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Ipad to a Nook

So the others day I made the plunge from an ipad to the Nook Color. So far im pretty impressed, being the huge gadget junkie that I am. With that being said of course I have a few complaints.
1. Android tablets lack polish. Things on the ipad that just worked seem to require solutions on the nook. I do understand that I'm using a hacked device so i take that into consideration but playing decent quality youtube should be a know brainer
2. The speaker is bad. I know this is intended to be an ebook reader but my kindle is louder, no excuse.
On to the stuff I love.
1. 7" is the perfect size for a tablet, apple should take note.
2. The keyboard is amazing and it will allow you to add words to the built in dictionary. Apple clearly dropped the ball on this.
3. The screen is great, nice and crisp. It's been a joy to read on.
4. The potential, I've grown sick of waiting on apple to add simple features. Android is a blessing. I'm looking forward to new roms and froyo in the near future.
Sent from my Nook Color using XDA App

I agree the 7" is perfect size for a tab. Walkin around with a 10" tab looks retarded.

Missing #5 You saved a boatload of money by choosing Geico (NC)

I have a 10 inch iPad and a 4 inch Galaxy S Vibrant phone. And now a 7 inch Nook Color that fills the gap inbetween.
My list of issues with the Nook.
1. Slower.
Browsing the web, market place, and some other apps feels much slower on the NC than the iPad, even slower than my Vibrant. This is rooted with Dolphin HD. It's acceptable, but wish it could be quicker. And I expect Android 2.2 will help alot (I'm using a custom Android 2.2 ROM on my Vibrant).
2. Screen is tacky.
The screen feels rough or tacky. It's not very smooth at all. Makes pinching and scrolling a little more awkward than it should be. Wish it was smoother, I suppose it will get a little smoother over time. But I don't think it'll ever feel as smooth as the iPad or Vibrant did out of the box. I guess this is some coating on the phone to make reading easier? I might have to try out a screen shield to see if they can offer a smoother finger gliding experience.
3. Battery life.
Battery life is very poor compared to the iPad (probably average for an Android device). With the iPad I never even think about the battery, I always have plenty. But with my Android phone and NookColor, battery is a constant worry and I need to keep the charger on hand.
This items are both good and bad at the same time.
1. Heavy/Sturdy.
It's heavier than I expected. I read it's heavier than the Galaxy Tab and Archos 70. However it also has a very solid sturdy feeling.
2. Ugly/Comfortable.
The bevel is ugly, mostly because of that hideous loop at the bottom. Also that loop makes accessing the microSD slot more difficult than it should be. Also not a fan of the rounded raised bevel around the screen. However the rounded edges and the rubber back do make it comfortable to hold.
What I like about the Nook over the iPad.
1. It's Android.
I'm not an Apple fan. I've really tried my best to avoid buying any Apple products because I don't like the walled garden, locked down, controlling nature of Apple products. Having an Android tablet means I have much greater freedom to what I want with the OS and apps. I imagine there will be some nice custom ROMs I'll be able to install on the Nook some day that will improve the speed issues I have now and add a lot more features.
2. Screen looks great.
While I don't like the feel of the screen, I do love how it looks. It's definitely not better than the iPad, however it's one of the best on an Android tablet. I imagine only the Galaxy Tab equals or betters it. Looks good from any angle.
3. Price.
I think the iPad is a very quality piece of hardware with very polished software and certainly worth the $500 I spent. But the Nook Color is probably even more impressive for what you get at half the price.

Having owned an ipad until last week and currently own two android devices (captivate and nookcolor)
Here are my observations
-Book apps are not that far from each other but the children books score a big thumbs up for nookcolor (not really important for me since i don't have any kids)
-Magazine apps on ipad are much better laid out and more fluid than magazines on nookcolor (ie. car and driver). Also it's currently free on ipad whereas nookcolor requires subscription
-In general, better selection of apps for ipad than nook (nook doesn't have apps and lack of scalable andoird apps for big screens really shows). Ipad has been out for a while and hopefully with the numerous tablet sized android devices flooding the market will rectify this issue
Here is one thing that nookcolor really outshines ipad.
multitasking, multitasking, multitasking
When the apps are parked in the task manager, most apps will restart when you try to access them again. I've also experienced issues with resource management on ipad trying to open PDF documents (1~2MBs in size) even when i had less than five app running (or inactively running) in task manager.
Overall i'm enjoying the form factor of nookcolor for everyday usage and hope that 2.2/2.3 release will bring some more performance to the device. Device isn't slow by any mean and nook ui may deceive consumers as being sluggish but rooted and running adw for launcher makes the device fly.

