guess its the problem of the File manager, as ES File Explorer sees that without any problems ...
Now, I switched CWM to save to TAR and made a backup. It created a folder "/data/media/clockwork/backup/2013-01-08-1214" with 9 files, size about 1,1GB. Is it sufficient for me to copy this file to my computer? Im talking about backing up the backup (heh) ...
Also, is it ok that files cache.ext4.tar, data.ext4.tar and system.ext4.tar are 0mb? Thanks!
EDIT: I tried moving a backup folder to my pc, making factory reset, copying it back to where it was and restoring - everything works fine. Although I dont get why google messed the sw insides so much - my Nexus S seems to be much better in the matter of directory tree - and doesnt wipe all my files when doing stock restore from PC ...

Recovery help needed

I did a wipe with Aroma installer and now my external storage won't show up in TWRP. It shows up if I boot all the way to Android, everything is still intact, but it won't show up in TWRP.
EDIT: I'm only having problems with TWRP, which is especially annoying since that's the one I used to make the backup. CWM seems to work fine.

Hi,
If you haven't got a folder called "0" on your Internal memory, create one and put all flashables and other such files into it.
That "0" folder is a 4.2.2 feature and even though our phone is only on 4.1.2, this version of TWRP was built using CM10.1

KidCarter93 said:
Hi,
If you haven't got a folder called "0" on your Internal memory, create one and put all flashables and other such files into it.
That "0" folder is a 4.2.2 feature and even though our phone is only on 4.1.2, this version of TWRP was built using CM10.1
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I do have that folder, but it's nested within /data/media. Should I move it to root?

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I do have that folder, but it's nested within /data/media. Should I move it to root?
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I'm not sure why it was there, but yeah move it to root and it should be fine.

Now I have a much more serious problem, as you can see here: my new problem

Flashing an 4.2.2 rom and file structure issue.

I decided to start this thread as both assistance for some as well as a collaberation on workarounds when you a person flashes a 4.2.2 rom coming from a 4.1.2.
Just like some (maybe most) I flashed CM 10.1 and played around a bit with it and decided it was just not ready to be run as a daily. Being the flashalohic that I am, I made sure I backed up before flashing CM 10.1 so when I went into recovery and went to restore imagine my surprise when it was blank, yep nothing was there. Why did this happen? Well doing some research and reading/searching I found out that the update from Android 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 changes the file structure of the 'virtual' sdcard on our devices. Actually it changes it for every device. What has changed is that the ability to add user accounts, similar to any regular computer, has been implemented. However, if the proper steps are not taken before you flash a new 4.2.2 Rom, you will end up with a huge mess and run out of room on your device in a hurry.
The actual location when viewed with a root file manager has been here on 4.1.2:
/data/media
And though you will see the same files in /sdcard and /storage/sdcard0, those are just symlinks to the same info, just like a shortcut (on a windows box) or alias (on a mac box). Once you flash a 4.2.2 ROM, the actual location gets changed (and all the files moved) to here:
/data/media/0
And the symlinks get changed to /sdcard/0 and /storage/sdcard0/0. On the surface, no big deal, right? Wrong. The problems arise if the version of your custom recovery is not compatible with a 4.2.2 ROM. If it is not and you keep flashing 4.2.2 ROMs you might soon end up in trouble. If, while using the 'older' custom recovery, you continue flashing, your sdcard ends up somewhere around here:
/data/media/0/0/0/0/0/0 (etc.) with all your files copied to every '0' directory and your symlinks end up the same way, and your device quickly runs out of space (the dreaded "your device is low on storage" message).
This may also make it very difficult to restore your nandroid of a 4.1.2 ROM as well. If you are already in that situation, not to worry, the solution for that is later in this post.
So far I have only been able to to copy all the files found in the last /data/media/0/0/0/0 (?) folder to my computer. Then using a file manager that will show hidden files and folders, copy/move the files in the last '0' directory to:
/data/media/0
And then use file explorer to delete all the other '0' directories until I have just this one:
/data/media/0
leaving nothing else in the symlinks but /sdcard/0 and /storage/sdcard0/0. This techniques is if you end up with a huge file structure.
****BACK UP YOUR SD CARD FIRST!!!!! before deleting any 0 folders!!!****
NOTE: A reboot of your device is essential at this point.
If after flashing a 4.2.2 ROM you decide you don't like it and want to restore your nandroid to your saved 4.1.2 ROM, how does that work out?
1.) Get yourself a (good) root file browser.
2.) Brows to /data/media/0
note: this is where android (and almost everything else that uses a Linux kernel) mounts anything that is considered "external" storage.
3.) Do all of your file fixing from here. It will make changes universally.
4.) select all within /data/media/0 and then paste everything back into /data/media selecting merge and/or overwrite. Once done, just delete the /data/media/0 folder, reboot your phone and Profit.
This is a pain and I agree but at this point is the only way I know how to get around this. If anyone knows other ways please share.
* While writting this I came across this info from user elfaure. I havent tried this yet as I am at work and get crappy signal but please post results if you try and if it works, please thank him! *
elfaure: Ok folks for next guy who decides to upgrade to 4.2 but does NOT want the multi-user environment, give this a try.
1. Download the attached file
2. Remove the .txt extension
3. Copy it to your /data directory
4. Open Android Terminal Emulator (Free Market app if you don't already have it)
5. At the prompt type "cd /data"
6. Type "chmod 644 .layout_version" on the file in /data (/data/.layout_version)
Code:
cd /data
chmod 644 .layout_versionNow when you upgrade to 4.2 you should stay single user and have no /data/media/0 directory when you are done. If anyone tries this please let me know if it works and thank me if it does.
ps-its just a special file in a special location, the presence of which tells Android NOT to upgrade your system to a multi-user environment. If you later decide you want multi-users, delete the file and reflash (from recovery) the stock or custom firmware or ROM or recovery. If your custom ROM or recovery wipes the entire /data partition less /data/media including this file, obviously then this will not help, but with latest versions of ROMs and recoveries that should not happen any more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40911246#post40911246
It also looks as if he may be working on a script to help as well and I will keep track and update as needed.
So far this is what I have come up with and I hope it helps some and I hope others that are smarter than I can correct me if I am wrong on any of the above or other add information on other ways to correct this.

