I spend half my time in the Miami Florida, and half doing volunteer work in India. I currently use a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and want to upgrade to the HTC One. I prefer to use T-Mobile, selecting the appropriate plan as needed. AT&T is an option as well, but more expensive.
I purchased the HTC One Google Edition, knowing it lacks one of the radios needed for T-Mobile to get 3G, assuming that once T-Mobile gets LTE going, I would be all set. I still have 10 days to return it, if I want.
I want the stock Android, meaning I can either keep this phone, or get a standard T-Mobile HTC One, and learn how to change the firmware. (I know nothing about changing a ROM, other than what I've learned from reading, nor do I know anyone who does that sort of thing. If I did, my question might not be necessary.....)
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The HTC One Google Edition is "supposed" to be better for international use. The specs from the HTC web page about this model have the following listed under "bands":
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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When I go to what is supposed to be the similar specification page for the HTC One as sold by T-Mobile, I see the following:
Network:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
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To me, it's difficult to compare the two, as they are written so differently. It's strange that the T-Mobile specs even list "Sprint" at the bottom.
Anyway, back to my questions.
a) Which of these two phones would be better, for use in both USA (T-Mobile) and India (Vodafone)?
b) If I go with the T-Mobile version, how might I find someone to teach me how to update the ROM to the Google Edition specs?
c) Other than the lack of the radio for T-Mobile 3G, is there anything else lacking in the HTC One Google Edition?
Sorry for initially posting this in the wrong place.
I'm not even sure this is the right forum to be asking - I'm basically when it comes to first grade when it comes to the topics being discussed in this forum. I need to do a LOT of reading here, before I can even ask questions properly.
If anyone here knows the difference between the two phones, I'd appreciate some help. Have called HTC, T-Mobile, and Android tech support, and it's terribly scary when most of the time I find out I know more than the people I'm talking to.... until we get a supervisor on, who is more likely to understand these things.
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I'm having a hard time figuring this one out.
I am in the market for this new phone but I can't seem to find out exactly what I need.
I am a TMobile subscriber in the US but travel to China about half of the year. I currently have a HTC Sensation that works on the 2100mhz 3g frequency in China with China Unicom. The spec sheet for the HTC one confuses me:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
If I buy the Tmobile variant, which of these frequencies will the phone come with? I'm guessing I will get the Europe/Asia HSPA/WCDMA bands as well as the GSM/GPRS/EDGE as well as the LTE listed for Tmobile but not the other LTE bands.
Is this correct?
Thanks for your help.
HTC One on the Sprint seem to be a world phone. It does have a Sim Card slot available.
Most likely Sprint will be locking the sim on all US carriers and would allow you to call in to unlock the sim portion for international use. I wonder when they will allow you to do this? Iphone users usually need to wait 90 days (active account) in order to unlock the sim.
Let's hear who has done this in the next week or two.
I can confirm that the Sprint version is simlocked. I put my sim in and it said simlock activated contact customer care.
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I know it has the unlock codes for PIN1/PUK1 on your account. Don't know about truly unlocking it.
This is pretty exciting. Where is the SIM slot on the phone? I can't find it in any of the pictures... is it hidden behind a button that pops up or something?
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Oh and nice avatar chazybaz
agent0014 said:
This is pretty exciting. Where is the SIM slot on the phone? I can't find it in any of the pictures... is it hidden behind a button that pops up or something?
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Oh and nice avatar chazybaz
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It's on the left side towards the top. Funny thing is, the Sprint version doesn't come with a SIM removal tool.
eXplicit815 said:
Funny thing is, the Sprint version doesn't come with a SIM removal tool.
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Who would have ever guessed? A pair of tweezers won't do the trick?
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So once I call customer service to unlock, I should be able to buy a prepaid SIM in canada and just pop it in? I'd have a new number, but I'm fine with that. I just want to play ingress in Toronto LOL.
Still not sure what GSM bands it is capable of. It's been said elsewhere that it is just GSM 900/1800 capable.
It's not for GSM, but for LTE.
Please read the reviews.
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It's on the left side towards the top. Funny thing is, the Sprint version doesn't come with a SIM removal tool.
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I knew my old IPhone tools would come in handy someday.
Everytime a new device comes out we seem to have the same discussion about SIM cards.
When are we going to finally understand Sprint phones work out of a funky frequency that GMS carriers don't pick up. So no your SIM card won't work on this phone.
