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I've been searching the threads, and didn't find one for an answer to my question, so I've decided to try here. I have the dev edition, S-OFF, unlocked, rooted, with stock recovery and stock 1.29.1540.17 rom. My question is, when the OTA's roll out, will my phone receive it, and be able to update it? If not, what do I need to do for this to happen? In other words, what are the requirements to successfully receive and update via OTA? I've updated a few times and gone back to stock (which, for me is 1.29.1540.16), and every time, with s-off, unlock and root, the OTA update always came to update to .17, so I'm inclined to think that I would receive any others as well. I guess I just would maybe like my assumptions seconded to ease my mind, lol? In any case, any help would be appreciated.
-Mike
kibmikey1 said:
I've been searching the threads, and didn't find one for an answer to my question, so I've decided to try here. I have the dev edition, S-OFF, unlocked, rooted, with stock recovery and stock 1.29.1540.17 rom. My question is, when the OTA's roll out, will my phone receive it, and be able to update it? If not, what do I need to do for this to happen? In other words, what are the requirements to successfully receive and update via OTA? I've updated a few times and gone back to stock (which, for me is 1.29.1540.16), and every time, with s-off, unlock and root, the OTA update always came to update to .17, so I'm inclined to think that I would receive any others as well. I guess I just would maybe like my assumptions seconded to ease my mind, lol? In any case, any help would be appreciated.
-Mike
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Not exactly sure, but I thought you also needed to have the bootloader locked (or relocked) and no root (has to be odexed stock rom, so root wouldnt be included).
But, as I said, I'm not 100% sure.
Hope someone can add more info, as I am also interested.
Just gonna add my input here.
I'm more than 90% sure that if you have S-Off, you can flash the OTA using rebootRUU (downloading the OTA, connecting your phone to the computer, extracting the firmware.zip and flashing using fastboot oem rebootRUU, then fastboot flash zip firmware.zip) provided you're running some version of the previous firmware with a locked bootloader.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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xeyesofthousandx said:
Just gonna add my input here.
I'm more than 90% sure that if you have S-Off, you can flash the OTA using rebootRUU (downloading the OTA, connecting your phone to the computer, extracting the firmware.zip and flashing using fastboot oem rebootRUU, then fastboot flash zip firmware.zip) provided you're running some version of the previous firmware with a locked bootloader.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Two things:
1- how do you get the OTA if you're not 100% stock? It wont download unless your phone is "recognized" to be stock and locked/relocked
2- if it is an official OTA, then the firmware would be signed anyway, so you dont need s-off. if you are s-off then you can flash ANY firmware from any MID & CID found on the various threads here (that's how I was able to update). Otherwise you CID and MID have to match a signed firmware
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Two things:
1- how do you get the OTA if you're not 100% stock? It wont download unless your phone is "recognized" to be stock and locked/relocked
2- if it is an official OTA, then the firmware would be signed anyway, so you dont need s-off. if you are s-off then you can flash ANY firmware from any MID & CID found on the various threads here (that's how I was able to update). Otherwise you CID and MID have to match a signed firmware
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The dev edition comes factory shipped bootloader unlocked. So, really the only changes I made to the phone are s-off and root. Could that be why I received my OTA? Perhaps my specific update takes that into account?
kibmikey1 said:
The dev edition comes factory shipped bootloader unlocked. So, really the only changes I made to the phone are s-off and root. Could that be why I received my OTA? Perhaps my specific update takes that into account?
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OTAs will be fine, you might lose root, but putting it back is easy enough, same procedure as before.
I think you can keep S-off and unlocked bootloader. You need stock recovery though.
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OTAs will be fine, you might lose root, but putting it back is easy enough, same procedure as before.
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This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I also have stock recovery as well. Thanks for the reassurance!
I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767
generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767
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I have been all over the forums looking at this and came up with squat.
If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
I was running an earlier version of twrp and thought that might be the issue but after updating twrp I am still at the same place. The sprint update notifications are still coming.
If I find something I will post it here.
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?
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you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum
jziggy101 said:
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there.