Okay so playing video kind of sucks and the youtube app doesn't play hd. Just a thought
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As far as the screen goes, it is better than the ipad for viewing. From my understanding there are 3 layers to the screen to give it good viewing angles and better viewing for reading. The resolution is also great, similar to ipad but on a smaller screen and better pixel density. Better than the Galaxy Tab resolution.
I have a matte screen protector on mine that I purchased from ebay and it makes the screen really smooth and not the sticky feel you get from stock screen. Although, I heard that it does smooth out over time.
Multitasking is great on the NC compared to Ipad and probably due to the 512 vs 256 ram on the memory. The ipad is slicker looking but you also pay more. Speed wise, all we need is a custom kernel and I am sure we can get this thing 1 or 1.2ghz. And the custom ROM with optimization will make this a lot more fluid.
I love the portability with 7" screen and it is heavier than Galaxy tab but feels sturdier.

wendellc said:
The resolution is also great, similar to ipad but on a smaller screen and better pixel density. Better than the Galaxy Tab resolution.
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The NOOK and the Galaxy Tab has the same screen resolution, I have both if them. However the Tab seems to scale its interface making every app slightly larger, making them have less usable space. I prefere the NOOKs unscaled interface.
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Tacky Screen
For those complaining about the screen being tacky, I noticed that myself initially (compared to my Droid X). However, it now no longer seems tacky, so either my fingers have worn off from playing with it LOL, or it comes with some sort of initial coating that wears off with use.

jaydon34 said:
So the others day I made the plunge from an ipad to the Nook Color. So far im pretty impressed, being the huge gadget junkie that I am. With that being said of course I have a few complaints.
1. Android tablets lack polish. Things on the ipad that just worked seem to require solutions on the nook. I do understand that I'm using a hacked device so i take that into consideration but playing decent quality youtube should be a know brainer
2. The speaker is bad. I know this is intended to be an ebook reader but my kindle is louder, no excuse.
On to the stuff I love.
1. 7" is the perfect size for a tablet, apple should take note.
2. The keyboard is amazing and it will allow you to add words to the built in dictionary. Apple clearly dropped the ball on this.
3. The screen is great, nice and crisp. It's been a joy to read on.
4. The potential, I've grown sick of waiting on apple to add simple features. Android is a blessing. I'm looking forward to new roms and froyo in the near future.
Sent from my Nook Color using XDA App
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Watch the 7" comment, which I totally agree with, as you'll have 10" mavens swoop in claiming that 10" is better for video(yeah right), and another smaller subset claiming that 10" is better for reading some technical documents. I've never had a problem with video watching on 7" nor with tech doc reading on a 7".
YouTube: best experience that I've had with video playback on Android devices so far has been with the lowly Augen GT78 sporting a Telechips TCC8902 ARM11 CPU which apparently had an AWESOMELY superior hw video codec support to just about ANY other ARM SoC available, although Tegra 2 doesn't seem to be doing so badly, yet could apparently, use some further driver updates to better support it's video playback capabilities.
Beyond that, yep basic Android UI is pretty "rough" for Tablets, and is why I presume that many manufacturers attempt to slap on a custom UI of some sort although they haven't had much luck so far(I'm looking at you TapnCrap) beyond specialized book reader front ends, e.g. Nook Color, Pandigital Novel, and Cruz Reader.
All this said I still haven't gotten around to picking up a NC yet, as I'm still kind of waiting to see what pops up next year, but may break down next week and just buy one as the gTab(10") is a bit much for comfortable portability and use as a reader... plus the NC has a WAY better screen from what I could tell playing around with a demo unit at B&N the other week...