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It has support for a couple of odd bands. Won't do you much use though.
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It supports the most common euro bands...
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the HTC ONE supports all GSM frequencies making it a world phone capable of using local SIM in other countries. Thanks.
kams01 said:
the HTC ONE supports all GSM frequencies making it a world phone capable of using local SIM in other countries. Thanks.
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How sure are you about this ? Can you point us to an official link which confirms that?
Also is the gsm bands pre-unlocked for outside states use ?
dev997 said:
How sure are you about this ? Can you point us to an official link which confirms that?
Also is the gsm bands pre-unlocked for outside states use ?
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http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
see the section about 2G/2.5G GSM:
"2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps"
I am looking into the unlocked portion and will respond shortly.
kams01 said:
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
see the section about 2G/2.5G GSM:
"2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps"
I am looking into the unlocked portion and will respond shortly.
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Unfortunately, I doubt that this applies to the Sprint version. The reason I say this is because generally if a device has the technical capability of operating on bands that are available in the US, it needs to be tested and approved by the FCC for those bands (even if the carrier distributing the phone doesn't operate on those frequencies). However, the One did not undergo such testing. Same holds true for the UMTS 1900 band. Therefore, from a GSM/UMTS perspective, it appears that the device is good mostly for roaming in Europe and some Asian countries (and even then, not perfectly since there some carriers which supplement UMTS service with UMTS 900, which apperantly the Sprint Variant doesn't do either). The ostensible lack of GSM 850 / GSM 1900 and UMTS 850, UMTS 900 and UMTS 1900 does mean that the phone will not GSM roam in most of the Western Hemiphere as well as certain countries/carriers in Asia unfortunately.
kams01 said:
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
see the section about 2G/2.5G GSM:
"2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps"
I am looking into the unlocked portion and will respond shortly.
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Yeah that's not the sprint version there bud, that's the international version... Hence the lack of LTE mention... Ad other poster mentioned... Less the freq was tested during FCC testing..... Good luck getting it to work on a carrier that supports freq not tested at FCC testing when they tested the Sprint version.... Same can be said for the international version coming and working on sprint... Same as why the sprint one won't work on VZ LTE... Diff freq.
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sgt. slaughter said:
Yeah that's not the sprint version there bud, that's the international version... Hence the lack of LTE mention... Ad other poster mentioned... Less the freq was tested during FCC testing..... Good luck getting it to work on a carrier that supports freq not tested at FCC testing when they tested the Sprint version.... Same can be said for the international version coming and working on sprint... Same as why the sprint one won't work on VZ LTE... Diff freq.
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if you read closely, HTC is listing all common features on the phone, then splits it into carrier specific frequencies: All HTC ONE's support the 2G/2.5G frequencies for GSM, just like previously the Motorola Photon 4G and HTC Design 4G, iPhone 4S/5. the UMTS/HSPA then has some carrier specific limitations and then of course every LTE carrier has different frequencies, hence different SKU's for each carrier. I personally have used the HTC Design 4G abroad before without any issue. I hope this helps.
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
I bought a One the other day assuming I could use it with a pay as you go SIM from a canadian provider when I make my somewhat frequent trips to Toronto. Can someone absolutely confirm or deny that I'll be able to do that? If not, I might go the 14 day return policy route and return it :-/
I'm from U.S. and don't want the AT&T variant, so when I went on Negri to search for a unlocked black one I see the S and N versions. Does anyone know the differences and which one supports LTE on AT&T and possibly T-Mo? I'm having trouble finding unlocked black ones at reasonable prices. And from the T-Mo site, they don't carry black.
EVOXGSR said:
I'm from U.S. and don't want the AT&T variant, so when I went on Negri to search for a unlocked black one I see the S and N versions. Does anyone know the differences and which one supports LTE on AT&T and possibly T-Mo? I'm having trouble finding unlocked black ones at reasonable prices. And from the T-Mo site, they don't carry black.
