Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
NightOrchid said:
Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
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I'd actually pick whichever one has the best deal right now are you getting a new plan or an upgrade? I'd personally just wait for the Nokia 1020. Either that or one with Micro SD.
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of all your options i would suggest the 8x i have it and think its great games are smooth camera is pretty good beats audio is amazing or you can wait for the 1020
Thanks for the replies, appreciated , Im actually 6 months into a 2 year contract with EE, so ide just be swapping my S3 LTE for one of them. I looked at the 1020 and the 8X. Both look great and Samsung is just Samsung.. works with every thing any codec any app.
I like 8X but it would mean dropping from 4.8 to 4.3 screen, but plus side.. No blue-y pentile AMOLED. Im a big fan of Beats.. the sound chip not the crappy headphones (I use Sonnheiser buds anyway).
Theres just too many issues with the 920 for comfort, or I could keep my S3 and pick up a cheap 2nd hand 8x or 8s.
Ill probably go 8X for the camera and screen.. but anymore help would be appreciated.
Cheers
ATIV S has the largest screen and the largest battery (even though it's removable) while still managing to be one of the thinnest WP models. The camera is good for a phone but nothing special the way the 920's camera is. I have no trouble hearing the ringtone, but I keep the volume up when not on headphones. Sound quality is nothing amazing but is certainly adequate for a non-audiophile. It's also the only high-end WP8 device with an SD slot; the value of 80GB of phone storage is incredible for people with large music/video collections. I can atttest to the fact that support from Samsung is meh, but there have been firmware updates released and the OEM apps (things like call blocking and other such utility/feature apps in addition to the general stocks/weather/notes/whatever apps) are updated regularly.
The music player and syncing are using the same software on all WP8 devices so you won't see a difference in supported Codecs on any of them. A Nokia and a Samsung will be exactlly the same in that regard. The display on the Ativ S is the same as on the SGS3 which in both cases means PenTile AMOLED.
The Ativ S unfortunately is the only one of the phones mentioned that does not provide an Equalizer or anything else to improve sound over headphones. You get an Equalizer + Beats on the 8X or Equalizer + Dolby Headphone on the 920/820/925/1020.
As for battery life: the Ativ S will last you definitely longer than the Lumia 920 (the difference is bigger than the 300 mAh difference leads you to believe. At least in my usage and I have both the 920 and the Ativ S.
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Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
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Besides a buggy whatsapp app (which has been fixed by now) my Lumia 920 has had no problems with the battery what so ever. I am just about to plug it in after 36hrs of usage. The speakers in the 920 are great and the camera is good as well.
I prefer the Nokia music player over the default one. At first it stopped remembering playlists etc, but after a few updates (and now whatsapp doesnt abuse music api anymore) I have no problems with it at all. The Nokia exclusive apps should be the main reason to go with them, so an 820 with replaceable battery and SD card slot could be a good choice as well. I don't use sync to PC so can't help you on that.
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...820 with replaceable battery and SD card slot could be a good choice as well...
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Got an 820 about a week ago, an am very happy with it. Somewhat inferior camera compared to 920 but otherwise it's very comparable and feels much smaller.
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Got an 820 about a week ago, an am very happy with it. Somewhat inferior camera compared to 920 but otherwise it's very comparable and feels much smaller.
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The reason I chose the 920 over an 820 was the screen brightness and quality. I loved the design of the 820 more (even though I've grown quite fond of my 920's design) but the screen on the 920 was looking a lot better when I compared them in the store. I've heard other people say the prefer the 820 screen over the 920 though, because of the better display of black so it's just personal preference.
I chose the samsung ativ s for LTE support on TMO. It is the thinnest phone, the sd card support is huge in my book and I love the screen. Pentile or no pentile. I have had no problem finding accessories for it off of amazon - currently sporting a jcase on it. I have seen both the 8x and 920 and they just seemed bigger. I don't have a problem with the ringtones, the speaker phone is a tad low for my tastes.