cutterjohn said:
Watch the 7" comment, which I totally agree with, as you'll have 10" mavens swoop in claiming that 10" is better for video(yeah right), and another smaller subset claiming that 10" is better for reading some technical documents. I've never had a problem with video watching on 7" nor with tech doc reading on a 7".
YouTube: best experience that I've had with video playback on Android devices so far has been with the lowly Augen GT78 sporting a Telechips TCC8902 ARM11 CPU which apparently had an AWESOMELY superior hw video codec support to just about ANY other ARM SoC available, although Tegra 2 doesn't seem to be doing so badly, yet could apparently, use some further driver updates to better support it's video playback capabilities.
Beyond that, yep basic Android UI is pretty "rough" for Tablets, and is why I presume that many manufacturers attempt to slap on a custom UI of some sort although they haven't had much luck so far(I'm looking at you TapnCrap) beyond specialized book reader front ends, e.g. Nook Color, Pandigital Novel, and Cruz Reader.
All this said I still haven't gotten around to picking up a NC yet, as I'm still kind of waiting to see what pops up next year, but may break down next week and just buy one as the gTab(10") is a bit much for comfortable portability and use as a reader... plus the NC has a WAY better screen from what I could tell playing around with a demo unit at B&N the other week...
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Other thing to note about ipad is the aspect ratio
I'm so used to seeing widescreen ratio on both tv and pc that when i was watching hulu on ipad, it was somewhat akward

I have to agree with many points of this discussion. I went from an ipad to a rooted NC and am very happy.
1. Love the size, Ive always felt the ipad was too big. I sure ipad 2 will be smaller.
2. I connect alot easier to public wifi, especially when there is a sign in screen. My ipad always had trouble with those.
3. Screen is nice, but sometimes a little too sensitive I think. Opens apps when scrolling through them for example.
4. Love using Google services, Google Talk, Gmail, and live wallpaper. And get latest Google Maps and navigation. Apple always tried to lock them out.
My wishes.
1. Froyo to enable beach live wallpaper. Coming soon, I hope...
2. Microphone. Can one be added on via 3.5mm jack? Would love to make sip calls, but no dice so far.
3. Static wifi, that doesnt sleep. Or at least the option to turn it on and off.

Benny1234 said:
3. Static wifi, that doesnt sleep. Or at least the option to turn it on and off.
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wvcachi said:
1. How do I keep wifi from turning off when the screen goes to sleep?
- download Spare Parts from the market and set wifi sleep policy to never.
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Hope that helps.

i agree with most observations comparing an iPad to NC.
I have both right now, and I definitely think when compared to iOS Android lacks polish and is behind in terms of apps.

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For the most part the apps are almost the same for what I do. Apple just really has a nice way of dummy proofing products with the exception of flash everything works right out the box.
Sent from my Nook Color

[Q] Nook Color vs. Viewsonic G Tablet

just looking for some input here. what does everyone think about the pros/cons of these two tablets? after everything's all said and done, which would you rather invest in?
The nook seems to have a much better screen and a more appealing form factor. it's also $130 cheaper.
the G tablet appears to have a mediocre screen but it already has the horsepower/expandability of tablets that will cost twice as much (ie. xoom). i know the xoom will shred this thing in benchmarks, but for all intents and purposes the g tablet can handle anything software-wise that's currently available with flying colors.
i'm assuming both will have a fully functioning port of honeycomb in the near future (whether official release or custom rom) so software-wise they will probably be pretty similar.
is the tegra 2 and added expandability of the g tablet worth the extra $ and putting up with the marginal display, or is the lower cost/better build-quality of the nook worth accepting the limited hardware? am i missing something in my comparison of the two?
would love to hear from the community on this debate.

How are you planning on using it?
I went with the Nook because I like the form factor, it has a great screen, and more than enough power for what I want it for (e-reader, browser, portable multi-media, simple games, etc). Lacking a mic port and decent sound are the only two real negatives, but headphones do sound quite good.
I don't yet consider tablets to be replacements for PC's or Laptops so far as doing any heavy lifting, but the NC can probably handle the majority of business and entertainment needs for most people (minus phone features, which *may* be partially remedied is Blutooth support is worled out by the awesome XDA people working on custom ROM builds...)