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As far as I know the only difference is in the 4G radio frequencies, hardware is same otherwise
801e = Non LTE version
801n = LTE version, following frequencies: Network: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / HSPA/WCDMA: 900/1900/2100 MHz / 4G/LTE: 800/1800/2600 MHz
801s = LTE version, following frequencies: Network: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / HSPA/WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz / 4G/LTE: 1800/2600 MHz
You can confirm from ATT and T-Mo websites or customer service if, and which, will work best
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As far as I know the only difference is in the 4G radio frequencies, hardware is same otherwise
801e = Non LTE version
801n = LTE version, following frequencies: Network: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / HSPA/WCDMA: 900/1900/2100 MHz / 4G/LTE: 800/1800/2600 MHz
801s = LTE version, following frequencies: Network: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / HSPA/WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz / 4G/LTE: 1800/2600 MHz
You can confirm from ATT and T-Mo websites or customer service if, and which, will work best
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thanks. I found really little information on distinguishing differences for these models. I will go forward and try to confirm LTE compatibility with the 801n it seems
I have quite a dumb question, but not all questions are dumb.
Where I'm from my carrier sells the HTC one sprint variant the silver/white color.
I'm wonder if I made a mistake buying the black version.
Main question and a little back ground, I bought an HTC thunderbolt a few years ago and I was bummed that I couldn't activate it with my carrier. I am afraid that I won't be able to activate my shiny new black HTC one.
I've asked my carrier what variant the sell, and they told me the sprint branded HTC one.
Do you think I'll have any issues with activation?
Does the black have the SAME exact radios/etc, I am hoping this will be as painless as possible.
Thanks for your time
v1ral said:
I have quite a dumb question, but not all questions are dumb.
Where I'm from my carrier sells the HTC one sprint variant the silver/white color.
I'm wonder if I made a mistake buying the black version.
Main question and a little back ground, I bought an HTC thunderbolt a few years ago and I was bummed that I couldn't activate it with my carrier. I am afraid that I won't be able to activate my shiny new black HTC one.
I've asked my carrier what variant the sell, and they told me the sprint branded HTC one.
Do you think I'll have any issues with activation?
Does the black have the SAME exact radios/etc, I am hoping this will be as painless as possible.
Thanks for your time
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It depends which modes your carrier supports and if the phone is sim unlocked or not.
These are the modes the sprint htc one supports.
LTE 1900
WCDMA 1900 / 2100
CDMA 800 / 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Verizon version supports LTE 750 instead of 1900
edit: here is a more detailed list of modes supported:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - CDMA:
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 1900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Hmm..
Well ATM I have the first HTC dinc which is from Verizon which made me I can activate the thunderbolt I had purchase, they weren't able to do it.
Im hoping its just an easy set-up, but my carrier does in fact carry the phone.
So as long as specs line up I should be good to go?
v1ral said:
Hmm..
Well ATM I have the first HTC dinc which is from Verizon which made me I can activate the thunderbolt I had purchase, they weren't able to do it.
Im hoping its just an easy set-up, but my carrier does in fact carry the phone.
So as long as specs line up I should be good to go?
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It should work....It might be slow as hell depending on the coverage near you. Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586704
Hi guys, i couldn't reach reliable answers about my doubts:
i am from italy and i want to buy an htc one developer edition (a guy sells it near to me) but i can't understand if i will be able to use it without any issue here in italy. i mean, LTE, 3g, H+, calls, messagging, etc.. will everything work fine here?
And plus, i will obviously do some modding, like flash roms, kernels, recovery, mods, etc.. will i have some issue? i read a guy had a problem (RUU 155 error) with this one.
will i have any of these problems?
thanks for the help
Pietrone94 said:
Hi guys, i couldn't reach reliable answers about my doubts:
i am from italy and i want to buy an htc one developer edition (a guy sells it near to me) but i can't understand if i will be able to use it without any issue here in italy. i mean, LTE, 3g, H+, calls, messagging, etc.. will everything work fine here?
And plus, i will obviously do some modding, like flash roms, kernels, recovery, mods, etc.. will i have some issue? i read a guy had a problem (RUU 155 error) with this one.
will i have any of these problems?
thanks for the help
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check your carrier frequencies to confirm but you shouldn't have any issue.
No problem to flash custom stuff to dev edition phone, its a m7_ul so everything for the M7_ul will work. There are also some RUU to restore a dev edition to stock.
alray said:
check your carrier frequencies to confirm but you shouldn't have any issue.
No problem to flash custom stuff to dev edition phone, its a m7_ul so everything for the M7_ul will work. There are also some RUU to restore a dev edition to stock.
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i would do but i don't know how to understand if they are good or not :/
edit: another thing: the modding is the same of the 32GB european htc one, right?
G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - CDMA:
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 1900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
alray said:
G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - CDMA:
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 1900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
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Just ask it? ok, i'll do, thanks!
as concern the modding? is it the same of the european one?