All that being said - if music is your thing - I would avoid a win8 phone until they fix how to make a playlist. OMG is it frustrating. You need a degree just to figure it out.
Right now for Windows Phone, a Nokia device is the way to go. With all the support the carrier has thrown behind Windows Phone, there is just no other choice. All the exclusive Nokia apps and functionality, the awesome camera on the 920 (and the 1020), and just the general excellent support that Nokia has given WP/Microsoft, its difficult to go with anyone else at this point.
Nokia Music is an app on Nokia devices that is optional. You don't have to use it if you don't like it. I haven't heard any complaints about it, more praise than anything. Windows Phone has a music player built in, and if you are referring to that player being buggy, then its the same on every device, as that is a built-in Windows Phone system app and is no different on any other device from any manufacturer.
Sync to PC is also exactly the same for any Windows Phone device. So if one phone is having issues, you can experience similar issues between all devices from any manufacturer. That being said, the PC software to sync is mostly to blame, as its pretty terrible, but will be updated as time goes on. You can always use mass storage mode to sync media if you choose to, you don't have to use the Windows Phone desktop software.
Battery issues can be found on all devices. Personally I have had great luck with my Lumia 920, providing enough battery power to last me through the day. As with any operating system, the biggest factor in battery life is apps. Everyone uses different apps, and some know how to manage their power usage, while others eat up electricity like its going out of style. Games especially take their toll on Windows Phones, but in most cases, I hear good things about the 920's battery management.
Agree in nokia, except for the lack of SD, nokia is the way to go,
but wait for the 1020 or go for the 925 the weigth of the 920 is not worth unless you are using the wireless power charge.
Lumia.
NightOrchid said:
Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
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My advice is: buy a Lumia.
Great camera, high quality materials and Nokia have a big support for his smartphone (all camera's app, Amber update, ecc)
I suppose the ATIV S external speaker could be louder, but it's not quiet. I usually have no problem hearing my phone, and can even play music to a (relatively) quiet room using it. The rear camera is not up to Lumia 920 quality, much less 1020 quality, but it's not bad. The front camera is actually much better than on any Lumia I've seen yet. The display is pentile AMOLED, but the resolution is so high that I have no problem with it, and I haven't observed it to be "blueish". Samsung support was late coming - the phone's firmware shipped with some pretty bad bugs - but there was a firmware update shipped along with GDR2 that fixed most issues for me. The Samsung apps list, while less impressive than the Nokia one, isn't terrible and includes some cool stuff (like app folders) that the others don't have. It's also possible to install apps from other OEMs anyhow. The built-in Diagnosis app is easy to access and includes some cool stuff like wired tethering (gets around most tethering restrictions). The battery is not only removable, it's also larger than that of any other WP8 device.
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I know the Kaiser is not out yet, and I know for fact that I will be one of the first buyers, because the Kaiser simply rocks
But lets face it! what do you guys think is missing in the Kaiser (tytn II), and makes you wish to have in the upcoming successor (tytn III maybe)
for me, this is my wish list:
1- SiRFIII not A-GPS (SiRFIII seems more sensitive, A-GPS takes too much time for initial fix based on my experience with the Trinity)
2- A built-in flash for the camera for night shots (5 MP would be nice also)
3- VGA screen (this will soon become a standard in all devices i think)
4- Blending the screen edges or level with the device body in a manner similar to the HTC touch and enabling the Touch-Cube
5- FM Tuner
hmmmmmmm not so important also but would be nice to have a 3.5mm or 2.5mm jack for stereo headphones and not being restricted to the mini-usb.....
For me, I would like to see the following:
1. VGA output via USB (for connecting to a data projector)
2. Support mobile TV standard like DVB-H
3. A flash light like that in Hermes, so that I can use it as a torch at night.
well I already said im getting one to replace my ill fated 8125. But here is a short list I would have loved to see this phone have but sizewise no way it would of fit in.