ColoradoPhoney said:
How are you planning on using it?
I went with the Nook because I like the form factor, it has a great screen, and more than enough power for what I want it for (e-reader, browser, portable multi-media, simple games, etc). Lacking a mic port and decent sound are the only two real negatives, but headphones do sound quite good.
I don't yet consider tablets to be replacements for PC's or Laptops so far as doing any heavy lifting, but the NC can probably handle the majority of business and entertainment needs for most people (minus phone features, which *may* be partially remedied is Blutooth support is worled out by the awesome XDA people working on custom ROM builds...)
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good question, and probably the main factor people will use to decide between the two.
for me, i originally liked the idea of the nook because i've wanted an ereader for awhile, and plan on using it to read magazines, books etc pretty often. but i also want to use it as a multimedia device- streaming video/movies etc. i like the idea of gaming on a device that is larger than my phone. i have lots of fun playing games on my droid x (my two faves are gun bros and dungeon defenders) and the potential for using a tablet device as a killer gaming console seems to be limitless. the G tablet seems to fit the multimedia/gaming niche better, but i think it will be inferior for e-reading because of the screen. i guess my question is: does the superior screen/e-reading capability of the nook (and lower price) outweigh the untapped hardware potential and video/gaming prowess of the G tablet?

I was shopping G-Tablet and Nook as well. In the end I wanted a smaller form factor that can be easily held for a period of time for reading. I'm not a big gamer so Nook is my choice.
I think you would miss Nook's screen if you pick the G-tablet! The IPS screen is just awesome.
Did you look at Tmobile G-Slate as well?

I've owned both... And honestly its hard to compare. Main reason is the size factor. That will ultimately be the deciding factor...
Reading on a 10 inch had its benefits, as well as drawbacks. Holding the Gtab for extended amounts of time is tedious. The quality of the screen (viewing angles) really does not affect ebook reading etc. Honestly unless its laying in your lap flat, you won't notice the loss of angle.
For gaming... There is no comparison. Tegra2 @1 ghz rocks even the most graphic intensive games.
So... I'd say the following in summary=
For heavy reading and light gaming, coupled with moderate productivity and light media... Go with the NC
For light reading, heavy gaming and moderate productivity & media... Choose the Gtab.
Its really a matter of personal preference... Depending on what your ideal usage looks like.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Bandage said:
I've owned both... And honestly its hard to compare. Main reason is the size factor. That will ultimately be the deciding factor...
Reading on a 10 inch had its benefits, as well as drawbacks. Holding the Gtab for extended amounts of time is tedious. The quality of the screen (viewing angles) really does not affect ebook reading etc. Honestly unless its laying in your lap flat, you won't notice the loss of angle.
For gaming... There is no comparison. Tegra2 @1 ghz rocks even the most graphic intensive games.
So... I'd say the following in summary=
For heavy reading and light gaming, coupled with moderate productivity and light media... Go with the NC
For light reading, heavy gaming and moderate productivity & media... Choose the Gtab.
Its really a matter of personal preference... Depending on what your ideal usage looks like.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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uggh... this sucks. i feel like i'm right in the middle of these two categories. maybe i should buy both and see which i like better...

Understandable... That's exactly what i did lol. Also have the Dell streak 7 heh.
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I'm coming off the G Tablet and still waiting for my Nook Color to come in, but I'll chime in with why I returned the Viewsonic.
Ultimately, it came down to cost and quality. There is a lot of hardware under the hood of the G Tablet, but for the $400 I paid, I regretted not just getting an iPad. It was really a build quality thing for me. I was willing to look past the horrendous viewing angles and the weird 3D effect in portrait mode, but I started getting some screen rippling, and the unit would kind of "creak" as if cheaply constructed. The rippling was so small that it didn't bother me, but it sure made me paranoid, because it showed up after just a week.
I will try to post after I've rooted my Nook and played with it a little while to give a comparison, but I'm pretty confident the screen is going to blow away the G Tablet. Probably build quality, too. I don't want it to come off as me hating on the G Tablet, because I really wanted to love it (it was a sweet cbr reader), but I couldn't risk having the thing crap out on me once the warranty ran out. For the money, if the NC dies after a year, I won't feel as duped out of my money and will still be able to replace it with whatever the new thing is.
I should also comment that I'll probably buy an iPad 2 later in the year so I have a big tablet for comics, movies and games and a smaller tablet for e-reading and light multimedia use. Because I do miss my G tablet for the multimedia uses.

