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Anyone port the ICS leak's radios and kernel yet?

I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo

The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
As it stands, the OTA will look for GB 219 when upgrading so those early adopters won't be able to get future upgrades. Unless devs find a way to downgrade or trick the update that is.
Everything I've said could be wrong however this is how I have come to understand it.
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Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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azrael293 said:
Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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No, this results in a brick. Fastboot refuses to flash older partitions over new ones.
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flamefangahs said:
The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
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This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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highlandsun said:
This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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Actually, upgrading to ICS leak is probably the way to go. We can now upgrade from leak 200 to 206, giving us the ability to stay on the upgrade path. Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
Here are the instructions for upgrading from leak 200 to 206:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-roms/209619-get-unstuck-ics-leak-200-aka-upgrading-200-206-instructions.html
Also, I believe Hashcode is working on bringing Safestrap 2.0 to the new ICS leak based on the new kernel, and will be working on getting our ROMs on the new kernel as well.

rumgool said:
Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA. I am really surprised how little interest people have in this phone. I guess I am one of the few that still loves physical keyboards. Only drawback on this phone is the non-removable battery. Otherwise it is rock solid. Had the original Tilt, then TP and TP2. Had the G2 on T-mobile, but reception on that phone was not good and T-mobile Network in the US sucks.

GermanGuy said:
droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA.
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This is true, I was just mentioning since most of the recent information regarding the ICS leak has been on droidforums so checking it out would fill everyone in on whats going on. Because basically development for the GB kernel is probably going to come to a halt and future development will be based on the new ICS kernel, including the existing AOSP ROMs.

wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?

dewhashish said:
wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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No, but 206 was supposed to require 219 as 200 did and the official one will and people have found ways around it.
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I have Hashcode's stuff running on my kindle fire. We will all be in for a treat once he starts focusing on D4. He's done really really good work on the kindle.

dewhashish said:
I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo
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They won't be able to do so. What they will be able to do is make their builds work off/with the new kernel/radios flashed by the leak.
So Hashcode will have two builds.
1) - works on phones running the current stock GB kernel.
2) - works on phones running the leaked ICS kernel.
There is still a locked bootloader so you can't flash unsigned kernels/boot.img. For the leaked "system" files to help you need the ICS kernel. The only way to get the ICS kernel is to flash the leak.
So the leaks are great news for people wanting an AOKP or CM9 build running fully functional....on their leak installed phones. Not much help for those who do not want to flash the leak.

I'll definitely flash the leak once root has been released for 4.0.4 (in case OTA rootkeeper doesn't work) and hashcode releases safestrap 2.0 for the leak.

I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
So far it's working great, face unlock and the camera is working perfectly and GSM/WDCMA performance is awesome, I don't seem to have the problem of under-reported GSM signal like in the stock MotoBlur leak.
(Note that I'm in Canada and using Bell Mobility, not in the US on Verizon so I can't say if LTE is functioning properly).
I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
Won't be long before Hashcode puts up an official release, but I definitely recommend trying it out if you're up for it. If Hashcode doesn't mind, I could share a .zip of the build I made if anyone out there is interested.
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Rick#2 said:
I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
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Do you think you create a guide or go into more detail how you did this? I'm not quite sure what their git is.
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Rick#2 said:
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I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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Hashcode said:
This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?

podspi said:
If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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Right now, I'm treating the front buttons like they are a special portion of the touch screen (basically any touch past 960 pixels down is considered the "button row", and then I divided the width up into 4 spots for button presses: menu, home, back and search respectively. (This is in the recovery itself as well as the splashscreen which triggers off of menu)
If that fails, Ill just use hard keys for D4's Safestrap temporarily.
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..or maybe the volume buttons (I bet it requires less modification than implementing support for the digitizer)

I just put up an updated Droid4 2.00 Safestrap for use w/ the new MotoICS leaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688610
BE SURE TO MAKE AN INITIAL BACKUP OF NON-SAFE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING.
You will use the "System" backup to restore back to stock .206 to update later.
I have the D4 CM9 / AOKP builds for the MotoICS leaks almost ready and I'll post those soon.