Fm radio
Video out
VGA screen
sterio speakers
A flash
standard headphone jack
Built in HD of 4+ gb (apple has more then proven it can be done so do it)
GPU of the GeForce flavor
A cdma chip to match its GMS set up make it a true world phone
Higher res cam 3.0 is nice but still fairly weak
Toss those into the bad boy and well yea it would be just kick ass.
+4gb HD
+1GB Ram
VGA
TV tuner
FM tuner
+1ghz processor
multitouch screen
very bright xeon flash.
IR port. (for using as a remote for my TV)
+6mp camera (even tho it already has a good camera)
Louder, clearer, stereo speakers with bass.
I only want a VGA screen!!
Why have a 4G HD when you can have a 4G or more micro SD card. MicroSD consumes less power and easy to move around and replace. With a HD, you are stuck with what it is. No upgradability.
And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.
vga screen and tv out. nothing else..
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And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.
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I agree ... big time agree
Phone manufacturers are fooling all of u with the pixel game... they dont talk much about sensor and lense because they know what the result will show.... not to mention the zoom .... one excuse in the past that cell phones have no optical zooms because it will make the phone bulky ... well this is maybe true in the past ... but one look at sony's new cybershots DSC-t100 for example will tell you that everthing now is changed
My wish list would be:-
FM Radio
3.5mm audio jack
VGA toughened touch Screen which is also flush to make it easy to clean
Camera flash which doubles as torch
Infrared (I know it's a bit obsolete but I currently use IR on Vario 2 (hermes) as my TV and Sky remote )
Don't want much do I
Oh yea Nicky flush screen is a good one.
The Hermes suffers from screen misalignment mainly because of the dusts getting into the sides!
But the Kaiser should have a 3.5mm audio jack via an adaptor cable like the Hermes.
my dream is a kaiser exactly like it is now.....
but with a weight of 120 max 130 grams
1. FM Tuner
2. 3.5mm "standard" audio-out port
3. VGA Screen
4. Few mms thinner and narrower!
my wish list for the Kaiser II
VGA screen
Multi touch screen ala Iphone
3.5mm head phone socket
USB host
IR which will operate TV etc accross a room
Battery life of a Nokia 6310
Wake from standby on receipt of SMS, MMS, Email, IM
Webcam functionality
Network share folder
Camera flash
Reliable alarm
Decent carrier supplied ROM.
Twin sim slots
Ability to multitask eg. TomTom, MediaPlayer, IM and phone call simultaneously.
Oh and I want it to weigh next to nothing, be droppable without scratching and to survive being dropped in water.
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my wish list for the Kaiser II
VGA screen
Multi touch screen ala Iphone
3.5mm head phone socket
USB host
IR which will operate TV etc accross a room
Battery life of a Nokia 6310
Wake from standby on receipt of SMS, MMS, Email, IM
Webcam functionality
Network share folder
Camera flash
Reliable alarm
Decent carrier supplied ROM.
Twin sim slots
Ability to multitask eg. TomTom, MediaPlayer, IM and phone call simultaneously.
Oh and I want it to weigh next to nothing, be droppable without scratching and to survive being dropped in water.
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lol The water one is a good one, I have lost two phones now by accidentally dropping them in water .. whoops
Sounds like you might be a little unlucky with your current phone though because my Vario 2 (Hermes) already has a reliable alarm (albeit with 3rd party software) and has no problem waking for SMS, IM etc... it isn't too bad on the multi-tasking front either .. ie. media player and Tomtom running simultaneously and streaming all via A2DP to my headset .. didn't think that was too bad going although an incoming call can throw a spanner in the works sometimes
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And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.
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well let me rephrase what i ment.
6mo Cmos Camera. the same quality as the kaiser but higher resolution.
and for the HD, yes i thought about that, but ROM is much faster than a storage card usually. so actually i'd like 1-4gb of Rom.