cwininger said:
just looking for some input here. what does everyone think about the pros/cons of these two tablets? after everything's all said and done, which would you rather invest in?
The nook seems to have a much better screen and a more appealing form factor. it's also $130 cheaper.
the G tablet appears to have a mediocre screen but it already has the horsepower/expandability of tablets that will cost twice as much (ie. xoom). i know the xoom will shred this thing in benchmarks, but for all intents and purposes the g tablet can handle anything software-wise that's currently available with flying colors.
i'm assuming both will have a fully functioning port of honeycomb in the near future (whether official release or custom rom) so software-wise they will probably be pretty similar.
is the tegra 2 and added expandability of the g tablet worth the extra $ and putting up with the marginal display, or is the lower cost/better build-quality of the nook worth accepting the limited hardware? am i missing something in my comparison of the two?
would love to hear from the community on this debate.
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The Quadrant benchmark for the Xoom is 1826. With Honeycomb and 1.1GHz overclocked kernel, I just got 1728 running the same benchmark on the Nook Color, so i'm not sure I'd call that "shredded"?

Side by side the NC screen destroys the gtabs mediocre screen. Dell streak 7 has a crappy 800x480 resolution and also bad viewing angles.

I returned the g tablet because of the screen and weight. I could have looked past the weight or delt with it but the screen angles were so bad it was a chore to use. anything beyond black text on white was almost impossible to see unless directly in front of your eyes. I really wanted it to work too...
now that I picked up a nc and running honeycomb I'm glad I made this choice. I am also really liking the size and portability of the nc. for $250 I just dont see how you could go wrong
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ta2025 said:
The Quadrant benchmark for the Xoom is 1826. With Honeycomb and 1.1GHz overclocked kernel, I just got 1728 running the same benchmark on the Nook Color, so i'm not sure I'd call that "shredded"?
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quadrant isn't an appropriate benchmark to use when comparing these two devices. besides, when apps start coming out that take full advantage of the tegra 2 it won't even be a discussion. that's not even taking into consideration what the dev's around here will be able to get out of the xoom.

Mikroft said:
Side by side the NC screen destroys the gtabs mediocre screen.
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Agreed. Having owned one for a week, I'd say calling the screen mediocre is waaaaay too nice though. The NC is so much better.
While the Tegra2 destroys the NC's 530, it wasn't meant for that. I'd wait for the LG G-Slate pricing, etc. The XOOM is already a fail IMO due it's pricing, data plans and crippled wifi (until someone here at XDA remedies that). If either Tablet were to appear in a WiFi only capacity that'd be sweet too.

cwininger said:
uggh... this sucks. i feel like i'm right in the middle of these two categories. maybe i should buy both and see which i like better...
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For me reading in portrait mode on gtablet was horrible.Was too long and the horrible viewing angles made it impossible to get proper screen without weird viewing artifacts.....returned it and got the nook.
For flash though, the gtablet ran as well as my laptop

Bandage said:
I've owned both... And honestly its hard to compare. Main reason is the size factor. That will ultimately be the deciding factor...
Reading on a 10 inch had its benefits, as well as drawbacks. Holding the Gtab for extended amounts of time is tedious. The quality of the screen (viewing angles) really does not affect ebook reading etc. Honestly unless its laying in your lap flat, you won't notice the loss of angle.
For gaming... There is no comparison. Tegra2 @1 ghz rocks even the most graphic intensive games.
So... I'd say the following in summary=
For heavy reading and light gaming, coupled with moderate productivity and light media... Go with the NC
For light reading, heavy gaming and moderate productivity & media... Choose the Gtab.
Its really a matter of personal preference... Depending on what your ideal usage looks like.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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I tend to disagree with this. Hardware is hardware, but unless there is software and a medium for the user to take advantage of the hardware it is as good as a piece of poop in your hands.
Perhaps, with better software, the GTab is a great option, but the screen is still lacking, big time.
For $249 you can NOT do better than the Nook Color. And with the 1.1gHz OC, it flies! As far as a gaming it runs everything I throw at it currently. That being said I still game more on my iPhone and iPad. Not because of the hardware but because of the software selection.
When we start seeing games like "Infinity Blade" on Android ... then I will sell my Apple products, until then I keep both.

The screen and portability won me over
I currently own an ipad and nook and did own a gtab. The screen on the gtab was what killed it for me. It was blazing fast, but get a tiny bit off center and the colors go straight to hell, a little further off center and it becomes unusable. The ipad and nook have amazing screens. I prefer the nook though for its hackability and size. Both the ipad and gtab are a bit heavy and awkward to hold for any length of time. For the money, you really can't do better than the nook right now.