I think this is part of my issue but I don't have any 0 folder under data?
I too flashed the 4.2.2 ROM, and noticed that every everything on my sd card had somehow moved to my internal memory? When I went to reflash the ROM it failed. It I also tried to reflash the ROM I was originally running and it too failed. Luckily I was able to do a nandroid restore so the phone is "usable" but TWRP 2.5 still does not see my my external sd and that seems to be that make reason I can not do anything within in the recovery.
Any suggestions?

The op is telling you exactly how to fix it.

lizardking7112 said:
I think this is part of my issue but I don't have any 0 folder under data?
I too flashed the 4.2.2 ROM, and noticed that every everything on my sd card had somehow moved to my internal memory? When I went to reflash the ROM it failed. It I also tried to reflash the ROM I was originally running and it too failed. Luckily I was able to do a nandroid restore so the phone is "usable" but TWRP 2.5 still does not see my my external sd and that seems to be that make reason I can not do anything within in the recovery.
Any suggestions?
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Let my clarify:
I have used two different file managers and even used to terminal emulator using ls -la to make sure i have no hidden files
sdcard0/data/ there is no media directory
Maybe this isn't my problem, since I don't see any file/dir with a 0, but all this mess started when I loaded up a 4.2.2 ROM?

Everyone should check this out to aid you in your flashing addiction.
Happy flashing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42237249
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I flashing an aosp Rom and nothing in my sd card changed. Maybe I'm lucky?
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Good information

so does this work? will i be able to nad back to sense and all my files are in the right place?

I couldn't get it to work, the attachment. However the new recovery I linked to looks to have promise but I haven't tested it yet cause I'm remote right now and need my phone at the moment. Will give it a go this weekend.
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Seems @imneveral0ne has found a way to assist folks that like to go between 4.2.2 and 4.1.2
Check out his thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42512892
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Weighing in, worked like a charm for the most part. TWRP recreated another TWRP folder inside its original TWRP folder (it has to be left at /data/media/0/TWRP for you to be able to reinstall a nandroid backup) [also forgoing obvious yo dawg joke here], but besides that my phone is back to being right as rain.