Jellybean Uninstall

i want to go back to ics. the jelly bean downsides are becoming a pain right now. what exactly would happen if i just reflashed with ics stock? will it brick and will it be recoverable? can anyone explain in depth the issue regarding this? or will i have to put my phone up for sale and obtain a replacement that still has ics?
the jb performance has been cool but i had everything working perfectly on ics. and the jb update is just significantly less than perfect for my setup and app needs. serves me right for rushing for the latest update i guess. but ive got to go back to ics. jb reminds me of windows millenium edition.
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Sorry you aren't enjoying the upgrade. I'll throw out the obligatory suggestion of performing a factory reset on your phone if you haven't already done so since the upgrade. This will allow your phone to clear out old ics data and use pure jb. However, for some people, updates truly do kill their experience and that's a personal thing.
With official updates from Motorola, our devices also receive a new kernel in addition to a new version of android. JB uses a newer kernel than ICS, just as ICS used a newer one than Gingerbread. Unfortunately, because our devices have locked bootloaders, you cannot go back to the ICS kernel, meaning you can not downgrade. Trying to fastboot back will result in a brick, most likely permanent.
At this point, you would need to get a replacement still running ICS if you truly want to downgrade. Alternately, considering using custom roms, which at this point are all JB based, but far superior to the Motorola "Blur" version found on stock phones.
Sorry!
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thanks. looks like this d4 is going up for sale. i did the factory resets when i did the update. but some apps i really like dont work on on jb. id designated them lifelong companion apps. so jb being unable to run them means jb has got to go. my d4 completely suited my needs untilt this update. now it's incomplete. and without moto allowing the bootloader to be unlocked means athe d4 was just destroyed by this update imho.
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Have you thought of emailing the app developers and asking them to update them to support JB?
Any and every new phone coming will be based on JB so that limits you to buying older, unsupported devices which will make newer apps as they come out unavailable to you.

thanks but i dont NEED anything else. this thing is totally unreliable. its not storing profiles and settings in some apps so i have to readd login details etc every time i launch the program, others forceclose to homescreen after launching without an error.
i thought about the email option.. but thereve been so many ppl clamouring about them since last summer im not putting any hope on that. i think they really screwed up with jb and took a few steps backwards. unfortunate but this d4 has got to go. cant sell it fast enough right now.
im really happy with the d4. dont see any need to upgrade for the next 10 yrs. great phone/multifunction device. ill buy 3 and keep em on ics with backup parts etc for repairs.
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The Magician Type 0 said:
Sorry you aren't enjoying the upgrade. I'll throw out the obligatory suggestion of performing a factory reset on your phone if you haven't already done so since the upgrade. This will allow your phone to clear out old ics data and use pure jb. However, for some people, updates truly do kill their experience and that's a personal thing.
With official updates from Motorola, our devices also receive a new kernel in addition to a new version of android. JB uses a newer kernel than ICS, just as ICS used a newer one than Gingerbread. Unfortunately, because our devices have locked bootloaders, you cannot go back to the ICS kernel, meaning you can not downgrade. Trying to fastboot back will result in a brick, most likely permanent.
At this point, you would need to get a replacement still running ICS if you truly want to downgrade. Alternately, considering using custom roms, which at this point are all JB based, but far superior to the Motorola "Blur" version found on stock phones.
Sorry!
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Or maybe flash one of the ICS kexec ROMs? Not sure if it would work butttt possible. I may just try it myself so I can play order and chaos again.
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Have you factory reset your device (Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset) since taking the update to JB?
Apps should be retaining their configurations (logins, etc..) and the phone should be smoother/faster than when it was on JB.
More than likely since the update patched the ICS system files to bring them to JB versions...something is causing issues from the updating. I'd definitely try a factory reset and reconfigure your phone. It may just be needing a proper reset/setup...
Imagine a Windows PC running Windows XP being "upgraded" to Windows 7 vs. another identical PC with a fresh install of Windows 7. The fresh install W7 will run much better compared to the patched/updated XP-W7.
If you haven't factory reset your device in a while....it's gone from GB, patched to ICS then patched to JB....or Windows 95 patched to XP then patched to W7.

yeah i factory reset twice during initial upgrade and setup all from scratch. at first a couple programs cudnt run and found out they dont work with jb and everyones hoping for an upgrade that seems abandoned by the developer. that was.. bearable slightly if i could find alternatives. but im yet to find satisfactory alternatives to any of them. my guitar chord and scales program wont run anymore. its installed but wont show in the app drawer so i cant launch or uninstall it. lbe privacy throws the fone into a bootloop. motoprint was removed in jb and i loved it. i found an alternative called send2print.. it works is all ill say about that. but overall its just a pain in the rear now. i liked how i never had to worry about anything before. everything just worked. so thanks for the input guys but this phone is going. already put it up for sale.
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Hi on my work to unbrick the droid i have flash the ics via droid ics utility but it dosend start i think it ist the kernel becouse if you are on JB you don't get ics roms to work but with the kexec kernel it's working so I think if we get the ics kernel working we get ics back
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Where are the devs?