I only want
* decent quality finish (it should not peel off in two weeks)
* for christ's shake, ANTI REFLECTIVE SCREEN
the rest is okay.
Many have asked for 3.5mm audio plug for Kaiser for use with headphones. I think I have read somewhere that audio coming out from the USB port would be much cleaner than the 3.5 mm analog audio port. Reason is the USB port is digital so there is no need for the digital to analog conversion. Hence the USB headphones are in general preferred over the analog headphone if audio quality if a prime consideration.
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* for christ's shake, ANTI REFLECTIVE SCREEN
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I didn't think an anti-reflective coating was possible for a transflective screen??
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Many have asked for 3.5mm audio plug for Kaiser for use with headphones. I think I have read somewhere that audio coming out from the USB port would be much cleaner than the 3.5 mm analog audio port. Reason is the USB port is digital so there is no need for the digital to analog conversion. Hence the USB headphones are in general preferred over the analog headphone if audio quality if a prime consideration.
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yes, it is. i had heard an dread the same. which is why i want the usb audio port. i remember the 2.5 and 3.5mm slots would break or get stuck, but usb would not do that. plus it would be much faster, no need to wait for it to switch profiles and lag your phone.
Hi!
I've been reading alot on this forum and im very intersted in the S730, and by reading your posts here the majority seems to think the s730 is a great phone, but noone has said anything considering the video-driver issue in tytnII, whether its a problem in the s730 too?, So how is the video playbak in s730, is it possible to watch a 320x240 movie or TV-series, because i always downsize my shows to 320x240 will i not have any problems?, i currently have an Dell axim x30 which i often use to listen to music or watch movies and it has a 624Mhz processor which gives me smooth video playback, and would hate myself if i bought the s730 and the video playback would be lagging in 320x240...
And also, how is the call quality? is it clear and is the sim-card automatically set up?
thanks in advance...
/Johan
Watching 320x240 is no problem. CorePlayer (TCPMP) handles it well, all is smooth, the cpu power is enough up to 30 - 33 FPS (MPEG-4 ASP, 300 - 400 kbit/s).
What program are you using to downsize the videos?
They way I am currently doing it is too slow
However video playback is perfect. Even with the full resolution video's it only studders on the video and my audio is solid. (core player as well)
Thanks for the answers, and im pleased to hear that watching videos on th S730 is smooth. I'll probably go for this phone, and hope that you guys continue finding good ways of maximizing the performance in the phone!
An btw when I downsize my series or movies i often use pocketdivxencoder found here http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ . But most of the videos i downsize are Family guy and American Dad so im not really sure on how the result of a real movie would be, but i guess if you maximize both the video and audio quality , you would still end up with a reasonable small file with nice quality!
But to my other question, is the call quality good? in other words does it perform well as a phone?, and i read about the memory leak which i hope will get fixed, but will it cause any trouble if i listen to music via the bluetooth A2DP profile when not using any other programs?
Cool, filesize isnt a problem with my 6gb sd card. I'll play with it. My way works but too much hassle.
My old phone was not very good, so I cant speak too much about call quality. I find its very good overall, I had one occation where my connection was bad (kinda remote location with 1 bar signal) and the person on the other end said I was full of static, did clear up though.
Thats the only issue I have had. The earpiece speaker volume could go up a little higher but I have never had problems not being able to understand people.
i used TCPMP with mine, and the 400mhz makes a huge difference
i barely have to convert any video now when i'm watching my shows (usually in 700x200 or something like that)
with steady framerate and quality
if it starts to stutter or slowdown, i just turn the quality a bit lower in the player and it plays back just fine
yeap
Ic watched normal divx's on the phone, so yeah its very good
I am having some minor and major bugs with my new Nokia 7 Plus camera.