OP: Just curious what you ended up doing, as I'm in a similar situation.
I want an android tablet but I'm tired of waiting for the "really good" tablets to come out. I would like to get something in the mean time until my ideal tablet is released sometime in the future.
I feel like the G tab could last me longer because it has Tegra 2 and a 10 in. screen, but the screen isn't great and is missing gps. The NC has a great screen but older slower processor and the screen is smaller. I plan on using a tablet in a variety of ways. Probably about an equal amount of reading, browsing, gaming and video watching. Another reason the NC is tempting is because it's cheaper and I'm not sure spending more on the G Tablet is necessary if I'm just going to upgrade again in the near future.
Anybody have insight on which one has better battery life?

cwininger said:
just looking for some input here. what does everyone think about the pros/cons of these two tablets? after everything's all said and done, which would you rather invest in?
The nook seems to have a much better screen and a more appealing form factor. it's also $130 cheaper.
the G tablet appears to have a mediocre screen but it already has the horsepower/expandability of tablets that will cost twice as much (ie. xoom). i know the xoom will shred this thing in benchmarks, but for all intents and purposes the g tablet can handle anything software-wise that's currently available with flying colors.
i'm assuming both will have a fully functioning port of honeycomb in the near future (whether official release or custom rom) so software-wise they will probably be pretty similar.
is the tegra 2 and added expandability of the g tablet worth the extra $ and putting up with the marginal display, or is the lower cost/better build-quality of the nook worth accepting the limited hardware? am i missing something in my comparison of the two?
would love to hear from the community on this debate.
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I own both. If I were constrained to use only one, it would be the Gtablet. Here are the reasons:
1. Froyo is not stable on the NC. Some ROMs are okay but it's not completely stable.
2. The wifi is buggy. If you haven't encountered problems yet it's because you haven't been to a site with incompatible wifi routers. When I travel, I can't afford to have a device that won't allow me to connect. Do a search and you will see all the wifi problems. Here's one recently: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986133
3. NC is stock eclair while Gtablet is stock froyo. Makes a big difference when it comes from the manufacturer. I know there are smart XDA guys/gals hacking at making froyo work on the NC. I doubt BN will have an update to Froyo - there's no business reason for them to do it.
4. Gtablet has a microphone and camera plus bluetooth.
5. If honeycomb (and I mean if) comes to NC and Gtab, the Gtab will have it in performance.

Good points. What is the most popular rom on the Nook Color?

I think froyo may be the most popular mainly because its safe. I for one love honeycomb. Even with all its little quirks and stuff but the pros far outweigh the cons to me
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Dell Streak 7 v. Nook Tablet

Last week I picked up a Nook Color to possibly replace my DS7. The reason why is because the 7 screen is starting to wear on my eyes, plus I was really disappointed with the battery on a trans-Atlantic flight. While the screen on the NC was way better, the sound was awful plus the speed was unbearable compared to the DS. The Android Market issue with the NC was easily solved with rooting and ManualNooter.
Today I picked up a Nook Tablet. It looks like my DS might be going on The List. The NT is only a bit slower than the Dell. The speaker is still not as good as the DS but much louder than the NC so it's acceptable. I might miss a few of my apps from the AM but I found I really only used a few plus I'm sure there is going to be a lot of folks working on developing the NT. Battery life is much better on the NT. As far as stuff like the camera, I never used them so they won't be missed.
I'm going to continue to compare the two for awhile before I make final judgement but on initial use the NT is very impressive.

CheapGuy said:
Last week I picked up a Nook Color to possibly replace my DS7. The reason why is because the 7 screen is starting to wear on my eyes, plus I was really disappointed with the battery on a trans-Atlantic flight. While the screen on the NC was way better, the sound was awful plus the speed was unbearable compared to the DS. The Android Market issue with the NC was easily solved with rooting and ManualNooter.
Today I picked up a Nook Tablet. It looks like my DS might be going on The List. The NT is only a bit slower than the Dell. The speaker is still not as good as the DS but much louder than the NC so it's acceptable. I might miss a few of my apps from the AM but I found I really only used a few plus I'm sure there is going to be a lot of folks working on developing the NT. Battery life is much better on the NT. As far as stuff like the camera, I never used them so they won't be missed.
I'm going to continue to compare the two for awhile before I make final judgement but on initial use the NT is very impressive.
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Speaker stinks, no GPS, no Bluetooth, no Haptics, and only on-screen buttons for Home/Back etc which almost requires a special program on the stock ROM to have access to those buttons, or on CM7 requires a status bar to show at the bottom of the screen which sometimes crashes.
I use my NC to read on, but the DS7 is my tablet. Speed was also a large factor, good to hear the new Nook Tablet is faster, the old one was pretty laggy, even at 1.1ghz. And microphone being added is a small plus, can at least use voice input on the new one.