Next time I buy a phone I'll check for development first. This phone has suck poor development. Even my wife Motorola xt925 has 4.4.4 and I'm stock on jelly bean.

Great piss off the few we have. LoL

if you want the 4.4.4 you can learn how to compile from source yourself. i tried with my nexus 4 but had a hard time and gave up trying to develop a rom. the problem we have here seems that there arent any source for our phone. be patient... Playfulgod is working on getting us cm11.
btw. stock rooted is fine with xposed frameworks. for me custom roms have their own problems. stock is actually better imo

You can always learn to do it yourself. Or since all you want is to have the latest and newest then you need to go to the play store and down load "go launcher" they always add the new android versions with themes so you can be cool and have the newest look. Or hey I hear that APPLE is about to release the iPhone 6. Maybe go that route.
And by the way your wife's xt925 isn't running an OTA of 4.4.4. Shes running cm or some other built ROM. But its not official 4.4.4 so go NV the RAZR forums.

What a stupid thread
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OP @rbreban
Learn to make one by yourself and share it to others, if you are so keen to have ROMs
You are cautioned for your aggressive attitude.
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[Q] To Root or not to Root?

Hi All,
My Moto X (1st Gen) is about 4 months old. I'm contemplating on rooting the phone. Is it worth the effort or should I patiently wait for the Lollipop update to come in (whenever that is!). I used a lot of custom roms in my old Nexus 4, so missing the excitement of a new rom. just a bit indecisive at the moment. Would love your opinions on this.

arjun2058 said:
Hi All,
My Moto X (1st Gen) is about 4 months old. I'm contemplating on rooting the phone. Is it worth the effort or should I patiently wait for the Lollipop update to come in (whenever that is!). I used a lot of custom roms in my old Nexus 4, so missing the excitement of a new rom. just a bit indecisive at the moment. Would love your opinions on this.
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I am using the Moto X for nealry 9 months now. Never thought of rooting it as I didnt find any bloat here like the Touchwiz

I am honestly very tempted by the ROMs out there. And I don't know why but I'm definitely noticing some performance lag. Tried everything but not seeing a lot of improvement.
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Before you go contemplating this question, figure out if you'll be able to root your phone in the first place.
Then instead of asking this question, ask whether or not you should unlock the bootloader. It's the only way to maintain root since 4.4.4 patched the vulnerabilities used to attain root.

There are reasons why I would root like Tasker(full functionality),a custom kernel or UI changes

I rooted my X so I can play with gravity box and other stuff. Unrooting and relocking the bootloader isn't hard to do and that's what I'll do once Lollipop comes out for my phone. (Already factory reset my phone once from custom Rom).

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I rooted my X so I can play with gravity box and other stuff. Unrooting and relocking the bootloader isn't hard to do and that's what I'll do once Lollipop comes out for my phone. (Already factory reset my phone once from custom Rom).
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You are going to re lock your bootloader to take Lollipop?

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You are going to re lock your bootloader to take Lollipop?
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I meant to say return to stock recovery. I read somewhere that you can't get OTA with a custom recovery, Rom and rooted.

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I meant to say return to stock recovery. I read somewhere that you can't get OTA with a custom recovery, Rom and rooted.
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Gotcha, that is true. Stock recovery and stock system and you are good to go.

I personally root all my devices for better control. However, I personally don't use Roms because I want a stock experience and that includes boot animation and themes. The only Roms I have ever kept on my phones were ARHD and Paranoid Android. If neither are available, I go with Xposed.

[Q] Is there any hope for custom recovery?

I was wondering if there was any hope for a custom recovery with the Droid Turbo. Back when I had a Droid Razr I remember having a safestrap TWRP based recovery and being able to flash all the big name ROMs that were ported like CM, PAC, AOKP etc. So will we ever be able to see this for the Turbo or is the rooted stock image the best we'll get?

Right now, the answer is no, there is no known vector for this. In the future, who knows.

Probably the same chance of winning the lottery. There's always a chance but probably not gonna happen.

That will probably never come around, I don't think this phone will see an unlock or an exploit for the bootloader at all
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