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You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
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You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
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If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
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Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
Aldo101t said:
you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum
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Thanks for the replies. It's very confusing whether people are referencing the OTA update, or the tweaked, rooted downloadable update (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767). This forum should be friendly to questions when things are confusing.
Even with the two replies on this thread, it's still not clear to me if the downloadable (NOT OTA) updates can be flashed with a custom recovery, or what the procedure is for an S-On device regarding firmware and ROM updates. Sorry to offend anyone if they feel this has been answered somewhere in the forums, but it's still unclear to some of us.
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@PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?
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Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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If your not stock ota will mess you up big time. I just rooted my HTC one on sprint with the update that was on a swap out for bad speakers . Twrp isn't responsive if you use the one in toolkit. I downloaded 2.6.3 loaded it in the data folder of toolkit installed through the toolkit and bam... I got response out of Twrp. I'll find the link and post for you guys.
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generosity21 said:
@PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?
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Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7wls
This is the link for people who are stock and unlocking their phone. If you're using the toolkit put it in the data folder and rename to twrp. Be careful though the other files are the same name but in capital letters! Flash it and u will have responsive twrp and rooted 4.3 ota
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Anyone having poor reception?
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PillowMetal said:
Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
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Tried this once more, and successfully got S-off without downgrading anything, as a few others have reported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
Brand new device Stock 1.29 Rom Uninstalled SuperSU Unrooted for Updates
PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone
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Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone
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Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
Twerp to Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Darn, no I did not flash the stock recovery. Also I read another thread said I needed to unroot!lol So I was back tracing my steps to unroot, so I thought.. I did save the original backup before installing Twerp 2.6.3 and rooting so its in there if I can get to it. I really dont know how to proceed from here. There are no options in the bootloader to proceed.
Twerp vs Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Do I need to figure out how to flash or return to stock recovery from Twerp or can I simploy flash the 1.29 ruu back in to the device for a return to stock?
Twerp 2.6.3
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Kraizk said:
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks
upowersystems said:
Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks
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Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.
Current State
PillowMetal said:
Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.
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Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.
upowersystems said:
Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.
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If you don't want to go the RUU route, then the condition your phone is currently in would only require you to flash stock recovery from 1.29.651.10 (which I got from the actual OTA file). The problem is that your bootloader is now locked and your are S-ON, so you will not be able to flash stock recovery unless you unlock again. If you still have the unlock.bin file from htcdev, that will still work if was done on your current hboot version, otherwise, you would have to visit the site again. Then flash stock recovery, and relock bootloader again. Then the 1.31 update will succeed followed by the 3.04 update.
As far as S-OFF, if you ever want it, you should get it now before updating to anything - even 1.31 (as long as the date on your hboot is May 2013 or earlier). Because, you WILL get the new hboots when you update to 1.31 and 3.04 and since you are S-ON, you will be stuck with it. There is no guarantee that you will ever be able to get S-OFF again with the new hboots. People on hboot 1.54 have been waiting and clamoring for months and there has been no progress and other phones have never even been able to get S-OFF.
Using revone to S-OFF will not wipe your phone or remove anything, it does not require root, and it you do not need to be unlocked. I have performed it from the computer 3 times on Sprint phones and even have made a post about how to make it succeed. There is also a video showing how it can be done on the phone too via terminal emulator, but that method requires root.
Having S-OFF just makes life so much easier, but with it carries great responsibility because security has been turned off and you need to know what you are flashing or you can run into trouble. But as long as you can get to the bootloader, you can recover.
PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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On the att variant you don't need to relock the boot loader to ota.
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I have an AT&T HTC One that I converted to a rooted Dev Edition 4.3 and I've been using CWM touch. I'm S-Off and recently switched back to AT&T CID since I read that that was a better setting than SuperCID. I'm now being offered OTA download of the KitKat/Sense 5.5 update, but I'm not sure whether I should accept the download? Will it work? If not, what would happen?
Thanks for insights.