Now that I have had a few more days comparing the two, the Nook Tablet is starting to pull ahead. I really didn't mind the DS7 screen too much when there was nothing to compare it to, but going back and forth between the DS7 and the NT actually hurts my eyes. The second issue is the battery life is WAY better on the NT. I can barely get through one movie on the DS7, and it runs down half way just playing a card game for an hour. As far as the speaker, with headphones, they sound identical so I guess that while the external speaker is mono, it's stereo on the NT.
I will say that the the DS7 is the better of the two if you want a full blown tablet, with all the bells and whistles like GPS and a camera, but as an actual "tool" the NT is better for my purposes, especially since a work around has already been found to allow the sideloading of various (free) Android apps. Again, I admit I miss some of the things missing like haptic, the Honeycomb OS, and the side buttons, but the screen really makes up for those items at this point, and I'm betting someone is going to be able to port HC to the NT within a few months.
Having said all that, I'd still prefer an all-out Android tablet, at the price of the NT, but I know that's pretty much impossible at this point. I checked out the Samsung Galaxy 7 but it's still too much for my blood, and I don't want to get locked into a two-year plan to get the lower price. Hopefully Dell will come out with a DS7-plus at a reasonable price, but it's looking doubtful.

[Q] Nook HD+ vs Asus transformer TF300

I just bought a 32 GB Nook HD+, haven't opened it yet. I bought it for one main reason - read books - epub and pdf. I'll do about 30% - 40% web browsing as well.
I did some research and learned Nook HD+ has the best display. My questions are:
How much better is the Nook HD+ screen in comparison to the Asus TF 300's IPS 1280 x 800? Viewing angle and brightness, I like to read out door under shade.
I also heard that Nook HD+ wifi is weak, how bad is it?
I have a Asus TF 101, I'm satisfied with its wifi. Any body has experience with these two?
Thanks in advance.

Old thread I realize, maybe this analysis will help someone else though.
HD+ was better for me all around.
-I had 2 TF300s over the course of two years and they both became increasingly sluggish doing even simple tasks, and multiple reset/formats didn't solve any issues. HD+ is always lightning quick in comparison, even though benchmarks still put the TF300 as the faster unit
-screen is so, so much better on the HD+, it's not even really a comparison...it's like HD vs SD television
-battery life rocks on the HD+ and lasts easily twice as long as the TF300, I am not even sure standby uses any battery on the Nook
-wifi is fine for me, I really have had no issues with it
-for $150 there is not a better tablet that even comes close in terms of competition with this thing
My only complaints for the Nook so far have been:
-wish it were 1" bigger
-audio is not the best
-mini HDMI would be nice
-Flash is a PITA to install

Funny that you would compare the two...
tuffluck said:
Old thread I realize, maybe this analysis will help someone else though.
HD+ was better for me all around.
-I had 2 TF300s over the course of two years and they both became increasingly sluggish doing even simple tasks, and multiple reset/formats didn't solve any issues. HD+ is always lightning quick in comparison, even though benchmarks still put the TF300 as the faster unit
-screen is so, so much better on the HD+, it's not even really a comparison...it's like HD vs SD television
-battery life rocks on the HD+ and lasts easily twice as long as the TF300, I am not even sure standby uses any battery on the Nook
-wifi is fine for me, I really have had no issues with it
-for $150 there is not a better tablet that even comes close in terms of competition with this thing
My only complaints for the Nook so far have been:
-wish it were 1" bigger
-audio is not the best
-mini HDMI would be nice
-Flash is a PITA to install
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Up until about a month ago, I was going to buy the TF300. It wasn't until I read something about CM for the Nook HD+ and the lowered price that I actually seriously looked at the Nook. The Nook hardware specs were so good, and the price was really good, too, so I took the leap and bought a 32GB model. Brought it home and rooted it that afternoon.
I can tell you without a doubt I made a great decision. I love my Nook! :good:

I have also owned both, and I absolutely reccomend the Nook over the Transformer. Not only is the screen immensely sharper on the Nook, but it also has much better colors. The Transformer has serious issues with saturation in which its always washed out, regardless of it having IPS tech. My 2 cents...