Nice write up on this issue. Thanks
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I'm sure it wouldn't work for doing a nandroid restore, but on my Galaxy Nexus I would just make certain I had the latest version of TWRP, boot into recovery, format the SD card, and then push the rom files to /data/media/ and flash. That is my only complaint about this change, really...truly "clean" installations are inherently more risky or difficult, dependent on your knowledge level.

It won't let me delete folder 0 no matter what. Inside that folder is a ViperRom folder that won't delete as well no matter what I do!

Thanks for this info. I think I'm going to take the plunge this weekend so this will be very helpful info.
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I think it moved my ROM data into the 0 folder, how do I get it out? Everything else from the 0 folder is deleted except for ViperROM's folder, and whenever I try to move or delete it, it just fails the operation. I already have a copy out of the 0 folder, but I still want it out, because otherwise I can't flash things, since it just shows the the almost* empty sdcard/0 folder. Help? Should I just put my mods in the 0 folder and deal with it?

Bseagull said:
I think it moved my ROM data into the 0 folder, how do I get it out? Everything else from the 0 folder is deleted except for ViperROM's folder, and whenever I try to move or delete it, it just fails the operation. I already have a copy out of the 0 folder, but I still want it out, because otherwise I can't flash things, since it just shows the the almost* empty sdcard/0 folder. Help? Should I just put my mods in the 0 folder and deal with it?
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No. There is a script out there you can flash that will help. Check out post # 10.
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So can we delete the legacy file now? I haven't done anything with my internal storage since coming from 4.1.2 for the first time. It looks like twrp 2.6.3 copied all my files correctly to the 0 file but all the files are still also in "legacy" folder. Is it duplicate that I can delete from legacy or are they just symlinked? I am never going back now that we have official 4.3 release.

ivwonka said:
So can we delete the legacy file now? I haven't done anything with my internal storage since coming from 4.1.2 for the first time. It looks like twrp 2.6.3 copied all my files correctly to the 0 file but all the files are still also in "legacy" folder. Is it duplicate that I can delete from legacy or are they just symlinked? I am never going back now that we have official 4.3 release.
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I am not certain to be honest. It looks like the file structure didn’t change with the release of 4.3 so it’s possible that they are symlinked. If all your files are moved to the /0/ folder and you have nothing in the legacy folder it would make sense that you would be able to but I have yet to test this.
I suppose this weekend I could back up the phone and file tree and give it a shot

Thanks for the response. I haven't tested out yet either but will post back if I do.

[Q] Newly installed ROM /sdcard/0 folder problem. Emulated storage

Ok so, this is a bit hard to explain, I can only take SS's of some of the problem. So a while ago I installed android revolution hd 10. I've since upgraded to 12.x. I noticed sometime inbetween then. That when I go to clock work recovery I am always greeted with the contents of my sd card before I installed the ROM, I have to click on a folder called '0' which is in my sdcard folder. so /sdcard (this is where all my old data is)/0 (then '0' is where all my new stuff since I installed revolution is. To access the location where all of my stuff saves.
So this is the highest level I can get to on my computer and with root browser/es file explorer on my phone: http://gyazo.com/7a3831c0d9934732b8dc5b2e700e422d
But, when I go into recovery I am greeted with this:
http://gyazo.com/13baa0cb30a21c0fb83db3a35965ced3
see how at the top there it says /sdcard That is full of all my old files. and here when I click on /sdcard/0 : http://gyazo.com/8d39545d7561de02452ef3964e4df6fc
You can see at the bottom of these two, a little window into the past. Because my phone has been using this /0 folder as root I guess? So what is going on, it's using about 8gb or so, maybe more idk, has all my pictures and stuff. And I can only get to it in clock work recovery. Which I don't understand.
Hope you can make sense of this. I'm Australian which is why I'm posting now. time zone is incredibly annoying I hardly get replies. Thanks though

I have the same question, hopefully bumping this will get a good response. I can't even transfer my cwm backups because I have no idea how to access them outside of cwm recovery.