Craig
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I have an AT&T HTC One that I converted to a rooted Dev Edition 4.3 and I've been using CWM touch. I'm S-Off and recently switched back to AT&T CID since I read that that was a better setting than SuperCID. I'm now being offered OTA download of the KitKat/Sense 5.5 update, but I'm not sure whether I should accept the download? Will it work? If not, what would happen?
Thanks for insights.
Craig
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Nope. I wouldn't touch it if I were you. Unless you're using the stock recovery (and ideally not rooted), don't accept an OTA update. If you for some reason want to keep your custom recovery, you could try manually downloading it and sticking it in your phone memory to install from.
Download link from HTC: http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_M7_UL_K44....1540.1_R4_release_342621pwc1arsthngg08zv.zip
If you want to take it via OTA, you must first flash the stock recovery to the phone. You can leave it rooted if you want, but you may lose root after the update anyway. Can't say for certain since I'm running stock (aside from being unlocked and S-Off). Also, change your CID to BS_US001. There's no advantage to using the wrong CID.
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Nope. I wouldn't touch it if I were you. Unless you're using the stock recovery (and ideally not rooted), don't accept an OTA update. If you for some reason want to keep your custom recovery, you could try manually downloading it and sticking it in your phone memory to install from.
Download link from HTC: http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_M7_UL_K44....1540.1_R4_release_342621pwc1arsthngg08zv.zip
If you want to take it via OTA, you must first flash the stock recovery to the phone. You can leave it rooted if you want, but you may lose root after the update anyway. Can't say for certain since I'm running stock (aside from being unlocked and S-Off). Also, change your CID to BS_US001. There's no advantage to using the wrong CID.
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Thanks. That was kind of what I was guessing. Is it possible to remove root temporarily? Given that I'm S-off, I'm not too worried about being able to get it back. I'm trying to avoid a full wipe if possible.
To completely remove root I think you have to flash a stock RUU, which will wipe your phone. If you get back to stock recovery, flash the OTA update through recovery, you should be ok. But you may need to root again.
I honestly can't believe I am asking such a rudimentary question with how long I've been here, but it's always been "htcdev root then s-off exploit" before.
Now though, I have the option of just simply installing Weaksauce to get a temproot... then running that Firewater adb script with that temproot to get S-OFF, essentially getting S-OFF without needing a (permanent) root first.
To be honest, the only reason I even want root right now is to install that app/patcher that removes the SD card restrictions KitKat added. Again, before since I had to use htcdev first I would root, then install a rooted rom, then get S-OFF, so I already had a permrooted rom before I gained S-OFF. If I already have S-OFF(that means I have full access to the entire flashrom right?), would I still not have root access because the rom itself doesn't give me that access? And if so, can I just modify a permissions file or something similar, or would I need to flash a rooted version of the stock rom? I know those exist, but since I just got this phone I don't want to heavily modify it's software just yet. I know it will still have bloatware, and as much as I hate it, almost all of it is uninstallable on the stock Sprint M8 rom (wish I coudl get rid of Sprint Zone and Sprint ID though).
Well, that, and the other reason is because this phone basically came out less than a month ago, and already had a firmware update from Sprint, it is sure to get more updates down the road. Would rooting and getting S-OFF prevent me from installing official updates? (I don't want to have to wait for a modified version to become available, and if I was going to go down that route, I might as well just use a custom rom). Or could an official update lock me back to S-ON and require me to run the exploit again (providing they didn't also patch said exploit in the update)?
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
And of course you can still take OTA updates while S-OFF (as long as your system is completely stock and you have the stock recovery).
Captain_Throwback said:
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
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Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
Cyber Akuma said:
Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
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No, HTC Dev won't interfere with you gaining S-off.
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
Cyber Akuma said:
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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FinZ28 said:
What "thing" are you referring to?