KatyaR said:
Up until about a month ago, I was going to buy the TF300. It wasn't until I read something about CM for the Nook HD+ and the lowered price that I actually seriously looked at the Nook. The Nook hardware specs were so good, and the price was really good, too, so I took the leap and bought a 32GB model. Brought it home and rooted it that afternoon.
I can tell you without a doubt I made a great decision. I love my Nook! :good:
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Not sure what all root does over stock, but I was going to root just to get rid of the awful B&N home screen. But then I downloaded Nova and it took care of that for me. Now for all intents and purposes the Nook is just like any other Android tablet to me.

Upgrade to S2 from NV Shield K1?

I currently use an Nvidia Shield K1 for a carputer. Google Maps, music, Audible, Hangouts, etc. My only complaint is the aggressive memory management. Nvidia designed it to kill apps frequently in order to optimize gaming. So, you have to relaunch apps when task switching. It has nothing to do with amount of available memory.
Best Buy has the S2 9.7" (T813) for $280. Couple questions:
- Does it multitask well and quickly?
- Does the OTG + Charge work reliably?
- Does the screen work well in reverse landscape (buttons on the left)?
- Is the touch screen responsive?
- Is the GPS reliable?
I've RTFA with answers to some of the above questions, but I'd like to get a general idea of how this compares to a Shield K1. TIA.

I don't have the Shield, but I can answer most of those:
1) Yeah, it's snappy and switches tasks quickly.
2) Nope - this beast doesn't quick charge, so at best you can hold steady if the screen is on while it is charging. If you push the SoC, it will actually still drain the battery, just at a much reduced rate, on the charger.
3) Screen is excellent. I have used it in nearly every orientation just fine.
4) I haven't had any issues with the touch interface on mine. It works as expected.
5) I haven't used it extensively, but it seems to work as well as the GPS in my S7 Edge.

I traded my K1 in for the S2 and have never looked back. The shield is good for gaming and is an absolute bargain at the price it goes for new, but I find the tab s2 much more premium and the screen is much much better in every sense. I also prefer the size of the tab s2. I do a lot of gaming and watching media on my tablets and the S2 is great for both. Performance wise it keeps up with the k1 no problem at all, and I am one of few people who really likes touchwiz so I see that as a bonus as well! Lol
I've not really answered your questions but hopefully useful feedback none the less.

I came from the Nexus 9 and I've also never looked back.
I've a feeling the aggressive memory management is because they never put enough RAM in the shield in the first place, (just like the Nexus 9.) :crying:
I cant comment on gaming but as a retro gamer, the 4:3 screen ratio is great. Just bear in mind this tablet doesn't work with a wired Xbox 360 controller and OTG cable.
If you want to hook up to a TV, you will also need the older version of this tablet with the Exynos CPU as the newer SD652 doesn't support either MHL or Slimport.

The K1 is way heavier which makes the s2 feel nice in hand. I didn't think this would matter to me until I picked by k1 tablet up a month later and realized just how much different it feels in hand.
The k1 has far better speakers. The s2 onboard speakers are trash.
The k1 has a better screen ratio for media consumption (16:9)
the s2 has a better screen, AMOLED cannot be beat.
the s2 has much better battery life.
the s2 charges faster (although no quick charge 2.0 ).
the performance is pretty much equal between the two
My take-away is that the galaxy tab s2 is a better device.

I bought the Tab S2 9.7".
Everything about it is better except for one thing - OTG+charge requires a custom adapter. So, I have to charge the tablet separately. Otherwise, the screen is better, multitasking is better, multi-window is easier to use, and the touch screen is more responsive.
I'l hand the K1 down to the kids when they're older.

mageus said:
I bought the Tab S2 9.7".
Everything about it is better except for one thing - OTG+charge requires a custom adapter. So, I have to charge the tablet separately. Otherwise, the screen is better, multitasking is better, multi-window is easier to use, and the touch screen is more responsive.
I'l hand the K1 down to the kids when they're older.
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Well done Mageus, :highfive:
There is an app called, "All in one gestures," which you can use to swap around the order of the recents and back buttons if this annoys you coming from the K1.