First of all while recording videos even in quiet rooms the audio track is filled with a loud hiss. Is that normal, or a hardware fault? Test-Video
Secondly i have a strange bug: as soon as i use the camera zoom in my stock camera app, the zoom won't work for any other app anymore, until i reboot my device (snapchat, whatsapp, instagram). After a reboot the zoom is working fine for those apps, but as soon as i start the stock camera app and use the zoom, it stops working again for those apps until i reboot.
In the end i would like to know if there is any possibility to enable OZO Audio System wide and not only in the stock camera app?
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Hey guys, after 4 days of using my brand new Nokia 7 plus i have encounterd several problems, mostly regarding the camera.
I have problems over several apps:
- Instagram no sound in stories while in vibration mode.
- Snapchat video quality is very very poor and pixilated
- Camera Zoom in Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp sometimes works and sometimes not.
- Stock Camera app, sometimes there are glitches when the camera is switching from wide to tele in lowlight. Overall video performance is not that good as expected to be. Also Google Camera apk delivers better results for me, so this could be a software issue as well.
- Playstore and Recent apps window sometimes lags
Anyone else experiencing those bugs?
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I notice some stutters too when using recent apps. I guess that could be fixed with optimization. Let's hope that they'll do that. I have no issues with camera, I'm pretty pleased with it.
Some Finnish users have reported noise issues in video recordings. Even in quiet rooms the audio track is filled with a loud hiss. It seems that this problem is presisten but only in few devices. That could suggest that there's some faulty hardware in stock.
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Some Finnish users have reported noise issues in video recordings. Even in quiet rooms the audio track is filled with a loud hiss. It seems that this problem is presisten but only in few devices. That could suggest that there's some faulty hardware in stock.
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Guess i am experiecing the exact same problem. Do you really think this is a faulty hardware, or is that normal?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aw0z5ln5Is4koPhs2
https://youtu.be/S03AXa3PIgA
While filming this there was no wind nor waterfall near by. The background hiss sounds like a static mono noise.
Having OZO audio only in stock camera and not even a dedicated audio recording tool is *really* pissing me off. Also, today I shoot a video at 1080p and noticed that the audio is a tiny bit out of sync. Is there any Nokia feedback app to report this issues?
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Having OZO audio only in stock camera and not even a dedicated audio recording tool is *really* pissing me off. Also, today I shoot a video at 1080p and noticed that the audio is a tiny bit out of sync. Is there any Nokia feedback app to report this issues?
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yeah this is really anoying, hopefully they fix this with a software update!
would you mind checking that issue for me:?
Secondly i have a strange bug: as soon as i use the camera zoom in my stock camera app, the zoom won't work for any other app anymore, until i reboot my device (snapchat, whatsapp, instagram). After a reboot the zoom is working fine for those apps, but as soon as i start the stock camera app and use the zoom, it stops working again for those apps until i reboot. Sometimes the zoom in those apps also just zoom x2 and then nothing happen
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Using Mobile Nokia Care default app to ask about enabling OZO Audio System wide in phone and not only in camera stock app and their reply was: "At the moment, that is not possible, since the OZO technology needs to be licensed"
So I asked them to recored this as a request to be done in a future system update.
So I hope it will happen soon because recording audio without using OZO is really bad
Nokia 7 plus Google camera slow motion not working
Sorry to bring back a dead thread but I'm also getting the Snapchat/Instagram/Messenger zoom issue. It either zooms fine, jumps between 2 zoom points (I'm guessing jumping between the two cameras) or it doesn't zoom at all. It's getting irritating.
Bugs/problems:
-Front camera 4mpx and not 16mpx in all the apps that are not Nokia.
-Really low audio recording in al apps that are not nokia.
-Video stabilozation working really bad, ruinning the videow.
-Camera2 api not working in 2X cam. (Not necesary a bug(
NahuelMS said:
Bugs/problems:
-Front camera 4mpx and not 16mpx in all the apps that are not Nokia.