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Last line in my original post:
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
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Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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FinZ28 said:
Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
03orlandor6 said:
Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
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Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
Cyber Akuma said:
Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
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Yes, use HTC Dev to unlock, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU for root access. You can then use Firewater to gain S-off. You can stay on the stock ROM, just be warned that you'll get update notifications if you aren't on the latest OTA update. Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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FinZ28 said:
Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
Cyber Akuma said:
It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
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It's that easy, yes, and no, you can't lose S-off by applying an OTA update. Take a look at the thread in the link below for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720558
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Just got a new m9 been away from htc and rooting for a long time. just upgraded from my trusty galaxy s3. Is there any thing i should be aware of before unlocking boot loader and rooting. the phone is bone stock on 5.0.2 Should i let it update before unlocking boot loader and rooting. To my understanding i should unlock boot loader install twrp and don't mount the system before making a back up. Then install supersu and root or use sunshine to get root and do both.
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Just got a new m9 been away from htc and rooting for a long time. just upgraded from my trusty galaxy s3. Is there any thing i should be aware of before unlocking boot loader and rooting. the phone is bone stock on 5.0.2 Should i let it update before unlocking boot loader and rooting. To my understanding i should unlock boot loader install twrp and don't mount the system before making a back up. Then install supersu and root or use sunshine to get root and do both.
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Welcome back to HTC
It really depends on what you plan to do with your M9.
If you plan on using custom roms then yes unlock and install TWRP. Root is not required to flash roms.
Sunshine does not root or unlock but removes secure write (S-Off) which allows you to install different firmware's etc.
With S-on you can only move forward with firmware's. Lots of people complain about the 25.00, But its well worth it.
If you are not concerned about the cost, then unlock, twrp, flash superSu, and install sunshine and S-off then your free to do anything.
backup if you like but there is a thread with stock backups etc...
hope this helps
My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
tw39515 said:
My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
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Yes you can still unlock and root and S-off on the current OS 5.1 - 2.11.531.19, but I would do it before MM comes out for this device.
will do viperone had issues on initial firmware so i flashed the latest ruu, sunshine is next. thanks for the advice.
Hi everyone,
I need some help if you may please. I bought an HTC One M9 phone and for a while it's been telling me to update to the newest android version. However, this was impossible because even when I downloaded de update from TMobile, when restarting, TWRP would kick in and wouldn't let me go through the whole setup. So, I got to some tutorials and I found some guidance but it's all so confusing and I've gotten to a point where I have no idea what to do next.
Phone is from:
-TMobile
What I did:
-Got rid of TWRP
-Got it back to unroot
Phone status as of now:
It works fine, but it's still not updated.
When going into the HTC Download mode screen, i get the following info:
-UNLOCKED
-htc_himaul PVT S-ON
-OS-1.32.531.24
-Warning: Security checking failed NOT_FIND_SMARTIO
FILE /mnt/media_rw/ext_sd/0PJAIMG.zip
File NOT FOUND
ADB is not reading my device when in download mode, I was trying to install stock recovery by following a tutorian in android soul: how to install stock recovery on htc one m9 (sorry but the forum won't let me post the link.
What do I need to do? There are so many tutorials out ther with so many different instructions that I'm totally confused now as to what to install or not to install . I'd like to install the Developer version but if I have to deal with the Tmobile one, that's ok.
Thanks in advance
Umang jain
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umangilu said:
Hi everyone,
I need some help if you may please. I bought an HTC One M9 phone and for a while it's been telling me to update to the newest android version. However, this was impossible because even when I downloaded de update from TMobile, when restarting, TWRP would kick in and wouldn't let me go through the whole setup. So, I got to some tutorials and I found some guidance but it's all so confusing and I've gotten to a point where I have no idea what to do next.
Phone is from:
-TMobile
What I did:
-Got rid of TWRP
-Got it back to unroot
Phone status as of now:
It works fine, but it's still not updated.
When going into the HTC Download mode screen, i get the following info:
-UNLOCKED
-htc_himaul PVT S-ON
-OS-1.32.531.24
-Warning: Security checking failed NOT_FIND_SMARTIO
FILE /mnt/media_rw/ext_sd/0PJAIMG.zip
File NOT FOUND
ADB is not reading my device when in download mode, I was trying to install stock recovery by following a tutorian in android soul: how to install stock recovery on htc one m9 (sorry but the forum won't let me post the link.