lopuandroid said:
Ok so, this is a bit hard to explain, I can only take SS's of some of the problem. So a while ago I installed android revolution hd 10. I've since upgraded to 12.x. I noticed sometime inbetween then. That when I go to clock work recovery I am always greeted with the contents of my sd card before I installed the ROM, I have to click on a folder called '0' which is in my sdcard folder. so /sdcard (this is where all my old data is)/0 (then '0' is where all my new stuff since I installed revolution is. To access the location where all of my stuff saves.
So this is the highest level I can get to on my computer and with root browser/es file explorer on my phone: http://gyazo.com/7a3831c0d9934732b8dc5b2e700e422d
But, when I go into recovery I am greeted with this:
http://gyazo.com/13baa0cb30a21c0fb83db3a35965ced3
see how at the top there it says /sdcard That is full of all my old files. and here when I click on /sdcard/0 : http://gyazo.com/8d39545d7561de02452ef3964e4df6fc
You can see at the bottom of these two, a little window into the past. Because my phone has been using this /0 folder as root I guess? So what is going on, it's using about 8gb or so, maybe more idk, has all my pictures and stuff. And I can only get to it in clock work recovery. Which I don't understand.
Hope you can make sense of this. I'm Australian which is why I'm posting now. time zone is incredibly annoying I hardly get replies. Thanks though
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Daman09 said:
I have the same question, hopefully bumping this will get a good response. I can't even transfer my cwm backups because I have no idea how to access them outside of cwm recovery.
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OK, guys a bit of searching would have helped, but here's the short version:
In Android 4.1.2 /data/media = internal storage (or sdcard; whatever you feel like calling it)
as of 4.2.2+, (for multiuser support) it was changed to /data/media/0
so 4.1.2 /sdcard was a symlink to /data/media
in 4.2.2+ /sdcard is a symlink to /data/media/0
Everything (except 0 and legacy which is empty) in /data/media should be moved to /data/media/0
CWM still links to /data/media which you can no longer see on your PC, since it only shows /data/media/0
if you do want it to show, then use this guide to create a symlink: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991657
That's it in a nutshell, if you want more details, search for differences of the file structures of 4.1.2 and 4.2.2+

nkk71 said:
OK, guys a bit of searching would have helped, but here's the short version:
In Android 4.1.2 /data/media = internal storage (or sdcard; whatever you feel like calling it)
as of 4.2.2+, (for multiuser support) it was changed to /data/media/0
so 4.1.2 /sdcard was a symlink to /data/media
in 4.2.2+ /sdcard is a symlink to /data/media/0
Everything (except 0 and legacy which is empty) in /data/media should be moved to /data/media/0
CWM still links to /data/media which you can no longer see on your PC, since it only shows /data/media/0
if you do want it to show, then use this guide to create a symlink: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991657
That's it in a nutshell, if you want more details, search for differences of the file structures of 4.1.2 and 4.2.2+
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Thanks for this. Oddly, my searching came with this thread.
Now I guess the question is, why hasn't CWM updated to place the backups in easily accessible locations one devices like the One?

Daman09 said:
Thanks for this. Oddly, my searching came with this thread.
Now I guess the question is, why hasn't CWM updated to place the backups in easily accessible locations?
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You're gonna have to ask the developers about that, just create a symlink as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991657
and it works perfectly, it's what I've done to be able to access the CWM folder from my PC.
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twrp not seeing backups / vice versa on file explorer

Just got my HTC1. rooted and flashed twrp 2601. back upped the stock rom. flashed venom and after getting it where I'd like, made a backup of that. now when i go to es explorer i can see my stock backup in the twrp folder but not the venom backup. when I go to twrp recovery, I can only see the venom backup but not the stock backup.
Any ideas on what the issue is?

There will be a backup folder in data/media and data/media/0, the folder in data/media needs to be merged with the other one.
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thanks cory. wierd how the directory switched like that. that's a first. is there an option to change the directory back to sdcard/twrp? couldn't find anything

killerb777 said:
thanks cory. wierd how the directory switched like that. that's a first. is there an option to change the directory back to sdcard/twrp? couldn't find anything
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That's due to the change in file structure between 4.1 and 4.2+
Don't know about TWRP, but for CWM recovery you can create a symlink, here's how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991657
Though it seems the newer version of the recoveries have already been corrected.

killerb777 said:
thanks cory. wierd how the directory switched like that. that's a first. is there an option to change the directory back to sdcard/twrp? couldn't find anything
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Yah, it's because 4.2 added multi-user support.
So user data would be,
Data/media/0
Data/media/1
And so on...
I'm not sure about the option in twrp, I just formatted my SD and started fresh.
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