-Really low audio recording in al apps that are not nokia.
-Video stabilozation working really bad, ruinning the videow.
-Camera2 api not working in 2X cam. (Not necesary a bug(
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Still confused with the Nokia Seven Plus front camera, Saw that the front camera is 16 million pixels, enough to check with #AIDA64 4mpx sorry for my English.
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Still confused with the Nokia Seven Plus front camera, Saw that the front camera is 16 million pixels, enough to check with #AIDA64 4mpx sorry for my English.
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It is false advertisement. It is actually 4mpx upscaled to 16mpx by software.
NahuelMS said:
It is false advertisement. It is actually 4mpx upscaled to 16mpx by software.
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Are your sure?
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Are your sure?
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The main sensor in the phone is a Sony IMX362 Exmor RS, not a samsung one. So i don't think that information is correct.
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The main sensor in the phone is a Sony IMX362 Exmor RS, not a samsung one. So i don't think that information is correct.
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I think that Sony IMX362 and Samsung S5K2L7 are almost the same sensor. Both of them 7.06 mm (1/2.6") sensor size, 1,4 μm pixel size, 4032 x 3024 (12,2 MP) resolution and dual pixel PDA. How are you so sure that Nokia 7 Plus uses IMX362? Maybe Nokia does the same as some Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones, that use a Sony sensor in some batches and its Samsung equivalent in other batches
Anyway, I cannot believe that Nokia could have implemented a front 4 MP sensor interpolated to 16 MP. It would make sense 3-4 years ago, when we were on the "MP rush", but today the price of camera modules doesn't depend on sensor resolution. In fact, most of the best smartphone cameras have 12 MP (iPhone XS, Pixel 3, Samsung S10) and in the other hand you have a lot of cheap chinese smartphones with 16 or 20 MP sensors, so it would be stupid to use an interpolated 4 MP sensor having a lot of 16 MP sensor at really low prices.
Regards
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I think that Sony IMX362 and Samsung S5K2L7 are almost the same sensor. Both of them 7.06 mm (1/2.6") sensor size, 1,4 μm pixel size, 4032 x 3024 (12,2 MP) resolution and dual pixel PDA. How are you so sure that Nokia 7 Plus uses IMX362? Maybe Nokia does the same as some Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones, that use a Sony sensor in some batches and its Samsung equivalent in other batches
Anyway, I cannot believe that Nokia could have implemented a front 4 MP sensor interpolated to 16 MP. It would make sense 3-4 years ago, when we were on the "MP rush", but today the price of camera modules doesn't depend on sensor resolution. In fact, most of the best smartphone cameras have 12 MP (iPhone XS, Pixel 3, Samsung S10) and in the other hand you have a lot of cheap chinese smartphones with 16 or 20 MP sensors, so it would be stupid to use an interpolated 4 MP sensor having a lot of 16 MP sensor at really low prices.
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Nokia is indeed using the S5K2L7 (Wide) and S5K3M3 (Tele) sensor for the rear cameras of Nokia 8 Sirocco and Nokia 7 plus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_8_Sirocco
In the MWC video ( https://youtu.be/BaUh9HgjJtQ?t=2170 ) of Nokia 7 plus, they announced that the camera would be the same.
The front camera on 8 Sirocco is S5K4E8.
If Nokia's pixel binning claims are true, then the front camera of 7 plus is most probably S5K3P9.
How did I arrive at the conclusion ?
Photo resolution taken with the front camera 4608 x 3456 which is the closer to the maximum resolution of S5K3P9.
So indeed the sensor on front is a 16MP with Tetracell technology.
Heavy problems with white balance always, the video is terrible with the tertible stabilization and noise even in good ligth. For me video is unusable.
So the zoom bug also affects other apps. Hehe. That's interesting and annoying at the same time.
Hey guys
First of all, sorry I have to use a translator.