What do I need to do? There are so many tutorials out ther with so many different instructions that I'm totally confused now as to what to install or not to install . I'd like to install the Developer version but if I have to deal with the Tmobile one, that's ok.
Thanks in advance
Umang jain
[email protected]
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You say you got rid of twrp and tried to flash the stock recovery but adb is not working, so what recovery is currently on the phone?
I think the simplest solution would be to run the latest RUU from your sd card since you have adb issues (most likely a driver).
This will bring you to current stock 2.11.531.19. This will wipe the device and you must use a 4-32GB sd card.
Place it on the root of the sd card and boot into download mode, vol up to update and let it run.
you can get the RUU here
tw39515 said:
My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
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kc6wke said:
Yes you can still unlock and root and S-off on the current OS 5.1 - 2.11.531.19, but I would do it before MM comes out for this device.
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Wait. I just picked up an M9 myself, and my current plan is to wait until the official T-Mobile Marshmallow OTA is released before I unlock bootloader and S-OFF. My logic being that I could create then create a backup point in TWRP if I can't find a custom ROM that suitably handles T-Mobile specific features (WiFi calling, etc.) and just restore to the stock T-Mobile image.
Are you saying that updating OTA to Marshmallow could limit my ability to use Sunshine for S-OFF?
I suppose I could just S-OFF now and then RUU back to Stock T-Mobile Marshmallow once released?
edit: I'm already on Lollipop 5.1 on my M9. Am I already ****-out-of-luck for Sunshine?
Miguel_Lancaster said:
Wait. I just picked up an M9 myself, and my current plan is to wait until the official T-Mobile Marshmallow OTA is released before I unlock bootloader and S-OFF. My logic being that I could create then create a backup point in TWRP if I can't find a custom ROM that suitably handles T-Mobile specific features (WiFi calling, etc.) and just restore to the stock T-Mobile image.
Are you saying that updating OTA to Marshmallow could limit my ability to use Sunshine for S-OFF?
I suppose I could just S-OFF now and then RUU back to Stock T-Mobile Marshmallow once released?
edit: I'm already on Lollipop 5.1 on my M9. Am I already ****-out-of-luck for Sunshine?
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Sunshine will work on the current version. We never know what will come when a new OTA's come out.
An OTA wont relock the bootloader or return it to S-ON. That is why I would recommend to do the S-off before an OTA.
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Sunshine will work on the current version. We never know what will come when a new OTA's come out.
An OTA wont relock the bootloader or return it to S-ON. That is why I would recommend to do the S-off before an OTA.
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Makes sense.
But won't unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, then going S-OFF with Sunshine make it so that the newest OTA won't be accepted as an actual over-the-air update due to the altered filesystem? I know that I can still RUU, but will RUU not revert my S-OFF back to S-ON and re-lock the bootloader? Or are those things unaffected by RUU, even as an executable RUU?
Miguel_Lancaster said:
Makes sense.
But won't unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, then going S-OFF with Sunshine make it so that the newest OTA won't be accepted as an actual over-the-air update due to the altered filesystem? I know that I can still RUU, but will RUU not revert my S-OFF back to S-ON and re-lock the bootloader? Or are those things unaffected by RUU, even as an executable RUU?
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The RUU will not relock bootloader or rewrite S-On. To accept OTA, you need to have stock unmodified device.
You could run the RUU again or just unroot and flash stock recovery. The OTA will not wipe the device but the RUU will.
Hope this helps.
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You say you got rid of twrp and tried to flash the stock recovery but adb is not working, so what recovery is currently on the phone?
I think the simplest solution would be to run the latest RUU from your sd card since you have adb issues (most likely a driver).
This will bring you to current stock 2.11.531.19. This will wipe the device and you must use a 4-32GB sd card.
Place it on the root of the sd card and boot into download mode, vol up to update and let it run.
you can get the RUU here
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Thanks for this! Im having trouble with my computer and have been looking for a ruu zip all day lol. Will give this a shot on my TMOUS S-Off M9 tomorrow so I can jump to my next device.