2 questions:
1, still has who that problem that the speaker (ear) scratches? I now have the third phone where this occurs and at some point all the participants in the conversation are scratchy audible. Little info about this, even all 3 phones have the problem that the USB port wobbles at some point.
To the actual,
Topic-SUPERPIXEL
So what about 7 +? ICh had followed the performances, live and and, it was mentioned and presented extra big.
The thing is now the,
A. one does not notice in any preset about this, either in 16MP or in 4Mp, apart from that only the 4MP is likely to be a superpixel image, but it would also have to have the same Aspect ratio, namely 16MP 4:3 to 4MP 4:3, but there are only 4MP 16:9.
When you talk to Nokia about it (and I have that often and long), there are the most curious answers.
-SUPERPIXEL does not exist
-SUPERPIXEL has never been announced or unveiled
-SUPERPIXEL is not going because the SENSOR does not have super-large pixels
-16MP is the superpixel image (ok, 4 becomes one, so we have a sensor that in the original offers four times 16MP? Good joke.
-4MP is correct and yes it must have the same ASPECT ratio, which it has (no that is not true and you don't see any of it either)
Even to the question why all other apps can only recognize and use 4MP, Nokia does not give an answer, even if one points out the false SUPERPIXEL answers,
And I also mean, no answer, means that as soon as one draws attention to the wrong information the conversations are canceled or ignored.
Happens via email, chat, facebook chat.
Even the contacts who were responsible for more intensive conversations and long conversations simply no longer answer, emails are answered (manually) with the statement one is not domestic, knows nothing or cannot answer.
In the Facebook Chat where you tried really for a long time and also realized that you get conflicting information with deeper internal requests just doesn't answer anymore.
There is massively something lazy, even if it only sounded funny, with these 4MP, this 16MP and that Superpixel is missing is true what is not.
Since the 16MP looks even worse visually (zoom) than with a third provider camera app in 4MP, there is a real suspicion that the 4MP will be scaled up to 16MP (which of course does not make the picture better) instead of taking from 16MP to 4 pixels each to one (What PureView or Superpixel means).
I think slowly there is really something lazy.
I've had this problem too.
--still has who that problem that the speaker (ear) scratches? I now have the third phone where this occurs and at some point all the participants in the conversation are scratchy audible. Little info about this, even all 3 phones have the problem that the USB port wobbles at some point.
For the phone mic being scratchy, I have a small air hand pump (bicycle pump) which I use to clean out the mic holes (2 that I can see. I heard there's 3 but I don't know where the 3rd one is). Hope this helps.
Hello, new S21 Ultra (Exynos) owner here.
I and my mate are doing a video podcast of sorts and were eager to select the best video setting on my new S21 Ultra - resolution, FPS, wide or main camera etc. We shot some with his Galaxy A71 for control purposes and played our samples back on his Samsung 4K TV. And as the video quality on the S21 Ultra was in most cases better (not much on the wide-angle, it had decent detail but was grainy), the microphone levels were considerably lower than those on the A71.
The quality was there, the details also, but the overall sound was way more silent and the bass/treble was nearly non-existent compared to the ones on the other device.
We started trying to change different settings on my phone with no effect. It's not an S21 Ultra playback issue, as I sent a video to his phone to stream it to the TV from there and the difference persisted.
Compared to a video on my wife's Samsung M31 the difference is also the same.
I did not discover any particular microphone settings other than the zoom-in mic, which made no difference turned off or on. Can it be some other app using the microphone and screwing up its performance? I really hoped that the sound captured on the S21 Ultra would be impressive and not at all sub-par.
Use the pro video mode, there you can change what mics to use....front, back or both or external mic
termdj said:
Use the pro video mode, there you can change what mics to use....front, back or both or external mic
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It works OK by adding 10db to the sound level, but yet I didn't need to use this mode on the other devices. Hopefully the may update will improve this issue. At least it doesn't seem to be hardware related.